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(CNN)   Your dog's ancestors migrated to the Americas about 15,000 years ago, probably looking for top quality steaks   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-01-26 3:00:50 PM  

Gyrfalcon: The horses were gone before the people got there. The horses were more likely extincted because of either environmental pressures, or encephalitis, which appeared in North America at about the same time.


They're still debating this one. The timing is close. 

They have dating that places early Americans in the plains dating 25,000 years BCE.

I studied under the guy responsible for the Burnham site. It's flimsy, but has held up to scrutiny so far.
 
2021-01-26 3:21:25 PM  

thehobbes: Gyrfalcon: The horses were gone before the people got there. The horses were more likely extincted because of either environmental pressures, or encephalitis, which appeared in North America at about the same time.

They're still debating this one. The timing is close. 

They have dating that places early Americans in the plains dating 25,000 years BCE.

I studied under the guy responsible for the Burnham site. It's flimsy, but has held up to scrutiny so far.


I only say it because there's also a big dieoff of horses in Colorado in association with a relative of the tsetse fly at about the same time.

I don't think it has to be an either/or. Horses were declining due to environmental pressures, people came in and started hunting them, horses declined more, pressures became more severe, and then no horses.

After all, we're watching environment/habitat loss extinct thousands of species now; it's no different just because the rapid environmental change was due to the end of the Ice Age, not air pollution.
 
2021-01-26 5:55:38 PM  
My dog derives from dirty colonizing dogs.  As do most of you farkers'.  Even the Chihuahua and the Xoloitzcuintle are mostly European in genetic origin.
 
2021-01-26 6:26:19 PM  

cowgirl toffee: My wolf/dog loved the pool hall.

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Beautiful pup. Some of mine work in owner-operator stores and old folks homes. 
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I am on 3rd male generation in my Siberian - North American Coyote - Grey Wolf mix.
Front is pops, middle his son and back is grandma. Unfortunately mom and grandpa is no longer with us.

Fun fact, the pure Siberian genome is only 150 (give or take) years on this continent. The breed is not related to other dog breeds and native species of canids originally. Clearly, mine is not quite that. I can say they are better for it, far more intelligent and capable of solving complex intellectual puzzles.

Now, this whole human curated sub-breeds of canids are sad reflection of how we see life. Some are better than others and haven't been genetically neutered, but some breeds border on humans being cruel crazy scientists.
 
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