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2021-01-25 10:43:18 PM  
Another egregious injustice by Florida's racist, backwoods legal system.
FTFA: "The town is also known for its courthouse, which has a controversial mural depicting the history of Baker County, including the terrorist history of the Ku Klux Klan."
Seriously WTF??!!
 
2021-01-26 2:40:31 AM  
Meanwhile, Fraser pleaded no contest and begged the court for leniency. Standing before the parents of a dead child, defense attorney James Sawyer literally argued that it was Fraser who had to serve a "life sentence" because he was "traumatized."

This traumatizes ME.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-26 4:21:28 AM  
So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.
 
2021-01-26 6:58:38 AM  

Cafe Threads: Meanwhile, Fraser pleaded no contest and begged the court for leniency. Standing before the parents of a dead child, defense attorney James Sawyer literally argued that it was Fraser who had to serve a "life sentence" because he was "traumatized."

This traumatizes ME.


And the parents didnt ram his nose into his brain on the spot?
 
2021-01-26 7:01:04 AM  

Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.


That's a natural and intentional consequence of the "stand your ground" nonsense.
 
2021-01-26 7:04:35 AM  
"defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.
 
2021-01-26 7:06:16 AM  

Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.


The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.
 
2021-01-26 7:15:15 AM  

phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.


"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.
 
2021-01-26 7:15:52 AM  

Tabletop: "defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.


Correct.
 
2021-01-26 7:18:52 AM  

Fivekiller: Another egregious injustice by Florida's racist, backwoods legal system.
FTFA: "The town is also known for its courthouse, which has a controversial mural depicting the history of Baker County, including the terrorist history of the Ku Klux Klan."
Seriously WTF??!!


It's a backwater of a backwater. Most of the economy revolves around the Department of Corrections and meth. They'd vote a Confederate flag for President if they could.
 
2021-01-26 7:19:15 AM  

phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.


Read all of it before getting preachy.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-26 7:19:57 AM  

phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.


He was shot in the head 3 times at close range and while this report says 'the face' - other reports also say 'the back of the head' - https://www.vibe.com/2018/02/what-h​app​ened-to-dj-broadus

In the interest of accuracy, we'll say that he was shot 3 times in the head. 

I think my point stands, I can't imagine a scenario where he would still be coming at him after 2 shots to the head at close range, meaning he put at least one bullet into his head when he was already on the ground. If that doesn't show you this was murder then I don't know what will.

Bottom line here is that it is up to the state to prove there was no 'attack', meaning as long as you know for certain they are dead (like by shooting them in the head after they fall just to be sure) then there is no possible way for the state to prove there was no attack, ultimately making the killing legal.

Heck if he hadn't destroyed evidence he would be a free man right now and that's a fact.
 
2021-01-26 7:20:27 AM  

Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.


The article states - well in the beginning - that he was shot in the face. What his father said as a victim's statement is not fact. It is a statement.
 
2021-01-26 7:21:16 AM  

Xai: He was shot in the head 3 times at close range and while this report says 'the face' - other reports also say 'the back of the head' - https://www.vibe.com/2018/02/what-happ​ened-to-dj-broadus


Thank you. The linked article would be a bit incomplete, then. I retract my remarks.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2021-01-26 7:23:07 AM  

phenn: Xai: He was shot in the head 3 times at close range and while this report says 'the face' - other reports also say 'the back of the head' - https://www.vibe.com/2018/02/what-happ​ened-to-dj-broadus

Thank you. The linked article would be a bit incomplete, then. I retract my remarks.


I think the interesting thing is it's entirely possible for both to be true. Shot in the face then 2 more in the back of the head to be sure.
 
2021-01-26 7:24:51 AM  

phenn: Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.

The article states - well in the beginning - that he was shot in the face. What his father said as a victim's statement is not fact. It is a statement.


I wasn't aware people are allowed to misrepresent facts before the court when they make their statements.
 
2021-01-26 7:26:54 AM  

phenn: Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.

The article states - well in the beginning - that he was shot in the face. What his father said as a victim's statement is not fact. It is a statement.


What makes you take what the article states as fact, but what the father states as fiction. ?

What's that about?
 
2021-01-26 7:31:20 AM  

truthandjustice: phenn: Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.

The article states - well in the beginning - that he was shot in the face. What his father said as a victim's statement is not fact. It is a statement.

What makes you take what the article states as fact, but what the father states as fiction. ?

What's that about?


In general, when looking for the true circumstances of a homicide, I would put more weight behind what the media reported than on the words of a grieving parent.
 
2021-01-26 7:32:36 AM  
Revoke statehood from the floriduh and put them under federal control.  Have the military set up on the floriduh border and make sure the floridunces stay in floriduh.  If after 100 years the floriduh gets its act together return citizenship and statehood to the quarantine zone of floriduh.  If they don't, nuke them straight to hell.  And if in 100 years we have stuff like antimater bombs, use that.  If we have nano machines that dismantle human flesh at the molecular level, use that.  Whatever it takes for the government to cleanse the earth of the floriduh.

Problem solved.
 
2021-01-26 7:33:18 AM  
Even worse, the only reason he even got the year was for destroying evidence and thus creating more paperwork for his fellow cops. He would've gotten off entirely if he had left the cell phone at the scene.
 
2021-01-26 7:37:29 AM  

Tabletop: "defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.


Yes, but usually the law isn't written in a way to make it nearly impossible to prove your guilt.  In this case, Florida "stand your ground" law is written so vague and general that it really is a free pass to kill whoever you want in the state.  There's literally nothing a prosecution can do to prove you didn't fear for your life, regardless of what physically occurred.
 
2021-01-26 7:38:17 AM  

Tabletop: "defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.


Self defense and stand your ground are related but not the same.  In a self defense situation, your guilt in the act has already been established, i.e. that you killed or harmed someone is proven or admitted to.   however, you are defending the action as being justified under your state's self defense statutes.  You, as the defendant, therefore, must establish the defense of self defense.

Stand your ground appears to shift the burden on the prosecution.

Self defense still exists in Florida for situations where stand your ground cannot be claimed  (like you jumping in to stop a rape and you kill the assailant)

Full disclosure: i am not a criminal law attorney, nor am I licensed to practice law in Florida -  and no lawyer is licensed to practice law on the internet.
 
2021-01-26 7:39:01 AM  

Fivekiller: Another egregious injustice by Florida's racist, backwoods legal system.
FTFA: "The town is also known for its courthouse, which has a controversial mural depicting the history of Baker County, including the terrorist history of the Ku Klux Klan."
Seriously WTF??!!


They used to have Klan marches as recently as the 90s in Macclenny. It's a known thing: this understood, that "North Florida" is actually South Georgia in every way possible.

And not even in any of the alternate articles will they come out and say that this is de facto Macclenny.
 
2021-01-26 7:41:32 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Revoke statehood from the floriduh and put them under federal control.  Have the military set up on the floriduh border and make sure the floridunces stay in floriduh.  If after 100 years the floriduh gets its act together return citizenship and statehood to the quarantine zone of floriduh.  If they don't, nuke them straight to hell.  And if in 100 years we have stuff like antimater bombs, use that.  If we have nano machines that dismantle human flesh at the molecular level, use that.  Whatever it takes for the government to cleanse the earth of the floriduh.

Problem solved.


You mis-spelled Texass.

/they put too much Floride in the water and it is destroying their brains, on both accounts.
 
2021-01-26 7:55:25 AM  

Tabletop: "defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.


looks like the legal landscape has shifted around quite a bit since i passed the bar.  another good object lesson that "my law" is not necessarily "your law."  While the level of burden appears to be varied from state to state, more states have adopted a presumed reasonableness standard that basically puts all of the burden on the procecutor....  https://www.ncsl.org/​research/civil-an​d-criminal-justice/self-defense-and-st​and-your-ground.aspx
 
2021-01-26 7:59:30 AM  

Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.


And a little further down. A practical joke where you execute someone by shooting them in the head 4 times is not a "practical joke."

The father adds a bullet every time he tells the story.  I think we might need a more accurate source here. Like maybe a coroner's report.
 
2021-01-26 8:18:54 AM  
So basically Florida law allows you to shoot someone on your property as long as "you're scared" and you can do this without having to prove you were being threatened or were in any danger?

You people are fu*king insane.
 
2021-01-26 8:22:46 AM  
Of course the murdering a**hole would be the grandson of the purported former Grand Douchebag of the local Klan chapter. Murderer is also the son of "retired" law enforcement.
 
2021-01-26 8:29:30 AM  
Ah, I managed to find proof of Fraser's innocence. From another article.


Gardner Fraser is the son of a former Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Deputy, who was fired for shooting an unarmed Black man, and then hired by the Baker County Sheriff's Office, where he eventually retired. Gardner Fraser is also the grandson of Edwin Fraser, who the MacClenny hospital is named after. Edwin Fraser served in the Florida State Senate and the Florida House of Representatives for several years between 1937 and 1963.


Son of a cop and grandson of a Senator.  He could have done it again in the courtroom while reenacting what had happened and he would be charged with disturbing the peace and maybe contempt of court.
 
2021-01-26 8:30:21 AM  

Xai: I think my point stands, I can't imagine a scenario where he would still be coming at him after 2 shots to the head at close range, meaning he put at least one bullet into his head when he was already on the ground. If that doesn't show you this was murder then I don't know what will.


From another site:

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2021-01-26 8:30:35 AM  
Seems like a consistent wave of extrajudicial action might make Florida rethink this law.
 
2021-01-26 8:31:42 AM  

phenn: The article states - well in the beginning - that he was shot in the face. What his father said as a victim's statement is not fact. It is a statement.

 
2021-01-26 8:38:44 AM  

Tyrosine: So basically Florida law allows you to shoot someone on your property as long as "you're scared" and you can do this without having to prove you were being threatened or were in any danger?

You people are fu*king insane.


Correction, in Florida, the Ground in "stand your ground" is now interpreted to literally mean "anywhere you are standing".

It does not have to be on your property.

Per the linked explanation in the article:
"Stand your ground" makes it very difficult to dispute even the most outrageous claims of self-defense. Drafted by a consortium of conservative lawmakers and gun lobbyists, Florida's statute became the first of its kind in 2005, stipulating that a law-abiding person has no duty to retreat from a perceived threat wherever they may legally be. As Slate's Dahlia Lithwick explained, "stand your ground" laws stretch the traditional Castle Doctrine beyond the boundaries of the home, allowing you to "bring your castle wherever you go."
 
2021-01-26 8:42:34 AM  
Old school Southern drama. Even the hardened white folks can't quite condone it (hence the "dollar fine and hour in jail" sentence), but the deceased was still who he was.

I wonder if the deceased was looking to talk.
 
2021-01-26 8:46:11 AM  

fuzzybacchus: Tabletop: "defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.

looks like the legal landscape has shifted around quite a bit since i passed the bar.  another good object lesson that "my law" is not necessarily "your law."  While the level of burden appears to be varied from state to state, more states have adopted a presumed reasonableness standard that basically puts all of the burden on the procecutor....  https://www.ncsl.org/r​esearch/civil-and-criminal-justice/sel​f-defense-and-stand-your-ground.aspx


Farkers are known for their extreme left wing liberal viewpoints not their intelligence or critical thinking skills.
 
2021-01-26 8:50:07 AM  

Fivekiller: Another egregious injustice by Florida's racist, backwoods legal system.
FTFA: "The town is also known for its courthouse, which has a controversial mural depicting the history of Baker County, including the terrorist history of the Ku Klux Klan."
Seriously WTF??!!


If you look closely at the boundaries of the county, you'll notice it's basically South Georgia. Florida has plenty of Klan history all throughout, but near the panhandle they seem to be far more *proud* of it.

/The further north you go in Florida, the more "South" you get.
 
2021-01-26 9:14:31 AM  
...with liberty and justice for... some.
 
2021-01-26 9:19:56 AM  

Tyrosine: So basically Florida law allows you to shoot someone on your property as long as "you're scared" and you can do this without having to prove you were being threatened or were in any danger?

You people are fu*king insane.


The Tampa Bay Times collected data on a few hundred Stand Your Ground cases several years ago and the results were completely nuts.
 
2021-01-26 9:28:40 AM  
smunns: Farkers are known for their extreme left wing liberal viewpoints not their intelligence or critical thinking skills.

Known by whom?
 
2021-01-26 9:51:41 AM  

Tabletop: truthandjustice: phenn: Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.

The article states - well in the beginning - that he was shot in the face. What his father said as a victim's statement is not fact. It is a statement.

What makes you take what the article states as fact, but what the father states as fiction. ?

What's that about?

In general, when looking for the true circumstances of a homicide, I would put more weight behind what the media reported than on the words of a grieving parent.


It's disturbing that you feel this way.
Are you over the age of 60 by chance?

Anyway the same reporter has reported both that he was shot in the face, and that he was shot in the back of the head.
And as someone posted above, both are correct. He was shot then rolled over and shot again.
 
2021-01-26 9:53:02 AM  
I'm still trying to figure out why the prosecution couldn't obtain any of the erased texts from Fraser's phone. Is there some side-effect of Stand-Your-Ground where it prevents the state from gaining full access to your communications due to potential self-incrimination? If they have to prove you weren't attacked, can that prevent them from getting a warrant?
 
2021-01-26 9:58:55 AM  

Noah_Tall: Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.

And a little further down. A practical joke where you execute someone by shooting them in the head 4 times is not a "practical joke."

The father adds a bullet every time he tells the story.  I think we might need a more accurate source here. Like maybe a coroner's report.


There is nothing contradictory about what the father said.
And he didn't "add" anything.

A grieving father would know more about what happened to his son than you or any "The Root" reporter would.

He was shot in the face (part of the HEAD) and he was shot in the back of the head after being rolled over.

Murder.
 
2021-01-26 10:01:23 AM  

Bslim: phenn: Xai: So Florida has literally legalised murder.

He shot him in the back of the head, destroyed evidence and still won't serve a single minute in jail for his killing. He's only serving time at all for destroying evidence.

The article states he was shot in the face.

Don't do this.

"In order for the defendant to hide his feminine, bisexual nature, he executed my son and my grandson's father," Dominic Broadus Sr., D.J.'s father, told the court on Monday. "In an effort to try and keep his secret, he fatally shot my son in the back of the head twice and tried to destroy any evidence ..."

There you go.


The victim was obviously two-faced, and thus the ancient god Janus.  And we can't have a bunch of ancient gods running amok on Earth.  So the guy shot him to save the planet.

QED.
 
2021-01-26 10:04:34 AM  
"Your honor, we cannot lose sight of the real victim here.  My client was completely traumatized by having to shoot his secret gay lover in the face.  To send him to jail would simply compound this tragedy and serve no useful purpose other than to punish my client even more than he has already punished himself.  I ask, your honor, what good would that do?  Are we not all Floridians here?  Have we not all, at one time or another, shot a loved one in the face and suffered the mental anguish that follows?  I know that I have, your honor, I know that I have.  Rather than punish my client, I contend that the state should recognize him for bravely confronting this challenge and overcoming it.  I suggest a reward of some kind would be the only appropriate response.  Perhaps the state could start by buying my client a new phone to replace the one that he was forced to destroy in an attempt to end his mental torment."
 
2021-01-26 10:27:44 AM  
Ahhh yes, the root. If they didn't have race-bait, they'd have no site at all. I could never live like that..
 
2021-01-26 10:41:10 AM  

stinkynuts: Ahhh yes, the root. If they didn't have race-bait, they'd have no site at all. I could never live like that..


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
2021-01-26 10:45:47 AM  

moresugar: "Your honor, we cannot lose sight of the real victim here.  My client was completely traumatized by having to shoot his secret gay lover in the face.  To send him to jail would simply compound this tragedy and serve no useful purpose other than to punish my client even more than he has already punished himself.  I ask, your honor, what good would that do?  Are we not all Floridians here?  Have we not all, at one time or another, shot a loved one in the face and suffered the mental anguish that follows?  I know that I have, your honor, I know that I have.  Rather than punish my client, I contend that the state should recognize him for bravely confronting this challenge and overcoming it.  I suggest a reward of some kind would be the only appropriate response.  Perhaps the state could start by buying my client a new phone to replace the one that he was forced to destroy in an attempt to end his mental torment."


You assume that there was ever a real trial. Here's how this went down:

Lawyer (friends with the family, golfs with the judge) walked over to the prosecutor before the court session began and handled it. End of story. That is how Florida works. How do I know this? Because that is exactly how I handled a corrupt cop trumped-up "ticket" I got once in Clay County. Money changed hands and I walked out before the court session even started; all the County actually wanted was to take my money, plain and simple. If I had been dirt poor and also didn't have that lawyer friend I would have gone to jail that day because of the State of Florida's inability to take accurate VIN readings at the DMV.
 
2021-01-26 10:57:05 AM  

SomeFarkinFarmgirl: I'm still trying to figure out why the prosecution couldn't obtain any of the erased texts from Fraser's phone. Is there some side-effect of Stand-Your-Ground where it prevents the state from gaining full access to your communications due to potential self-incrimination? If they have to prove you weren't attacked, can that prevent them from getting a warrant?


They chose to not pursue the evidence.  This was a cover-up.
 
2021-01-26 11:32:24 AM  

thespindrifter: Lawyer (friends with the family, golfs with the judge) walked over to the prosecutor before the court session began and handled it. End of story. That is how Florida works. How do I know this? Because that is exactly how I handled a corrupt cop trumped-up "ticket" I got once in Clay County.


Dude, your experience in Green Cove Springs may have some similarities with how they do shiat in Baker County, but it's not "how Florida works" in the parts of Florida where 90% of people live.

In Miami, the lawyer and the judge might do lines of coke together at the club. Please, don't insult this great state by presenting us as a corruption monoculture. Our corruption is multifaceted and diverse.
 
2021-01-26 1:08:44 PM  

smunns: fuzzybacchus: Tabletop: "defendants are not even required to prove that they acted in self-defense."

Isn't that how it is for all crimes in the United States? I don't have to prove I'm innocent, it's on the state to establish my guilt.

looks like the legal landscape has shifted around quite a bit since i passed the bar.  another good object lesson that "my law" is not necessarily "your law."  While the level of burden appears to be varied from state to state, more states have adopted a presumed reasonableness standard that basically puts all of the burden on the procecutor....  https://www.ncsl.org/r​esearch/civil-and-criminal-justice/sel​f-defense-and-stand-your-ground.aspx

Farkers are known for their extreme left wing liberal viewpoints not their intelligence or critical thinking skills.


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