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2021-01-26 4:55:01 PM  
22 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.


If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.
 
2021-01-26 5:01:15 PM  
12 votes:
Daily Fail = Will not open link

I'm having my first AstraZeneca vaccine injection on Friday (clinically extremely vulnerable) and cannot be happier about it.  Not worried about the second dose yet, just grateful for the first after 10 months of shielding paranoia Hell.  Stay safe Farkers
 
2021-01-26 5:46:11 PM  
11 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.

To honour the contracts in order of those who placed orders first? The UK ordered vaccines months before the EU.

I can't help but think that if this was reversed, if it was Boris saying he would ban exports of the vaccine from UK factories to the EU, because "we have to put UK citizens first" then the EU, and Fark, would be apoplectic and outraged.


Maybe become a big boy and manufacture the materials yourself. That's what sovereignty means. Britain alone.
 
2021-01-26 5:15:28 PM  
10 votes:
The people in the UK that will rail against this are the same people that have downplayed covid from day 1 and told the EU that they don't need them for anything.
 
2021-01-26 4:59:53 PM  
10 votes:
Since it's in the Daily Mail, I now doubt the existence of the U.K. and the Pfizer vaccine.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-26 7:22:50 PM  
9 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Wouldn't honouring orders in the order they were placed be appropriate? The UK placed its orders several months before the EU did.

If the UK had placed orders three months after the EU and we were now saying the EU should give up a chunk of its orders so that we could leapfrog the queue what do you think the EU would have said?


You know I love this, you're acting like THEY should act in good faith towards us after we essentially told them to get farked.

You should own this, this is only possible thanks to you and people just like you and it clearly demonstrates how powerless we are since there is literally nothing we can do about it now.
 
2021-01-26 12:52:43 PM  
9 votes:
AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-26 6:02:33 PM  
8 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.


Trump level dickishness that is only possible thanks to you. Cheers!
 
2021-01-26 5:23:56 PM  
7 votes:
The U.K. government literally maintains a pharmaceutical export ban list. Why on earth would we expect anyone else to do different?
 
2021-01-26 5:07:59 PM  
7 votes:
er Nope
The EU are pointing out AZ appear to be ratting on a contract they signed and there maybe consequences for that.
 
2021-01-26 5:04:06 PM  
7 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.


Even the Daily Fail does not claim that there is a ban. The European Commission is worried that Pfizer and the likes may have oversold their limited capacity, and they (the EC) have asked for transparency about actual deliveries.
 
2021-01-26 5:50:50 PM  
6 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Zenith: er Nope
The EU are pointing out AZ appear to be ratting on a contract they signed and there maybe consequences for that.

If there is a manufacturing problem, apparently by the Belgian vial supplier, then wouldn't it be reasonable to deliver in order of those who placed their orders? The UK ordered vaccines months before the EU got around to it. Boris got on with it. The EU dragged their feet and took months to place their orders.

That's why one week into this month the UK had vaccinated well over a million people while France had vaccinated 500 and Holland hadn't even started.

Again, if this was Boris suggesting he might ban exports to the EU the EU would be outraged.


Belgium isn't part of the UK. I don't know why this is hard to figure out.
 
2021-01-26 6:41:47 PM  
5 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Funny that some Farkers accuse the UK of being insular and cutting itself off from free trade etc but are now apparently cheering on the EU for suggesting they might ban exports that were placed perfectly legally just because they are butthurt about the UK doing a far better job with vaccines.

Why would anyone want to trade with the EU when they have shown they are happy to consider screwing you over when it suits them? The EU could be making itself an international pariah if it goes on breaking contracts that EU companies have signed.


STFU. They created a co-op to server their market and avoid future problems. You farking UK babies kicked and screamed to be let into the Union in the first place. Then did the same to get out. Bunch when whiney shiates you are. You must be a glutton for punishment you're consistently shown to be a complete tool, yet you come back again and again to be shown full of shiate
 
2021-01-26 5:44:13 PM  
5 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.


Would you expect the US to send supplies to Mexico when it needed them itself? Last I checked, the UK is not part of the EU.
 
2021-01-26 10:29:17 PM  
4 votes:
Of course, the reality is exactly the opposite - vaccines meant for the EU are being exported to third world countries contrary to the manufacturers' obligations.

But don't let the Daily Fail and submitter lie about it.
 
2021-01-26 6:59:59 PM  
4 votes:

Zenith: I'm assuming gobshiate has made his august presence known.


Yes, and he is making a valiant attack on the EU to cover up today's new that the UK has passed 100,000 COVID-19 deaths and now has the third worst total deaths per million of any sizeable country.

Of course he is actually trying to cover up something worse than that. England - the bit Boris runs - is currently on 1573 deaths per million but Scotland - the bit where the leaders hasn't spend a year prevaricating and disparaging science - is on 1063 deaths per million.

Yup, overall England has a death rate 48% worse than Scotland, which on its own would be #20 in the world. And it's not changing much: Boris's bit has 140 deaths per million per day (7-day average) while Haggisland has just 77.

No wonder Brexit Bob and the Daily Mail are trying to divert attention by picking a fight with the EU for something which might happen over vaccines. Boris's incompetence has cost the lives of tens of thousands of English men and women and there will, in due course, be a reckoning.
 
2021-01-26 6:33:55 PM  
4 votes:
The EU probably has a legit grip.
Pfizer is supplying a German/American vaccine that is made in the EU to the UK.
AstraZeneca is supplying an Anglo/Swedish vaccine that made in the EU to the EU.
AstraZeneca is also supplying a vaccine that is made in the UK to the UK.
AstraZeneca has just reneged on their contract to supply the EU by 60%.
The big question is AstraZeneca also reducing the UK's vaccine supply?
None of us really know, the UK is keeping its quantity of vaccine a state secret, and has since day one.

This leads me to believe that we've done something clever and underhand. We should just give the EU the phone number for Swedish customer help line. When the dust settles everyone can agree to blame Belgium.
 
2021-01-26 6:29:03 PM  
4 votes:
Britain treats the rest of Europe as subhuman trassh unworthy of anything except being raped by the English.  Then it gets mad when the reset of Europe does the same.  Poor babies.

Ireland, India, Kenya, the Gold Coast, and most recently Hing Kong, all stand by and watch, politely golf-clapping.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-27 1:54:50 AM  
3 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: stuffy: Remember Brits this is what you voted for.

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Well it's clearly working.

The fact that the EU are so butthurt over how well the UK is doing with vaccines that they are planning to ban shipments to us so they can catch up says it all.


Yet again you're debating this dishonestly - the rate at which we are vaccinating has nothing to do with this since the oxford vaccine was able to have been developed, manufactured and deployed if we had remained within the EU. The difference is that shipments couldn't have been blocked as they are now.

Stop trying to distract with an avalanche of other topics - this is all about the fact that they now get to dictate what and how trade across the border occurs and we have to simply bend over and take whatever decision they wish to impart on us.

Thanks to you.
 
2021-01-26 7:53:01 PM  
3 votes:
This isn't an issue affecting only the UK. Canada is also potentially in the lurch for contracts signed as well. I'm sure cooler heads will prevail, but the EU seems like they may be trying to distract from the slow rollout of the vaccine to their population.
 
2021-01-26 7:48:32 PM  
3 votes:
Remember Brits this is what you voted for.
 
2021-01-26 7:31:34 PM  
3 votes:

mrschwen: Scaley: mrschwen: talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.

The AZ vaccine was a joint development by the UK and the EU. It belongs just as much to the EU as it does the UK.

The EU and AstraZeneca worked together.
The UK and AstraZeneca worked together
I don't know of any collaboration between the EU and the UK over it though.

Well sorta
Just checked. Apparently it was joint UK and Astrazenica. So the EU had nothing to do with the development.


The EU paid up front to fund the building of facilities.
 
2021-01-26 7:06:32 PM  
3 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: If the UK had placed orders three months after the EU and we were now saying the EU should give up a chunk of its orders so that we could leapfrog the queue what do you think the EU would have said?


The timing of the orders is more-or-less irrelevant, which is why I presume you l keep banging on about it. What matters are the quantities and delivery dates in those orders. about which you are, I note, keeping very quiet indeed.
 
2021-01-26 5:42:55 PM  
3 votes:

talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.


To honour the contracts in order of those who placed orders first? The UK ordered vaccines months before the EU.

I can't help but think that if this was reversed, if it was Boris saying he would ban exports of the vaccine from UK factories to the EU, because "we have to put UK citizens first" then the EU, and Fark, would be apoplectic and outraged.
 
2021-01-26 5:34:05 PM  
3 votes:
This is NO REALLY THOSE CONTINENTALS ARE BAD AND WHY EVERYTHING IS HORRIBLE to distract from the increasing Brexit disaster.
 
2021-01-26 5:30:13 PM  
3 votes:
Asine subby?
Is it asine that when you divorce from your group, that they are not obligated to keep sharing with you as if you were still part of their group?

yeah we formed a co-op group to be helping each otehr as one big share a lot co-op group.

And then you left the group to go be doing it on your own, and you think it's asine when the now separate independent group you left, let's you know they don't have extra to share with those outside their group?
 
2021-01-26 5:24:05 PM  
3 votes:
I'm assuming gobshiate has made his august presence known.
 
2021-01-26 5:13:43 PM  
3 votes:

ZaphodTheSmall: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

Even the Daily Fail does not claim that there is a ban. The European Commission is worried that Pfizer and the likes may have oversold their limited capacity, and they (the EC) have asked for transparency about actual deliveries.


The monsters!
 
2021-01-27 12:56:04 PM  
2 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: orbister: Almost everything you write about Brexit or COVID.

Such as?

Because if you refuse to give a specific example then some might suspect you can't actually come up with anything to back up your claim. Like the way you seem adamant that the vaccine contract is behind the EUs actions, but can't actually link to it.


You have argued in bad faith on these matters for so long and so consistently, and you have been caught out in so many lies, half-truths, misrepresentations and evasions that there is simply no point in engaging with you.

I note, for example, your refusal in this thread to address the 50% higher per capita death rates and total deaths in England compared to Scotland in favour of some unsupported bollocks about vaccine contracts.
 
2021-01-27 11:49:08 AM  
2 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: orbister: That's on top of the deliberate misrepresentations and dishonesty, of course.

Such as?


Almost everything you write about Brexit or COVID.
 
2021-01-27 5:57:52 AM  
2 votes:

Xai: Yet again you're debating this dishonestly - the rate at which we are vaccinating has nothing to do with this since the oxford vaccine was able to have been developed, manufactured and deployed if we had remained within the EU. The difference is that shipments couldn't have been blocked as they are now.


He's also banging on about vaccination rates to distract attention from Boris's achievement of giving England a death rate 50% higher than Scotland and higher than all but two countries (Belgium and Slovenia) in the EU.

That's on top of the deliberate misrepresentations and dishonesty, of course.
 
2021-01-26 9:17:23 PM  
2 votes:
Brexit Bevits.
 
2021-01-26 7:03:46 PM  
2 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: And the UK has troops in places like Estonia and Poland helping defend Europe from Russia.


800 in Estonia, 150 in Poland. Wow.
 
2021-01-26 6:00:05 PM  
2 votes:

Carter Pewterschmidt: PvtStash: Asine subby?
Is it asine that when you divorce from your group, that they are not obligated to keep sharing with you as if you were still part of their group?

yeah we formed a co-op group to be helping each otehr as one big share a lot co-op group.

And then you left the group to go be doing it on your own, and you think it's asine when the now separate independent group you left, let's you know they don't have extra to share with those outside their group?

We placed our orders months before the EU. The EU dragged their feet and took months to decide. What is wrong with a company honouring sales contracts and delivering in order of orders being placed?


Peeps dying?
 
2021-01-26 5:57:43 PM  
2 votes:

PvtStash: Asine subby?
Is it asine that when you divorce from your group, that they are not obligated to keep sharing with you as if you were still part of their group?

yeah we formed a co-op group to be helping each otehr as one big share a lot co-op group.

And then you left the group to go be doing it on your own, and you think it's asine when the now separate independent group you left, let's you know they don't have extra to share with those outside their group?


We placed our orders months before the EU. The EU dragged their feet and took months to decide. What is wrong with a company honouring sales contracts and delivering in order of orders being placed?
 
2021-01-26 5:18:21 PM  
2 votes:
Wah wah wah. Make your own damn vaccine. You can use the shiatty Astra Zeneca vaccine and turn into even more of a plague island than you are now. Good bye.
 
2021-01-26 5:11:20 PM  
2 votes:

Only You Can See This: Daily Fail = Will not open link

I'm having my first AstraZeneca vaccine injection on Friday (clinically extremely vulnerable) and cannot be happier about it.  Not worried about the second dose yet, just grateful for the first after 10 months of shielding paranoia Hell.  Stay safe Farkers


Good luck!
 
2021-01-26 4:59:08 PM  
2 votes:

talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.



Wasn't Boris Johnson on the phone with Biden with a thumbs-up only yesterday?
 
2021-01-27 5:48:19 PM  
1 vote:
You tosser. The EU placed an initial order for 80 million doses and payed up front for a lot of research (not only to AZ). The contract is based on a best effort clause. AZ's best effort seems to be 30 million doses.
The EU has asked AZ nicely why there is such a big gap of 50 million doses. AZ cannot account for this gap. Which is odd, you would think they have that on paper somewhere and can easily proof they did their best, that this is all they could do and everybody is getting their fair share.
Oddly enough, it has been several days and AZ still hasn't been able to show why the EU is 50 million doses short.

So what needs to happen now is clarity because it is very weird they can't deliver half of what was promised, best effort or not. Personally I find this all very fishy on AZ's part, but I'll wait untill more facts come out. I prefer that over fuming over some tabloids publication and taking that as a fact, as you always seem to do.

And before you trigger on the wrong argument again: noone is saying the EU acted quickly or anything. As a EU member I think it's taking way too slow. But as usual with your arguments: it has nothing to do with the issue at hand here. Nor  is it when it was ordered. If the EU came after the UK and AZ couldn't do 80 million doses, they should have stated such at the time. They didn't.
 
2021-01-27 12:52:18 PM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: So you can't back your claim up with the contract details then?


You're the one making the claims. You back 'em up.
 
2021-01-27 11:48:00 AM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Can you link to the text of the contract that says the UK agreed a later delivery date?

Can you explain why in a pandemic killing people any country would ever agree to a delivery date way down the line?


The Pfizer vaccine can only be stored cryogenically for thirty days. Even Boris probably isn't stupid enough to order 80m doses for delivery in one load.

You are clearly manufacturing outrage to divert attention from England's appalling handling of the pandemic.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-27 1:57:22 AM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: //And if you think banning exports and refusing to honour contracts is fine, ask yourself what you would think if it was refusing to deliver orders by the USA or Canada just so that it could keep the vaccines for itself.


You bring up a good point. There are no threats to stop deliveries to the US, are they? Almost as though we have no leverage and are forced to accept whatever trade terms they force on us, isn't it?
 
2021-01-27 1:39:22 AM  
1 vote:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Carter Pewterschmidt: talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.

To honour the contracts in order of those who placed orders first? The UK ordered vaccines months before the EU.

I can't help but think that if this was reversed, if it was Boris saying he would ban exports of the vaccine from UK factories to the EU, because "we have to put UK citizens first" then the EU, and Fark, would be apoplectic and outraged.

Maybe become a big boy and manufacture the materials yourself. That's what sovereignty means. Britain alone.


I get that there's not a lot of sympathy for the UK right now given that they just voluntarily shot themselves in the foot, but it's still a dickish attitude toward health supplies.  Are we going to follow it in other circumstances?  Is the US going to block exports of our vaccine until we've vaccinated everyone here, and it's just too bad for anyone in a smaller or less developed country?  People are people, regardless of lines on a map.
 
2021-01-26 9:26:00 PM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: PvtStash: Asine subby?
Is it asine that when you divorce from your group, that they are not obligated to keep sharing with you as if you were still part of their group?

yeah we formed a co-op group to be helping each otehr as one big share a lot co-op group.

And then you left the group to go be doing it on your own, and you think it's asine when the now separate independent group you left, let's you know they don't have extra to share with those outside their group?

We placed our orders months before the EU. The EU dragged their feet and took months to decide. What is wrong with a company honouring sales contracts and delivering in order of orders being placed?


Politics!  When you mix politics and science (and in this case business), you get farked.  Might makes right, and governments control their own borders (ie, export laws).

If the EU steals those contracted items; then the UK gov should think of a way to pay them back in spades...

What goes around comes back around!
 
2021-01-26 7:29:28 PM  
1 vote:

Scaley: mrschwen: talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.

The AZ vaccine was a joint development by the UK and the EU. It belongs just as much to the EU as it does the UK.

The EU and AstraZeneca worked together.
The UK and AstraZeneca worked together
I don't know of any collaboration between the EU and the UK over it though.


Well sorta
Just checked. Apparently it was joint UK and Astrazenica. So the EU had nothing to do with the development.
 
2021-01-26 7:29:26 PM  
1 vote:

orbister: Zenith: I'm assuming gobshiate has made his august presence known.

Yes, and he is making a valiant attack on the EU to cover up today's new that the UK has passed 100,000 COVID-19 deaths and now has the third worst total deaths per million of any sizeable country.

Of course he is actually trying to cover up something worse than that. England - the bit Boris runs - is currently on 1573 deaths per million but Scotland - the bit where the leaders hasn't spend a year prevaricating and disparaging science - is on 1063 deaths per million.

Yup, overall England has a death rate 48% worse than Scotland, which on its own would be #20 in the world. And it's not changing much: Boris's bit has 140 deaths per million per day (7-day average) while Haggisland has just 77.

No wonder Brexit Bob and the Daily Mail are trying to divert attention by picking a fight with the EU for something which might happen over vaccines. Boris's incompetence has cost the lives of tens of thousands of English men and women and there will, in due course, be a reckoning.


Lots o differences in the human ecology between Scotland and English. For a start more people live in London than all of Scotland.
 
2021-01-26 7:11:43 PM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: Scaley: The EU probably has a legit grip.
Pfizer is supplying a German/American vaccine that is made in the EU to the UK.
AstraZeneca is supplying an Anglo/Swedish vaccine that made in the EU to the EU.
AstraZeneca is also supplying a vaccine that is made in the UK to the UK.
AstraZeneca has just reneged on their contract to supply the EU by 60%.
The big question is AstraZeneca also reducing the UK's vaccine supply?
None of us really know, the UK is keeping its quantity of vaccine a state secret, and has since day one.

This leads me to believe that we've done something clever and underhand. We should just give the EU the phone number for Swedish customer help line. When the dust settles everyone can agree to blame Belgium.

Wouldn't honouring orders in the order they were placed be appropriate? The UK placed its orders several months before the EU did.

If the UK had placed orders three months after the EU and we were now saying the EU should give up a chunk of its orders so that we could leapfrog the queue what do you think the EU would have said?


It's not a bakery where you take a number.
The orders will be complex legal contracts involving hundreds of millions of pounds
 
2021-01-26 7:01:07 PM  
1 vote:

Scaley: The EU probably has a legit grip.
Pfizer is supplying a German/American vaccine that is made in the EU to the UK.
AstraZeneca is supplying an Anglo/Swedish vaccine that made in the EU to the EU.
AstraZeneca is also supplying a vaccine that is made in the UK to the UK.
AstraZeneca has just reneged on their contract to supply the EU by 60%.
The big question is AstraZeneca also reducing the UK's vaccine supply?

None of us really know, the UK is keeping its quantity of vaccine a state secret, and has since day one.

This leads me to believe that we've done something clever and underhand. We should just give the EU the phone number for Swedish customer help line. When the dust settles everyone can agree to blame Belgium.


Wouldn't honouring orders in the order they were placed be appropriate? The UK placed its orders several months before the EU did.

If the UK had placed orders three months after the EU and we were now saying the EU should give up a chunk of its orders so that we could leapfrog the queue what do you think the EU would have said?
 
2021-01-26 6:17:04 PM  
1 vote:
Funny that some Farkers accuse the UK of being insular and cutting itself off from free trade etc but are now apparently cheering on the EU for suggesting they might ban exports that were placed perfectly legally just because they are butthurt about the UK doing a far better job with vaccines.

Why would anyone want to trade with the EU when they have shown they are happy to consider screwing you over when it suits them? The EU could be making itself an international pariah if it goes on breaking contracts that EU companies have signed.
 
2021-01-26 6:05:04 PM  
1 vote:

buravirgil: Peeps dying?


Funny the EU didn't seem to care much about its people when it took months to place orders and approve vaccines when the UK got on with it and acted far quicker.

If the EU cared about its people it should have acted as quickly as the UK did. Then they wouldn't be so far behind us.
 
2021-01-26 6:02:52 PM  
1 vote:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Belgium isn't part of the UK. I don't know why this is hard to figure out.


Indeed. It is in the EU.

So an EU company screws up and can't deliver, causing a shortage, the the EU then suggests banning contracted sales to the UK so they can leapfrog the queue to try to make up for the awful job they have done so far and because they are embarrassed the UK is doing a far better job?

Why should we suffer because of an EU supply issue?  Why should the EU, who placed their orders months after us, demand they get their deliveries first?

If this was reversed and it was Boris threatening this the EU and Farkers like you would be apoplectic.
 
2021-01-26 5:48:46 PM  
1 vote:

Only You Can See This: Daily Fail = Will not open link

I'm having my first AstraZeneca vaccine injection on Friday (clinically extremely vulnerable) and cannot be happier about it.  Not worried about the second dose yet, just grateful for the first after 10 months of shielding paranoia Hell.  Stay safe Farkers


Got the Moderna vaccine yesterday. Two-hour wait at the drive-thru site, but well worth it.
 
2021-01-26 5:46:37 PM  
1 vote:

Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.


See, there's your problem: you send glass *anything* to the U.K., and the chavs will get their hands on them. Next thing you know, they're crackin' 'em over the heads of other chavs before frantically trying to make shivs out of the remnants.

/DNRTFA
//The Daily Fail can fark right off
 
2021-01-26 5:22:24 PM  
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talkertopc: Carter Pewterschmidt: AZ have said their issue is a supplier in Belgium who makes the glass vials, so we'll have to see what comes out. But the EU banning exports, to people who placed orders early, is Trump level dickishness.

If there is not enough vaccine for their population then I don't see what is dickish about not sending them out to other countries.


It's because medical help sure as f*ck shouldn't be politicized, or treat anyone as if they're better than someone else. For a lot of people, getting the vaccine will save their life.
 
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