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2021-01-24 5:57:08 PM  
33 votes:

yakmans_dad: We were on a Zoom call with friends last night in which we both talked about foxes moving into our very urban neighborhoods. One of them said that they had coyote issues. In town.


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2021-01-24 6:33:02 PM  
23 votes:

yakmans_dad: We were on a Zoom call with friends last night in which we both talked about foxes moving into our very urban neighborhoods. One of them said that they had coyote issues. In town.


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2021-01-24 6:24:41 PM  
19 votes:

tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed


"I'm pregnant" - his girlfriend
 
2021-01-24 6:51:10 PM  
7 votes:
I don't know, I know a few animals who are city folk

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2021-01-24 6:44:33 PM  
7 votes:
The villages?  Well, it is Florida's friendliest hometown.
 
2021-01-24 6:30:26 PM  
4 votes:

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: yakmans_dad: We were on a Zoom call with friends last night in which we both talked about foxes moving into our very urban neighborhoods. One of them said that they had coyote issues. In town.

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2021-01-24 10:29:57 PM  
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"Life... finds a way."

 
2021-01-24 10:21:06 PM  
2 votes:

Mikey1969: 2fardownthread: Mikey1969: Northern: tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed

Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes

Fark is nothing if not a bunch of child haters.

Parents are special people who are immune to hatred of children and hatred from children.

And that is what it takes.

I like kids better than adults for the most part. Your kid has to do something really egregious for me to hold it against them.

Dogs, too. Kids and dogs are the best people.


I love dogs. Most animals really. But not humans in general, most are dreadful, only some individuals are nice. Don't like kids. Unless you mean baby goats, they are gorgeous.

I really do not understand the people who like children but dislike dogs. Dogs are way better than children.
 
2021-01-24 7:26:23 PM  
2 votes:

buntz: I don't know, I know a few animals who are city folk

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2021-01-24 7:04:44 PM  
2 votes:

tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed


Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes
 
2021-01-24 5:54:48 PM  
2 votes:
"To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed
 
2021-01-24 9:52:49 PM  
1 vote:

2fardownthread: stuffy: Guess the tax deduction is no longer a good enough reason to have crotch fruit.

Tax deduction? Are you kidding? If your income qualifies, you get 1000 bucks per month, per kid, until they are, I think, 16. If your income does not qualify, you get ZIP. Add in universal health care, and it is a pretty good deal.

The policy is "blessed be the fruit of they crotch" apparently.

Balanced against that are the high costs in Japan. You know, houses cost 100,000 dollars outside of the big cities. Ski lift tickets cost 15 dollars. A meal at McDonalds can cost 6 dollars or more. If you want a train trip for an entire day on a local train, it can cost 20 dollars. Public schools are good, and free, up through junior high. They are good and almost free thereafter. A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars. It all adds up.


Lol, "high costs"? A $100,000 home or a $15 lift ticket? Please, punish me with those astronomical markups!
 
2021-01-24 9:47:43 PM  
1 vote:

Northern: tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed

Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes


Fark is nothing if not a bunch of child haters.
 
2021-01-24 9:25:37 PM  
1 vote:
Sounds too much like "Battlefield Earth"... I dunno.

/greatest film ever
//not even a 1.6 IMDB score could thwart Barry Pepper's greatest role
 
2021-01-24 9:03:46 PM  
1 vote:

2fardownthread: Cornelis de Gyselaer: 2fardownthread: SwiftFox: 2fardownthread: Well. That was not my mistake. I think you do not understand the problem. Go look up Kamoshika in Wikipedia or something and get back to me.

If you know what bears are, and that Japan still has a lot of bears, that might help too.

I knew what kamoshika were (my spell checker does not), those deer/goat/sheep things. If you still have bears then you still have potential wolf habitat.

OK. Well, the kamoshika have been protected, along with other species, to the point that I am not even allowed to bother them. Wolves would have killed them all by now. So I am guessing that Japan at some point decided that wolves were incompatible with humans and got rid of them, OR they decided that wolves were not compatible with three or four other species that were fast enough to get away from bears, but not from wolves. You and I have accepted the huge numbers of such animals as some proof that wolves "should" have a place in the Japan ecology.

So I guess wolves could be reintroduced. For different reasons, I might even like that. I don't think humans in general would want that, though, and it does seem to make some things less manageable.

Hunting the bears and taking their habitats is what bothers me. Whatever one thinks about wolves, bears do not "pack up" and seem to be able to keep things in balance without being too much of a problem for most humans. They chew the odd elderly mushroom hunter or child, but they are not going to leave grandma's bones scattered over a football sized area. Maybe that is just a bias. Japan should leave the bears or it will eventually have to bring back the wolves or import hunters from America's rural south.

Note how close they are to an Akita

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareli​an_Bear_Dog

I get it. I see. I did not want to get into the topic of feral dogs and cats. I think I have never seen a feral dog in Japan. I can think of reasons why that might be. But feral cats.... come and go.... At some level out there in the jungle, there is a war going on, and I do not know what is winning. Just below the Kamoshika/Bear/deer level at the apex is the level of tanuki/fox/cat/small dog/boar/crow/eagle warfare.

I don't want to get too gross, but there is a lot of carnage to the point that i see waves of animals dominate the forests around my house. I have seen eagles fly past with kittens in their talons, remains of various animals during forest walks, and numerous abandoned caves and thickets. It is a tough life. It keeps the vermin level way way down. No rats, mice, or cockroaches that I can find.

A wolf pack or a pack of feral dogs would roll over that battle zone and take no prisoners. Nobody has ever researched this, I bet, but it might be where the practice of eating dogs in some cultures originated from. Second tier predators have been encouraged or tolerated, but dogs have been either domesticated, or they have been eaten.


I wasn't even thinking feral
A perimeter of trained Akita would keep the bears contained or have roving squads patrol

Karelians are not house pets they're close to feral even trained
Akita are capable of being house pets and guardians

Like a Pyrenees or an Anatolian shepherd
 
2021-01-24 8:40:44 PM  
1 vote:

SwiftFox: You can blame this guy:
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Norman Borloug's Green Revolution meant people didn't have to have 10 kids to insure a couple would survive to carry on the family line and take care of them in age.  So the billion plus he saved, and made prosperous, started to carry out their own uncoerced birth control.


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2021-01-24 8:00:14 PM  
1 vote:

Cornelis de Gyselaer: anuran: Cornelis de Gyselaer: anuran: Demographers have been talking about this for more than thirty years. The general population just wasn't listening. Sadly, neither were governments outside of maybe China.

China had to dial back
Under Mao their population doubled
And that's with 80 million deaths from famine

It was brutal And bloodthirsty in the finest Chinese tradition. It was also another time when China recognized a trend and did something about it in advance. They cut the high-growth-low-death part short and went to low-growth-low-death remarkably quickly. I wish we had a model of long-term thinking combined with basic humanity.

We aren't a monocultural dictatorship
That makes it hard
And yes China is (enforced) han monocultural


"We have to be stupid of because we have Blacks." fark that racist lie up the ass.
 
2021-01-24 6:44:11 PM  
1 vote:
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