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2021-01-23 4:26:54 AM  
UPDATED on 1/22/2021 at 8:52 PM PT]
We messed up today and you were right to let us know. Connecting and playing with friends is a vital part of gaming and we failed to meet the expectations of players who count on it every day. As a result, we have decided not to change Xbox Live Gold pricing.
We're turning this moment into an opportunity to bring Xbox Live more in line with how we see the player at the center of their experience. For free-to-play games, you will no longer need an Xbox Live Gold membership to play those games on Xbox. We are working hard to deliver this change as soon as possible in the coming months.
If you are an Xbox Live Gold member already, you stay at your current price for renewal. New and existing members can continue to enjoy Xbox Live Gold for the same prices they pay today. In the US, $9.99 for 1-month, $24.99 for 3-months, $39.99 for 6-months and $59.99 for retail 12-months.
Thank you.



Good!
If it happens again, I'll cut one of your legs off!
Then you'll be a Y box. As in Y did I buy this turd basket of Dumb*ckery?
 
2021-01-23 6:00:35 AM  
Xbox Louse, submitter
 
2021-01-23 7:17:38 AM  
Sunny here, yeah that was quite the typo from me there, I blame auto carrot.

Thankfully it's been fixed...
 
2021-01-23 7:39:37 AM  
I have Xbox live, and used to play a lot of call of duty so I definitely got my moneys worth, but the free games that they give us each month are getting worse and worse, most are merely phone apps.

Every once in a while they would throw in a big-name game like assassin's creed or tomb raider, but it's few and far between
 
2021-01-23 7:50:21 AM  

buntz: I have Xbox live, and used to play a lot of call of duty so I definitely got my moneys worth, but the free games that they give us each month are getting worse and worse, most are merely phone apps.

Every once in a while they would throw in a big-name game like assassin's creed or tomb raider, but it's few and far between


Well yes. If you want the top notch free games, they're pushing you to Ultimate.

And Ultimate has an excellent selection of games
 
2021-01-23 7:59:30 AM  

Gubbo: And Ultimate has an excellent selection of games


Oh, I know.  I'm just complaining because they really want me to get game pass, but I honestly don't play that many games.
I liked the free games each month because I can only play one or two games at a time, so typically I would have a month to play a game I enjoyed until the next free one came along.

I compare it like this. Imagine if you had to pay to be a member of your local library. All the books are free, but you have to pay a monthly fee to read them. I can only read so many books at one time, I only have so much time in a day to actually read, so really I'm paying for an endless supply of books I will never read.  And if I stop paying my membership, they come and take my library books back.

So I liked games with gold because it's kind of like a book of the month club.  But in the past year or so instead of giving me best sellers, they are giving me dollar store romance novels
 
2021-01-23 10:00:52 AM  
Smart move Xbo. They remember the whole debacle for a few years ago that cost them a whole console generation and pivoted quickly to customer demand.
 
2021-01-23 10:33:24 AM  
I often forget that the peasants have to pay for an extra service to enjoy multiplayer.
 
2021-01-23 11:08:20 AM  

Gubbo: buntz: I have Xbox live, and used to play a lot of call of duty so I definitely got my moneys worth, but the free games that they give us each month are getting worse and worse, most are merely phone apps.

Every once in a while they would throw in a big-name game like assassin's creed or tomb raider, but it's few and far between

Well yes. If you want the top notch free games, they're pushing you to Ultimate.

And Ultimate has an excellent selection of games


I think the Xbox Gold price increase was designed to incrementally put it in a position where it cost the same, or almost the same, as Ultimate so that Microsoft could eventually just discard Gold and fold everyone into Ultimate without too much bellyaching.

They got their peepee slapped, though, so it's looking to me like the new strategy is just to gradually remove features from Gold, while keeping the price the same, until the service just withers away and people are left with Ultimate or nothing.

Lately, I have pretty much exclusively been playing Gamepass games on the Xbox, so I'm definitely getting my money's worth out of Ultimate.
 
2021-01-23 11:22:32 AM  

Konlii: Gubbo: buntz: I have Xbox live, and used to play a lot of call of duty so I definitely got my moneys worth, but the free games that they give us each month are getting worse and worse, most are merely phone apps.

Every once in a while they would throw in a big-name game like assassin's creed or tomb raider, but it's few and far between

Well yes. If you want the top notch free games, they're pushing you to Ultimate.

And Ultimate has an excellent selection of games

I think the Xbox Gold price increase was designed to incrementally put it in a position where it cost the same, or almost the same, as Ultimate so that Microsoft could eventually just discard Gold and fold everyone into Ultimate without too much bellyaching.

They got their peepee slapped, though, so it's looking to me like the new strategy is just to gradually remove features from Gold, while keeping the price the same, until the service just withers away and people are left with Ultimate or nothing.

Lately, I have pretty much exclusively been playing Gamepass games on the Xbox, so I'm definitely getting my money's worth out of Ultimate.


I said in the other thread that Ultimate is perfect for me. I rarely finish a game, and almost never replay a game. So having access to lots of games to try out is wonderful for me.

What Remains of Edith Finch was downloaded yesterday
 
2021-01-23 11:26:45 AM  

Gubbo: I said in the other thread that Ultimate is perfect for me. I rarely finish a game, and almost never replay a game. So having access to lots of games to try out is wonderful for me.


And as I've said in previous threads, I mostly play Call of Duty (but I've moved on to Battlefront 2) and almost nothing else.  Not a lot of games interest me.  I got Squadrons for Christmas.  Haven't opened it.
Got Resident Evil 3 LAST year and played one level and never got around to playing it again (love resident evil games, just never "in the mood" because I'd rather run around a multiplayer map and shoot things)

So Ultimate is NOT for me and I don't want to be eventually forced into it just for "multiplayer"
 
2021-01-23 11:33:21 AM  

buntz: Gubbo: I said in the other thread that Ultimate is perfect for me. I rarely finish a game, and almost never replay a game. So having access to lots of games to try out is wonderful for me.

And as I've said in previous threads, I mostly play Call of Duty (but I've moved on to Battlefront 2) and almost nothing else.  Not a lot of games interest me.  I got Squadrons for Christmas.  Haven't opened it.
Got Resident Evil 3 LAST year and played one level and never got around to playing it again (love resident evil games, just never "in the mood" because I'd rather run around a multiplayer map and shoot things)

So Ultimate is NOT for me and I don't want to be eventually forced into it just for "multiplayer"


Microsoft, and me, say you're doing it wrong :)
 
2021-01-23 11:45:52 AM  

Gubbo: Microsoft, and me, say you're doing it wrong :)


Well like I said I liked the games with gold.  I liked to maybe try a game or two a month with Games with Gold but now they're not giving me anything worth playing.

I played "Little Nightmares" they gave us this month.
It was cute.
It was basically an app.
I would have been pissed if I paid $20 or whatever the full price is.  I beat it in about 2 hours.

But I simply don't like/am not interested in enough games to pay for Ultimate
 
2021-01-23 11:49:25 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Smart move Xbo. They remember the whole debacle for a few years ago that cost them a whole console generation and pivoted quickly to customer demand.


Why do they keep coming back to the idea that stupid shiat like this'll turn out good for them, though?
 
2021-01-23 12:10:37 PM  

Gubbo: What Remains of Edith Finch was downloaded yesterday


You're in for a treat, if you like immersion and story. You can play the whole thing in one or two sittings. Brilliant methods of making you, the player, complicit in the dark things you learn about. Great experience.
 
2021-01-23 12:43:06 PM  

madgonad: I often forget that the peasants have to pay for an extra service to enjoy multiplayer.


Switched to PC years ago. I not going back.
 
2021-01-23 12:50:13 PM  

madgonad: I often forget that the peasants have to pay for an extra service to enjoy multiplayer.


As I pointed out in yesterday's thread, even with inflation technology prices still drop over time usually. In the early days of online gaming, the costs were by the minute. When Xbox Live first debuted in 2002, a unified service with a shared user account and everyone having a mic was completely new. Even today many popular online PC games don't have built in voice chat, requiring a third party client and having a group of friends at hand to log into it to have proper communication.

And while inflation is a thing, technology costs do drop over time despite it. An entry level smartphone 20 years ago used to cost $1,000, but now can be had for $100. As well, though every Live games does support voice chat, because headsets are no longer automatically bundled with subscriptions means many players forego the feature, especially in games where its purpose is not as necessary to win.

Factoring all that in (plus all the revenue from microtransactions and advertising on the service), $30 is the most it should cost for a year's worth of service.
 
2021-01-23 1:05:35 PM  

shoegaze99: Gubbo: What Remains of Edith Finch was downloaded yesterday

You're in for a treat, if you like immersion and story. You can play the whole thing in one or two sittings. Brilliant methods of making you, the player, complicit in the dark things you learn about. Great experience.


I agree. I decided to devote an entire evening to play through the full game in one go. It was an incredible experience, which is why I recommend everyone play through it in one or two sittings at most.
 
2021-01-23 10:28:11 PM  

Electrify: As I pointed out in yesterday's thread, even with inflation technology prices still drop over time usually.


How much have you paid for home Internet in the last two decades? I've gone from $20/mo for 5-10 mb/s to $60 for 200.
 
2021-01-23 11:26:35 PM  

Konlii: Gubbo: buntz: I have Xbox live, and used to play a lot of call of duty so I definitely got my moneys worth, but the free games that they give us each month are getting worse and worse, most are merely phone apps.

Every once in a while they would throw in a big-name game like assassin's creed or tomb raider, but it's few and far between

Well yes. If you want the top notch free games, they're pushing you to Ultimate.

And Ultimate has an excellent selection of games

I think the Xbox Gold price increase was designed to incrementally put it in a position where it cost the same, or almost the same, as Ultimate so that Microsoft could eventually just discard Gold and fold everyone into Ultimate without too much bellyaching.

They got their peepee slapped, though, so it's looking to me like the new strategy is just to gradually remove features from Gold, while keeping the price the same, until the service just withers away and people are left with Ultimate or nothing.

Lately, I have pretty much exclusively been playing Gamepass games on the Xbox, so I'm definitely getting my money's worth out of Ultimate.


I'm still slightly pissed at Microsoft over Gamepass.  The version for PC was $5/month, which includes multiplayer because Microsoft isn't dumb enough to try to charge PC gamers for multiplayer.  I saw an article at one point where Microsoft said outright they had no plans to raise the price for Gamepass in the near future.  Two weeks after that article, they doubled it to $10/month.  It's still a good deal at the price, but if you're gonna raise prices, don't lie about the fact you're gonna raise prices right before you raise the farking prices.
 
2021-01-24 1:13:46 PM  
I lined up 3 years of Game Pass Ultimate for about $5 a month; I'm not sure how I feel about subscription-based gaming in the long run, but doing this for my wife and I is giving us a pretty decent library of things to play coop over the next few years

https://www.reddit.com/r/xbox/comment​s​/k6a4tr/a_comprehensive_guide_on_how_t​o_get_game_pass/
 
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