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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   Another trainwreck. And no, this doesn't belong on the Politics tab   (cincinnati.com) divider line
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4647 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Jan 2021 at 5:31 AM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-01-25 5:45:06 AM  
I think the engineer tried to go in reverse because they realized that they were in Cincinnati, thus stacking up the cars like that.
 
2021-01-25 5:47:45 AM  
Another Trainwreck would make a great 2020 tribute band name.
 
2021-01-25 5:50:24 AM  
And somehow a literal train wreck seems better than a figurative one.  And now we're here.  What's next?  A dumpster fire?  I'll get marshmallows.
 
2021-01-25 6:12:07 AM  
There were no crew members in the train's cab during the incident, Bryan Tucker, railroad spokesperson, told The Enquirer, adding that the train was being operated remotely.

I know it will take a while to figure out if the track was defective in some way, or the guy doing the remote operation did something that would apply the locomotive brakes but not the freight car brakes.
 
2021-01-25 6:48:31 AM  
There were no crew members in the train's cab during the incident, Bryan Tucker, railroad spokesperson, told The Enquirer, adding that the train was being operated remotely.

Wow, those railroad enthusiasts had pretty elaborate sets in their basements but now they're taking it outside? I can imagine someone saying, "Phooey with this 1:72 scale stuff, I'm going 1:1". I wonder if they're going to do like Gomez Addams next?
 
2021-01-25 7:05:27 AM  
Operating the engines remotely has sadly become more common today. Most often having to do with cost cutting measures by the railroad. They make sure they are getting the utmost profit to their shareholders screwing over the worker while also lobbying congress to lighten up on safety regulations and voila! you get shiat like this. They pay a fine, slap on the wrist, rinse, repeat.
 
2021-01-25 7:09:02 AM  
A train crash in Ohio?

Somebody was not On The Ball
 
2021-01-25 7:22:37 AM  
Was there only one survivor and he was completely unharmed? If so I saw this movie and the 2 sequels.
 
2021-01-25 7:38:05 AM  

KoreanZombie: Was there only one survivor and he was completely unharmed? If so I saw this movie and the 2 sequels.


You didn't RTFA, or the thread.  There were no survivors.  I didn't submit with a better headline.
 
2021-01-25 7:42:50 AM  

Sugarmoobs: Operating the engines remotely has sadly become more common today. Most often having to do with cost cutting measures by the railroad. They make sure they are getting the utmost profit to their shareholders screwing over the worker while also lobbying congress to lighten up on safety regulations and voila! you get shiat like this. They pay a fine, slap on the wrist, rinse, repeat.


Rail freight is probably one of the best arguments for automation out there. The route is pre-determined, inflexible, and dependent on network conditions that an onsite operator wouldn't have anyway, there is no deviation possible to avoid unexpected obstacles, 99.9% of the journey is conducted at a programmed speed, and the vehicle's response to "emergency" control inputs is measured on a geological scale. The conductor is pretty much there to sign paperwork and take the blame when something goes wrong; there's next to nothing he can do on short notice to avoid a problem like this.
 
2021-01-25 7:59:42 AM  
There were no crew members in the train's cab during the incident, Bryan Tucker, railroad spokesperson, told The Enquirer, adding that the train was being operated remotely.

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2021-01-25 8:15:04 AM  

TheGogmagog: KoreanZombie: Was there only one survivor and he was completely unharmed? If so I saw this movie and the 2 sequels.

You didn't RTFA, or the thread.  There were no survivors.  I didn't submit with a better headline.


But where did they bury no survivors? The plot thickens!
 
2021-01-25 8:26:58 AM  
Silly Farker, all tabs are the politics tab.
 
2021-01-25 8:45:39 AM  

KidKorporate: Silly Farker, all tabs are the politics tab.


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2021-01-25 8:56:02 AM  

Cajnik: KidKorporate: Silly Farker, all tabs are the politics tab.

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Do we, though?
 
2021-01-25 8:56:44 AM  
Aren't you glad Biden canceled the Keystone pipeline so we can go back to using trains to ship gasoline? Road to hell paved with good intentions and all that...
 
2021-01-25 9:09:42 AM  
CSX places engines in the middle of the train and / or at the end for better control of it.. they are controlled by the front engines.  Reduces stress on the couplers and prevents broken knuckles ( the movable part of the coupler)... those engines are referred to as 'pushers'.. helps a lot when starting on an incline.
 
jph
2021-01-25 9:23:15 AM  

Sugarmoobs: Operating the engines remotely has sadly become more common today. Most often having to do with cost cutting measures by the railroad. They make sure they are getting the utmost profit to their shareholders screwing over the worker while also lobbying congress to lighten up on safety regulations and voila! you get shiat like this. They pay a fine, slap on the wrist, rinse, repeat.


Since I am in the business of railway automation, I'll just say this:

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2021-01-25 9:24:56 AM  
Cleaning that up will be a massive effort. Oh wait, it's Cincinnati. They can leave it, no one will notice.
 
2021-01-25 9:37:17 AM  
I just wonder how they clean up a mess like that. I guess they use giant cranes and such. Still, it seems to me like it would take weeks and they're talking about days. You are amazing humans.
 
2021-01-25 9:48:40 AM  

Schmerd1948: I just wonder how they clean up a mess like that. I guess they use giant cranes and such. Still, it seems to me like it would take weeks and they're talking about days. You are amazing humans.


If you have time, check out derail cleanups on youtube...  they work from both ends of a derail, rerailing cars on good track and removing them... the rail repair crews are prepared and ready to go once the train has been cleared.. an amazing spectacle to watch... very talented people...
 
2021-01-25 10:14:41 AM  
I will never have the opportunity, my time is limited maybe 20 years if I am lucky.
 
2021-01-25 10:27:03 AM  

OlderGuy: Schmerd1948: I just wonder how they clean up a mess like that. I guess they use giant cranes and such. Still, it seems to me like it would take weeks and they're talking about days. You are amazing humans.

If you have time, check out derail cleanups on youtube...  they work from both ends of a derail, rerailing cars on good track and removing them... the rail repair crews are prepared and ready to go once the train has been cleared.. an amazing spectacle to watch... very talented people...


That's the information I was looking for. Thank you very much.
 
2021-01-25 4:21:00 PM  

jph: Sugarmoobs: Operating the engines remotely has sadly become more common today. Most often having to do with cost cutting measures by the railroad. They make sure they are getting the utmost profit to their shareholders screwing over the worker while also lobbying congress to lighten up on safety regulations and voila! you get shiat like this. They pay a fine, slap on the wrist, rinse, repeat.

Since I am in the business of railway automation, I'll just say this:

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Are you trying to say going from a 3 man crew to a 1 man crew all the while adding more cars per train is safer? Because that is what I was referring to here in the US. Maybe in other countries, but here, these changes are not made for safety reasons.
 
2021-01-25 4:57:33 PM  

Sugarmoobs: jph: Sugarmoobs: Operating the engines remotely has sadly become more common today. Most often having to do with cost cutting measures by the railroad. They make sure they are getting the utmost profit to their shareholders screwing over the worker while also lobbying congress to lighten up on safety regulations and voila! you get shiat like this. They pay a fine, slap on the wrist, rinse, repeat.

Since I am in the business of railway automation, I'll just say this:

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Are you trying to say going from a 3 man crew to a 1 man crew all the while adding more cars per train is safer? Because that is what I was referring to here in the US. Maybe in other countries, but here, these changes are not made for safety reasons.


Passenger trains have 3 or more in the crew, depending on the number of cars.. freight trains all over have two.. the engineer, who drives the train, and the conductor, who has the info on car contents and can also drive the train..  the number of cars is irrelevant, and there is no need for additional crew in the remote engines, which are slaved to the front engines.. There are no one-man crews.  Never have been.  Nice try, but no cigar.. you appear to be another fake news idiot... there are ALWAYS two people in the lead engine. If one gets sick or injured, the train doesn't move until that person is replaced.  there are really strict rules on that, and they are enforced.
 
2021-01-25 6:00:59 PM  

Cajnik: A train crash in Ohio?

Somebody was not On The Ball


I'll post more context since nobody really got it

(26 min history documentary from Ohio PBS)

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