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2021-01-24 9:24:23 PM  

Nidiot: 2fardownthread: What will happen eventually is that the land will find its highest and best use. Farms will be combined to provide an efficient size that will support families. Already, fallow lands are being used for solar panels, which can be removed if the need for food production becomes high enough. The wild animal problem will be solved within a year of changing hunting and conservation laws.

That is better than what we do in Australia, which is cover the what little fertile land we have with housing, which cannot be removed should there become a need for food production, or dig it up to mine what lies beneath. Once that land is gone it's not coming back.


Sheesh. There was a thread yesterday about mining lithium. It is hard to know what to say. More mining!! And this time we will do it to improve the environment! It is the new justification.

I have read a lot about the history of Australia. Natural resources can be a curse in many ways. I have often thought that Japan is lucky to have so few resources. It produces a different mindset.

One thing that is being studied is how to shrink cities rationally instead of growing them. Japan has a very active "biosphere," so everything will go back to wild within a decade or so of humans moving out. Letting rural villages become ghost towns and recycling their buildings down to the slab and letting the jungle move in is not the end of the world. It does not have to be ugly and sad.

Cities are more efficient to run than an urban sprawl anyway, so why all the tears? Japanese people don't spend a lot of time worrying about it. They just deal with it.

As you have noted, arable land is at a premium in Australia, and once it gets built over with concrete, it might be gone forever. That is super short-sighted considering present trends.

The solar panel installation on farmland is a great idea for letting farmland go fallow. The panels last forever and they solve a problem facing society NOW. If food scarcity becomes a growing problem after a few years, well, just move the panels someplace else and keep on trucking. Another bizarre aspect is that solar panels are almost a ... pension program... for old farmers. They require no maintenance, so you just install it and get your monthly payments. Older people in Japan are notorious for avoiding renewable energy, but agrarian installation of solar is getting a lot of support by older people.

Certainly Australia is doing this too. I looked at the huge number of solar projects and the enormous extent of investment. Maybe the future has Australia using its huge wind and solar resources to create hydrogen and ammonia and oxygen and go shipping that off to other countries without having to mine anything. All of that cheap electricity will attract industry and populations away from arable lands. It could happen. One hopes Perth does not get built up TOO much, but maybe Perth deserves its time in the sun.

People are finding better ways of adapting. The problems deserve attention and some effort.
 
2021-01-24 9:25:37 PM  
Sounds too much like "Battlefield Earth"... I dunno.

/greatest film ever
//not even a 1.6 IMDB score could thwart Barry Pepper's greatest role
 
2021-01-24 9:28:08 PM  

Nidiot: 2fardownthread: stuffy: Guess the tax deduction is no longer a good enough reason to have crotch fruit.

Tax deduction? Are you kidding? If your income qualifies, you get 1000 bucks per month, per kid, until they are, I think, 16. If your income does not qualify, you get ZIP. Add in universal health care, and it is a pretty good deal.

The policy is "blessed be the fruit of they crotch" apparently.

Balanced against that are the high costs in Japan. You know, houses cost 100,000 dollars outside of the big cities. Ski lift tickets cost 15 dollars. A meal at McDonalds can cost 6 dollars or more. If you want a train trip for an entire day on a local train, it can cost 20 dollars. Public schools are good, and free, up through junior high. They are good and almost free thereafter. A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars. It all adds up.


I'll covert AUD to USD for the benefit of readers. In Australia a meal at Maccas: a big mac alone is $4.96 USD, the small meal $8.21 USD.

Houses in Australia, you could maybe get a run-down dump somewhere you would not want to live for $200,000 USD. Nothing in the vicinity of Sydney is under a million.

But $20 for the dentist? That is ludicrously, mind-blowingly, we-could-only-dream-of-such-fees level of cheap. I think the last time I went for a check-up and *clean* it was about $130 USD. But while the dentist might cost and arm and a leg I will at least get medical care in a hospital without going bankrupt.


Yeah. That is the joke really. When I first came to Japan, you could not call it anything but expensive. Well. Japan has been in recession for more or less 30 years now, and prices have changed little. Most of the world now seems more expensive than Japan. People will disagree, but ... ahem. The Olympics would have opened some eyes, I am sure.

On a personal note, I used to look forward to leaving Japan to go shopping. There just are not any bargains anymore. Like. Besides aspirin.
 
2021-01-24 9:45:19 PM  

Shaggy_C: I think I'd rather have the problem of too much available real estate than too little.


Yep, I don't want to be crammed into some high density city. Give me a town of like 5,000 people, and I'm happy, as long as there is a city for shopping within half an hour or so. Visit every week or two, but live in my sleepy little town with the big lots...
 
2021-01-24 9:46:21 PM  

2fardownthread: Nidiot: 2fardownthread: stuffy: Guess the tax deduction is no longer a good enough reason to have crotch fruit.

Tax deduction? Are you kidding? If your income qualifies, you get 1000 bucks per month, per kid, until they are, I think, 16. If your income does not qualify, you get ZIP. Add in universal health care, and it is a pretty good deal.

The policy is "blessed be the fruit of they crotch" apparently.

Balanced against that are the high costs in Japan. You know, houses cost 100,000 dollars outside of the big cities. Ski lift tickets cost 15 dollars. A meal at McDonalds can cost 6 dollars or more. If you want a train trip for an entire day on a local train, it can cost 20 dollars. Public schools are good, and free, up through junior high. They are good and almost free thereafter. A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars. It all adds up.


I'll covert AUD to USD for the benefit of readers. In Australia a meal at Maccas: a big mac alone is $4.96 USD, the small meal $8.21 USD.

Houses in Australia, you could maybe get a run-down dump somewhere you would not want to live for $200,000 USD. Nothing in the vicinity of Sydney is under a million.

But $20 for the dentist? That is ludicrously, mind-blowingly, we-could-only-dream-of-such-fees level of cheap. I think the last time I went for a check-up and *clean* it was about $130 USD. But while the dentist might cost and arm and a leg I will at least get medical care in a hospital without going bankrupt.

Yeah. That is the joke really. When I first came to Japan, you could not call it anything but expensive. Well. Japan has been in recession for more or less 30 years now, and prices have changed little. Most of the world now seems more expensive than Japan. People will disagree, but ... ahem. The Olympics would have opened some eyes, I am sure.

On a personal note, I used to look forward to leaving Japan to go shopping. There just are not any bargains anymore. Like. Besides aspirin.


Yeah I have recollections of people saying Japan was expensive when it came to buying food. That could have been from when they visited 30 years ago. Time flies by but the thought of Japan being expensive stuck with me. I shall have to update that.

Apparently Japan has a sizeable percentage of people able to buy luxury designer brand items. Which do sometimes end up on ebay when the owner tires of them and have purchased the newer versions. You still have to sift through a bunch of fakes to find them though.
 
2021-01-24 9:47:43 PM  

Northern: tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed

Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes


Fark is nothing if not a bunch of child haters.
 
2021-01-24 9:50:43 PM  

Mikey1969: Shaggy_C: I think I'd rather have the problem of too much available real estate than too little.

Yep, I don't want to be crammed into some high density city. Give me a town of like 5,000 people, and I'm happy, as long as there is a city for shopping within half an hour or so. Visit every week or two, but live in my sleepy little town with the big lots...


That's what I do, it's ideal. But we can't have everyone do it or we'd run out of land. HIgh density living is hell but the most efficient way to store large numbers of people. That's why fewer people overall is better.
 
2021-01-24 9:52:49 PM  

2fardownthread: stuffy: Guess the tax deduction is no longer a good enough reason to have crotch fruit.

Tax deduction? Are you kidding? If your income qualifies, you get 1000 bucks per month, per kid, until they are, I think, 16. If your income does not qualify, you get ZIP. Add in universal health care, and it is a pretty good deal.

The policy is "blessed be the fruit of they crotch" apparently.

Balanced against that are the high costs in Japan. You know, houses cost 100,000 dollars outside of the big cities. Ski lift tickets cost 15 dollars. A meal at McDonalds can cost 6 dollars or more. If you want a train trip for an entire day on a local train, it can cost 20 dollars. Public schools are good, and free, up through junior high. They are good and almost free thereafter. A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars. It all adds up.


Lol, "high costs"? A $100,000 home or a $15 lift ticket? Please, punish me with those astronomical markups!
 
2021-01-24 9:55:09 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: 2fardownthread: Cornelis de Gyselaer: 2fardownthread: SwiftFox: 2fardownthread: Well. That was not my mistake. I think you do not understand the problem. Go look up Kamoshika in Wikipedia or something and get back to me.

If you know what bears are, and that Japan still has a lot of bears, that might help too.

I knew what kamoshika were (my spell checker does not), those deer/goat/sheep things. If you still have bears then you still have potential wolf habitat.

OK. Well, the kamoshika have been protected, along with other species, to the point that I am not even allowed to bother them. Wolves would have killed them all by now. So I am guessing that Japan at some point decided that wolves were incompatible with humans and got rid of them, OR they decided that wolves were not compatible with three or four other species that were fast enough to get away from bears, but not from wolves. You and I have accepted the huge numbers of such animals as some proof that wolves "should" have a place in the Japan ecology.

So I guess wolves could be reintroduced. For different reasons, I might even like that. I don't think humans in general would want that, though, and it does seem to make some things less manageable.

Hunting the bears and taking their habitats is what bothers me. Whatever one thinks about wolves, bears do not "pack up" and seem to be able to keep things in balance without being too much of a problem for most humans. They chew the odd elderly mushroom hunter or child, but they are not going to leave grandma's bones scattered over a football sized area. Maybe that is just a bias. Japan should leave the bears or it will eventually have to bring back the wolves or import hunters from America's rural south.

Note how close they are to an Akita

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareli​an_Bear_Dog

I get it. I see. I did not want to get into the topic of feral dogs and cats. I think I have never seen a feral dog in Japan. I can think of reasons why that might be. But ...


OK. I guess I did not get it. Well. Dogs, especially special breeds, are very expensive to possess and care for. I am imagining a Venn diagram of people who could afford and care for such a dog and people who would use their time and their dog for hunting. There is not much overlap. There might be.

Like I said, bowhunters do their thing. My understanding is that they have their groups and clubs. They have prescribed methods that are quasi-traditional. They contract with local governments, farmers and other landowners.
 
2021-01-24 9:59:17 PM  

Nidiot: Mikey1969: Shaggy_C: I think I'd rather have the problem of too much available real estate than too little.

Yep, I don't want to be crammed into some high density city. Give me a town of like 5,000 people, and I'm happy, as long as there is a city for shopping within half an hour or so. Visit every week or two, but live in my sleepy little town with the big lots...

That's what I do, it's ideal. But we can't have everyone do it or we'd run out of land. HIgh density living is hell but the most efficient way to store large numbers of people. That's why fewer people overall is better.


That's the point of small towns, the people who love the city life are never gonna move to the small town, which is good. I'd like to live back in the town I grew up in in Idaho, actually. Exactly the size I mentioned, with shopping about 20 minutes away. And the fishing! We would go out on the reservoir and catch our limit in like 2 hours, with no real effort. I miss sleepy little towns, but I'm not sure how I can swing it here, all of the nearby small towns are up in the mountains, meaning that I have to drive through the mountains in the winter storms. Someday, though... 😁
 
2021-01-24 9:59:30 PM  

Mikey1969: 2fardownthread: stuffy: Guess the tax deduction is no longer a good enough reason to have crotch fruit.

Tax deduction? Are you kidding? If your income qualifies, you get 1000 bucks per month, per kid, until they are, I think, 16. If your income does not qualify, you get ZIP. Add in universal health care, and it is a pretty good deal.

The policy is "blessed be the fruit of they crotch" apparently.

Balanced against that are the high costs in Japan. You know, houses cost 100,000 dollars outside of the big cities. Ski lift tickets cost 15 dollars. A meal at McDonalds can cost 6 dollars or more. If you want a train trip for an entire day on a local train, it can cost 20 dollars. Public schools are good, and free, up through junior high. They are good and almost free thereafter. A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars. It all adds up.

Lol, "high costs"? A $100,000 home or a $15 lift ticket? Please, punish me with those astronomical markups!


Haha. Vail/Beaver Creek was something like 150 bucks or thereabouts last time I checked. I am affiliated with a ski team in this area of Japan, and I tell them how lucky they are every single time we go. The very first place I skied was Lake Eldora near Denver, and even Eldora is pricey. All the resorts are.

A rather large resort up north is called APPI. I think their lift tickets are about 18 bucks, so this is more or less nationwide in Japan.
 
2021-01-24 10:02:14 PM  

Mikey1969: Northern: tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed

Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes

Fark is nothing if not a bunch of child haters.


Parents are special people who are immune to hatred of children and hatred from children.

And that is what it takes.
 
2021-01-24 10:07:20 PM  

2fardownthread: Mikey1969: Northern: tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed

Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes

Fark is nothing if not a bunch of child haters.

Parents are special people who are immune to hatred of children and hatred from children.

And that is what it takes.


I like kids better than adults for the most part. Your kid has to do something really egregious for me to hold it against them.

Dogs, too. Kids and dogs are the best people.
 
2021-01-24 10:07:48 PM  

2fardownthread: A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars.


But really how do you get such cheap dental care?

We have great national healthcare but for some reason dental health is not part of the rest of your health, so unless you a old or on welfare and qualify for hospital dental (with a waiting list that runs into years,) it's pay full price for it or go without. Does your government subsidise yours?
 
2021-01-24 10:08:50 PM  

Nidiot: 2fardownthread: Nidiot: 2fardownthread: stuffy: Guess the tax deduction is no longer a good enough reason to have crotch fruit.

Tax deduction? Are you kidding? If your income qualifies, you get 1000 bucks per month, per kid, until they are, I think, 16. If your income does not qualify, you get ZIP. Add in universal health care, and it is a pretty good deal.

The policy is "blessed be the fruit of they crotch" apparently.

Balanced against that are the high costs in Japan. You know, houses cost 100,000 dollars outside of the big cities. Ski lift tickets cost 15 dollars. A meal at McDonalds can cost 6 dollars or more. If you want a train trip for an entire day on a local train, it can cost 20 dollars. Public schools are good, and free, up through junior high. They are good and almost free thereafter. A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars. It all adds up.


I'll covert AUD to USD for the benefit of readers. In Australia a meal at Maccas: a big mac alone is $4.96 USD, the small meal $8.21 USD.

Houses in Australia, you could maybe get a run-down dump somewhere you would not want to live for $200,000 USD. Nothing in the vicinity of Sydney is under a million.

But $20 for the dentist? That is ludicrously, mind-blowingly, we-could-only-dream-of-such-fees level of cheap. I think the last time I went for a check-up and *clean* it was about $130 USD. But while the dentist might cost and arm and a leg I will at least get medical care in a hospital without going bankrupt.

Yeah. That is the joke really. When I first came to Japan, you could not call it anything but expensive. Well. Japan has been in recession for more or less 30 years now, and prices have changed little. Most of the world now seems more expensive than Japan. People will disagree, but ... ahem. The Olympics would have opened some eyes, I am sure.

On a personal note, I used to look forward to leaving Japan to go shopping. There just are not any bargains anymore. Like. Besides aspirin.

Yeah I have rec ...


Time kept marching on. Japan has a lot of great second hand stuff. It was purchased, probably from the fruits of hard work, cared for, and now, disused. Or, a Japanese person got scammed and bought a fake. It happened a lot.

There was a time when the yen was 150 to the dollar and everything was expensive. Then prices have either not changed or they have come down. The yen is at 100 to the dollar now, more or less. That has been factored in. Productivity has increased, by and large, profits not so much. Wages not so much.

Over the same time, prices almost everywhere around the world have gone up. For everything. The world has more or less caught up.
 
2021-01-24 10:21:06 PM  

Mikey1969: 2fardownthread: Mikey1969: Northern: tasteme: "To bring a child into this world should be considered an act of cruelty." - Dr. Stanley Goodspeed

Feel free to give up your social security and Medicare if you feel that way.  My kids will be paying for it.
Or go ahead and attack families.  Clearly kids have ruined everything.
/Rolls eyes

Fark is nothing if not a bunch of child haters.

Parents are special people who are immune to hatred of children and hatred from children.

And that is what it takes.

I like kids better than adults for the most part. Your kid has to do something really egregious for me to hold it against them.

Dogs, too. Kids and dogs are the best people.


I love dogs. Most animals really. But not humans in general, most are dreadful, only some individuals are nice. Don't like kids. Unless you mean baby goats, they are gorgeous.

I really do not understand the people who like children but dislike dogs. Dogs are way better than children.
 
2021-01-24 10:29:57 PM  
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2021-01-24 10:31:58 PM  

Nidiot: 2fardownthread: A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars.

But really how do you get such cheap dental care?

We have great national healthcare but for some reason dental health is not part of the rest of your health, so unless you a old or on welfare and qualify for hospital dental (with a waiting list that runs into years,) it's pay full price for it or go without. Does your government subsidise yours?


It is part of the universal health care. I pay a ton of money and so... I subsidize it. That is what universal health care is.

Some procedures are not covered if they are not health related. Part of what Japan does is that they have all these "jerks on their death panels" who don't get swayed by emotional appeals from selfish people. Pre-natal care is paid for because some old guy does not get his Viagra paid for by the state. People can get basic health related dental care because homeopathy is not recognized as health care, etc. It gets VERY controversial. The big one a year or two ago was that operations for breast cancer were included, but not for breast reconstruction.

I have come to think that they are jerks so that they can justify being jerks better in the future. And that is acceptable to everyone, apparently.

So. And I am not exaggerating.... if I had a toothache starting right now, I could call my dentist, get in my car and drive 10 minutes. He could probably get me x rays, get me in a chair, and drill and fill and I could be back here typing in an hour or so.  Twenty? Twenty five bucks?  If I used no insurance at all, that would be 120 bucks tops.

I have had several people tell me that the prices in Japan, the NON INSURANCE prices, are far lower than the prices in the US, even with insurance.

Basically, if you are doing something for appearance you have to pay for it. If it is for oral health, preventive, etc. then it is covered. This is THE OTHER HALF of the social contract that Japan is good at. People will disagree with me up and down, but I think Japan takes good care of its people. But it is not a coddling welfare state. Tax revolts do not happen because the government is pretty tight with benefits. They debated for a decade whether or not to raise the national sales tax by 3%. So there is tension, not slack. Japan might be able to give people what they need because they can avoid giving everybody what they want.

We will see how it works out. Of course aging rural populations present challenges.
 
2021-01-24 10:40:11 PM  

2wolves: [Fark user image image 850x510]"Life... finds a way."


As the username checks out perfectly
 
2021-01-24 10:41:01 PM  

2fardownthread: Nidiot: 2fardownthread: A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars.

But really how do you get such cheap dental care?

We have great national healthcare but for some reason dental health is not part of the rest of your health, so unless you a old or on welfare and qualify for hospital dental (with a waiting list that runs into years,) it's pay full price for it or go without. Does your government subsidise yours?

It is part of the universal health care. I pay a ton of money and so... I subsidize it. That is what universal health care is.

Some procedures are not covered if they are not health related. Part of what Japan does is that they have all these "jerks on their death panels" who don't get swayed by emotional appeals from selfish people. Pre-natal care is paid for because some old guy does not get his Viagra paid for by the state. People can get basic health related dental care because homeopathy is not recognized as health care, etc. It gets VERY controversial. The big one a year or two ago was that operations for breast cancer were included, but not for breast reconstruction.

I have come to think that they are jerks so that they can justify being jerks better in the future. And that is acceptable to everyone, apparently.

So. And I am not exaggerating.... if I had a toothache starting right now, I could call my dentist, get in my car and drive 10 minutes. He could probably get me x rays, get me in a chair, and drill and fill and I could be back here typing in an hour or so.  Twenty? Twenty five bucks?  If I used no insurance at all, that would be 120 bucks tops.

I have had several people tell me that the prices in Japan, the NON INSURANCE prices, are far lower than the prices in the US, even with insurance.

Basically, if you are doing something for appearance you have to pay for it. If it is for oral health, preventive, etc. then it is covered. This is THE OTHER HALF of the social contract that Japan is good at. People will disagree with me up and ...


That sounds like how it should be, to my way of thinking. Dental health should be part of general/universal healthcare.

Though I would put breast reconstruction after cancer in there too. I would not breast enlargements for vanity or "modelling career". Also no free viagra, and no homeopathy should not be in there because it isn't anything but woo.

Somewhere historically we (stupidly) separated dental health from other medical health and now there is no way it will ever get back in.
 
2021-01-24 10:44:11 PM  

Nidiot: 2fardownthread: Nidiot: 2fardownthread: A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars.

But really how do you get such cheap dental care?

We have great national healthcare but for some reason dental health is not part of the rest of your health, so unless you a old or on welfare and qualify for hospital dental (with a waiting list that runs into years,) it's pay full price for it or go without. Does your government subsidise yours?

It is part of the universal health care. I pay a ton of money and so... I subsidize it. That is what universal health care is.

Some procedures are not covered if they are not health related. Part of what Japan does is that they have all these "jerks on their death panels" who don't get swayed by emotional appeals from selfish people. Pre-natal care is paid for because some old guy does not get his Viagra paid for by the state. People can get basic health related dental care because homeopathy is not recognized as health care, etc. It gets VERY controversial. The big one a year or two ago was that operations for breast cancer were included, but not for breast reconstruction.

I have come to think that they are jerks so that they can justify being jerks better in the future. And that is acceptable to everyone, apparently.

So. And I am not exaggerating.... if I had a toothache starting right now, I could call my dentist, get in my car and drive 10 minutes. He could probably get me x rays, get me in a chair, and drill and fill and I could be back here typing in an hour or so.  Twenty? Twenty five bucks?  If I used no insurance at all, that would be 120 bucks tops.

I have had several people tell me that the prices in Japan, the NON INSURANCE prices, are far lower than the prices in the US, even with insurance.

Basically, if you are doing something for appearance you have to pay for it. If it is for oral health, preventive, etc. then it is covered. This is THE OTHER HALF of the social contract that Japan is good at. People will disagree with me up and ...

That sounds like how it should be, to my way of thinking. Dental health should be part of general/universal healthcare.

Though I would put breast reconstruction after cancer in there too. I would not breast enlargements for vanity or "modelling career". Also no free viagra, and no homeopathy should not be in there because it isn't anything but woo.

Somewhere historically we (stupidly) separated dental health from other medical health and now there is no way it will ever get back in.


Vision stuff too?

Because here in the USA both dental and vision are separated
 
2021-01-24 10:45:27 PM  
WHT is truly infuriating is cataract surgery is covered by insurance usually and corrective is not even though it's the same goddamn thing
 
2021-01-24 10:55:03 PM  

Nidiot: 2fardownthread: A trip to the dentist might cost you 20 dollars.

But really how do you get such cheap dental care?

We have great national healthcare but for some reason dental health is not part of the rest of your health, so unless you a old or on welfare and qualify for hospital dental (with a waiting list that runs into years,) it's pay full price for it or go without. Does your government subsidise yours?


I will belabor the point a little and be caustic. People like Canadians seem to be perfectly fine BELIEVING that they are not getting ripped off when they try to help somebody. People like Americans (not all, but you know) are prone to believe that somebody is ripping them off and that people are telling them to do something.

Japan seems to be Canadian-ish, but acknowledging that once that American-istic suspicion and urge gets going, it is hard to stop. It is the "mission creep" of liberal democratic bureaucracy that it is trying to avoid, lest it lose its mandate. So the Japanese government is a jerk. Really liberal people hate it. It disappoints them again and again and again. They hate the Prime Minister. They hate NHK. They hate Japanese businessmen. Why? Because Japan is not perfect. It does not please everyone, even though it could.

Japan could give free dental care and breast enhancement to anyone who wants it. The problem? That isn't fair, is it? Forgiving all student loans is also not fair. It is a nice thing to do. But not fair.

The challenge of liberal democratic government is not just to give everyone what they want. It is trying to give everyone decent opportunities to get what they want. It is difficult to do. It will disappoint people. I think that Japan is trying to find a way to achieve social justice that requires neither blind faith in human nature nor force and coercion.

So when the rubber meets the road, the government says that society will pay for THIS CARE, but not THAT CARE. Sorry. But that is the way it is. Taxpayers, voters, and ultimately the patients themselves appreciate that because it means that the system is sustainable.
 
2021-01-24 11:56:11 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: Because here in the USA both dental and vision are separated


I am entitled to a free eye check every two years. My parents, as old age pensioners, are able to get a standard pair of glasses free, from a limited range of offered frames. I tend to pay for frames and insist on glass lenses, so pay for those myself. Glasses tend to be cheap or expensive as you like depending on what you want. My father could have had his cataracts removed free. (He opted not to have the surgery as he claims that the cataracts don't bother him, but that is his issue.) So I guess vision care is included. Not sure about things like Lasik as I've not been interested.
 
2021-01-25 12:01:21 AM  
Snowden moves to Russia, Greenwald still stands.
 
2021-01-25 1:50:27 AM  

SwiftFox: 2fardownthread: Well. That was not my mistake. I think you do not understand the problem. Go look up Kamoshika in Wikipedia or something and get back to me.

If you know what bears are, and that Japan still has a lot of bears, that might help too.

I knew what kamoshika were (my spell checker does not), those deer/goat/sheep things. If you still have bears then you still have potential wolf habitat.


Interesting read on the search for Japanese wolves:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20​1​91011-the-hunt-for-japans-ghost-wolves​
 
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