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2021-01-26 10:05:26 PM  
Without access to the Appalachian Trail, how is Mark Sanford going to find some new Argentinian Tail?
 
2021-01-26 11:04:55 PM  
Still OK to tag team burn down buildings, riot, scream and march in mass crowds, not ok to solo hike outdoors.  Science.
 
2021-01-26 11:08:11 PM  
This makes no damn sense.  Hiking on trails is one of the traditional ways to get the hell away from people.
 
2021-01-26 11:10:50 PM  
Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?
 
2021-01-26 11:13:30 PM  
Probably a good idea.  Sigh...

The shelters are crowded AF on a normal year.  With so much interest now, it wouldn't be possible to camp there safely and yes...even when you have a tent, you still camp near the shelters.

Toilets and clean water are nice treats.  Hard to pass up.
 
2021-01-26 11:14:51 PM  

FarkQued: Still OK to tag team burn down buildings, riot, scream and march in mass crowds, not ok to solo hike outdoors.  Science.


OgreMagi: This makes no damn sense.  Hiking on trails is one of the traditional ways to get the hell away from people.


abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?


I could copy and paste the article, but if you can't be bothered to click, why should I think you'd bother to read?
 
2021-01-26 11:15:38 PM  
 Those hikers come through the 71 miles of trail in Great Smoky Mountains National Park and reach western North Carolina trail towns like Franklin and Hot Springs, in March and April, when they gather in large numbers to rest, mend gear and resupply.

They also stay at shelters in close quarters along the trail
. The shelters don't allow for the CDC's COVID-safety guidelines, which include maintaining social distance of at least 6 feet from those who don't live in the same household and washing hands often with soap and water
.

So it makes sense.  Hikers use common facilities along the AT and it's not like those things are getting cleaned regularly.

/No need for the dog-whistling upthread
 
2021-01-26 11:16:38 PM  
I know when I have aches, chills and a fever, I'm thinking, "Damn! It's camp go time!"
 
2021-01-26 11:17:33 PM  

abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?


Depends on the stretch of trail you're talking about.   There are a lot of logistical choke points where you bunch up.  Also, there are a LOT of non thru hikers who use resources they shouldn't in popular areas and it causes some rather heartbreaking overcrowding in spots.
 
2021-01-26 11:17:36 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Those hikers come through the 71 miles of trail in Great Smoky Mountains National Park and reach western North Carolina trail towns like Franklin and Hot Springs, in March and April, when they gather in large numbers to rest, mend gear and resupply.

They also stay at shelters in close quarters along the trail. The shelters don't allow for the CDC's COVID-safety guidelines, which include maintaining social distance of at least 6 feet from those who don't live in the same household and washing hands often with soap and water.

So it makes sense.  Hikers use common facilities along the AT and it's not like those things are getting cleaned regularly.

/No need for the dog-whistling upthread


It still makes no sense.  You close those public facilities and impose distancing at the gathering places.
 
2021-01-26 11:18:42 PM  

Enigmamf: FarkQued: Still OK to tag team burn down buildings, riot, scream and march in mass crowds, not ok to solo hike outdoors.  Science.

OgreMagi: This makes no damn sense.  Hiking on trails is one of the traditional ways to get the hell away from people.

abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?

I could copy and paste the article, but if you can't be bothered to click, why should I think you'd bother to read?


Well aren't you edgy.
 
2021-01-26 11:21:45 PM  
Sorry, folks. The serial killer pretending to be a park employee out front should have told ya.
 
2021-01-26 11:24:14 PM  
"They're closing down the trials" which amounts to there is no longer anybody there to tell you what to do.
 
2021-01-26 11:33:01 PM  

Prevailing Wind: abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?

Depends on the stretch of trail you're talking about.   There are a lot of logistical choke points where you bunch up.  Also, there are a LOT of non thru hikers who use resources they shouldn't in popular areas and it causes some rather heartbreaking overcrowding in spots.


What are these resources the non thru hikers use that they shouldn't? The shelters? Designated camping areas?
 
2021-01-26 11:56:30 PM  

OgreMagi: This makes no damn sense.  Hiking on trails is one of the traditional ways to get the hell away from people.


If you're hiking the full it even most of the trail, you'll be sleeping in lean-tos in close contact with strangers. Without group support from strangers, hiking the Appalachian is very difficult. So I'd say hikes are entirely fine, but don't expect support for week or month long hikes. I get it.
 
2021-01-27 12:07:55 AM  
Someone should make an Appalachian Trail computer rpg. That way you could role play as a good, neutral, or evil hiker. Every time you reach a town you can go there and sell your loot and buy needed items like health potions(aka food and drugs). The 'good' ending will be when you eventually rescue a lost group of child hikers and return them to their families. Then you walk off into the sunset because life on the trail has rendered you unfit to live in civilization. The bad ending has you slowly degenerate into a cannibal by the end of the game so those children suffer a different, less cheerful fate. Then you walk off into the sunset in search of more lost hikers.
 
2021-01-27 12:18:37 AM  

Birnone: Someone should make an Appalachian Trail computer rpg. That way you could role play as a good, neutral, or evil hiker. Every time you reach a town you can go there and sell your loot and buy needed items like health potions(aka food and drugs). The 'good' ending will be when you eventually rescue a lost group of child hikers and return them to their families. Then you walk off into the sunset because life on the trail has rendered you unfit to live in civilization. The bad ending has you slowly degenerate into a cannibal by the end of the game so those children suffer a different, less cheerful fate. Then you walk off into the sunset in search of more lost hikers.


Make that like the game "Last of Us" and it'll sell well.
 
2021-01-27 12:47:25 AM  
A few pics from the Central PA-AT last week. Yahoos can't just leave their spray paint at home. I usually go out alone so I was pretty surprised to see a rock hard boner. I had to wonder if the person who painted blm on the flag also tossed the empty twisted tea can. 
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2021-01-27 1:22:18 AM  

Patmaniac: A few pics from the Central PA-AT last week. Yahoos can't just leave their spray paint at home. I usually go out alone so I was pretty surprised to see a rock hard boner. I had to wonder if the person who painted blm on the flag also tossed the empty twisted tea can. [Fark user image 400x300][Fark user image 300x400]


I'd love to follow the dipshiats that do that kind of thing home and just trash their place when they go to work.  Paint a giant dick on their garage door, shiat in their mailbox, shave their dog.  They wouldn't learn a damn thing, but it would serve notice to the neighbors that they live next to an asshole.
 
2021-01-27 2:33:52 AM  
Last fall I was grateful one person had brought spray paint with them to block out the "N" word spray painted on a rock not 200 yds from the parking lot. The spot with the blm Flag is a power line locally known as shock rock, it has a sign threatening a $5000 fine for painting on the rocks. The flag was painted after the sign went up.  Paint your artistic, political, love or hate expression on your own house, leave the woods as you found them. Pics are looking north from the AT -
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Shock Rock, Susquehanna river in the distance.
 
2021-01-27 2:46:28 AM  
Social distancing? Check?
Healthy exercise, good for mental health also? Check.
Escape from bad effects of confinement? Check.
Environment which kills with UV? Check.
Dispersion of virus (via distance and wind) so that it is statistically unlikely to be able to cause infection? Check.
Safe from bureaucrats ignoring science? Bzzzzzzzt!
If you carry and use a tent, instead of hiker's shelters, and continue to use masks appropriately, this is safer than most other outdoor activities.
 
2021-01-27 3:14:32 AM  

FarkQued: Still OK to tag team burn down buildings, riot, scream and march in mass crowds, not ok to solo hike outdoors.  Science.


That is what I was going to say. I know the trail can get crowded in some places, but on the whole it is usually empty. You could go a day or so before you see one other person. Camping is a great way to social distance. At the National Parks the spaces are nicely separated. Just don't go near a holiday weekend.
 
2021-01-27 5:52:13 AM  

Birnone: Someone should make an Appalachian Trail computer rpg. That way you could role play as a good, neutral, or evil hiker. Every time you reach a town you can go there and sell your loot and buy needed items like health potions(aka food and drugs). The 'good' ending will be when you eventually rescue a lost group of child hikers and return them to their families. Then you walk off into the sunset because life on the trail has rendered you unfit to live in civilization. The bad ending has you slowly degenerate into a cannibal by the end of the game so those children suffer a different, less cheerful fate. Then you walk off into the sunset in search of more lost hikers.


Do I still get to die of dysentery?
 
2021-01-27 7:49:25 AM  

Ruthven13: Prevailing Wind: abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?

Depends on the stretch of trail you're talking about.   There are a lot of logistical choke points where you bunch up.  Also, there are a LOT of non thru hikers who use resources they shouldn't in popular areas and it causes some rather heartbreaking overcrowding in spots.

What are these resources the non thru hikers use that they shouldn't? The shelters? Designated camping areas?


Yes. There's nothing like setting up your tent in a storm while the shelter is filled to the brim with frat boys "just chillin for the weekend".
 
2021-01-27 8:08:49 AM  

FarkQued: Still OK to tag team burn down buildings, riot, scream and march in mass crowds, not ok to solo hike outdoors.  Science.


Lol what did antifa fark your wife?
 
2021-01-27 9:24:29 AM  
PFFFFFFT!  AT hikers will still hike. There were groups still going North through Shenandoah National Park last spring when everything including the park was closed.  Already lining up AT shuttles for April and May.

Many AT hikers will get lyme, give-up the hike, break something, or have a family emergency before they catch or pass covid to each other.

PATC and ATC just erring on safety.
 
2021-01-27 9:33:44 AM  

abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?


Terribly so! The AT is full of w/ mangy day trippers from Northern Virginia and Maryland.
An absolutely disgusting and destructive invasive species.
 
2021-01-27 9:51:36 AM  

Patmaniac: A few pics from the Central PA-AT last week. Yahoos can't just leave their spray paint at home. I usually go out alone so I was pretty surprised to see a rock hard boner. I had to wonder if the person who painted blm on the flag also tossed the empty twisted tea can. [Fark user image 400x300][Fark user image 300x400]


That sucks man. There's a lot of people who think they're adding to our hiking experience with that trash, and that is their intention. Got into it with a guy who liked to paint rocks with inspiring messages and leave them at trail heads. Even clearly explaining that as a volunteer, all those rocks he leaves have to be removed by park staff and volunteers. Dude didn't give a flying fark, cuz his painted rocks were so damn important to his well-being. Why people feel compelled to make your hike in nature about them is beyond my understanding. But I'll be G-darned if they don't leave lots of cairns to kick over. 

Also some of these spray painted rocks are rural high school traditions. See: driving to AT trail head @ Buena Vista, Virginia. Also Reddish knob. 

///So far my best find on the trail was a bag of weed and a heavy glass pipe. Kept the pipe, but left the bag of weed in the parking lot. Several months later, I found a lighter on top of a rock I thought would be a good place to get high.  The lighter had a little burn mark on the side from where the forgetful stoner used it to cover up his hot bowl.
 
2021-01-27 11:26:09 AM  

OgreMagi: This makes no damn sense.  Hiking on trails is one of the traditional ways to get the hell away from people.


The AT sees a lot of hikers.  While I haven't been anywhere near the AT my local experience is very few people (almost all Asian) wear masks.  If you're truly getting away from everyone (Recently I've been doing a lot of hiking in Death Valley on the less common trails--most of the time I don't see anyone at all) it's safe, but the popular trails are another matter.
 
2021-01-27 2:17:17 PM  
Today's e-mail brings this:

(This is a valid URL, but FARK is messing with it and then declaring it invalid.)

www.rei.com/blog/news/recreate-respons​ibly-an-activity-specific-guide#hiking

The Washington Trails Association notes that physical distancing may be hard to do on many popular trails. "If you can't maintain 6 feet or more from other hikers, pick another place to hike," the group says on its website. If a parking lot is more than half full, consider going somewhere else.

Most of the parking lots near here are basically full even on weekdays.  The only hikes I've been on within 30 miles of home have been evening/night hikes and only one within 50 miles and that was not an official trail although it was obvious that people went that way.
 
2021-01-27 3:47:41 PM  
Short piers are still available tho.
 
2021-01-27 4:44:20 PM  
Because there aren't ANY trails in the Appalachian Mountains besides that one, and nobody should be looking for any that might promote social distancing.
 
2021-01-27 7:34:29 PM  

Prevailing Wind: Ruthven13: Prevailing Wind: abhorrent1: Is the Appalachian Trail that crowded that it would be a problem?

Depends on the stretch of trail you're talking about.   There are a lot of logistical choke points where you bunch up.  Also, there are a LOT of non thru hikers who use resources they shouldn't in popular areas and it causes some rather heartbreaking overcrowding in spots.

What are these resources the non thru hikers use that they shouldn't? The shelters? Designated camping areas?

Yes. There's nothing like setting up your tent in a storm while the shelter is filled to the brim with frat boys "just chillin for the weekend".


That has never happened to me and I have hiked there slot in my youth. Best one was High Point to the Delaware water gap (NJ). I admit my experience there is just weekend overnighters in NJ...
 
2021-01-27 10:37:34 PM  

Loren: OgreMagi: This makes no damn sense.  Hiking on trails is one of the traditional ways to get the hell away from people.

The AT sees a lot of hikers.  While I haven't been anywhere near the AT my local experience is very few people (almost all Asian) wear masks.  If you're truly getting away from everyone (Recently I've been doing a lot of hiking in Death Valley on the less common trails--most of the time I don't see anyone at all) it's safe, but the popular trails are another matter.


This isn't even about day hikes on this trail or any other. The concern expressed is about the interactions associated with provisioning and sheltering multi-day hikers.
 
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