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2021-01-25 2:54:22 PM  
Baby Hagrid?
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This is the wayvioso!
 
2021-01-25 3:23:29 PM  
Fark JK right in the pocketbook.
 
2021-01-25 4:28:08 PM  

optikeye: Fark JK right in the pocketbook.


Yeah...she went from beloved author to whatever she is doing now pretty dang quick.

I will admit an immense fondness for the series, especially narrated by Jim Dale. But, she took a twist so hard that even M. Night Shyamalan would be like "that twist was unrealistic".
 
2021-01-25 6:04:47 PM  
The books would have been better served by a serial tv adaptation. The movies cut out so much that they rarely made sense.
I doubt that's what this is, if it does get off the ground.
 
2021-01-25 6:12:47 PM  

iheartscotch: optikeye: Fark JK right in the pocketbook.

Yeah...she went from beloved author to whatever she is doing now pretty dang quick.

I will admit an immense fondness for the series, especially narrated by Jim Dale. But, she took a twist so hard that even M. Night Shyamalan would be like "that twist was unrealistic".


And all she had to do was keep her mouth shut and nod at panels for everyone's head canon and fan fiction.
 
2021-01-25 6:23:50 PM  
Yep. I have zero interest in what that TERF has to say any more.
 
2021-01-25 6:24:01 PM  
No.

Because f*ck JK Rowlings, that's why.
 
2021-01-25 6:29:55 PM  
Fleur Delacour please

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2021-01-25 6:35:42 PM  

gbv23: Fleur Delacour please

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Not that I didn't appreciate what she did with the character, but the films really dropped the ball on the Veelas.
 
2021-01-25 6:46:16 PM  
I really liked 2019's Watchmen. It used the comic as a springboard to explore other ideas. Simultaneously we got The Mandelorian which, for all its polish and budget, used the source material to indulge in fanboy wish fulfillment more than substance. (I never watched season 2 but from what I gather that aspect only got more indulgent.)

I would hope it's the Watchmen model. You could use Harry Potter... sorry, "Wizarding World" to talk about class or explore a post-fascist-takeover society's reconstruction or look at the morality of hoarding and guarding magic resources the way Black Panther did. There's a lot that people smarter than myself could do with that world. But I would be shocked if it wasn't Mandelorian-style fanservice like those dreadful Fantastic Beasts movies.

/how about an anthology show adapting interesting fanfics?
//oblig: I like the books but Rowling is trash
///I didn't hate Mando, but I found it hard to care
 
2021-01-25 7:56:43 PM  
Couldn't care less, other than to post here that I couldn't care less. She is actively making it harder for dear friends of mine to exist, and I have a *real* problem with that.
 
2021-01-25 9:55:16 PM  

moothemagiccow: The books would have been better served by a serial tv adaptation. The movies cut out so much that they rarely made sense.
I doubt that's what this is, if it does get off the ground.


It's too soon for a straight Harry Potter tv series adaptation. First they need to wait for JR Rowling to reform her image. And wait maybe 5-10 years after that.  I guess they could do Voldemort vs James and Lily, Snape and so on.
 
2021-01-25 10:00:11 PM  

Underwater Bystander: I would hope it's the Watchmen model. You could use Harry Potter... sorry, "Wizarding World" to talk about class or explore a post-fascist-takeover society's reconstruction or look at the morality of hoarding and guarding magic resources the way Black Panther did. There's a lot that people smarter than myself could do with that world. But I would be shocked if it wasn't Mandelorian-style fanservice like those dreadful Fantastic Beasts movies.


No.  Just no.

It's fine to have fictional content that explores 2021 social issues.  There's a lot of value in that.  But at the same time, not everything needs to be about 2021 social issues.  Seriously.  It's OK to have a movie that's just about imagination and having fun.

For example, Black Panther being what it was is fine.  It's always had more social commentary than the average comic book character.  But at the same time, its OK that Thor Ragnorok was just about having a good time.  It didn't need to be about class conflict or some shiat like that.

Harry Potter is a series about kid wizards having a great time at a magic school.  Stop trying to turn it into a commentary on fascism or some other nonsense.

Star Wars is a story about good Space Wizards fighting bad Space Wizards.  It's fine to insert a gun slinger that just goes around and does cool shiat in that universe.  It doesn't need a faux intellectual wrapper around it.  It doesn't need to be about 2021 America - it's OK to have escapist fantasy.

This idea that everything has to be a commentary on society and about class or fascism is so farking Soviet.
 
2021-01-25 10:25:06 PM  
F*ck JK Rowling. And Harry Potter was fine as a self-contained YA series. Trying to stretch it out just opens the huge holes in it even wider.
 
2021-01-25 10:33:27 PM  
Harry Potter and the woman who wasn't?
 
2021-01-25 11:37:27 PM  
Every time she has tried to "expand" the series, it has been a mess. That stage play was like a terrible fanfiction, the info expanding the Wizarding world outside of England was stupidly racist, the Fantastic Beasts series is just a mess. That's not even going into the whole "Dumbledore is gay.... look how progressive I am. Will we ever show him being gay? no. Also he loves a nazi. I'm so progressive." The Harry Potter series had three decent books that rapidly deteriorated with every sequel. It was a fire in a bottle sort of event. Anyone expecting something new or meaningful from this franchise is delusional at this point. Stop giving this bigot your money.
 
2021-01-25 11:48:14 PM  

Krazikarl: Underwater Bystander: I would hope it's the Watchmen model. You could use Harry Potter... sorry, "Wizarding World" to talk about class or explore a post-fascist-takeover society's reconstruction or look at the morality of hoarding and guarding magic resources the way Black Panther did. There's a lot that people smarter than myself could do with that world. But I would be shocked if it wasn't Mandelorian-style fanservice like those dreadful Fantastic Beasts movies.

No.  Just no.

It's fine to have fictional content that explores 2021 social issues.  There's a lot of value in that.  But at the same time, not everything needs to be about 2021 social issues.  Seriously.  It's OK to have a movie that's just about imagination and having fun.

For example, Black Panther being what it was is fine.  It's always had more social commentary than the average comic book character.  But at the same time, its OK that Thor Ragnorok was just about having a good time.  It didn't need to be about class conflict or some shiat like that.

Harry Potter is a series about kid wizards having a great time at a magic school.  Stop trying to turn it into a commentary on fascism or some other nonsense.

Star Wars is a story about good Space Wizards fighting bad Space Wizards.  It's fine to insert a gun slinger that just goes around and does cool shiat in that universe.  It doesn't need a faux intellectual wrapper around it.  It doesn't need to be about 2021 America - it's OK to have escapist fantasy.

This idea that everything has to be a commentary on society and about class or fascism is so farking Soviet.


Yeah, there's no fascism in Harry Potter or Star Wars, two stories about fighting homicidal leaders who crush those who oppose them and rule (their underlings, at least) with terror and violence.

Harry Potter is literally about fighting wizard-Nazis/race supremacists. Ron is poor and has to deal with that constantly. Hermione tried freeing the house elves (which Rowling torpedoed as stupid, because she herself clearly didn't realize the bad implications of a race who prefers to be slaves, no really, but also they can't leave on their own volition). Their "great time" school years involve being almost killed a lot, and being bullied by adults with little recourse, and then school is cancelled while they join the war effort.

Does everything have to be Deep and Symbolic? No, and HP and SW are clearly in the entertainment bucket. They're fairly simplistic tales of good vs evil, each very clearly defined, especially if you don't scrutinize anything. That doesn't mean they're devoid of anything to do with real life. Or at least, you gotta pick better examples further removed from those dynamics to make the entertainment argument.
 
2021-01-26 12:52:31 AM  

Boojum2k: F*ck JK Rowling. And Harry Potter was fine as a self-contained YA series. Trying to stretch it out just opens the huge holes in it even wider.


Just imagine that someone as unwoke as Tolkien could be ten times less problematic than any of the implications of the Wizarding World
 
2021-01-26 1:17:40 AM  

Krazikarl: Underwater Bystander: I would hope it's the Watchmen model. You could use Harry Potter... sorry, "Wizarding World" to talk about class or explore a post-fascist-takeover society's reconstruction or look at the morality of hoarding and guarding magic resources the way Black Panther did. There's a lot that people smarter than myself could do with that world. But I would be shocked if it wasn't Mandelorian-style fanservice like those dreadful Fantastic Beasts movies.

No.  Just no.

It's fine to have fictional content that explores 2021 social issues.  There's a lot of value in that.  But at the same time, not everything needs to be about 2021 social issues.  Seriously.  It's OK to have a movie that's just about imagination and having fun.

For example, Black Panther being what it was is fine.  It's always had more social commentary than the average comic book character.  But at the same time, its OK that Thor Ragnorok was just about having a good time.  It didn't need to be about class conflict or some shiat like that.


Valkyrie was a slave trader who sent people to their deaths.
 
2021-01-26 5:14:00 AM  

BafflerMeal: Krazikarl: Underwater Bystander: I would hope it's the Watchmen model. You could use Harry Potter... sorry, "Wizarding World" to talk about class or explore a post-fascist-takeover society's reconstruction or look at the morality of hoarding and guarding magic resources the way Black Panther did. There's a lot that people smarter than myself could do with that world. But I would be shocked if it wasn't Mandelorian-style fanservice like those dreadful Fantastic Beasts movies.

No.  Just no.

It's fine to have fictional content that explores 2021 social issues.  There's a lot of value in that.  But at the same time, not everything needs to be about 2021 social issues.  Seriously.  It's OK to have a movie that's just about imagination and having fun.

For example, Black Panther being what it was is fine.  It's always had more social commentary than the average comic book character.  But at the same time, its OK that Thor Ragnorok was just about having a good time.  It didn't need to be about class conflict or some shiat like that.

Valkyrie was a slave trader who sent people to their deaths.


Xandar was a super woke world in the MCU.
Was...
 
2021-01-26 11:11:56 AM  
As a HP afficionado (check profice for details) I've always thought that a serialised adaptation would enable a much more faithful re-telling of the overall story, filling in the massive chunks and entire chapters excised from the book to make the movies more audience-friendly. (No-one wants to spend half an hour reading about SPEW)

However, that's a complete nothing article.

Rumors that a show set within the wizarding world have persisted for some time. Now it seems those plans are moving ahead.

Next paragraph

"There are no Harry Potter series in development at the studio or on the streaming platform,"

Besides, if it's not an adaptation of the books, or a continuation of the original story, it won't work. Look at how quickly Fantastic Beasts floundered.
 
2021-01-26 12:15:53 PM  

Stantz: Besides, if it's not an adaptation of the books, or a continuation of the original story, it won't work. Look at how quickly Fantastic Beasts floundered.


I don't disagree, but here (on Fark) the nuTrek films are seen as massive successes and none of those three got close to the disappointing box office of the second Fantastic Beasts movie.
 
2021-01-26 2:05:25 PM  
Couldn't we get some more good Discworld adaptations that aren't The Watch instead?
 
2021-01-26 3:20:50 PM  
Just popping in to increase the volume of "fark JK Rowling."

fark JK Rowling.
 
2021-01-26 5:57:18 PM  

moothemagiccow: The books would have been better served by a serial tv adaptation. The movies cut out so much that they rarely made sense.
I doubt that's what this is, if it does get off the ground.


Another movie that would been better served with a series instead of movie.
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