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(CNN)   Alleged Chinese-Canadian drug kingpin arrested in Amsterdam, thought to oversee the largest methamphetamine cartel in the world. As in, up to $18 billion in annual revenue   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-01-24 10:56:20 AM  
This reminded me of a married couple around 20 years ago who rented a house, grew maryjane, and made $24mil. Tax free. Then they decided to do it a second time and got caught. Once you've made all the money you need in this lifetime, GTFO of the business. You won. You're still free to spend all that money.
 
2021-01-24 10:59:23 AM  
Put him in charge of Covid vaccine distribution.
 
2021-01-24 11:00:32 AM  
He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.
 
2021-01-24 11:01:14 AM  
A Chinese man with deeply held Conservative beliefs.
 
2021-01-24 11:04:25 AM  

4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.


Or an IPO.
 
2021-01-24 11:07:44 AM  
Police only had one sketch to go by

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2021-01-24 11:14:40 AM  

4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.


Unless he's keeping the appropriate Party beaks adequately damp.
 
2021-01-24 11:16:40 AM  

dionysusaur: 4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.

Unless he's keeping the appropriate Party beaks adequately damp.


There's a 99% chance he's party faithful and still in good standing.  The Chinese don't necessarily consider selling dope to the opposition to be anything other than smart business.
 
2021-01-24 11:17:51 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: dionysusaur: 4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.

Unless he's keeping the appropriate Party beaks adequately damp.

There's a 99% chance he's party faithful and still in good standing.  The Chinese don't necessarily consider selling dope to the opposition to be anything other than smart business.


They learned it well from their experiences with the English.
 
2021-01-24 11:19:23 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: dionysusaur: 4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.

Unless he's keeping the appropriate Party beaks adequately damp.

There's a 99% chance he's party faithful and still in good standing.  The Chinese don't necessarily consider selling dope to the opposition to be anything other than smart business.


To be fair, they got the short end of the stick during the Opium Wars.

Turnabout is fair play.
 
2021-01-24 11:27:48 AM  
Canadian national Tse Chi Lop ...

Lucky he got caught in Europe, otherwise the authorities might lop off his tse chi.
 
2021-01-24 11:35:41 AM  
I don't get meth at all. I mean, I'll do blow every now and then, but even that gets old by the next day when you feel like you've got mashed potatoes for brains.

I can't imagine the mindset of doing meth for three days straight.
 
2021-01-24 11:37:46 AM  

4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.


This is the literal definition if Canadian Citizen of Convenience.
The Liberals will fight tooth and nail to make sure this guy gets nothing but an apology for being arrested in Europe.
 
2021-01-24 11:42:54 AM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: This reminded me of a married couple around 20 years ago who rented a house, grew maryjane, and made $24mil. Tax free.


You don't make $24 million in drugs without moving heaven and earth to pay your taxes. Drug dealers are some of the most tax-law-abiding citizens on the planet.

Also, just because some other pedantic druggie will point it out if I don't, you'd need to rent a small city to grow enough marijuana to make $24 million in profit. The gross on an outdoor acre of the stuff is only about $1 million, and grower profits have actually gone up with legalization.

According to this RAND Corporation (LOL!) working paper, a 1,500-sq. ft. rental house could yield 546 pounds per year at a net profit of about $300/lb, or about $160K per year in ideal circumstances. Although the RAND Corporation isn't factoring in the likelihood of police inquiries over your $41,000 residential electrical bill, the nerds.
 
2021-01-24 11:43:10 AM  
I really what they could be up to with all of that money. Why aren't they going full super villain and making bases inside of skull-shaped mountains?
 
2021-01-24 11:44:02 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I really *wonder what they could be up to with all of that money. Why aren't they going full super villain and making bases inside of skull-shaped mountains?

 
2021-01-24 11:44:22 AM  

H31N0US: I can't imagine the mindset of doing meth for three days straight.


I know just the thing to cure that sad-sack, no-can-do attitude of yours!

/it's meth!
 
2021-01-24 11:44:35 AM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: This reminded me of a married couple around 20 years ago who rented a house, grew maryjane, and made $24mil. Tax free. Then they decided to do it a second time and got caught. Once you've made all the money you need in this lifetime, GTFO of the business. You won. You're still free to spend all that money.


The Madoff paradox. I still don't understand how the evidence against him was ignored for a decade.
 
2021-01-24 11:45:16 AM  
Allegedly Chinese-Canadian? Don't think that's a crime, subby.
 
rka
2021-01-24 11:55:04 AM  

semiotix: SloppyFrenchKisser: This reminded me of a married couple around 20 years ago who rented a house, grew maryjane, and made $24mil. Tax free.

You don't make $24 million in drugs without moving heaven and earth to pay your taxes. Drug dealers are some of the most tax-law-abiding citizens on the planet.

Also, just because some other pedantic druggie will point it out if I don't, you'd need to rent a small city to grow enough marijuana to make $24 million in profit. The gross on an outdoor acre of the stuff is only about $1 million, and grower profits have actually gone up with legalization.

According to this RAND Corporation (LOL!) working paper, a 1,500-sq. ft. rental house could yield 546 pounds per year at a net profit of about $300/lb, or about $160K per year in ideal circumstances. Although the RAND Corporation isn't factoring in the likelihood of police inquiries over your $41,000 residential electrical bill, the nerds.


I wonder if that's anywhere near the yield my neighbors were doing until they got busted. The LEO's walking down the street loaded for bear and then later walking out with plants made for a fun afternoon in this suburb. The dumpster that was there as someone ripped out all of the trellises and lights from the basement was filled multiple times.

But hey, they had solar.
 
2021-01-24 12:00:51 PM  
Was a visit to The Dutch Pancake House worth it?

Yes, yes it was.
 
rka
2021-01-24 12:06:38 PM  
I honestly thought most meth was made in ratty mobile homes in the Dakotas.
 
2021-01-24 12:10:19 PM  
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2021-01-24 12:34:20 PM  

semiotix: According to this RAND Corporation (LOL!) working paper, a 1,500-sq. ft. rental house could yield 546 pounds per year at a net profit of about $300/lb, or about $160K per year in ideal circumstances. Although the RAND Corporation isn't factoring in the likelihood of police inquiries over your $41,000 residential electrical bill, the nerds.


That's how my buddy's ex-next door neighbor got busted. He's a 5%'er who lived in a nice McMansion neighborhood. Comes home from work one day and there are cops and TV trucks all over the place. Finds out his neighbor had an MJ op in his basement. They busted him by comparing electric bills up and down the block and I guess his was a huge multiple of the rest of the street.

/CSB
 
2021-01-24 12:40:23 PM  
$18 billion? Jeebus, how many daily single doses is that? I looked at several websites about addiction costs and the price is all over the place, but $20 seems like a good average. So that works out to 900,000,000 doses (if the guy is getting full retail). So yearly, that would support 900M/365=2,465,753 people? Wow.
 
2021-01-24 1:38:11 PM  
Typical neoliberal antidrug histrionics resulting in the penalization of a successful businessman
 
2021-01-24 1:49:02 PM  
Well, he won't be able to start the Menergy spa now...
 
2021-01-24 2:01:37 PM  
First of all, I think drugs should be illegal AND anyone dealing or involved with hard drugs should be put to death.
That said, by the time you are dealing with ANYTHING over, what 100 million(?) a year, you better be a legit, tax-paying businessman with NO ties whatsoever to the business except what crosses over in Cayman Islands/Swiss bank accounts and only between shell corporations, not personal accounts.
By the time you are making a BILLION per year, the only human link to that world should be middleman who does not know you but knows amazing hitmen who are good enough to take out anyone down the ladder should the money coming in slow down.
By that time, you should have set up enough henchmen, each pretending to be the top guy of the organization.
Your accountants and lawyers should have enough China walls between them that they think that they are dealing with multiple organizations "buying" and "selling" that they never realize that you are both the buyer and the seller.

But, yeah, I'm against all of that stuff.

/just because I hate the game doesn't mean I don't know how to play it
 
2021-01-24 2:30:48 PM  

semiotix: Drug dealers are some of the most tax-law-abiding citizens on the planet.


citation please, because it seems likely that your statement is 100% wrong...
 
2021-01-24 2:43:29 PM  

proteus_b: semiotix: Drug dealers are some of the most tax-law-abiding citizens on the planet.

citation please, because it seems likely that your statement is 100% wrong...


I'll let my attorney, Mr. Saul Goodman, Esq., explain it.

Saul explains money laundering - subtitle
Youtube ez6xH-su2xI


TL;DW: money laundering is a complicated criminal conspiracy to pay taxes.
 
2021-01-24 2:50:16 PM  
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2021-01-24 3:02:53 PM  

H31N0US: I don't get meth at all. I mean, I'll do blow every now and then, but even that gets old by the next day when you feel like you've got mashed potatoes for brains.

I can't imagine the mindset of doing meth for three days straight.


From what I've seen, there *isn't* much recognizable mindset after the first day.
 
2021-01-24 3:08:40 PM  

Resident Muslim: First of all, I think drugs should be illegal AND anyone dealing or involved with hard drugs should be put to death.


That's a hard line to tread and the only reasons I'd agree with you are the human suffering re-enforced every day by dealers and the rapidly expanding human population.  Both need to be curbed.

But Nature (or God, if you prefer) has LOADED our biological systems with receptors for "go fast", "slow down" and "be happy" chemicals.  Any battle against exploiting that nature is uphill all the way.
 
2021-01-24 3:10:20 PM  

semiotix: SloppyFrenchKisser: This reminded me of a married couple around 20 years ago who rented a house, grew maryjane, and made $24mil. Tax free.

You don't make $24 million in drugs without moving heaven and earth to pay your taxes. Drug dealers are some of the most tax-law-abiding citizens on the planet.

Also, just because some other pedantic druggie will point it out if I don't, you'd need to rent a small city to grow enough marijuana to make $24 million in profit. The gross on an outdoor acre of the stuff is only about $1 million, and grower profits have actually gone up with legalization.

According to this RAND Corporation (LOL!) working paper, a 1,500-sq. ft. rental house could yield 546 pounds per year at a net profit of about $300/lb, or about $160K per year in ideal circumstances. Although the RAND Corporation isn't factoring in the likelihood of police inquiries over your $41,000 residential electrical bill, the nerds.


The guy I used to buy from quit the growing business because it was getting too difficult to make any money after paying expenses. This was a couple years before legalization.
 
2021-01-24 3:12:19 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: dionysusaur: 4seasons85!: He's very lucky he wasn't arrested in China. He'd be looking at a death sentence.

Unless he's keeping the appropriate Party beaks adequately damp.

There's a 99% chance he's party faithful and still in good standing.  The Chinese don't necessarily consider selling dope to the opposition to be anything other than smart business.


Right, you don't make that much meth without somebody noticing you buying a lot of raw material. $18 bil ain't being cooked up in kitchens.
 
2021-01-24 3:16:10 PM  
If you take his drugs, do want them again an hour later? Just saying.
 
2021-01-24 3:34:17 PM  

daffy: If you take his drugs, do want them again an hour later? Just saying.


Yes! That's his business model.
 
2021-01-24 5:22:11 PM  

Resident Muslim: or involved with hard drugs should be put to death.


Yeah you sound like a typical religious nut. How is that mass murdering God of yours doing?
 
2021-01-24 5:41:15 PM  

johnphantom: Resident Muslim: or involved with hard drugs should be put to death.

Yeah you sound like a typical religious nut. How is that mass murdering God of yours doing?


I've determined that He likes human suffering even more than murder.

Supposedly He has the power to make everything better, but instead he lets dealers inflict and perpetuate suffering.  And then He lets us procreate way faster than our ability to put a lid on suffering.  He even promotes war from his followers, leading to death, maiming, suffering and more children born into same.

So on those scores, He's doing really damned well.
 
2021-01-24 7:59:22 PM  
Purdue laughs and calls him an amateur.
 
2021-01-24 10:47:04 PM  
Its weird that his nationality is alleged. You would think that would be documented somewhere.

/phrasing.
 
2021-01-24 11:39:46 PM  

SansNeural: Resident Muslim: First of all, I think drugs should be illegal AND anyone dealing or involved with hard drugs should be put to death.

That's a hard line to tread and the only reasons I'd agree with you are the human suffering re-enforced every day by dealers and the rapidly expanding human population.  Both need to be curbed.

But Nature (or God, if you prefer) has LOADED our biological systems with receptors for "go fast", "slow down" and "be happy" chemicals.  Any battle against exploiting that nature is uphill all the way.


More uphill than "Yes, s/he is amazingly attractive,  but s/he isn't yours. Must not touch"?
Or "Yes, that looks amazing maybe even very useful fir you right now, but it isn't yours. Must not take"?

/pls note: I'm not arguing how much drugs fire up the brain receptors and people chase that dragon. I'm just saying that we have other neural (;)) receptors that get fired by nature
//if God wanted us to be angels, he would have made us angels
///God loves those who cleanse a lot and repent a lot. That message in itself, from his words in the Quran, indicate that we weren't meant to be perfect but to always seek him, even and especially if we stray. Oh, and there is no guarantee that a person's repentance will be accepted or that they automatically will avoid hell in case anyone is thinking I'll sin and repent later.
 
2021-01-25 12:17:33 AM  

roc6783: SloppyFrenchKisser: This reminded me of a married couple around 20 years ago who rented a house, grew maryjane, and made $24mil. Tax free. Then they decided to do it a second time and got caught. Once you've made all the money you need in this lifetime, GTFO of the business. You won. You're still free to spend all that money.

The Madoff paradox. I still don't understand how the evidence against him was ignored for a decade.


Oh, it's easy. Just fire 10% of your investigators each year. Pretty soon, you only have a dozen agents to oversee the entire East Coast, so they have to spend their time going after the BIG players.
 
2021-01-25 12:22:17 AM  

Harlee: $18 billion? Jeebus, how many daily single doses is that? I looked at several websites about addiction costs and the price is all over the place, but $20 seems like a good average. So that works out to 900,000,000 doses (if the guy is getting full retail). So yearly, that would support 900M/365=2,465,753 people? Wow.


Ya know, 2 million daily users spread over all of Europe and GB (and probably a good chunk of the Med) isn't that large when compared to the total population.

If it wasn't so destructive to the user, that number would be far higher.
 
2021-01-25 6:20:24 AM  

semiotix: proteus_b: semiotix: Drug dealers are some of the most tax-law-abiding citizens on the planet.

citation please, because it seems likely that your statement is 100% wrong...

I'll let my attorney, Mr. Saul Goodman, Esq., explain it.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/ez6xH-su​2xI]

TL;DW: money laundering is a complicated criminal conspiracy to pay taxes.


It's a criminal conspiracy to hide profits, not to pay taxes. Is it possible that some of our favorite, beloved money-laundering ventures might actually lie about their expenses, and NOT pay taxes on these illicit gains?
 
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