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2021-01-24 9:23:27 AM  
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2021-01-24 10:26:18 AM  
Fark your feelings.  The adults are in charge again.
 
2021-01-24 10:26:59 AM  
Principle?

It's the farking Census. A Constitution and two centuries of precedent until the GOP became EVEN MORE RACIST THAN SLAVE OWNERS
 
2021-01-24 10:29:35 AM  
That principle being "follow the law of the USA". Not simply using the law as a cudgel really throws the gop for a loop.
 
2021-01-24 10:43:11 AM  
It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.
 
2021-01-24 11:13:15 AM  

dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.


Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?
 
2021-01-24 11:29:31 AM  
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2021-01-24 11:30:34 AM  
Unauthorized immigrants?

I have never been more enraged.

The correct term is "noncitizens". Keep up, libs.
 
2021-01-24 11:50:27 AM  

dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.


It is also interesting that they aren't considering the 14th Amendment, Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
 
2021-01-24 11:53:18 AM  

Destructor: I have never been more enraged.


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2021-01-24 11:57:41 AM  
Remember when Big Bad John was silent for 4 whole years.

No one likes you John.
 
2021-01-24 12:06:58 PM  
There's that unity again, you bloviating sh*tstain.
 
2021-01-24 12:14:21 PM  
Basically, Republicans are a gang of twelve year olds who've never matured.  Anytime you see one pretending to be an adult, just remember this.   They are all stunted emotionally and intellectually.

Think "Lord of the Flies".
 
2021-01-24 12:16:34 PM  

PaulRB: Basically, Republicans are a gang of twelve year old  bullies who've never matured.  Anytime you see one pretending to be an adult, just remember this.   They are all stunted emotionally and intellectually.

Think "Lord of the Flies".


FTFY
 
2021-01-24 12:27:14 PM  
Impeach!
 
2021-01-24 12:28:52 PM  

GardenWeasel: Destructor: I have never been more enraged.

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Am I... Am I not doing "woke" right?
 
2021-01-24 12:57:44 PM  

GardenWeasel: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

It is also interesting that they aren't considering the 14th Amendment, Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.


Not sure where you're going with that one.

This portion of the 14th Amendment doesn't mean 'only male citizens count towards determining representation'. Determining representation still goes by Article I, Section 2, which only discusses 'persons', not 'citizens'.

This portion of the 14th Amendment just means 'If you fark with your citizens' right to vote, your representation goes down proportionately, where that proportion is calculated by male citizens.' The 'male citizens' bit is a historical oddity but would only matter if this clause were actually invoked.

So yes, it's legally if not morally consistent for Texas Republicans to say 'We're going to screw up the lives of immigrants as much as we can' while simultaneously saying 'When it comes to calculating our representatives, please count every one of those immigrants we're screwing.'

Of course, putting the citizenship question on the census may very well have hurt Texas's representation, since it would discourage immigrants in Texas from responding to the census. But the same would have happened in California, so it probably would have been pretty much a wash.
 
2021-01-24 1:07:02 PM  

KickahaOta: GardenWeasel: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

It is also interesting that they aren't considering the 14th Amendment, Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Not sure where you're going with that one.

This portion of the 14th Amendment doesn't mean 'only male citizens count towards determining representation'. Determining representation still goes by Article I, Section 2, which only discusses 'persons', not 'citizens'.

This portion of the 14th Amendment just means 'If you fark with your citizens' right to vote, your representation goes down proportionately, where that proportion is calculated by male citizens.' The 'male citizens' bit is a historical oddity but would only matter if this clause were actually invoked.

So yes, it's legally if not morally consistent for Texas Republicans to say 'We're going to screw up the lives of immigrants as much as we can' while simultaneously saying 'When it comes to calculating our representatives, please count every one of those immigrants we're screwing.'

Of course, putting the citizenship question on the census may very well have hurt Texas's representation, since it would discourag ...


I'm just saying if John wants to start playing games with reapportionment, it might be helpful to remember Texas sued to prevent votes from being counted in other states, and supported insurrection.
 
2021-01-24 1:17:44 PM  

Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?


That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.
 
2021-01-24 1:18:11 PM  
"Country over party"?  I understand the words, but they don't make sense in that order.
 
2021-01-24 1:20:30 PM  
Now encourage mail in voting so the new representees can be represented
 
2021-01-24 1:20:42 PM  

dildo tontine: Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?

That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.


The statehouse is controlled by Republicans. They know how to gerrymander better than anyone.
 
2021-01-24 1:20:52 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: "Country over party"?  I understand the words, but they don't make sense in that order.


Those are Yang words!!

/visible fear and confusion
 
2021-01-24 1:21:30 PM  

Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?


Depending where those undocumented immigrants are in TX it could hurt GOP districting. If a lot of them are in rural areas they're boosting the population of those areas for the purpose of drawing districts, but can't vote, so the districts can't effectively siphon off as much of the bluer cities into rural-voter dominated districts as the GOP would like.
 
2021-01-24 1:23:25 PM  

dildo tontine: Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?

That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.


The areas with the most population growth are the cities which tend to vote blue.
 
2021-01-24 1:24:04 PM  
Does Cornyn actually serve the people of Texas, who are now way more numerous than before, or is he just interested in funding his next election, six years from now.

A true politician representing any state would be happy that the state's population is fairly represented for budgeting and distribution back of tax dollars, plus resources are allocated for both the cities and the rural areas, all 254 counties and the five of the largest metro areas in the country, in the case of Texas.

Perhaps he fears that redistricting may knock out the gamed algorithms for gerrymandering and reflect a huge urban population that is much underrepresented. He may need to broaden his vocabulary from "radical socialist" and actually do more than stacking the federal judiciary.
 
2021-01-24 1:24:13 PM  

shpritz: dildo tontine: Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?

That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.

The statehouse is controlled by Republicans. They know how to gerrymander better than anyone.


Fix the voting rights act and that might change.
 
2021-01-24 1:25:24 PM  

Destructor: Unauthorized immigrants?

I have never been more enraged.

The correct term is "noncitizens". Keep up, libs.


Fark your feelings.
 
2021-01-24 1:26:15 PM  

puffy999: Principle?

It's the farking Census. A Constitution and two centuries of precedent until the GOP became EVEN MORE RACIST THAN SLAVE OWNERS


And dumber: the slave owners understood that if they wanted to remain in power it was easier to have a non-voting group count as population because it inflated their numbers with people they did not have to care about.
 
2021-01-24 1:28:14 PM  
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2021-01-24 1:28:16 PM  

Original: Original Tweet:

JohnCornyn: By repealing Trump's census order on unauthorized immigrants, Biden just gave Texas GOP an extra House seat, or two https://t.co/oxWvJcGDZb


And...? This wasn't some shrewd political calculation, it was following the farking law, you chode.
 
2021-01-24 1:30:43 PM  

PaulRB: Basically, Republicans are a gang of twelve year olds who've never matured.  Anytime you see one pretending to be an adult, just remember this.   They are all stunted emotionally and intellectually.

Think "Lord of the Flies".


Except the events of the Lord of the Flies has been disputed by actual studies. Republicans are worse than the worst case scenario of fictionalized 12 year olds.
 
2021-01-24 1:30:58 PM  

dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.


That all depends on where they're located.  Since population growth tends to be focused in urban areas (which tend to vote overwhelmingly Democrat) there's a good chance that those new seats will be filled by Dems.
 
2021-01-24 1:31:21 PM  

scanman61: The areas with the most population growth are the cities which tend to vote blue.


And in the electoral map drawn by Republicans, places like Houston and Dallas will look like the centre of a pie chart.

This is a major concern across the country, in fact. Despite Biden winning at the top of the ticket, there was only one statehouse flipped (and it went Red) and the Republicans gained seats in the vast majority of states where they already had power. The only place the Democrats gained seats were in a few traditionally blue states. That's a lot of congressional districts to be drawn by the Republicans, just like in 2010. Going to be another "lost decade" for the USA...

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2021-01-24 1:31:24 PM  

Destructor: GardenWeasel: Destructor: I have never been more enraged.

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Am I... Am I not doing "woke" right?


When the ellipsis is the spiciest part of the entree?
 
2021-01-24 1:32:14 PM  
Illinois is going to lose 1 or possibly 2 seats. A reminder to the GOP that Mr. Gerry Mander works on both sides of the street.
 
2021-01-24 1:33:27 PM  

dildo tontine: Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?

That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.


One thing that surprised out to me this election was Texas almost looking like a swing state with how close it was.  Freaking Texas.
 
2021-01-24 1:34:33 PM  
"You don't get it, do you? The Republicans are in awe of Biden. He repealed Trump's idiocy the only way he could. In the way envisioned by the Constitution.... The whole notion of an accurate census is that the institution matters more than the man. Biden's decision was even more self-sacrificing because he willingly gave power to his opposition."
 
2021-01-24 1:34:37 PM  
Abolish the electoral college.
 
2021-01-24 1:35:30 PM  

towatchoverme: Destructor: Unauthorized immigrants?

I have never been more enraged.

The correct term is "noncitizens". Keep up, libs.

Fark your feelings.


You guys are never going to let me into your clubhouse. :-)

thanksagainandagain: When the ellipsis is the spiciest part of the entree?


Gently teasing. And not spicy. Think: "Sexy".
 
2021-01-24 1:37:06 PM  

Destructor: You guys are never going to let me into your clubhouse. :-)


You may be a resident, just not a citizen.  :D
 
DVD
2021-01-24 1:39:18 PM  

NeverDrunk23: dildo tontine: Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?

That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.

One thing that surprised out to me this election was Texas almost looking like a swing state with how close it was.  Freaking Texas.


_________

The election ballots were counted in a secure way, but as we saw from the 12-hour lines to vote in urban areas, not all ballots were able to be cast.  Voter suppression still has ways of keeping things barely red.  Get a realistic scheme for voting, such as early voting and mail-in ballots nationally and we'd see more of a blue shift as the suppression tactics are removed.
 
2021-01-24 1:42:30 PM  
what a pig farker
 
2021-01-24 1:43:36 PM  

Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?


Yeah, I doubt those unauthorized immigrants are willingly living in deep-red districts. But ultimately, it'll depend on how the state gerrymanders the revised districts, so those new states could be filled by Republicans no matter where these UIs live.
 
2021-01-24 1:44:22 PM  

puffy999: Principle?

It's the farking Census. A Constitution and two centuries of precedent until the GOP became EVEN MORE RACIST THAN SLAVE OWNERS


Maybe slightly less racist than slave owners.  Slave owners wanted the slaves counted to get more Representatives, even though the slaves would in no way, shape, or form be allowed to vote.  The GOP wasn't going to count them at all, thus losing Representatives.  Since the total number of Representatives today is fixed, that is de facto allowing known Republican Representatives to be replaced with either possible Democratic Representatives or known Democratic Representatives, depending upon which states those Representatives get reapportioned to.  You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to be stupider than the inbred parasites of the antebellum South, but looks like the modern GOP did it.
 
2021-01-24 1:45:05 PM  
Imagine if putting the good of the democracy ahead of party and self-interest looked so alien to you? They are a party built for opposition, therefore they cannot grasp the logic of common good.
 
2021-01-24 1:45:46 PM  

DVD: but as we saw from the 12-hour lines to vote in urban areas, not all ballots were able to be cast.


If you are in line at the close of the polls, they have to let you vote, no matter how long the polling station has to stay open.
 
2021-01-24 1:47:12 PM  

shpritz: dildo tontine: Sin'sHero: dildo tontine: It is interesting he thinks both those seats will be filled by Republicans.

Unauthorized immigrants don't vote. Unless a Californian is considered unauthorized?

That is not my point at all.  Almost 47% of Texans voted for Biden. Texas also seems to be slowly trending blue.  I don't think it is crazy at all to guess that one of those seats could end up with a Democrat in it.

The statehouse is controlled by Republicans. They know how to gerrymander better than anyone.


Maybe someone from a blue state should sue Texas over their districting.
It will never fly, but when the GOP complains, just point to Red states suing PA and other states.
It would be funny
 
2021-01-24 1:50:17 PM  

Shaggy_C: scanman61: The areas with the most population growth are the cities which tend to vote blue.

And in the electoral map drawn by Republicans, places like Houston and Dallas will look like the centre of a pie chart.

This is a major concern across the country, in fact. Despite Biden winning at the top of the ticket, there was only one statehouse flipped (and it went Red) and the Republicans gained seats in the vast majority of states where they already had power. The only place the Democrats gained seats were in a few traditionally blue states. That's a lot of congressional districts to be drawn by the Republicans, just like in 2010. Going to be another "lost decade" for the USA...

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That's what happens when the Republicans cheat, steal, and gerrymander elections. That's also something that needs to be dealt with, now. The fact they're allowed to pass laws that restrict how and who can vote and limit the places and ways blue districts can vote is disgusting.
 
2021-01-24 1:51:03 PM  

DVD: Get a realistic scheme for voting, such as early voting and mail-in ballots nationally and we'd see more of a blue shift as the suppression tactics are removed.


Except the red states have already passed laws that made several ways of casting votes illegal.
 
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