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2021-01-23 8:00:06 PM  
You didn't really think he'd do anything correctly, did you?


// this is why grammar and mechanics matter
 
2021-01-23 8:33:22 PM  
He would have been a million times more dangerous if he just figured out how to STFU and leave the dirty work to competent lawyers and advisers.

We dodged a huge bullet this time.
 
2021-01-23 8:51:23 PM  

markie_farkie: He would have been a million times more dangerous if he just figured out how to STFU and leave the dirty work to competent lawyers and advisers.

We dodged a huge bullet this time.


⬆⬆⬆
 
2021-01-23 9:04:03 PM  
Prosecutors need to make sure they don't run afoul of the statue of limitations


Statue of Limitations
Youtube XrKb2TTy2ik
 
2021-01-23 9:15:09 PM  
This was entirely predictable.

This is why I was saying he wouldn't pardon the insurrectionists. To do it properly you'd have to do something like, "I Donnie J. Trump, hereby pardon everyone who set foot in the Capitol building for all crimes they may have committed that day as well as any crimes they may have committed in preparation for invading the capitol & any crimes they may have subsequently committed between then & Jan 20 2021 that relate to those earlier crimes that this document pardons."

There are several problems with this formulation: (1) Finding a lawyer willing to sign her name to such a breathtakingly large pardon (2) Finding a lawyer technically proficient enough to write it so that there are no loopholes & (3) Finding a lawyer capable of (1) & (2) on a 14 day schedule.
 
2021-01-23 9:16:45 PM  

markie_farkie: He would have been a million times more dangerous if he just figured out how to STFU and leave the dirty work to competent lawyers and advisers.

We dodged a huge bullet this time.


If he had just shut up & let competent people run the pandemic response, not only would there be 300,000(ish) more people alive right now but he'd be starting his 2nd term.

So, apart from the criminal loss of life, yeah we dodged a big bullet there
 
2021-01-23 11:11:35 PM  
Donnie and attorneys not word things good for judge talking? Unpossible? Sloppy legal language in a Trump document, for true?

Libs, you are just crazy-making bumfuffle with your mind-word-thinkerating-pictures.
 
2021-01-24 12:02:53 AM  

hubiestubert: Donnie and attorneys not word things good for judge talking? Unpossible? Sloppy legal language in a Trump document, for true?

Libs, you are just crazy-making bumfuffle with your mind-word-thinkerating-pictures.


CHESS SKATES, CRIBS!!!
 
2021-01-24 12:09:55 AM  
Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!
 
2021-01-24 12:11:53 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!


You...you're going to eat something that has a name?
 
2021-01-24 12:22:12 AM  
Death.
Taxes.
Trump** f#cking something up.
 
2021-01-24 12:52:37 AM  
Oh no.

A dumbass is a dumbass?

Who knew?
 
2021-01-24 12:54:06 AM  
Low Rent Batman villain remains at large but participated in organizing the insurrection.

/you know who I'm talking about.
 
2021-01-24 12:55:51 AM  

Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?


Most food is named something.
 
2021-01-24 12:56:06 AM  
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/get in losers, we're smart and there's no way this can go wrong
 
2021-01-24 1:00:13 AM  
Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.
 
2021-01-24 1:03:05 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.


Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott
 
2021-01-24 1:04:18 AM  
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2021-01-24 1:04:23 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.


Step 1: Convince everybody you're a successful celebrity billionaire for thirty years.
 
2021-01-24 1:04:49 AM  

MurphyMurphy: [img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net image 850x636]

/get in losers, we're smart and there's no way this can go wrong


Wtf is she wearing?
A Rorschach test?
 
2021-01-24 1:06:50 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?

Most food is named something.


I named my plate of food Gerald. Does that count?
 
2021-01-24 1:07:27 AM  

theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott


Rubio? RINO.
Cruz? Too subservient, even Trumpers have no respect for a guy who won't defend his wife.
DeSantis? Maybe. If that scientist chick ends up Epsteined, he'll have major GOP cred for sure.
Scott? Bald. Trumpers won't follow something without plumage.
 
2021-01-24 1:07:30 AM  
Amusingly, his pardon for Kodak Black was only for one specific crime (making a false statement on a federal form) that he was currently in prison for, and NOT for the other felony that he has been convicted of (firearms possession), that is still awaiting sentencing. He also wasn't pardoned for the pending charges in another case (criminal sexual assault).
 
2021-01-24 1:07:42 AM  

theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott


Cheney Hogan 2024!
 
2021-01-24 1:09:23 AM  

Purple_Urkle: theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott

Cheney Hogan 2024!


Cheney won't even be re-elected. She's done in the GOP.
 
2021-01-24 1:10:39 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Purple_Urkle: theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott

Cheney Hogan 2024!

Cheney won't even be re-elected. She's done in the GOP.


Not if all the insurrectionists are gotten rid of.
 
2021-01-24 1:12:12 AM  
andrewagill:

You made the mistake of conflation. It's simple to pardon the highly visible and leave the minor stuff to the prosecutors. A blanket pardon that works for all conceivable crimes on that day at the Capitol.

He doesn't care about every single person. He was never going to pardon anyone for showing up. He could do trespass, sedition, treason, murder, forced entry, felony murder, theft, and maybe a few others and get the most egregious.

Your logic is flawed. Rethink.
 
2021-01-24 1:13:08 AM  

Purple_Urkle: thanksagainandagain: Purple_Urkle: theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott

Cheney Hogan 2024!

Cheney won't even be re-elected. She's done in the GOP.

Not if all the insurrectionists are gotten rid of.


That's not looking likely.
 
2021-01-24 1:15:33 AM  

Smoking GNU: Gyrfalcon: Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?

Most food is named something.

I named my plate of food Gerald. Does that count?


Only if you named it after your aging mouse who doesn't have a house.
 
2021-01-24 1:16:59 AM  
Not only world's ugliest dog, but world's stupidest.
 
2021-01-24 1:19:55 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Smoking GNU: Gyrfalcon: Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?

Most food is named something.

I named my plate of food Gerald. Does that count?

Only if you named it after your aging mouse who doesn't have a house.


He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse
 
2021-01-24 1:24:36 AM  
The GOP keeps bending over for trump. WTH?? They are either afraid of kompromat, or afraid of redcap domestic terrorists.
 
2021-01-24 1:25:32 AM  
because not a single decent lawyer was willing to do his dirty work.  Probably had to make them himself or force a staffer to do it under the threat of being fired
 
2021-01-24 1:26:27 AM  

freetomato: The GOP keeps bending over for trump. WTH?? They are either afraid of kompromat, or afraid of redcap domestic terrorists.


Los dos?
 
2021-01-24 1:27:24 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Smoking GNU: Gyrfalcon: Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?

Most food is named something.

I named my plate of food Gerald. Does that count?

Only if you named it after your aging mouse who doesn't have a house.


My aging wireless mouse doesn't register clicks about 50% of the time and when i'm finally able to afford a replacement it'll most certainly be homeless, buti don't see what that has to do with delicious murder.
 
2021-01-24 1:30:06 AM  

freetomato: The GOP keeps bending over for trump. WTH?? They are either afraid of kompromat, or afraid of redcap domestic terrorists.


The first one got trumpy elected, now the second one will keep these cowards in line. Jan 6th was aimed as much, if not moresoz at them than the Dems so as to terrorize them into line then and for the forseeable future.
 
2021-01-24 1:30:30 AM  

delathi: Amusingly, his pardon for Kodak Black was only for one specific crime (making a false statement on a federal form) that he was currently in prison for, and NOT for the other felony that he has been convicted of (firearms possession), that is still awaiting sentencing. He also wasn't pardoned for the pending charges in another case (criminal sexual assault).


Do we know that? I've only seen the press release, not the actual text of the pardon.

And, I assume Trump can't have pardoned him on state rape charges, but do we know there wasn't some bulls but Epstein style deal where they already gave him immunity for that in exchange for a guilty plea on federal charges?
 
2021-01-24 1:37:05 AM  

freetomato: The GOP keeps bending over for trump. WTH?? They are either afraid of kompromat, or afraid of redcap domestic terrorists.


Daily reminder:  Both the DNC and RNC server infrastructures were compromised before the 2016 election.

We still don't know what was acquired from the RNC.

One of many, many, MANY things I hope AG Garland pursues, and President Biden makes entirely public, no matter how painful and to whom.
 
2021-01-24 1:42:11 AM  

theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott


That is a list of some of the worst people in the world.
 
2021-01-24 1:43:18 AM  

andrewagill: This was entirely predictable.

This is why I was saying he wouldn't pardon the insurrectionists. To do it properly you'd have to do something like, "I Donnie J. Trump, hereby pardon everyone who set foot in the Capitol building for all crimes they may have committed that day as well as any crimes they may have committed in preparation for invading the capitol & any crimes they may have subsequently committed between then & Jan 20 2021 that relate to those earlier crimes that this document pardons."

There are several problems with this formulation: (1) Finding a lawyer willing to sign her name to such a breathtakingly large pardon (2) Finding a lawyer technically proficient enough to write it so that there are no loopholes & (3) Finding a lawyer capable of (1) & (2) on a 14 day schedule.


Also one that will work, on spec, for trump.
 
2021-01-24 1:43:31 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.


I don't think so, I think Trump is a unique case. He's a genuinely remorseless psychopath and is willing to say anything at any time. Plus, there's just something about his personality. I know it sounds weird to say that because he's such a buffoon, but to those under his spell he's a demigod. I don't think Hawley (or Cruz or anyone I can think of) can hold that kind of sway. I think if someone ever does, they'll come out of nowhere.
 
2021-01-24 1:44:15 AM  

Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?


Animals may very well have names they give themselves....
 
2021-01-24 1:44:38 AM  

Badafuco: theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott

That is a list of some of the worst people in the world.


Don't forget that they're trying to make Tucker Carlson a thing, making the list nearly complete!
 
2021-01-24 1:46:12 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?

Most food is named something.


Not American TURKEYS!!!
 
2021-01-24 1:46:54 AM  

Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?


I grew up on a dairy farm, son.
 
2021-01-24 1:48:13 AM  

kkinnison: Probably had to make them himself


LOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
2021-01-24 1:49:48 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Cafe Threads: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Yummy!  Turkey dinner with all the trimmings!

You...you're going to eat something that has a name?

I grew up on a dairy farm, son.


Are you my housemate?  O.o

I thought you were the original Luddite, George!
 
2021-01-24 1:54:40 AM  

cretinbob: You didn't really think he'd do anything correctly, did you?


// this is why grammar and mechanics matter


I wonder why so many people don't understand what's wrong with this sentence?
 
2021-01-24 2:00:52 AM  

fnordfocus: delathi: Amusingly, his pardon for Kodak Black was only for one specific crime (making a false statement on a federal form) that he was currently in prison for, and NOT for the other felony that he has been convicted of (firearms possession), that is still awaiting sentencing. He also wasn't pardoned for the pending charges in another case (criminal sexual assault).

Do we know that? I've only seen the press release, not the actual text of the pardon.

And, I assume Trump can't have pardoned him on state rape charges, but do we know there wasn't some bulls but Epstein style deal where they already gave him immunity for that in exchange for a guilty plea on federal charges?


Oooh, I was wrong.

He wasn't even pardoned. He just had the sentence for the making a false statement commuted. The other charges and sentences are still pending.
 
2021-01-24 2:09:44 AM  

theflatline: thanksagainandagain: Hawley is taking notes. That twerp wants to be Trump with a brain, and the GOP will be kowtowing to him within the next year.

Maybe.

There is gonna be a lot of infighting for the big chair.

Rubio
Hawley
Cruz
DeSantis
Scott


None of whome will draw the primary votes that the My Pillow guy gets.
 
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