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2021-01-25 2:43:53 PM  
Watch it end up being a perfect Covid-19 transportation device.
 
2021-01-25 3:09:58 PM  
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2021-01-25 5:15:13 PM  
Poking holes in the container mostly does the job, if the restaurant isn't too far.
 
2021-01-25 5:22:47 PM  
I live out in the sticks so most of the fast food joints are a bit of a haul. It's especially bad if I want Five Guys fries because it will take at least 20 minutes to get home. I just pop them in my air fryer for about 5 minutes and they warm up nice and crispy.
 
2021-01-25 5:28:45 PM  
At 20 cent  cents a pop, that is way too expensive for restaurants. If the tech is good, i could see them being useful for consumers though.
 
2021-01-25 5:30:46 PM  
Maybe order them from a local restaurant instead of having them delivered all the way from France.
 
2021-01-25 5:44:29 PM  

Slypork: I live out in the sticks so most of the fast food joints are a bit of a haul. It's especially bad if I want Five Guys fries because it will take at least 20 minutes to get home. I just pop them in my air fryer for about 5 minutes and they warm up nice and crispy.


Five Guys fries are a lot of things. Crispy has never been one of them.
 
2021-01-25 5:54:06 PM  
Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.
 
2021-01-25 5:59:42 PM  
Doesn't necessarily work for delivery, but this works pretty well for takeout:
1.  Order an extra side of fries
2.  Leave someone at home and preheat a heavy pan in the oven at 450F
3.  Pick up the order and immediately open the fries and start eating (You need to vent the hot moist air and it would be stupid to not eat them.  This is why  your ordered extra)
4.  When you get home, put the fries on the pan and cook for 5-10 minutes
5.  Enjoy fries 85% as good as they were hot from the fryer

If it is a place that makes good burgers, then order your burger medium rare with the bun on the side.  Re-toast the bun with the fries and 15-30 seconds in the microwave gets the burger to a perfect medium.
 
2021-01-25 6:06:37 PM  
That's pretty much the problem with fries.  For best results you eat them first.  If in the burger joint you eat at least half of them before finishing your burger.  If in a drive thru you eat them on the ride home.  For delivery I'm guessing you're screwed, I've never had fries delivered.

The problem with eating them first is you eschew the ketchup and salt, which along with them being piping hot amplifies the tasty attribute 3d16.
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2021-01-25 6:12:14 PM  
This is why I eat chips instead.
 
2021-01-25 6:15:56 PM  
hmm... I was thinking it was going to be some sort of vegetable viagra
 
2021-01-25 6:16:04 PM  
I like soggy fries.  Just drizzle some mayo on the pile, toss in some shredded cheese and eat with a fork.
 
2021-01-25 6:36:55 PM  
Some fries are not meant to be crispy, chips (aka steak fries) are better a bit soft.  Five Guys fries make the best poor excuse for Poutine.  Five Guys fires, small mozzarella cubes* and brown gravy.  It works.

*closest source for cheese curds is 90 minutes away.
 
2021-01-25 6:42:25 PM  

State_College_Arsonist: I like soggy fries.  Just drizzle some mayo on the pile, toss in some shredded cheese and eat with a fork.


Congratulations, you're now farkied as a psychopath.

Mr. Breeze: Slypork: I live out in the sticks so most of the fast food joints are a bit of a haul. It's especially bad if I want Five Guys fries because it will take at least 20 minutes to get home. I just pop them in my air fryer for about 5 minutes and they warm up nice and crispy.

Five Guys fries are a lot of things. Crispy has never been one of them.


I wouldn't mind a little more crispness from my Five Guys fries. Not a lot, but some.
 
2021-01-25 6:45:01 PM  
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2021-01-25 6:47:45 PM  

natazha: Some fries are not meant to be crispy, chips (aka steak fries) are better a bit soft.  Five Guys fries make the best poor excuse for Poutine.  Five Guys fires, small mozzarella cubes* and brown gravy.  It works.

*closest source for cheese curds is 90 minutes away.


We made poutine last week using my wife's homemade halloumi. Actually worked well as a cheese curd substitute when crumbled up as it kept some texture without melting. Made the fries from scratch and had some pork stock leftover from another meal that we turned into gravy. May not have been traditional, but it was delicious.
 
2021-01-25 6:51:09 PM  

Snotnose: That's pretty much the problem with fries.  For best results you eat them first.  If in the burger joint you eat at least half of them before finishing your burger.  If in a drive thru you eat them on the ride home.  For delivery I'm guessing you're screwed, I've never had fries delivered.

The problem with eating them first is you eschew the ketchup and salt, which along with them being piping hot amplifies the tasty attribute 3d16.
.


When we buy hot chicken and chips, we go to a place 15 minutes drive away just because the chips are out of this world. They are just the right mix of crispy and fluffy, and just the right amount of residual oil on them to stop them from being dry, but not greasy. They reheat brilliantly, but most of the bag never lasts the journey home.
 
2021-01-25 6:57:50 PM  

RogermcAllen: Doesn't necessarily work for delivery, but this works pretty well for takeout:
1.  Order an extra side of fries
2.  Leave someone at home and preheat a heavy pan in the oven at 450F
3.  Pick up the order and immediately open the fries and start eating (You need to vent the hot moist air and it would be stupid to not eat them.  This is why  your ordered extra)
4.  When you get home, put the fries on the pan and cook for 5-10 minutes
5.  Enjoy fries 85% as good as they were hot from the fryer

If it is a place that makes good burgers, then order your burger medium rare with the bun on the side.  Re-toast the bun with the fries and 15-30 seconds in the microwave gets the burger to a perfect medium.


Okay, that probably does work, but then why don't you just buy the premade ingredients from the grocery store? Frozen fries, frozen burger patties, and buns. They'll take about two to three times as long to cook as it takes to reheat the restaurant food, but it's a lot cheaper and you can keep them in your freezer so you don't need to bother driving to the restaurant.
 
2021-01-25 7:04:08 PM  
Use a hard fat to fry. Tallow gets firm in the starch matrix as it cools.
 
2021-01-25 7:18:18 PM  
We used to tape the container closed, leaving two of the flaps open. That would allow the steam to vent and reduce the sogginess. Seemed to work out pretty well.
 
2021-01-25 7:19:59 PM  

palelizard: State_College_Arsonist: I like soggy fries.  Just drizzle some mayo on the pile, toss in some shredded cheese and eat with a fork.

Congratulations, you're now farkied as a psychopath.

Mr. Breeze: Slypork: I live out in the sticks so most of the fast food joints are a bit of a haul. It's especially bad if I want Five Guys fries because it will take at least 20 minutes to get home. I just pop them in my air fryer for about 5 minutes and they warm up nice and crispy.

Five Guys fries are a lot of things. Crispy has never been one of them.

I wouldn't mind a little more crispness from my Five Guys fries. Not a lot, but some.


Harumph, I say!  Mayonnaise is the best condiment for fries.
 
2021-01-25 7:31:41 PM  

State_College_Arsonist: palelizard: State_College_Arsonist: I like soggy fries.  Just drizzle some mayo on the pile, toss in some shredded cheese and eat with a fork.

Congratulations, you're now farkied as a psychopath.

Mr. Breeze: Slypork: I live out in the sticks so most of the fast food joints are a bit of a haul. It's especially bad if I want Five Guys fries because it will take at least 20 minutes to get home. I just pop them in my air fryer for about 5 minutes and they warm up nice and crispy.

Five Guys fries are a lot of things. Crispy has never been one of them.

I wouldn't mind a little more crispness from my Five Guys fries. Not a lot, but some.

Harumph, I say!  Mayonnaise is the best condiment for fries.


I don't mean that I make that super crispy. Just enough so they aren't limp like an 89 year old man without his Viagra.

As for condiments, I only like Mayo if it's the kind you get in Belgium. I don't know what they put in it but it tastes better than American Mayo and is perfect on fries.
 
2021-01-25 7:31:59 PM  

wax_on: We used to tape the container closed, leaving two of the flaps open. That would allow the steam to vent and reduce the sogginess. Seemed to work out pretty well.


Yup, its the steam that kills them. I have noticed the same thing so i just leave the bag open and eat the crispy goodness on the ride home.
 
2021-01-25 7:37:31 PM  

CrazyGerbilLady: RogermcAllen: Doesn't necessarily work for delivery, but this works pretty well for takeout:
1.  Order an extra side of fries
2.  Leave someone at home and preheat a heavy pan in the oven at 450F
3.  Pick up the order and immediately open the fries and start eating (You need to vent the hot moist air and it would be stupid to not eat them.  This is why  your ordered extra)
4.  When you get home, put the fries on the pan and cook for 5-10 minutes
5.  Enjoy fries 85% as good as they were hot from the fryer

If it is a place that makes good burgers, then order your burger medium rare with the bun on the side.  Re-toast the bun with the fries and 15-30 seconds in the microwave gets the burger to a perfect medium.

Okay, that probably does work, but then why don't you just buy the premade ingredients from the grocery store? Frozen fries, frozen burger patties, and buns. They'll take about two to three times as long to cook as it takes to reheat the restaurant food, but it's a lot cheaper and you can keep them in your freezer so you don't need to bother driving to the restaurant.


I justify it by saying I'm supporting local business.  My situation is essentially unchanged since I can work from home, so I put a $20 tip on top of my 2x $14 Yuppie burgers and fries paired with a random high margin side that I don't really need in hopes that my favorite restaurant will still be there when this is over.
 
2021-01-25 7:51:01 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.


Five Guys sometimes don't blanch their fries long enough, but they start crispy enough, and fresh, but putting them in a cup only funnels steam, so it's GONNA happen eventually. And it's seemingly intrinsically linked to their brand. Which is still better than the atrocity that is In-N-Out's fries...
 
2021-01-25 8:08:02 PM  
Soggy McDonald's fries are the best fries.
 
2021-01-25 8:16:22 PM  
Order freedom fries.
 
2021-01-25 9:01:26 PM  
Fries don't travel, period, full stop.

Even 10 minutes on your plate in house and they start to loose the crispieness

You ain't getting them home
 
2021-01-25 9:03:07 PM  

hubiestubert: Pocket Ninja: Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.

Five Guys sometimes don't blanch their fries long enough, but they start crispy enough, and fresh, but putting them in a cup only funnels steam, so it's GONNA happen eventually. And it's seemingly intrinsically linked to their brand. Which is still better than the atrocity that is In-N-Out's fries...


my old man loves them, as do i.  generally when he visits its where we go, and part of the process is to tear the bag so it forms a plate and immediately dump them in front of us.

then its all hands on deck trying to eat as many as you can before the other guy eats them all.  I will say that at around 30 bucks, its a good thing they give such a huge portion as eating all that garbage keeps me full for about 24 hours.
 
2021-01-25 9:15:07 PM  
I'm going to double down on the McDonalds fries are best soggy comment.  Shoestring, soggy, good.  I like going to McDonalds when it rains because they're more likely to be soggy right from the start.

Steak fries, crinkle cut, wedges, they're okay when they're crispy because they've got some actual potato in the middle.

I was just thinking yesterday about Red Robin's endless fries.  And endless root beer floats.  Someday.
 
2021-01-25 10:00:18 PM  
A non-nutritive cereal varnish?  It's semi-permeable, it's not osmotic, what it does is it coats and seals the flake and prevents the milk from penetrating it.
 
2021-01-25 10:03:46 PM  

hubiestubert: Pocket Ninja: Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.

Five Guys sometimes don't blanch their fries long enough, but they start crispy enough, and fresh, but putting them in a cup only funnels steam, so it's GONNA happen eventually. And it's seemingly intrinsically linked to their brand. Which is still better than the atrocity that is In-N-Out's fries...


Okay, man, I regularly see your posts, particularly in Politics, and I usually agree with you, and when I don't I respect your opinion as one I feel an intelligent person has considered, weighed their options, and chosen something different than what I would have, which is okay. People can have a difference of opinion.

But In-N-Out's fries are awesome, they taste like potatoes, and when you eat inside the restaurant, you can see this guy with a metal gauntlet slamming whole potatoes through a fry-making thing, tossing them into the frying oil straight after, then pulling them out and salting them. They taste amazing. Literally three steps, slice, fry, salt. They might not be the best after a car-ride home, partially because of their thinness (they could be thicker, acknowledged, I'm not a fan of shoestring usually), but they are delicious fresh and I will straight up fight you if you continue to impugn them.

It's like I don't even know you anymore. Next you're gonna say curly fries stink on ice.
 
2021-01-25 11:58:40 PM  

palelizard: hubiestubert: Pocket Ninja: Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.

Five Guys sometimes don't blanch their fries long enough, but they start crispy enough, and fresh, but putting them in a cup only funnels steam, so it's GONNA happen eventually. And it's seemingly intrinsically linked to their brand. Which is still better than the atrocity that is In-N-Out's fries...

Okay, man, I regularly see your posts, particularly in Politics, and I usually agree with you, and when I don't I respect your opinion as one I feel an intelligent person has considered, weighed their options, and chosen something different than what I would have, which is okay. People can have a difference of opinion.

But In-N-Out's fries are awesome, they taste like potatoes, and when you eat inside the restaurant, you can see this guy with a metal gauntlet slamming whole potatoes through a fry-making thing, tossing them into the frying oil straight after, then pulling them out and salting them. They taste amazing. Literally three steps, slice, fry, salt. They might not be the best after a car-ride home, partially because of their thinness (they could be thicker, acknowledged, I'm not a fan of shoestring usually), but they are delicious fresh and I will straight up fight you if you continue to impugn them.

It's like I don't even know you anymore. Next you're gonna say curly fries stink on ice.


Subsequently he will claim water is wet, and that the sun does indeed set in the west.
 
2021-01-26 5:57:14 AM  
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2021-01-26 8:12:02 AM  

palelizard: hubiestubert: Pocket Ninja: Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.

Five Guys sometimes don't blanch their fries long enough, but they start crispy enough, and fresh, but putting them in a cup only funnels steam, so it's GONNA happen eventually. And it's seemingly intrinsically linked to their brand. Which is still better than the atrocity that is In-N-Out's fries...

Okay, man, I regularly see your posts, particularly in Politics, and I usually agree with you, and when I don't I respect your opinion as one I feel an intelligent person has considered, weighed their options, and chosen something different than what I would have, which is okay. People can have a difference of opinion.

But In-N-Out's fries are awesome, they taste like potatoes, and when you eat inside the restaurant, you can see this guy with a metal gauntlet slamming whole potatoes through a fry-making thing, tossing them into the frying oil straight after, then pulling them out and salting them. They taste amazing. Literally three steps, slice, fry, salt. They might not be the best after a car-ride home, partially because of their thinness (they could be thicker, acknowledged, I'm not a fan of shoestring usually), but they are delicious fresh and I will straight up fight you if you continue to impugn them.

It's like I don't even know you anymore. Next you're gonna say curly fries stink on ice.


And without the blanching process, those fries sog out into the mess that happen every time you don't remove excess water. The cut is an attempt to get past the physical limitations of their attempt to make cost cutting on labor into theater.

In-N-Out have made being cheap on labor into a theatrical selling point. They do things well, and they treat the employees well, but their fries suck.
 
2021-01-26 9:39:55 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: palelizard: hubiestubert: Pocket Ninja: Since "soggy" is the default state of Five Guys fries, I can't imagine that this technology would do anything at all to even remotely redeem them.

Five Guys sometimes don't blanch their fries long enough, but they start crispy enough, and fresh, but putting them in a cup only funnels steam, so it's GONNA happen eventually. And it's seemingly intrinsically linked to their brand. Which is still better than the atrocity that is In-N-Out's fries...

Okay, man, I regularly see your posts, particularly in Politics, and I usually agree with you, and when I don't I respect your opinion as one I feel an intelligent person has considered, weighed their options, and chosen something different than what I would have, which is okay. People can have a difference of opinion.

But In-N-Out's fries are awesome, they taste like potatoes, and when you eat inside the restaurant, you can see this guy with a metal gauntlet slamming whole potatoes through a fry-making thing, tossing them into the frying oil straight after, then pulling them out and salting them. They taste amazing. Literally three steps, slice, fry, salt. They might not be the best after a car-ride home, partially because of their thinness (they could be thicker, acknowledged, I'm not a fan of shoestring usually), but they are delicious fresh and I will straight up fight you if you continue to impugn them.

It's like I don't even know you anymore. Next you're gonna say curly fries stink on ice.

Subsequently he will claim water is wet, and that the sun does indeed set in the west.


Die, heretic.
 
2021-01-26 1:37:29 PM  
I'd pay a $0.25 surcharge for the "longhaul" fry box.
 
2021-01-26 4:49:47 PM  
When we discovered that one of our regional chains, Zip's, does the best fish and chips in town, we started hitting  them up semi-regularly.  Since they're carryout/drive-through only these days and fish&chips don't travel well, we finally gave up and figure that we'll just eat them in the car.  We carry a couple of 1/4-sheet pans in the car to avoid having to juggle sauce cups, fries, fish fillets, and drinks.  We just pull over and park as soon as we leave the restaurant.  It lacks the ambiance of home dining, but life is a matter of choices.
 
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