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2021-01-24 10:54:01 PM  
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2021-01-24 10:58:13 PM  
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2021-01-24 11:04:33 PM  
SMH.

Another case of over regulation killing small businesses.

It's their right as Americans to explode!
 
2021-01-24 11:18:06 PM  
Not sure if

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2021-01-25 3:37:37 AM  
Losing your business license is one heck of a way to show the local government who's boss.
 
2021-01-25 5:14:29 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Losing your business license is one heck of a way to show the local government who's boss.


Or a fast track to ending up on the Fox News/right wing talk circuit.
 
2021-01-25 6:46:41 AM  
The business version of, "Look what you made me do!"
 
2021-01-25 6:50:16 AM  
In 2015, a building in Greenwich Village tapped the gas line in similar fashion.
It didn't end well.
 
2021-01-25 6:54:24 AM  
Last year I lived in a cabin at a "Hip Camp" run by an old hippie.
I moved to the mountains the minute I heard "pandemic" and "lock-down".

The gas stove I had to use was "Harvest Gold", which was last manufactured in 1974.

Second-degree burns convinced my landlord to update.

Propane is NOT something to fark around with.

Hank Hill is correct.
 
2021-01-25 6:55:29 AM  

jtown: The business version of, "Look what you made me do!"


Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the exact mindset. If they shut off the gas, they're responsible for anyone I kill from the resulting gas leak when I try to get it illegally.

Some people just don't like being told "no".
 
2021-01-25 7:02:40 AM  
 
2021-01-25 7:04:18 AM  
You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.

/the restaurant needs to adapt to take-out/delivery only. The govt. needs to chill tf out and guide businesses on how to stay open safely.
 
2021-01-25 7:08:19 AM  
Small government business owners: Why are you regulating my business?? We believe in personal responsibility, we will do things safely without needing your expensive, job killing "regulations"

Also small government business owners: they shut out gas off for failing to comply with health orders, well I'll show them! hey frank, do you smell gas?
 
2021-01-25 7:11:18 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.

/the restaurant needs to adapt to take-out/delivery only. The govt. needs to chill tf out and guide businesses on how to stay open safely.


Soo what you're saying is that both sides are bad?
 
2021-01-25 7:13:53 AM  

themindiswatching: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Losing your business license is one heck of a way to show the local government who's boss.

Or a fast track to ending up on the Fox News/right wing talk circuit.


Just wants to retire on that sweet GoFundMe cheddar.
 
2021-01-25 7:21:20 AM  
Fools. Gas kills the 'rona. She was trying to open safely.
 
2021-01-25 7:22:13 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.


Excuse me but I do believe that prohibition specifically targeted the most essential businesses.
 
2021-01-25 7:36:44 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.

/the restaurant needs to adapt to take-out/delivery only. The govt. needs to chill tf out and guide businesses on how to stay open safely.


They already know how-to sell take out and deliver. The government needs to keep lifting licenses and start throwing the owners in jail until they do take the plague seriously
 
2021-01-25 7:37:55 AM  

freakdiablo: jtown: The business version of, "Look what you made me do!"

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the exact mindset. If they shut off the gas, they're responsible for anyone I kill from the resulting gas leak when I try to get it illegally.

Some people just don't like being told "no".


Aka Republicans (in more than one sense)
 
2021-01-25 7:38:09 AM  
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California Smoking section
 
2021-01-25 7:42:25 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.

/the restaurant needs to adapt to take-out/delivery only. The govt. needs to chill tf out and guide businesses on how to stay open safely.


You're already catching hell for a flippant and lazy comment, so I'll pile on.

QUOTE: You'd think?
Would I? Beginning a sentence this way is laughable, let alone an argument in which...

QUOTE: ...the government...
Is not a rational entity with accumulated knowledge. It's more like a circus that goes on the road and this isn't true of any particular kind of government, but all of them, except for very small populations compared to an average.

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: Excuse me but I do believe that prohibition specifically targeted the most essential businesses.

Ken Burns' Prohibition is the best (bouncy) music; The Vietnam War is the best soundtrack (Trent Reznor and YoYo Ma).
 
2021-01-25 7:44:35 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.


Oh go pound it up your ass. This restaurant owner was given plenty of opportunities to comply. Not only did he not do it, he actively tried to bypass court orders and damn near caused a fire or worse.  This is not resisting poverty; this is an entitled asshole who needs to be banned from owning a lemonade stand, let alone a restaurant.
 
2021-01-25 7:45:24 AM  

steklo: [Fark user image 780x520]

California Smoking section


csb

When Vancouver first banned smoking in bars they had these phone booth like rooms that you could go smoke in.

Was really strange because the light would come on when you entered and everyone would stare at you (even if involuntary) so most of us opted to just go outside.

Don't smoke tobacco anymore so don't care.

/csb
 
2021-01-25 7:47:02 AM  

themindiswatching: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Losing your business license is one heck of a way to show the local government who's boss.

Or a fast track to ending up on the Fox News/right wing talk circuit.


This - f**king Elex Michealson will be sucking these moron's dicks on Channel 11 within a week.
Presenting that "fair and balanced" "other side of the story".
 
2021-01-25 7:47:13 AM  

vikingfan: In 2015, a building in Greenwich Village tapped the gas line in similar fashion.
It didn't end well.


My wife worked the litigation on that case. It was not pretty.
 
2021-01-25 7:50:08 AM  
As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.
 
2021-01-25 8:00:25 AM  

steklo: [Fark user image 780x520]

California Smoking section


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Back in the day, I worked at a university around the time the state banned smoking in the workplace.  Being a university, there was plenty of open space where smokers could go and get paid not to work.  But, when it rained, there were very few covered areas that were far enough from entrances to legally smoke.  Our building had a wall of windows with a slight overhang that provided just enough space to stand against the glass and stay mostly dry.  My boss called it the fish bowl.
 
2021-01-25 8:00:51 AM  

drxym: As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.



Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.
 
2021-01-25 8:17:43 AM  

Zevon's Evil Twin: Last year I lived in a cabin at a "Hip Camp" run by an old hippie.
I moved to the mountains the minute I heard "pandemic" and "lock-down".

The gas stove I had to use was "Harvest Gold", which was last manufactured in 1974.

Second-degree burns convinced my landlord to update.

Propane is NOT something to fark around with.

Hank Hill is correct.


I tell ya h'what.
 
2021-01-25 8:18:26 AM  

FrancoFile: drxym: As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.


Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.


Well that's a bold assumption. Maybe they are just paying rent on a large dining space and were being utterly ruined by takeout only? If the government shuts everything down and won't let you work they need to provide financial support. End of story.
 
2021-01-25 8:22:12 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.

/the restaurant needs to adapt to take-out/delivery only. The govt. needs to chill tf out and guide businesses on how to stay open safely.


prohibition? you know what else a lot of government people didn't learn from about 100 years ago?
 
2021-01-25 8:24:51 AM  

RTOGUY: FrancoFile: Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.

Well that's a bold assumption.


It's really only "a bold assumption" if you ignore the fact that the owner defied a court order and illegally ran an unsafe gasline to keep his restaurant open.

Compared to THAT level of criminality, a little creative accounting is nothing.
 
2021-01-25 8:28:07 AM  
Is it really that hard to offer take out and ask your wait staff if they'd like to drive delivery now?
 
2021-01-25 8:30:51 AM  

FrancoFile: drxym: As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.


Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.


Time for a severe audit suppository.
 
2021-01-25 8:39:18 AM  

FrancoFile: drxym: As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.


Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.


And stealing tips from their waiters, those are the types that would do that.  And Libertarians would see them as heroes fighting the system.
 
2021-01-25 8:44:01 AM  

Bruscar: Is it really that hard to offer take out and ask your wait staff if they'd like to drive delivery now?


Yes it is. Traditionally takeout only spaces are small to avoid the overhead. People don't go to restaurants just for food they go for the experience and to socialize and if you own an actual restaurant and aren't filling it you are hurting. Maybe some places are squeaking by but I wouldn't be surprised if most are deep into the owner's personal line of credit by now.
 
2021-01-25 8:46:54 AM  

Latinwolf: FrancoFile: drxym: As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.


Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.

And stealing tips from their waiters, those are the types that would do that.  And Libertarians would see them as heroes fighting the system.


And littering.
 
2021-01-25 8:51:12 AM  

RTOGUY: Bruscar: Is it really that hard to offer take out and ask your wait staff if they'd like to drive delivery now?

Yes it is. Traditionally takeout only spaces are small to avoid the overhead. People don't go to restaurants just for food they go for the experience and to socialize and if you own an actual restaurant and aren't filling it you are hurting. Maybe some places are squeaking by but I wouldn't be surprised if most are deep into the owner's personal line of credit by now.


Profitable restaurant's budgets tend to be close to 30% rent, 30% staff, 30% food with 10% profit if it isn't taken emergency issues or one of the other categories. Rent two years ago was was sky high and more places were looking at turning tables two or even three times for dinner.  This just screwed up the entire business much worse and the number of owners who are getting desperate is only going to increase.
 
2021-01-25 8:52:20 AM  

RTOGUY: Bruscar: Is it really that hard to offer take out and ask your wait staff if they'd like to drive delivery now?

Yes it is. Traditionally takeout only spaces are small to avoid the overhead. People don't go to restaurants just for food they go for the experience and to socialize and if you own an actual restaurant and aren't filling it you are hurting. Maybe some places are squeaking by but I wouldn't be surprised if most are deep into the owner's personal line of credit by now.


All of which means nothing to me.  The Constitution does not guarantee the ability to be successful as a business owner.  Instead of being plague rats and fire bugs, why aren't they lobbying and petitioning for pandemic monetary relief?
 
2021-01-25 8:54:21 AM  

tuxq: You'd think prohibition would have given the government some insight on how well non-essential businesses would adapt. It's almost like Americans refuse to accept poverty even under pressure from government and biological forces.

/the restaurant needs to adapt to take-out/delivery only. The govt. needs to chill tf out and guide businesses on how to stay open safely.


Really?  Because they have been told, they are just assholes.
 
2021-01-25 8:57:06 AM  

NM Volunteer: RTOGUY: Bruscar: Is it really that hard to offer take out and ask your wait staff if they'd like to drive delivery now?

Yes it is. Traditionally takeout only spaces are small to avoid the overhead. People don't go to restaurants just for food they go for the experience and to socialize and if you own an actual restaurant and aren't filling it you are hurting. Maybe some places are squeaking by but I wouldn't be surprised if most are deep into the owner's personal line of credit by now.

All of which means nothing to me.  The Constitution does not guarantee the ability to be successful as a business owner.  Instead of being plague rats and fire bugs, why aren't they lobbying and petitioning for pandemic monetary relief?


It doesn't guarantee money for citizens either but everyone here sure seemed happy for Biden to start sending out payments.
 
2021-01-25 8:59:59 AM  

RTOGUY: NM Volunteer: RTOGUY: Bruscar: Is it really that hard to offer take out and ask your wait staff if they'd like to drive delivery now?

Yes it is. Traditionally takeout only spaces are small to avoid the overhead. People don't go to restaurants just for food they go for the experience and to socialize and if you own an actual restaurant and aren't filling it you are hurting. Maybe some places are squeaking by but I wouldn't be surprised if most are deep into the owner's personal line of credit by now.

All of which means nothing to me.  The Constitution does not guarantee the ability to be successful as a business owner.  Instead of being plague rats and fire bugs, why aren't they lobbying and petitioning for pandemic monetary relief?

It doesn't guarantee money for citizens either but everyone here sure seemed happy for Biden to start sending out payments.


And that's fine with me.  We need an actual UBI, but pandemic relief is an acceptable alternative.
 
2021-01-25 9:02:15 AM  

steklo: [Fark user image image 780x520]

California Smoking section


They should have two per table a la Get Smart.
 
2021-01-25 9:05:38 AM  
It's sad that the local govt's only enforcement authority was to shut off the utility instead of arresting them.
 
2021-01-25 9:11:18 AM  

jtown: My boss called it the fish bowl.


I worked for DISA when smoking was banned. So what they did was they build a small room with a ventilation fan in it. About the size of a bathroom if that. no windows and it reminded me of a room where they put people who've been arrested before they get placed in a jail cell. Painted cinder blocks, government tiled floor, and you could fit maybe 5 to 7 people in it. No chairs. No benches just people standing and smoking. The vents never worked so well and the room was gross and smelled like stale ciggy smoke if you were the first one in. Most people opted to go outside except in the cold or rain.

One would come out of that room and stink to high heaven.
 
2021-01-25 9:18:09 AM  

Kalashinator: They should have two per table a la Get Smart.


Oh...good idea. They need to invent tubes so two or three people can share joints/bongs too.
 
2021-01-25 9:21:42 AM  
Maybe this is overly reductive but I'm feeling a huge canyon between the concepts of "standing up against govt overreach" and "hey on top of this tall stack of fines, let's hook up an illegal gas line to the neighboring business" lol.
 
2021-01-25 9:33:57 AM  

cefm: It's sad that the local govt's only enforcement authority was to shut off the utility instead of arresting them.


Well, they can also strip them of their business license (which one would expect them to do, as this doesn't seem to be their first run in with the state).
 
2021-01-25 9:35:10 AM  

steklo: jtown: My boss called it the fish bowl.

I worked for DISA when smoking was banned. So what they did was they build a small room with a ventilation fan in it. About the size of a bathroom if that. no windows and it reminded me of a room where they put people who've been arrested before they get placed in a jail cell. Painted cinder blocks, government tiled floor, and you could fit maybe 5 to 7 people in it. No chairs. No benches just people standing and smoking. The vents never worked so well and the room was gross and smelled like stale ciggy smoke if you were the first one in. Most people opted to go outside except in the cold or rain.

One would come out of that room and stink to high heaven.


At Comerica Park in Detroit there's a smoking room that's probably 30 by 30, and it has one wall that's entirely floor-to-ceiling glass. You walk by and there's always 40 or 50 smokers standing in there, puffing away in a room that's so cloudy it's difficult to see to the other side, and the people inside look like something out of the Village of the Damned. Always makes me glad I quit that nonsense more than 20 years ago.
 
2021-01-25 9:42:48 AM  

RTOGUY: FrancoFile: drxym: As bad as lock down may be on a business, racking up an impressive number of citations and possibly criminal charges on top surely isn't going to help.


Dollars to donuts these guys have been cheating on sales taxes.  They're used to getting away with it, and didn't think this would be any different.

Well that's a bold assumption. Maybe they are just paying rent on a large dining space and were being utterly ruined by takeout only? If the government shuts everything down and won't let you work they need to provide financial support. End of story.



I've worked in restaurants and alcohol on and off for years.  The temptation to cheat on sales taxes - especially when a lot of your revenue is in cash - is strong.  "I'll only pay half of the bill this month, and then catch up next month.  February is always slow, they won't notice the difference."  And then they never dig themselves out of the hole.

Leaving out the cases where a sketchy bar has cops called to it every week because of violence, I'd estimate 80% of liquor license cancellations are due to cheating on sales tax.  Serve some minors, that's a 3-day suspension.  But don't pay the state liquor control board, and it's bye-bye.
 
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