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(KRTV Great Falls)   Man sentenced for chaining Ten Commandments monument to his truck, dragging it off courthouse lawn, violating Number 8   (krtv.com) divider line
    More: Silly, Montana, Anthony Weimer of Columbia Falls, Flathead County, Montana, Court documents, Flathead County Courthouse, United States district court, Crime, Kalispell, Montana  
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2021-01-25 5:08:07 PM  
17 votes:
And it's a good thing he didn't work up a Number 6 on anyone.
 
2021-01-25 6:28:19 PM  
12 votes:
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2021-01-25 5:29:35 PM  
12 votes:
There's no commandment against vandalism. So clearly, they can't put him on trial.
 
2021-01-25 5:47:47 PM  
8 votes:
Damaging movie paraphernalia is a serious crime.   That monument to the gullibility of a state legislature in promoting a movie needs to be there forever, with the story about how easy it is to troll politicians.

There is this monument, created to get around a zoning ordinance that disallowed giant US Flags from flying, distracting from the natural beauty.  Some real estate developer got his giant flag landmark to lure suckers into buying land with this ruse.


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2021-01-25 5:28:49 PM  
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2021-01-25 5:13:58 PM  
5 votes:
Good for him. The Ten Commandments have nothing to do with our laws anyway, except for thou shall not kill and thou shall not steal and I think we could have figured those out ourselves. And even those are highly negotiable.
 
2021-01-25 6:40:14 PM  
4 votes:

Mugato: Good for him. The Ten Commandments have nothing to do with our laws anyway, except for thou shall not kill and thou shall not steal and I think we could have figured those out ourselves. And even those are highly negotiable.


They actually have a LOT to do with our laws.  Whether you agree with the Invisible Sky God aspect that they premise, the fact is that much of Western Society, which is what the United States grew out of, was premised.  They underpin and form us.  As do other things.

Even many of the Founding Fathers who specifically rejected the concept of Christianity as a governing philosophy or a matter of religious belief, revered the 10 Commandments (and much of the Bible in general).

As one example, in a letter to Madison, Jefferson wrote that Christianity was the most evil system ever designed to enslave man.  YET, the Bible and it's teachings was the most perfect expression and system of laws for teaching mankind morality.

In his response, Madison said he couldn't agree with Jefferson's claim that it was the most evil system.  But that was only because he hadn't studied EVERY religion.  But he agreed with the assessment that the teachings of Jesus were the most perfectly suited upon which to base a society.

And these were the people largely response for the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution respectively.

So attempting to say the 10 Commandments have nothing to do with our laws is disingenuous at best.

There was a challenge several years ago to the Supreme Court in Washington.  The Supreme Court in D.C. has a statute of Moses as one of the great law givers.  The court noted that the panels and statutes in the Supreme Court and other buildings around D.C. honored the sources of our laws and did not automatically establish a religion.

I would also note that it has a statute of Confucious as well.

So disabuse yourself of the idea that the 10 Commandments "have nothing to do with our laws anyway."  You'd be wrong.
 
2021-01-25 5:27:37 PM  
4 votes:

UberDave: And it's a good thing he didn't work up a Number 6 on anyone.


For the uninitiated...

Blazing Saddles - The ol' Number 6
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2021-01-25 5:24:31 PM  
4 votes:
And if he had just started a small riot/insurrection at the US Capitol, the GOP would be calling for him to be cleared of all wrongdoing.
 
2021-01-25 7:51:51 PM  
3 votes:

Mugato: AppleOptionEsc: Misrepresentation, fraud, scams, false advertising, stolen valor, lying to a court however is against the law. However equally the law is applied is a debate. But lying is illegal when the law is around.

Yeah but that;s not really what the Commandment says. Simply lying no matter what the circumstance isn't against the law. The things you describe fall more under Thou Shall Not Steal. Fine, Half a point.


I don't know enough about entomology or words and translations of ancient Hebrew or aramaic to old English to modern day English, but unless you have God in front of you, a witness is a term we use in a court of law. Bearing false witness is lying in a court/tribunal/trial, etc.
 
2021-01-25 7:59:19 PM  
2 votes:

bighairyguy: If everyone would just leave other people's stuff alone, the world would be a better place.


yeah, but then there would be no babies
 
2021-01-25 7:13:25 PM  
2 votes:

LOLITROLU: bighairyguy: If everyone would just leave other people's stuff alone, the world would be a better place.

The complication is that a public courthouse, by definition, belongs to all of us.


I want it next week then.
 
2021-01-25 6:59:51 PM  
2 votes:

Watubi: Jacobite_55: Mugato:
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That whole diatribe was, as you put it, disingenuous.  The point you are purposely ignoring is, religious monuments should not be on government grounds, especially where people of all religious denominations (or lack thereof) are supposed to get a fair trial.  What those religious monuments represent is irrelevant."

Not purposefully ignoring anything my friend.  The gentleman's comment was that the 10 Commandments had nothing to do with our laws.  That is... in fact... wrong.  The 10 Commandments are part of what the entirety of Western Society (including us) is based on.

But expanding that out, the fact that the source of a law is religious, doesn't make the recitation of that law religious.

So no ignoring any arguments going on.  But thanks for playing.
 
2021-01-25 6:03:18 PM  
2 votes:
While i'll agree a ten commandment monument has no place at a courthouse there is a better way top get it removed.   Though i'll also admit his way is usually the fastest if temporary method.
 
2021-01-25 7:56:03 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: LOLITROLU: bighairyguy: If everyone would just leave other people's stuff alone, the world would be a better place.

The complication is that a public courthouse, by definition, belongs to all of us.

Too bad the piece of property that this guy attempted to steal doesn't belong to him, though. Theft is theft.


Shhhh.... don't tell him.  He's still trying to figure out why the FBI is trying to contact him about his trip to D.C. a couple of weeks ago.
 
2021-01-25 6:10:38 PM  
1 vote:
Maybe he's just protecting people who are granite-intolerant.
 
2021-01-25 6:08:46 PM  
1 vote:
If they are in order he removed #3 "No graven images or likenesses". Which would have merited and IRONIC tag

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2021-01-25 5:58:31 PM  
1 vote:
I talked to him on Twitter. He started commenting on a thread describing the incident. Guy was weird AF, kept on free associating and slipping into pseudo bible verses.  There's really no concrete way to prove it was him, but I really think that it was... this guy has some serious mental hygiene issues.
 
2021-01-25 5:55:55 PM  
1 vote:

toraque: Mugato: Good for him. The Ten Commandments have nothing to do with our laws anyway, except for thou shall not kill and thou shall not steal and I think we could have figured those out ourselves. And even those are highly negotiable.

I dunno.  The whole "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor" would have been a good one for the Q idiots and Trumpers spewing the stupidest, most transparent lies to have followed.


We don't know if God is a Calvinist or not. Is false witness subjective or objective.

What I am saving is it a sin to be born stupid?
 
2021-01-25 5:48:08 PM  
1 vote:

toraque: Mugato: Good for him. The Ten Commandments have nothing to do with our laws anyway, except for thou shall not kill and thou shall not steal and I think we could have figured those out ourselves. And even those are highly negotiable.

I dunno.  The whole "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor" would have been a good one for the Q idiots and Trumpers spewing the stupidest, most transparent lies to have followed.


Yeah but if when you and I meet for dinner tonight (you'd better be on time), and you wear a skimpy little nothing that doesn't flatter your hinder and I still say "you look good", that's bearing false witness but it's not illegal.

Neither is killing or stealing, under the right circumstances.
 
2021-01-25 5:44:51 PM  
1 vote:
Was this the guy you was upset the 10 Commandments weren't IN the courthouse or am I remembering a different guy?
 
2021-01-25 5:35:15 PM  
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2021-01-25 5:21:59 PM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Good for him. The Ten Commandments have nothing to do with our laws anyway, except for thou shall not kill and thou shall not steal and I think we could have figured those out ourselves. And even those are highly negotiable.


I dunno.  The whole "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor" would have been a good one for the Q idiots and Trumpers spewing the stupidest, most transparent lies to have followed.
 
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