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(Ars Technica)   "Warp Speed" leader: You can't blame us for not having a vaccine distribution plan because no one told us that we should plan for distributing vaccines   (arstechnica.com) divider line
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2021-01-26 11:36:50 AM  
These people are idiots, and thanks to them our dead now number more than that of WWII, in a single year.

They should be chastised, prosecuted, not given rest until driven insane or dead.
 
2021-01-26 11:38:00 AM  
"what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.
 
2021-01-26 11:38:34 AM  
Let me farking swear!
 
2021-01-26 11:40:45 AM  
The second they put U.S. Army Logistics in charge I knew we were f*cked.
 
2021-01-26 11:42:37 AM  

arrogantbastich: Let me farking swear!


username checks out.
 
2021-01-26 11:43:15 AM  
How about I pay an extra $50 a year and you turn of filters for me so I don't have to look at kiddie fark anymore?
 
2021-01-26 11:45:01 AM  

question_dj: arrogantbastich: Let me farking swear!

username checks out.


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2021-01-26 11:45:46 AM  
"Our great generals will distribute the vaccines"

The countdown to Perna's personal D-Day began in May when he was put in charge of logistics for the federal vaccine program, dubbed Operation Warp Speed (OWS), an unlikely collaborative effort led by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Department of Defense to develop, manufacture and deliver COVID vaccines to Americans. The four-star Army general was tapped because of his 39 years of service as a logistics officer, most recently as commander of U.S. Army Materiel Command which oversees the branch's global supply chain.

https://time.com/5919956/covid-19-vac​c​ine-distribution-d-day/
 
2021-01-26 11:51:32 AM  
Wait.  You're telling me that program had a "leader?"
 
2021-01-26 12:13:33 PM  
The whole point of warp speed was to pre purchase millions of doses of several different vaccine candidates so manufacturers could ramp up production during trials and once it got USDA approval, they could be deployed immediately instead of waiting for production to ramp up and buy them later.

So they bought all this vaccine and then what? Shove it up their collective asses? Of course distribution was supposed to be part of the plan, how could it not?
 
2021-01-26 12:21:00 PM  
Did nobody ever bring this up at any point during all the meetings these assholes had?

"Hey, the vaccine is almost ready!!"
"Great, how will we distribute it?"
"The vaccine is almost ready!  Record time... we did it in 9 months, usually takes 9 years"
"But how will we distribute it?
"Didn't you hear me?  The vaccine is almost ready!"
 
2021-01-26 12:24:27 PM  
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2021-01-26 12:24:30 PM  
Wasn't there a whole big deal about mobilizing the military to distribute vaccines?

Like, from nearly a year ago?  April or May 2020?  Was all that just a smoke show?

Why am I talking like this?
 
2021-01-26 12:24:34 PM  

Ambivalence: The whole point of warp speed was to pre purchase millions of doses of several different vaccine candidates so manufacturers could ramp up production during trials and once it got USDA approval, they could be deployed immediately instead of waiting for production to ramp up and buy them later.

So they bought all this vaccine and then what? Shove it up their collective asses? Of course distribution was supposed to be part of the plan, how could it not?


It's very end of 20th century thinking.

"My job was to get the stuff. My job does not include distributing the stuff. I did my job."
 
2021-01-26 12:26:34 PM  
зáумь
 
2021-01-26 12:26:52 PM  
The best people.
 
2021-01-26 12:27:44 PM  
Actually distributing a vaccine would be bad optics after the trump admin told us repeatedly covid wasn't a big deal anyway and that we wanted everyone to get it so we could have herd immunity. Operation warp speed was just so trump could claim the vaccine was done before the election to boost his chances at winning.

Oh who am I kidding, the plan was never that complex anyway. Trump probably just refused to attend any meeting or briefings on distribution and said "let jared do it" then never signed off on any paperwork that would have allowed any preparation to be done because he is lazy and ignorant.
 
Bf+
2021-01-26 12:28:10 PM  
"Failure and proud of it" nicely sums up nearly all Trump supporters.
 
2021-01-26 12:28:53 PM  

skyotter: Was all that just a smoke show?


Tax returns, health plan, Mexico paying for the wall, Infrastructure Week.....in the Trump administration what didn't have some element of three-card monty to it?
 
2021-01-26 12:29:01 PM  
OldRod:

Yes, and the Tromp folks didn't want to own the criticism so they wanted the state's to be in charge. Warp Speed folks, I would assume, we're being told to abandon planning because the state's would do it.

There's hundreds of low level bureaucrats simmering in "I told you we should be making plans anyway, I told you and look where we are" juices.
 
2021-01-26 12:29:35 PM  

arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.


Birx was interviewed Sunday morning. The entire thing was her trying to pass the buck and dodging responsibility for anything. I was pissed at CBS for doing the interview and letting her try to rehab her image.
 
2021-01-26 12:29:37 PM  
You Had One Job
Youtube zHCzlCoDBCI
 
2021-01-26 12:31:08 PM  

arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.


Don't worry, they will get around to blaming the Biden Administration soon enough.

My 90 year old father in-law is already complaining about how the current administration has no idea what they are doing with the vaccine distribution. He already got his shots mind you.
 
2021-01-26 12:31:16 PM  
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Bf+
2021-01-26 12:32:00 PM  
If Fark not doing press briefing threads now that Biden is President?

https://www.c-span.org/video/?508349-1​/white-house-press-secretary-holds-bri​efing
 
2021-01-26 12:32:07 PM  
Did they want people to get sick and die? I expected them to have at least put in effort into getting vaccines to Republican-run states.
 
2021-01-26 12:32:23 PM  
""How can you have discovered two vaccines, developed them all the way to approval, manufacture, and distribute with 99.9 percent precision 14 million doses to 14,000 sites and it's labeled as 'There is no plan'?"

The vaccines were discovered by Pfizer and Moderna, not Operation Warp Speed.  If you can't get that part right, why should I expect more veracity from the rest of that statement.
 
2021-01-26 12:32:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.

Birx was interviewed Sunday morning. The entire thing was her trying to pass the buck and dodging responsibility for anything. I was pissed at CBS for doing the interview and letting her try to rehab her image.


I have no use for her... she admitted over the weekend that Trump** had someone else making graphs to replace the ones Birx made, so as to make things look better than they were.  And she never said anything about that until this week.  Fark her!
 
2021-01-26 12:33:46 PM  
They probably thought the vaccine was going to be like the brass serpent. They'd only need to produce one vial of vaccine and get people to look at it.
 
2021-01-26 12:34:21 PM  

Bf+: If Fark not doing press briefing threads now that Biden is President?

https://www.c-span.org/video/?508349-1​/white-house-press-secretary-holds-bri​efing


We're still on Trump time, so they aren't going to green it for another 45 minutes.

I kid. 2 minute warning just now,.
 
2021-01-26 12:35:16 PM  

Bf+: If Fark not doing press briefing threads now that Biden is President?

https://www.c-span.org/video/?508349-1​/white-house-press-secretary-holds-bri​efing


Those threads just aren't the same when we can't call the briefer out on her lies every 3 seconds.  Plus it was always entertaining to see what question triggered the "smoke bomb"

Now they're just boring press briefings... like they used to be back in the Before Times
 
2021-01-26 12:35:27 PM  

OldRod: NeoCortex42: arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.

Birx was interviewed Sunday morning. The entire thing was her trying to pass the buck and dodging responsibility for anything. I was pissed at CBS for doing the interview and letting her try to rehab her image.

I have no use for her... she admitted over the weekend that Trump** had someone else making graphs to replace the ones Birx made, so as to make things look better than they were.  And she never said anything about that until this week.  Fark her!


On the contrary. She didn't say nothing. She went on TV and actively praised Trump and his scientific understanding of the information.
 
2021-01-26 12:37:28 PM  

Bf+: "Failure and proud of it" nicely sums up nearly all Trump supporters.


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2021-01-26 12:38:58 PM  
"...and distribute with 99.9 percent precision"

Remember kids.  Accuracy and precision are different things.   You can be wrong 100% but still be repeatably  precise"

/nice grouping
 
2021-01-26 12:40:37 PM  

WithinReason: arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.

Don't worry, they will get around to blaming the Biden Administration soon enough.

My 90 year old father in-law is already complaining about how the current administration has no idea what they are doing with the vaccine distribution. He already got his shots mind you.


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Two days into Biden's presidency, and I already had alt-right trolls on my Twitter feed blathering about how every daily death is entirely Biden's fault. Its almost been a week, so I should be finding a "Biden is doing nothing about the millions of unemployed workers!" tweet any day now.
 
2021-01-26 12:42:18 PM  

WithinReason: arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.

Don't worry, they will get around to blaming the Biden Administration soon enough.

My 90 year old father in-law is already complaining about how the current administration has no idea what they are doing with the vaccine distribution. He already got his shots mind you.


If you think it would help, you can tell him that internet strangers think he's a schmuck.
 
2021-01-26 1:02:06 PM  
They distributed the vaccines to the states fairly well.  States always knew the plan but many failed to plan their side.
 
2021-01-26 1:02:09 PM  

Steampunk Gallagher: WithinReason: arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.

Don't worry, they will get around to blaming the Biden Administration soon enough.

My 90 year old father in-law is already complaining about how the current administration has no idea what they are doing with the vaccine distribution. He already got his shots mind you.

[Fark user image image 425x207]

Two days into Biden's presidency, and I already had alt-right trolls on my Twitter feed blathering about how every daily death is entirely Biden's fault. Its almost been a week, so I should be finding a "Biden is doing nothing about the millions of unemployed workers!" tweet any day now.


Wait until that Twitter shill learns how high the federal debt is now that Biden is in charge.

Fark called it. Again.
 
2021-01-26 1:02:23 PM  
These people should all be put in the stockades as a warning to others.
 
2021-01-26 1:04:19 PM  

Saiga410: They distributed the vaccines to the states fairly well.  States always knew the plan but many failed to plan their side.


That's a problem. The federal government should have ensured that states that weren't prepared had additional guidance or resources.
 
2021-01-26 1:05:22 PM  

OldRod: NeoCortex42: arrogantbastich: "what, should I have also prepared the cart while I was preparing the horse?"

Why are they even interviewing this cog and not someone from the administration who should have seen the glaring problem for months? Hold THAT farkers feet to the fire.

Birx was interviewed Sunday morning. The entire thing was her trying to pass the buck and dodging responsibility for anything. I was pissed at CBS for doing the interview and letting her try to rehab her image.

I have no use for her... she admitted over the weekend that Trump** had someone else making graphs to replace the ones Birx made, so as to make things look better than they were.  And she never said anything about that until this week.  Fark her!


Huh? She wasn't silent about it. Pence knew what she was up to. It's all documented.
 
2021-01-26 1:07:00 PM  
Get ready, over the next year we're going to be learning more and more how they were just smearing shiat on the walls and were not doing anything or were working to undermine everything in this country and how Biden has to fix it...and then how Biden hasn't fixed it in a week!
 
2021-01-26 1:09:41 PM  

Ambivalence: The whole point of warp speed was to pre purchase millions of doses of several different vaccine candidates so manufacturers could ramp up production during trials and once it got USDA approval, they could be deployed immediately instead of waiting for production to ramp up and buy them later.


I thought the whole point of Operation Warp Speed was a propaganda exercise so Trump could say to the nation, before election day, that we have a vaccine and that Trump has saved the day and saved America so everyone should vote for him.

It was never about producing a vaccine, much less distributing one, it was about getting the FDA to approve one so it could be touted for propaganda purposes.
 
2021-01-26 1:12:08 PM  
MAGA
 
2021-01-26 1:13:57 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait.  You're telling me that program had a "leader?"


Yes and that program did spectacularly, everything it was supposed to, fund a search for a vaccine.

They probably weren't told to come up with a plan because that was literally someone else's job.
 
2021-01-26 1:23:41 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait.  You're telling me that program had a "leader?"


They had like three leaders!
 
2021-01-26 1:28:55 PM  

Surrender your boo-tah: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait.  You're telling me that program had a "leader?"

Yes and that program did spectacularly, everything it was supposed to, fund a search for a vaccine.

They probably weren't told to come up with a plan because that was literally someone else's job.


No.  Distribution was under OWS too.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/0​8​/14/trump-administration-collaborates-​mckesson-covid-19-vaccine-distribution​.html

Official press release from administration.
 
2021-01-26 1:29:21 PM  

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/updated for Trump... same GOP mess though
 
2021-01-26 1:42:05 PM  

Bf+: "Failure and proud of it" nicely sums up nearly all Trump supporters.


"Warp-speed"....rolleyes.  

Anytime you see someone who insists on being addressed with honorifics, liberally peppers their speech with superlatives about themselves, the products they are hawking, the organization they control, etc you know you're dealing with a talentless hack or outright grifter.   It's like those condo developments with the boojee names..."Royal Balmoral Estates"...or some such thing.  If there was truth in advertising it would be called "Moldy Vinyl-Clad Particleboard Estates".
 
2021-01-26 1:43:23 PM  
"Between May [2020] and now, we've moved five vaccines into Phase III trials, two have been authorized, two are completing Phase III-and one of those could be approved imminently... By all standards, this is absolutely exceptional,"

Agreed. The Germans should take a freakin' bow.
 
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