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(AP News)   When environmentalists divide by zero: Should we oppose an open pit lithium mine because it's bad for the environment or support it because it's good for the environment?   (apnews.com) divider line
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2021-01-23 8:58:57 PM  
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Better to keep buying lithium from China since that is mined outside the environment.
 
2021-01-23 8:51:26 PM  
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Flurching: Anyone who isn't permanently conflicted isn't thinking. 7+billion people on one planet.


We're working on that problem here in the USA.
 
2021-01-24 5:05:19 PM  
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2021-01-24 4:25:28 AM  
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JasonOfOrillia: All actions have positive and negative effects.  Measure them as reasonably as you can and make a choice.


Unfortunately, that kind of analysis and self-awareness is lacking amongst the general public. Hell, it's lacking even amongst those who claim to be concerned about the environment.

CSB: I know a guy who claims to be very concerned about energy consumption and his carbon footprint, but he wants a hydrogen vehicle to stiggit to "tech bros." He apparently even went and test drove a Toyota Mirai. Having done some research on the subject, I gently reminded him that a fuel cell vehicle has a manufacturing carbon footprint on par with a 60kWh BEV, but will go on to use nearly three times as much energy per mile for the rest of its useful life. I also explained that hydrogen overwhelmingly comes from natural gas these days. It's better than gasoline, but not by a whole lot. He said he didn't care because "EVs are conspicuous consumption vehicles marketed to man-children."

We should definitely examine our choices...
 
2021-01-23 7:58:55 PM  
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