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2021-01-27 12:41:53 PM  
Doesn't sound like Rush at all

The Weeknd - Wicked Games - Later... with Jools Holland - BBC Two
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Wait, he does..
 
2021-01-27 12:44:26 PM  
I don't know much about him, but "seven hits" is actually quite a lot for any artist.

Think of one-hit wonders.  Then performers with 3, 4 hits.  You're starting to narrow down the ENTIRE list to enough to fit on one page.

I don't know how things work nowadays... I see performers I don't know with, like, 5 charting singles at the same time which makes no sense unless you're Elvis or The Beatles.
 
2021-01-27 12:54:27 PM  

downstairs: I don't know much about him, but "seven hits" is actually quite a lot for any artist.

Think of one-hit wonders.  Then performers with 3, 4 hits.  You're starting to narrow down the ENTIRE list to enough to fit on one page.

I don't know how things work nowadays... I see performers I don't know with, like, 5 charting singles at the same time which makes no sense unless you're Elvis or The Beatles.


You get to count all songs covered by other artists or with them or you featured as "feat." as a separate, new, song for chart purposes.  Or you can count them as sales of the original song if you want to go for the "longest-charting" single historical record.  It's all marketing BS.
 
2021-01-27 1:00:54 PM  
Needs to team up with The The, and The Edge:
The The The The Weekend Edge.
 
2021-01-27 1:04:08 PM  
 
2021-01-27 1:09:35 PM  
I still don't know who this guy is. The NFL has been overcommitting to their decision for him to play the Super Bowl alone and one of his songs has gotten constant airplay during football games for two months. I don't recall the NFL playing prior halftime performers add-nauseum in the three months before.

Anyway, I just pulled up and listened to his hit songs and I can't say I recognized anything. Really quite boring music and further reinforces my complete lack of interest in what passes for popular music in this century.

This is going to be one of the very few times that I change the channel during the halftime show.
 
2021-01-27 1:11:07 PM  
Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.
 
2021-01-27 1:16:50 PM  

downstairs: I don't know how things work nowadays... I see performers I don't know with, like, 5 charting singles at the same time which makes no sense unless you're Elvis or The Beatles.


The concept of a "single" is basically over for chart purposes. Artists nowadays might have one particular song that they promote at a time, but since the singles chart is largely pushed by streaming. That's usually what's going on when, say, Drake has most of the slots in the top 10. It's because tons of people are listening to his album, and so the album tracks chart along with the actual "single." That used to never happen because album tracks weren't getting radio play, and they weren't released as physical singles. Those things are no longer barriers to the singles charts.
 
2021-01-27 1:21:03 PM  

Thudfark: Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.


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2021-01-27 1:24:54 PM  

madgonad: I still don't know who this guy is. The NFL has been overcommitting to their decision for him to play the Super Bowl alone and one of his songs has gotten constant airplay during football games for two months. I don't recall the NFL playing prior halftime performers add-nauseum in the three months before.

Anyway, I just pulled up and listened to his hit songs and I can't say I recognized anything. Really quite boring music and further reinforces my complete lack of interest in what passes for popular music in this century.

This is going to be one of the very few times that I change the channel during the halftime show.


His schtick is taking 80's synth hooks and repurposing them in modern pop songs.

He also takes himself way to seriously.
 
2021-01-27 1:25:45 PM  

shut_it_down: downstairs: I don't know how things work nowadays... I see performers I don't know with, like, 5 charting singles at the same time which makes no sense unless you're Elvis or The Beatles.

The concept of a "single" is basically over for chart purposes. Artists nowadays might have one particular song that they promote at a time, but since the singles chart is largely pushed by streaming. That's usually what's going on when, say, Drake has most of the slots in the top 10. It's because tons of people are listening to his album, and so the album tracks chart along with the actual "single." That used to never happen because album tracks weren't getting radio play, and they weren't released as physical singles. Those things are no longer barriers to the singles charts.


Which is kind of silly, I would have expected Billboard to be able to adapt.  Just because everyone is listening to ALL of Drake's album singles doesn't mean each one is as much of a hit.

Otherwise you've turned the singles chart into the album chart.  Which helps no one.

I'm sure there are Michael-Jackson-esque (that's a mumble of words) performers with 4-5+ songs that will live in infamy released in a year.  But that's Billboard's job to figure out.
 
2021-01-27 1:28:23 PM  

madgonad: I still don't know who this guy is. The NFL has been overcommitting to their decision for him to play the Super Bowl alone and one of his songs has gotten constant airplay during football games for two months. I don't recall the NFL playing prior halftime performers add-nauseum in the three months before.

Anyway, I just pulled up and listened to his hit songs and I can't say I recognized anything. Really quite boring music and further reinforces my complete lack of interest in what passes for popular music in this century.

This is going to be one of the very few times that I change the channel during the halftime show.


I think the reason he may not be a great Super Bowl halftime show is that he isn't really known for moving. Whether you know who he is or not, he has popular music. Several of his biggest songs are tailor made for a Michael Jackson/Justin Timberlake song and dance performance and he just doesn't do that.

His music is probably better than Bruno Mars, but I would bet the house on his halftime performance being way worse.
 
2021-01-27 1:29:16 PM  

madgonad: I still don't know who this guy is. The NFL has been overcommitting to their decision for him to play the Super Bowl alone and one of his songs has gotten constant airplay during football games for two months. I don't recall the NFL playing prior halftime performers add-nauseum in the three months before.

Anyway, I just pulled up and listened to his hit songs and I can't say I recognized anything. Really quite boring music and further reinforces my complete lack of interest in what passes for popular music in this century.

This is going to be one of the very few times that I change the channel during the halftime show.


The Super Bowl thing: I think the NFL is scrambling to make this the event it normally is.  Advertisers are pulling out left and right (Pepsi, Coke, Bud)... so the "commercials" part is going to be deadened and that (like it or not) is supposed to be a major part of the event.

I'm surprised they didn't go with a performer most of America (old and young) could get behind.
 
2021-01-27 1:30:38 PM  
Go awy.
 
2021-01-27 1:38:57 PM  

downstairs: shut_it_down: downstairs: I don't know how things work nowadays... I see performers I don't know with, like, 5 charting singles at the same time which makes no sense unless you're Elvis or The Beatles.

The concept of a "single" is basically over for chart purposes. Artists nowadays might have one particular song that they promote at a time, but since the singles chart is largely pushed by streaming. That's usually what's going on when, say, Drake has most of the slots in the top 10. It's because tons of people are listening to his album, and so the album tracks chart along with the actual "single." That used to never happen because album tracks weren't getting radio play, and they weren't released as physical singles. Those things are no longer barriers to the singles charts.

Which is kind of silly, I would have expected Billboard to be able to adapt.  Just because everyone is listening to ALL of Drake's album singles doesn't mean each one is as much of a hit.

Otherwise you've turned the singles chart into the album chart.  Which helps no one.

I'm sure there are Michael-Jackson-esque (that's a mumble of words) performers with 4-5+ songs that will live in infamy released in a year.  But that's Billboard's job to figure out.


I tend to agree, but if more people are listening to a Drake album track than a lead single by some other artist, then in a very real sense the random Drake song is a more popular song that week than other actual "singles." I'm sure this was also true in past eras, but the charts back then just didn't have any way to capture plays by people spinning the Thriller album over and over in their homes. My big complaint is when Billboard compares modern achievements to the old days when the charts worked differently. Drake having 5 songs in the top 10 is nothing like if the Beatles did the same thing, because in the old days charting a song meant actually releasing a single and getting radio play. 50 years ago, charting 5 songs meant that your songs were so popular that they remained in the top through successive single releases. Nowadays, it just means people are streaming your album.
 
2021-01-27 1:44:59 PM  

Raug the Dwarf: His schtick is taking 80's synth hooks and repurposing them in modern pop songs.


"his stick is taking Boston guitar hooks and repurposing them in punk pop songs"
 
2021-01-27 2:09:37 PM  

madgonad: Thudfark: Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.

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2021-01-27 2:12:59 PM  

downstairs: I'm surprised they didn't go with a performer most of America (old and young) could get behind.


You either go with someone everybody knows and loves (Michael Jackson / Rolling Stones) or somebody that puts on a hell of a show (Katy Perry / J-Lo + Shakira). They picked an R&B singer that just stands there and sings. I'm sure he is a great singer, but his music is generated by a computer and not a band. It is very low-energy (because it is R&B) and doesn't really fit with a high energy event.
 
2021-01-27 2:15:00 PM  
Bring back Up With People!!
 
2021-01-27 2:18:44 PM  

madgonad: his music is generated by a computer and not a band.


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2021-01-27 2:19:44 PM  

McGrits: madgonad: Thudfark: Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.

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I would agree. There are actually plenty of Greatest Hits albums out there, just not many in recent decades. Not too many bands/artists that have 10+ legitimate hits that they can put together into one album.
 
2021-01-27 2:22:03 PM  

LewDux: madgonad: his music is generated by a computer and not a band.

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Who he is playing with? Didn't he get his start as a guest voice for other artists? I listened to a dozen of his charting songs and it was all programmed music. Nothing that had the 'white boys with guitars' sound that your picture suggests.
 
2021-01-27 2:23:57 PM  

madgonad: LewDux: madgonad: his music is generated by a computer and not a band.

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Who he is playing with? Didn't he get his start as a guest voice for other artists? I listened to a dozen of his charting songs and it was all programmed music. Nothing that had the 'white boys with guitars' sound that your picture suggests.


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2021-01-27 2:27:07 PM  
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2021-01-27 2:37:02 PM  

madgonad: I still don't know who this guy is. The NFL has been overcommitting to their decision for him to play the Super Bowl alone and one of his songs has gotten constant airplay during football games for two months. I don't recall the NFL playing prior halftime performers add-nauseum in the three months before.

Anyway, I just pulled up and listened to his hit songs and I can't say I recognized anything. Really quite boring music and further reinforces my complete lack of interest in what passes for popular music in this century.

This is going to be one of the very few times that I change the channel during the halftime show.


If you haven't heard "Can't Feel My Face" or "Blinding Lights" or "The Hills" or "Earned It," it's almost as if you're trying not to listen to modern music over the last five years.

Ergo, I can summarize your post in two words: "I'm old." I suppose I could be more detailed and say "I'm out of touch."

I don't know music that well, but I know The Weeknd's stuff real well. He's one of the few "pop" acts that seem to have survived the general culling of mainstream acts in our current age.

Raug the Dwarf: His schtick is taking 80's synth hooks and repurposing them in modern pop songs.

He also takes himself way to seriously.


This is a more valid criticism.

baorao: His music is probably better than Bruno Mars, but I would bet the house on his halftime performance being way worse.


If he basically comes up with a way to repeat his MTV VMA's performance, which I'm sure the NFL has the fireworks to do, he'll be fine.

If you don't think this is a cool performance, than sorry, we're just wholly in disagreement on what a cool performance is.

The Weeknd Performs "Blinding Lights" | 2020 MTV VMAs
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downstairs: The Super Bowl thing: I think the NFL is scrambling to make this the event it normally is.  Advertisers are pulling out left and right (Pepsi, Coke, Bud)... so the "commercials" part is going to be deadened and that (like it or not) is supposed to be a major part of the event.

I'm surprised they didn't go with a performer most of America (old and young) could get behind.


CBS just said today their inventory is basically sold out. Pepsi is the title sponsor for the halftime show, so they're in. And The Weekend's music is new but with an old-school flavor. As long as he doesn't take off his shirt like Adam Levine (small risk) or go back to the bandages/plastic surgery schtick he's done in his recent stuff (slight risk, but I think he's smarter than that), it'll be fine.
 
2021-01-27 2:40:34 PM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_H​o​urs_(The_Weeknd_album)#Musicians
The Weeknd - vocals (all tracks), background vocalist (tracks 3-4, 9-11), keyboards, programming (tracks 1-11, 13-14), bass, guitar, drums (track 3-4, 9-11)
Max Martin - bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, programming (tracks 3-4, 9-11)
Oscar Holter - bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, programming (tracks 3-4, 9-11)
Illangelo - keyboards, programming (tracks 1-2, 5-8, 13)
Metro Boomin - keyboards, programming (track 6-8, 14)
DaHeala - keyboards, programming (tracks 1-2, 5, 13)
Frank Dukes - keyboards, programming (track 1)
Ricky Reed - keyboards, programming (track 2)
OPN - keyboards, programming (track 14)
Prince 85 - keyboards, programming (track 14)
Notinbed - keyboards, programming (track 14)
Nate Mercereau - keyboards, programming (track 2)
Mike McTaggart - guitar (track 6)
Patrick Greenaway - guitar (track 8)
Rickard Goransson - guitar (track 10)
Michael Engström - bass (track 10)
Wojtek Goral - alto saxophone (track 10)
Tomas Jonsson - tenor saxophone (track 10)
Mattias Bylund - horn arrangement, synthesizer (track 10)
Nils-Petter Ankarblom - horn arrangement, synthesizer (track 10)
Magnus Sjolander - percussion (track 10)
Miko Rezler - percussion (track 10)
Peter Noos Johansson - trombone (track 10)
Janne Bjerger - trumpet (track 10)
Magnus Johansson - trumpet (track 10)
 
2021-01-27 2:48:49 PM  

Pfighting Polish: madgonad: I still don't know who this guy is. The NFL has been overcommitting to their decision for him to play the Super Bowl alone and one of his songs has gotten constant airplay during football games for two months. I don't recall the NFL playing prior halftime performers add-nauseum in the three months before.

Anyway, I just pulled up and listened to his hit songs and I can't say I recognized anything. Really quite boring music and further reinforces my complete lack of interest in what passes for popular music in this century.

This is going to be one of the very few times that I change the channel during the halftime show.

If you haven't heard "Can't Feel My Face" or "Blinding Lights" or "The Hills" or "Earned It," it's almost as if you're trying not to listen to modern music over the last five years.

Ergo, I can summarize your post in two words: "I'm old." I suppose I could be more detailed and say "I'm out of touch."

I don't know music that well, but I know The Weeknd's stuff real well. He's one of the few "pop" acts that seem to have survived the general culling of mainstream acts in our current age.

Raug the Dwarf: His schtick is taking 80's synth hooks and repurposing them in modern pop songs.

He also takes himself way to seriously.

This is a more valid criticism.

baorao: His music is probably better than Bruno Mars, but I would bet the house on his halftime performance being way worse.

If he basically comes up with a way to repeat his MTV VMA's performance, which I'm sure the NFL has the fireworks to do, he'll be fine.

If you don't think this is a cool performance, than sorry, we're just wholly in disagreement on what a cool performance is.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/zFzwgFO2​bsg]

downstairs: The Super Bowl thing: I think the NFL is scrambling to make this the event it normally is.  Advertisers are pulling out left and right (Pepsi, Coke, Bud)... so the "commercials" part is going to be deadened and that (like it or not) is ...


You're whole insulting schtick comes off as you being a huge fan of the artist and you being butthurt that someone else doesn't agree with you. If that was your intention, great, you win. If it wasn't then do better next time.
 
2021-01-27 2:49:15 PM  
Feel free to point and laugh at my misuse of you're.
 
2021-01-27 3:18:11 PM  

madgonad: Thudfark: Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.

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I think you sort of missed the point I was trying to make with ABBA. They had so many hits on their debut album it could easily have been (re-)released as a Greatest Hits album.
 
2021-01-27 3:23:27 PM  

cew-smoke: You're whole insulting schtick comes off as you being a huge fan of the artist and you being butthurt that someone else doesn't agree with you. If that was your intention, great, you win.


Woo hoo, a win for me today!

I'm picky about my music and I like The Weeknd. Yes, big fan. Looking forward to this show.

I get tired of folks that don't even give someone a chance and flout "I haven't even heard of him," particularly when it's perhaps the most-played pop artist of the last few years. That just says you're not listening and uninformed, which is moreso a bad look for the person touting that.

It's part of the reason I pointed out someone who actually had heard his stuff and had some legit, valid complaints that I'll acknowledge as a fan.
 
2021-01-27 3:30:22 PM  
Seven hits is more than enough to justify a "Greatest Hits" album, especially if the b-sides are used to pad out a 14 track record.

And yes, I realize that the use of words like "album", "b-sides", and "record" tags me as an old f*cker. My point still stands.
 
2021-01-27 4:14:41 PM  
There's one song of The Weeknd I hear on the radio and I always think it's Rod Stewart with "Young Turks"
 
2021-01-27 4:26:51 PM  

Thudfark: I think you sort of missed the point I was trying to make with ABBA. They had so many hits on their debut album it could easily have been (re-)released as a Greatest Hits album.


Their debut album was Ring Ring.
 
2021-01-27 4:30:07 PM  

Thudfark: Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.


Pretty sure Boston did the same
 
2021-01-27 4:32:15 PM  

Bathtub Cynic: Thudfark: Yes subby, you package all your best material on one album after the fact and call it Greatest Hits or Best Of. The actual amount of greatest or best is open to interpretation. The only exception to this rule so far is ABBA. They released their debut and a greatest hits album on the same day. They just didn't realise it at the time.

Pretty sure Boston did the same


Pearl Jam maybe arguably as well?
 
2021-01-27 4:35:02 PM  
They could try to get hmmm...  I don't know, maybe GWAR?
 
2021-01-27 4:35:38 PM  
Combined with a little Kavinsky I like him...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSW2z​e​M3yLU
 
2021-01-27 4:50:17 PM  
SHould only be two hits, the rest are the week...

a search for funny best of albums wound up giving me artists with bad hair and\or funny names.

By far the winner...

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2021-01-27 5:39:53 PM  

LewDux: The Weeknd - vocals (all tracks), background vocalist (tracks 3-4, 9-11), keyboards, programming (tracks 1-11, 13-14), bass, guitar, drums (track 3-4, 9-11)
Max Martin - bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, programming (tracks 3-4, 9-11)
Oscar Holter - bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, programming (tracks 3-4, 9-11)


You know that Max and Oscar are two high-powered record producers. They aren't the band.

Also, check the writing credits. No song has fewer than four people people with writing credits. The Weeknd is just a singer that performs other people's music. Nothing wrong with that, but he is more Celine Deon than Lenny Kravitz.
 
2021-01-27 5:52:13 PM  

madgonad: Thudfark: I think you sort of missed the point I was trying to make with ABBA. They had so many hits on their debut album it could easily have been (re-)released as a Greatest Hits album.

Their debut album was Ring Ring.


My bad. I guess the one I'm thinking of was kinda sorta a best of, but not. Those were weird days for albums made in Europe, with distribution here and there and with different titles. I guess coke was pretty cheap back then.
 
2021-01-27 6:05:42 PM  

madgonad: You know that Max and Oscar are two high-powered record producers. They aren't the band.


You said:

madgonad: his music is generated by a computer and not a band.

Plenty of people playing real instruments in studio or on stage


madgonad: LewDux: The Weeknd - vocals (all tracks), background vocalist (tracks 3-4, 9-11), keyboards, programming (tracks 1-11, 13-14), bass, guitar, drums (track 3-4, 9-11)
Max Martin - bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, programming (tracks 3-4, 9-11)
Oscar Holter - bass, drums, guitar, keyboards, programming (tracks 3-4, 9-11)

You know that Max and Oscar are two high-powered record producers. They aren't the band.

Also, check the writing credits. No song has fewer than four people people with writing credits. The Weeknd is just a singer that performs other people's music. Nothing wrong with that, but he is more Celine Deon than Lenny Kravitz.


Check out songs, no song has fewer than four different instruments. Those parts don't fall from the sky, they have to be written by someone
 
2021-01-27 6:12:50 PM  
/There's interview somewhere with (I think) Phil Manzanera about making of (I think) Avolon, where he tells how band would work on track for few days then Bryan Ferry would come to studio, come up with lyrics and vocal melody and become sole songwriter of a song
 
2021-01-27 7:02:48 PM  
Is it called "An hour of forced vibrato"?
 
2021-01-27 8:37:48 PM  

Camus' Ghost: They could try to get hmmm...  I don't know, maybe GWAR?


Too busy searching for Oderus to bother with pitiful Human attempts at Deathball.
 
2021-01-28 6:58:57 AM  

downstairs: I don't know much about him, but "seven hits" is actually quite a lot for any artist.

Think of one-hit wonders.  Then performers with 3, 4 hits.  You're starting to narrow down the ENTIRE list to enough to fit on one page.

I don't know how things work nowadays... I see performers I don't know with, like, 5 charting singles at the same time which makes no sense unless you're Elvis or The Beatles.


Music is for kids. Always has been, always will be. When Elvis and the Beatles were charting over and over, it was kids driving it. Once you accept that it's okay not to know who the Weeknd is, or what's so special about Billy Ellish, your life becomes happier and less worrysome.
 
2021-01-28 10:40:38 AM  
In the old days, greatest hit records were often record company shenanigans.  If an artist switched record companies, you would see greatest hits records from the old company, and then later, one from the new company, and they would not have the same songs.  Also, many artist released greatest hit albums because they owed a record company so many albums, and that would count.
 
2021-01-28 2:46:43 PM  

LewDux: Check out songs, no song has fewer than four different instruments. Those parts don't fall from the sky, they have to be written by someone


Yes, by a record producer.

The Weeknd is no different than Katy Perry, Backstreet Boys, or Spice Girls. An engineered musical act based on a good voice. At least the three I mentioned can dance. He isn't even writing his own lyrics.
 
2021-01-28 5:09:36 PM  

madgonad: LewDux: Check out songs, no song has fewer than four different instruments. Those parts don't fall from the sky, they have to be written by someone

Yes, by a record producer.

The Weeknd is no different than Katy Perry, Backstreet Boys, or Spice Girls. An engineered musical act based on a good voice. At least the three I mentioned can dance. He isn't even writing his own lyrics.


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But how can we be sure that record producer actually wrote that and not just took credit for something other record producer, let's call him Record Producer Q, did? And what if there's Record Producer QQ that wrote that thing for Record Producer Q, so that record procuder could give something to sing The Weeknd to sing over? Makes you wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes, doesn't it?
 
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