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2021-01-24 8:50:05 PM  
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2021-01-24 8:50:19 PM  
The field goal call was inexplicable. "Hey we have less than 2 minutes left in the game on the Bucs 8 to tie it up, or we can kick a field goal and give the ball to Tom Brady and we'll still need a touchdown to win!" but then again, Aaron Rodgers could have easily run the ball in on third down but he chose to throw to a crowd instead. Even my girlfriend was confused and she doesn't watch football.
 
2021-01-24 9:03:19 PM  
They did the right thing by kicking the field goal.  I watched the game and aside from some spots of brilliance, the offense couldn't do anything. How many times was Rodgers sacked?  What would have happened if he got sacked on 4th and goal?

It's easy to do when you own the field, but what happens when you have to claw for every yard you get?
 
2021-01-24 9:11:08 PM  

PainInTheASP: They did the right thing by kicking the field goal.  I watched the game and aside from some spots of brilliance, the offense couldn't do anything. How many times was Rodgers sacked?  What would have happened if he got sacked on 4th and goal?

It's easy to do when you own the field, but what happens when you have to claw for every yard you get?


But it gained them nothing. If he got sacked on, say the Bucs 15 yard line, the Bucs would have had worse field position than they got after the field goal kickoff. And the field goal served no purpose, they were still down by 5 points and would have needed a TD anyway, but first they had to give the ball to Brady and hope for a miracle I guess. So even if that 4th down went terribly, it still was better than praying or whatever.
 
2021-01-24 9:13:16 PM  

Confabulat: The field goal call was inexplicable. "Hey we have less than 2 minutes left in the game on the Bucs 8 to tie it up, or we can kick a field goal and give the ball to Tom Brady and we'll still need a touchdown to win!" but then again, Aaron Rodgers could have easily run the ball in on third down but he chose to throw to a crowd instead. Even my girlfriend was confused and she doesn't watch football.


Yeah, I'm not sure why Rodgers did not run for it on that third down play, either. Even if he didn't score, he would have at least made it to the three. In which case, I think they would have gone for it on 4th down.

That aside, I think Green Bay lost the game by not getting squat after Brady's 2nd and 3rd interceptions. They actually went three and out on both of those possessions.
 
2021-01-24 9:23:29 PM  
Tom Brady won again, but Matt LaFleur hit Father Time with a steel chair when the ref had his back turned.
 
2021-01-24 9:46:16 PM  

Confabulat: PainInTheASP: They did the right thing by kicking the field goal.  I watched the game and aside from some spots of brilliance, the offense couldn't do anything. How many times was Rodgers sacked?  What would have happened if he got sacked on 4th and goal?

It's easy to do when you own the field, but what happens when you have to claw for every yard you get?

But it gained them nothing. If he got sacked on, say the Bucs 15 yard line, the Bucs would have had worse field position than they got after the field goal kickoff. And the field goal served no purpose, they were still down by 5 points and would have needed a TD anyway, but first they had to give the ball to Brady and hope for a miracle I guess. So even if that 4th down went terribly, it still was better than praying or whatever.


At the time it gained them three points and turned a tie game into a chance to win.  Our defense was doing marginally better so I can see why the choices were made.
 
2021-01-24 9:51:01 PM  
Heh, reading this as the game in KC turned into a bench clearing shiatshow. Ejections coming...
 
2021-01-24 9:53:35 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Ejections coming...


Or not, all penalties offset. Holy farkballs.
 
2021-01-24 9:58:48 PM  

Confabulat: PainInTheASP: They did the right thing by kicking the field goal.  I watched the game and aside from some spots of brilliance, the offense couldn't do anything. How many times was Rodgers sacked?  What would have happened if he got sacked on 4th and goal?

It's easy to do when you own the field, but what happens when you have to claw for every yard you get?

But it gained them nothing. If he got sacked on, say the Bucs 15 yard line, the Bucs would have had worse field position than they got after the field goal kickoff. And the field goal served no purpose, they were still down by 5 points and would have needed a TD anyway, but first they had to give the ball to Brady and hope for a miracle I guess. So even if that 4th down went terribly, it still was better than praying or whatever.


Down by 9 or more?  Sure.  You need two scores.

Down by 8 or less on the 8 yard line with 2 minutes to play?  If you can't f*cking score when you're actually in excellent scoring position, you probably shouldn't make plans to score based on the off chance you actually get back into scoring position (that you couldn't do f*cking anything with the first time).

Then at least they get the ball on their 8 yard line.

Inexcusable.
 
2021-01-24 10:12:46 PM  
They shouldn't have written that article before the end of the Bills/Chiefs game.
 
2021-01-24 10:15:27 PM  
LaFleur kind of forgot about the score.
 
2021-01-24 10:38:43 PM  
That game wasn't a good game by any stretch of the imagination.

Terrible defense giving up the last-second TD to the Bucs in the first half.

Three picks thrown from Brady in the second half.

Worst decision by LaFleur to kick a field goal that helped nothing and no one.

The refs decide to make a call only on the game-deciding play, because reasons, and then take a 2 minute booth review for 12 men on the field because it's not like anything matters anymore.

The Bucs didn't deserve to win that game the way they played, but the Packers sure as hell deserved to lose, and tried hard to make it happen.
 
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2021-01-24 11:08:00 PM  
There were no defenders to prevent Rodgers from running the ball in on that third down.  He could have skipped in.  That was a serious mental mistake.
 
2021-01-24 11:39:16 PM  
It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.
 
2021-01-24 11:46:42 PM  

puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.


Yep. This is it. This is all that matters in officiating. Whatever the rules are, they apply evenly and for the entire game.
 
2021-01-24 11:58:25 PM  
They had every opportunity after they shot off a foot in the first half. Bucs defense is quiet strong.
 
2021-01-25 12:00:14 AM  
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2021-01-25 12:15:44 AM  

Nah'mean: Confabulat: The field goal call was inexplicable. "Hey we have less than 2 minutes left in the game on the Bucs 8 to tie it up, or we can kick a field goal and give the ball to Tom Brady and we'll still need a touchdown to win!" but then again, Aaron Rodgers could have easily run the ball in on third down but he chose to throw to a crowd instead. Even my girlfriend was confused and she doesn't watch football.

Yeah, I'm not sure why Rodgers did not run for it on that third down play, either. Even if he didn't score, he would have at least made it to the three. In which case, I think they would have gone for it on 4th down.

That aside, I think Green Bay lost the game by not getting squat after Brady's 2nd and 3rd interceptions. They actually went three and out on both of those possessions.


This x bajillion.  It looked like Rodgers could have easily run it in on 3rd down.  Need to score TDs from getting turnovers, Packers didn't, they lost.
 
2021-01-25 12:20:59 AM  

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2021-01-25 12:51:13 AM  
A lot of battling on passes, but when a players jersey is being pulled almost a full three feet, and when the defender lost his grip he grabbed it again, it can't be argued
 
2021-01-25 1:04:49 AM  

WillofJ2: A lot of battling on passes, but when a players jersey is being pulled almost a full three feet, and when the defender lost his grip he grabbed it again, it can't be argued


Some things are so blatant and obvious you have to call them.  That play was one of them.  They let the handsy stuff go, but letting that jersey grab go would be like looking the other way on a facemask.
 
2021-01-25 1:22:59 AM  
It was 4th and goal from the 8.  Naturally since they failed on the first 3 plays, Packers fans believe that this 4th down was the one that would succeed.  Had 'em right where you wanted them: a chance to score 6 points and then be forced to convert a 2 pointer so you could be f*cking tied.  But more likely just get nothing.
 
2021-01-25 1:25:14 AM  

PainInTheASP: They did the right thing by kicking the field goal.  I watched the game and aside from some spots of brilliance, the offense couldn't do anything. How many times was Rodgers sacked?  What would have happened if he got sacked on 4th and goal?

It's easy to do when you own the field, but what happens when you have to claw for every yard you get?


Disagree. That is Aaron Rodgers. He's spent a career pulling it out of his ass in clutch situations. 3 points gained them nothing. At the very least, an onside kick would have made more sense after the three. But, let's face it, the last 2 minutes weren't the only problems in the game. Teams have become accustomed to being over-officiated. This game was under-officiated - Except for a completely ridiculous holding call, after so many others were ignored. Crappy officiating (as usual), terrible play calling, lackluster performances. In the end, it will result in Tom Brady's ego growing three sizes as the man who single-handedly got the Bucs into the SB. I was really looking forward to a Packers Chiefs game. I'll have to settle for the Chiefs pounding the Bucs.
 
2021-01-25 1:26:02 AM  
All I got to say is fark tom brady.
 
2021-01-25 1:47:40 AM  

puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.


I'm not even sure it was the right call.

Was that ball catchable? Ball's gotta be catchable for PI.

Packers blew it by abandoning the run in the second half. Teams always do it. Down 1 score with like 12 minutes left and act like they can only pass.
 
2021-01-25 2:14:06 AM  

Dafatone: Packers blew it by abandoning the run in the second half. Teams always do it. Down 1 score with like 12 minutes left and act like they can only pass.


Once Aaron Jones went down I figured they were done
 
2021-01-25 6:09:56 AM  

Dafatone: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

I'm not even sure it was the right call.

Was that ball catchable? Ball's gotta be catchable for PI.

Packers blew it by abandoning the run in the second half. Teams always do it. Down 1 score with like 12 minutes left and act like they can only pass.


Not anymore.
They changed that.

You can and will get pi in the end zone if the ball goes through the uprights and ends up 5 rows into the stands.

As far as letting penalties slide, gb benefited far more than tb.

The packers were getting away with blatant holding on virtually every drop back.

They should have had around 100 yards in holding penalties alone.
 
2021-01-25 7:16:40 AM  
Fourth and goal from the 8, the field goal was a strange call.  But, remember the Packers had first and goal from the 8 and did nothing with 3 passes.  Thought Rodgers should have run on third down.
 
2021-01-25 8:24:26 AM  

puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.


Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.
 
2021-01-25 8:41:46 AM  
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2021-01-25 8:42:17 AM  
Quit whining about the "late" pass interference call.

It's only even a thing because the stellar crew of Buck and Aiken, rabid Pack fans, made it a thing.
 
2021-01-25 8:43:02 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.


It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands
 
2021-01-25 8:44:27 AM  
Also, though, Green Bay, maybe remember 2011 and the free TD you gave Eli Manning just before halftime and don't ignore the end zone in coverage.
 
2021-01-25 8:58:19 AM  

runwiz: Fourth and goal from the 8, the field goal was a strange call.  But, remember the Packers had first and goal from the 8 and did nothing with 3 passes.  Thought Rodgers should have run on third down.


I was questioning why he didn't run it on second. He had a lane that could get him at least halfway, possibly all the way if he's willing to take the hit. But on third down? Guy almost never makes a stupid decision, and I don't recall him EVER making the chickenshiat decision until that play. He's run and scored with less. WTF, Aaron?
 
2021-01-25 9:20:05 AM  

IAmRight: Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.

It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands


The choosing of THAT time to blatantly grab a receiver and hold him right in front of a bunch of refs was absurd, since it effectively ended the game.

Blame the player who was cheating not the official who caught the cheater.
 
2021-01-25 9:33:47 AM  
In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.
 
2021-01-25 9:34:00 AM  

meanmutton: IAmRight: Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.

It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands

The choosing of THAT time to blatantly grab a receiver and hold him right in front of a bunch of refs was absurd, since it effectively ended the game.

Blame the player who was cheating not the official who caught the cheater.


The guy had been watching receivers being held all day and the defenders getting away with it.  He did the same thing and the referee decided this was the time to throw a flag.

You most certainly can blame the referee for inconsistent officiating.
 
2021-01-25 9:41:19 AM  
A Game of Throws indeed.
 
2021-01-25 9:50:55 AM  

Confabulat: Aaron Rodgers could have easily run the ball in on third down but he chose to throw to a crowd instead. Even my girlfriend was confused and she doesn't watch football.


I am not sure that was the case.
Suh was barrelling down on him but it was a bad play on Rodger's part either way.
 
2021-01-25 9:51:49 AM  

eyeq360: In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.


This. Don't blame LeFleur for taking the sensible FG. Don't blame the refs for a crappy call. If your team is in a situation where a single blown call screws you over then the team screwed themselves over long before that. Rogers threw a pick, Jones fumbled, both led to Tampa TD's. Then the offense failed to do anything when Brady gift wrapped the ball two them twice. Green Bay lost because they made mistakes and failed to capitalize on opportunities.
 
2021-01-25 9:59:47 AM  

Stargazer86: eyeq360: In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.

This. Don't blame LeFleur for taking the sensible FG. Don't blame the refs for a crappy call. If your team is in a situation where a single blown call screws you over then the team screwed themselves over long before that. Rogers threw a pick, Jones fumbled, both led to Tampa TD's. Then the offense failed to do anything when Brady gift wrapped the ball two them twice. Green Bay lost because they made mistakes and failed to capitalize on opportunities.


Packers, on paper, should have easily won. I think my wife said it best, it depends on which Packers show up. It really wasn't a single call or a single bad decision. But, if you're going to paint yourself into a corner like that- the coach should have bet on Rodgers to win instead of betting on Brady to lose. He gave the ball, willingly, back to Brady for a 2-minute drive. That has never been a safe bet.
 
2021-01-25 10:02:27 AM  

IAmRight: Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.

It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands


You can't win by trying to avoid situations that would get you a touchdown when you need a touchdown.
 
2021-01-25 10:39:26 AM  

Stargazer86: eyeq360: In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.

This. Don't blame LeFleur for taking the sensible FG. Don't blame the refs for a crappy call. If your team is in a situation where a single blown call screws you over then the team screwed themselves over long before that. Rogers threw a pick, Jones fumbled, both led to Tampa TD's. Then the offense failed to do anything when Brady gift wrapped the ball two them twice. Green Bay lost because they made mistakes and failed to capitalize on opportunities.


That was possibly the worst FG call in the history of football. They went from "need a touchdown with the ball on the 8 yard line" to "need a touchdown only the other team has the ball on the 25" . Even if they failed, they would have at least given the Bucs worse field position and had a better chance of scoring when they got the ball back.
 
2021-01-25 11:01:33 AM  

meanmutton: IAmRight: Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.

It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands

The choosing of THAT time to blatantly grab a receiver and hold him right in front of a bunch of refs was absurd, since it effectively ended the game.

Blame the player who was cheating not the official who caught the cheater.


I don't think anyone who knows the rules will deny that it was DPI. Folks are just upset that there was holding like that and more going on all game which wasn't being called (and was refreshing), but this was the moment that the refs suddenly remembered what this yellow flags that they'd been carrying around all game were for.
 
2021-01-25 11:03:10 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: meanmutton: IAmRight: Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.

It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands

The choosing of THAT time to blatantly grab a receiver and hold him right in front of a bunch of refs was absurd, since it effectively ended the game.

Blame the player who was cheating not the official who caught the cheater.

I don't think anyone who knows the rules will deny that it was DPI. Folks are just upset that there was holding like that and more going on all game which wasn't being called (and was refreshing), but this was the moment that the refs suddenly remembered what this yellow flags that they'd been carrying around all game were for.


Dpi has to be catchable
 
2021-01-25 11:17:47 AM  

meanmutton: IAmRight: Cheesehead_Dave: puffy999: It wasn't the fact that the last PI was correct... It was.

It was that the refs had let EVERY OTHER SIMILAR PLAY GO.

Consistency within a game is literally all you can ask for from referees or umpires. If you're gonna swallow the whistle, don't change your mind several swallowed whistles into the game.

Completely this.

Although... this certainly didn't decide the game. Between the poor offensive play-calling decisions on 1st and goal, not taking advantage of the Bradyceptions for points, and the sluggish start to the game, anyone who thinks the flag at the end is what cost the Packers the game is fooling themselves.

It did cost everyone at least an interesting ending, though.

The choosing of THAT time to throw the flag was absurd, since it effectively ended the game with nearly two minutes left.

/I can't fault LaFleur kicking the FG given what happened on the previous two-point conversion attempt, where the WR brick-handed a nice easy pass right into his hands

The choosing of THAT time to blatantly grab a receiver and hold him right in front of a bunch of refs was absurd, since it effectively ended the game.

Blame the player who was cheating not the official who caught the cheater.


I mean, it worked out well for the TB guy who blatantly held to get a pick that resulted in the TB TD before halftime.
 
2021-01-25 11:22:16 AM  

SuperChuck: Stargazer86: eyeq360: In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.

This. Don't blame LeFleur for taking the sensible FG. Don't blame the refs for a crappy call. If your team is in a situation where a single blown call screws you over then the team screwed themselves over long before that. Rogers threw a pick, Jones fumbled, both led to Tampa TD's. Then the offense failed to do anything when Brady gift wrapped the ball two them twice. Green Bay lost because they made mistakes and failed to capitalize on opportunities.

That was possibly the worst FG call in the history of football. They went from "need a touchdown with the ball on the 8 yard line" to "need a touchdown only the other team has the ball on the 25" . Even if they failed, they would have at least given the Bucs worse field position and had a better chance of scoring when they got the ball back.


No, going for it means you need a TD AND a 2 point conversion AND still to stop Tampa Bay with all their timeouts and the two-minute warning AND the QB that immediately comes to mind when you think of "quarterbacks guaranteed to get you in FG range in the final seconds of a playoff game for a GW FG)".

And then, if you get the stop there, you have to get another TD in OT or score and stop TB again.
 
2021-01-25 12:21:14 PM  

IAmRight: SuperChuck: Stargazer86: eyeq360: In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.

This. Don't blame LeFleur for taking the sensible FG. Don't blame the refs for a crappy call. If your team is in a situation where a single blown call screws you over then the team screwed themselves over long before that. Rogers threw a pick, Jones fumbled, both led to Tampa TD's. Then the offense failed to do anything when Brady gift wrapped the ball two them twice. Green Bay lost because they made mistakes and failed to capitalize on opportunities.

That was possibly the worst FG call in the history of football. They went from "need a touchdown with the ball on the 8 yard line" to "need a touchdown only the other team has the ball on the 25" . Even if they failed, they would have at least given the Bucs worse field position and had a better chance of scoring when they got the ball back.

No, going for it means you need a TD AND a 2 point conversion AND still to stop Tampa Bay with all their timeouts and the two-minute warning AND the QB that immediately comes to mind when you think of "quarterbacks guaranteed to get you in FG range in the final seconds of a playoff game for a GW FG)".

And then, if you get the stop there, you have to get another TD in OT or score and stop TB again.


Which, as implausible as that is, was at least a chance. An onside kick and forcing a 4 and out was a better chance than giving the ball to Tom Farking Brady for a 2 minute drive. Brady is amazingly astonishingly astoundingly good at those.  Bad decision - not the first one of the game. It hurts me to say this, but Greenbay was out-coached  and outplayed. At least the Chiefs are giving me a reason to watch the SB.
 
2021-01-25 1:12:46 PM  

Hey Nurse!: IAmRight: SuperChuck: Stargazer86: eyeq360: In the last 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter, Rogers threw an INT that led to a Tampa Bay TD with 1 second left. Jones started the 3rd quarter with a fumble that led to a Tampa Bay TD. Two Tampa Bay TDs in less than two minutes. That pretty much farked the Packers and any real chances of winning by turning a very managable 14-10 game to a difficult to win 28-10 game.

Not scoring any points off of two Brady INTs just added to their problems.

The whole FG instead of a TD argument wouldn't be a damn Twitter thing if the Packers didn't fark things up so much in a 90 second span that it led to two quick Bucs TDs.

This. Don't blame LeFleur for taking the sensible FG. Don't blame the refs for a crappy call. If your team is in a situation where a single blown call screws you over then the team screwed themselves over long before that. Rogers threw a pick, Jones fumbled, both led to Tampa TD's. Then the offense failed to do anything when Brady gift wrapped the ball two them twice. Green Bay lost because they made mistakes and failed to capitalize on opportunities.

That was possibly the worst FG call in the history of football. They went from "need a touchdown with the ball on the 8 yard line" to "need a touchdown only the other team has the ball on the 25" . Even if they failed, they would have at least given the Bucs worse field position and had a better chance of scoring when they got the ball back.

No, going for it means you need a TD AND a 2 point conversion AND still to stop Tampa Bay with all their timeouts and the two-minute warning AND the QB that immediately comes to mind when you think of "quarterbacks guaranteed to get you in FG range in the final seconds of a playoff game for a GW FG)".

And then, if you get the stop there, you have to get another TD in OT or score and stop TB again.

Which, as implausible as that is, was at least a chance. An onside kick and forcing a 4 and out was a better chance than giving the bal ...


The problem with that line of thinking is that you're looking at it as if it exists in a vacuum and no other context.  The Packers had been stopped on 6 passing plays in that same scenario.  They also had already failed a 2 pt conversion, which presumably was their best play call for that situation and leaving them with the next best call on the playsheet.  And the Packers had not been very successful with 2 pters all season long.  On top of that, even if ALL of those things would have gone right for the Packers, Brady would have gotten the ball with 2 mins and only needing to drive to FG range for a win.  So, I think LaFleur made the right choice and, honestly, he was almost rewarded for it until the rrrrrreally unfortunate penalty (as has been hashed and re-hashed, yes, a penalty but, no, not consistently called and on top of that, either Z. Smith or Gary was being blatantly held on that same play).

Really, the Packers did screw themselves a lot this game, but the refs didn't do them any favors.  Rodgers INT never should have been, and it was frustrating to hear Buck and Aikman acknowledge it, briefly, but then also talk about what a good play it was.  I know in other FOX broadcasts of Packers games, I've heard the announcers harp on any missed calls that benefit the Packers even to the point of showing a replay of a non-call two quarters later while waxing philosophical about, "Oh how that could have changed the flow of this game."  I guess I don't blame fans for questioning these decisions, that's part of being a fan, but I do feel like sports journalists should probably be doing a job of actual analysis and explaining why a decision was made instead of doing clickbait stories that feed into the fan frenzy and just supporting the popular Twitter opinions in the immediate aftermath.  Someone on SI wrote a story right after the game that pointed out that analytics actually supported LaFleur, but still it was the wrong choice and blah blah blah.

Phew, sorry for the long diatribe about this...I guess there is a reason I almost never post in the sports tab.  But, it did feel cathartic to get that off my chest because, as much as I was disappointed about the loss, the narrative surrounding it has been bothering me a lot more.
 
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