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(ABC 33/40 Birmingham)   Alabama governor Kay Ivey extends mask mandate through March 5th, even though all four neighboring states have never even had a mandate. Hero tag is a pretty low bar sometimes, but we'll go with it for bucking the politics   (abc3340.com) divider line
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2021-01-22 12:26:14 PM  
In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru
 
2021-01-22 1:12:21 PM  
A couple of weeks ago. I was at the local ABC store in Pelham, AL. And this black guy...(A really cute guy BTW, just imagine a black Paul Rudd..just all happy and fun sized) comes in without a mask..and the clerk is "NOPE NOPE NOPE...NO MASK NO SERVICE, Says so right on the door" I say I have some extras...and give him a couple from my car.
He ends up buying my rum for me. He was in a rush as part of a wedding party groomsman thing.
 
2021-01-22 1:43:12 PM  
Buck the politics!
 
2021-01-22 1:43:34 PM  

optikeye: A couple of weeks ago. I was at the local ABC store in Pelham, AL. And this black guy...(A really cute guy BTW, just imagine a black Paul Rudd..just all happy and fun sized) comes in without a mask..and the clerk is "NOPE NOPE NOPE...NO MASK NO SERVICE, Says so right on the door" I say I have some extras...and give him a couple from my car.
He ends up buying my rum for me. He was in a rush as part of a wedding party groomsman thing.


So...didn't get laid?
 
2021-01-22 1:45:36 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru


And yet... Alabama has 128 deaths per 100k people and Florida has 114 deaths per 100k people.  Must not be locked down hard enough up there in Alabama.  Might be curfew time.
 
XSV
2021-01-22 1:45:48 PM  

optikeye: A couple of weeks ago. I was at the local ABC store in Pelham, AL. And this black guy...(A really cute guy BTW, just imagine a black Paul Rudd..just all happy and fun sized) comes in without a mask..and the clerk is "NOPE NOPE NOPE...NO MASK NO SERVICE, Says so right on the door" I say I have some extras...and give him a couple from my car.
He ends up buying my rum for me. He was in a rush as part of a wedding party groomsman thing.


Pelham? just passing through or are you from the area?

/lived in Pelham up until about 2 years ago.
 
2021-01-22 1:49:27 PM  

FLMountainMan: NikolaiFarkoff: In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru

And yet... Alabama has 128 deaths per 100k people and Florida has 114 deaths per 100k people.  Must not be locked down hard enough up there in Alabama.  Might be curfew time.


Funny, you believe the numbers Florida reports.

They can't even keep people from out-of-state from getting vaccinated.
 
2021-01-22 1:51:56 PM  

Mrtraveler01: FLMountainMan: NikolaiFarkoff: In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru

And yet... Alabama has 128 deaths per 100k people and Florida has 114 deaths per 100k people.  Must not be locked down hard enough up there in Alabama.  Might be curfew time.

Funny, you believe the numbers Florida reports.

They can't even keep people from out-of-state from getting vaccinated.


Well, given that they have around 2,000 deaths in their CDC stats that don't have a positive COVID test associated with them, they probably are a little high.
 
2021-01-22 1:52:39 PM  
Governor Meemaw doesn't want her grandbabies gettin' sick, so she's tellin' 'em to mask up! (And don't make me tell you again!)
 
2021-01-22 1:52:50 PM  

FLMountainMan: NikolaiFarkoff: In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru

And yet... Alabama has 128 deaths per 100k people and Florida has 114 deaths per 100k people.  Must not be locked down hard enough up there in Alabama.  Might be curfew time.


Florida numbers are completely worthless. Congrats on ending that coma.
 
2021-01-22 1:54:37 PM  
I am in Facebook groups in both Fairhope and Huntsville and the crazy stupids are out in full force today over 'MeeMaw'
 
2021-01-22 1:55:07 PM  
I drove through Alabama a few weeks ago, and I'm going to go on record as saying that it was better than Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia.
 
2021-01-22 1:55:38 PM  
Mississippi put in a state-wide mandate back in, what, August of last year? Then it lapsed and came back and now we're at 95% of counties with a mandate.

Don't break your arm giving yourself a reacharound, subby.
 
2021-01-22 1:57:59 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: FLMountainMan: NikolaiFarkoff: In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru

And yet... Alabama has 128 deaths per 100k people and Florida has 114 deaths per 100k people.  Must not be locked down hard enough up there in Alabama.  Might be curfew time.

Florida numbers are completely worthless. Congrats on ending that coma.


I came to post this as well.
 
2021-01-22 2:01:18 PM  

XSV: optikeye: A couple of weeks ago. I was at the local ABC store in Pelham, AL. And this black guy...(A really cute guy BTW, just imagine a black Paul Rudd..just all happy and fun sized) comes in without a mask..and the clerk is "NOPE NOPE NOPE...NO MASK NO SERVICE, Says so right on the door" I say I have some extras...and give him a couple from my car.
He ends up buying my rum for me. He was in a rush as part of a wedding party groomsman thing.

Pelham? just passing through or are you from the area?

/lived in Pelham up until about 2 years ago.


Yup...been here for all my life. I call it "Pelhooveriverchase" now. .
Right next door to the dairy.
 
2021-01-22 2:02:51 PM  
Pelham.. can confirm.

Most every retail and food establishment (and their patrons) are doing masking and social distancing right, and have been for a very long time.
The notable exception are auto parts stores... ugh.  No masks to be found, period.
Big-box home improvement stores were slow to comply, but they eventually did.
 
2021-01-22 2:04:43 PM  
Kay Ivey is 76 years old.
Republicans always go against the politics when it affects them personally.
 
2021-01-22 2:12:48 PM  
I'm surprised a group of guys haven't tried to kidnap her for taking away their "freedoms"
 
2021-01-22 2:20:04 PM  
Are there exceptions for "Democrat official speaking to the press"?
 
2021-01-22 2:26:10 PM  
Work in downtown Birmingham and walked to lunch today. Even the homeless people here have reusable masks at this point.
 
2021-01-22 2:31:27 PM  

Not_Todd: Are there exceptions for "Democrat official speaking to the press"?


First you'd have to find a Democratic Party official in Alabama --- then we'll see how it goes. (If that person is 10 feet or more away from anyone else in the room, then he or she might not be wearing one. But I would hope they would anyway.)
 
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2021-01-22 2:32:33 PM  

optikeye: XSV: optikeye: A couple of weeks ago. I was at the local ABC store in Pelham, AL. And this black guy...(A really cute guy BTW, just imagine a black Paul Rudd..just all happy and fun sized) comes in without a mask..and the clerk is "NOPE NOPE NOPE...NO MASK NO SERVICE, Says so right on the door" I say I have some extras...and give him a couple from my car.
He ends up buying my rum for me. He was in a rush as part of a wedding party groomsman thing.

Pelham? just passing through or are you from the area?

/lived in Pelham up until about 2 years ago.

Yup...been here for all my life. I call it "Pelhooveriverchase" now. .
Right next door to the dairy.


HA! I just ran down to cahaba valley to grab lunch.  was living off 261, I'm in the latter part of Pelhooverriverchase now.
 
2021-01-22 2:45:19 PM  

OneFretAway: I drove through Alabama a few weeks ago, and I'm going to go on record as saying that it was better than Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia.


I came to Alabama 26 years ago as a teenager* and immediately declared it better than anywhere I had lived/visited in PA, NJ, FL, MD, or even most of SoCal, once you factor in natural beauty, crowds, costs, and jobs. I guess you could it a really good compromise of a lot of things. It's just a shame that our state's politics are driven by the Old Boy Network and don't accurately reflect the people very well, IMHO.

*and that was Montgomery in the 90s, by all accounts a pretty terrible place to live at the time, at least among smaller cities.
 
2021-01-22 2:48:32 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: OneFretAway: I drove through Alabama a few weeks ago, and I'm going to go on record as saying that it was better than Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia.

I came to Alabama 26 years ago as a teenager* and immediately declared it better than anywhere I had lived/visited in PA, NJ, FL, MD, or even most of SoCal, once you factor in natural beauty, crowds, costs, and jobs. I guess you could it a really good compromise of a lot of things. It's just a shame that our state's politics are driven by the Old Boy Network and don't accurately reflect the people very well, IMHO.

*and that was Montgomery in the 90s, by all accounts a pretty terrible place to live at the time, at least among smaller cities.


I stopped in Auburn to visit some dead relatives (genealogy nerd) and thought it was a super pretty town.  I've got more dead relatives in Mobile I may try to find on the way home.

I was impressed by how few billboards there were.  Louisiana is the worst.
 
2021-01-22 2:51:56 PM  

OneFretAway: I stopped in Auburn to visit some dead relatives (genealogy nerd) and thought it was a super pretty town.  I've got more dead relatives in Mobile I may try to find on the way home.

I was impressed by how few billboards there were.  Louisiana is the worst.


I'm fairly certain in that neck of the woods, the only billboards you can have are for Dog Tracks, Churches, and Fireworks.
 
2021-01-22 2:52:00 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: OneFretAway: I drove through Alabama a few weeks ago, and I'm going to go on record as saying that it was better than Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia.

I came to Alabama 26 years ago as a teenager* and immediately declared it better than anywhere I had lived/visited in PA, NJ, FL, MD, or even most of SoCal, once you factor in natural beauty, crowds, costs, and jobs. I guess you could it a really good compromise of a lot of things. It's just a shame that our state's politics are driven by the Old Boy Network and don't accurately reflect the people very well, IMHO.

*and that was Montgomery in the 90s, by all accounts a pretty terrible place to live at the time, at least among smaller cities.


The two best things about Montgomery are I-85 and I-65.

I say that as someone who isn't from here but has lived here for over 40 years. There are some bright spots to it, though there used to be more.
 
2021-01-22 2:54:16 PM  

optikeye: OneFretAway: I stopped in Auburn to visit some dead relatives (genealogy nerd) and thought it was a super pretty town.  I've got more dead relatives in Mobile I may try to find on the way home.

I was impressed by how few billboards there were.  Louisiana is the worst.

I'm fairly certain in that neck of the woods, the only billboards you can have are for Dog Tracks, Churches, and Fireworks.


In Louisiana it's all lawyers and casinos.   It's as depressing as hell.  Louisiana may be my least favorite state.
 
2021-01-22 2:55:42 PM  

optikeye: OneFretAway: I stopped in Auburn to visit some dead relatives (genealogy nerd) and thought it was a super pretty town.  I've got more dead relatives in Mobile I may try to find on the way home.

I was impressed by how few billboards there were.  Louisiana is the worst.

I'm fairly certain in that neck of the woods, the only billboards you can have are for Dog Tracks, Churches, and Fireworks.


This sign is uncomfortably close to where I live, generally speaking.

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But I guess going to a church once or twice as a kid just to hang out with friends inoculated me from Devil visits. Or the fact that he's a fictional character, that may have had something to do with it too.
 
2021-01-22 3:04:51 PM  

OneFretAway: NikolaiFarkoff: OneFretAway: I drove through Alabama a few weeks ago, and I'm going to go on record as saying that it was better than Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia.

I came to Alabama 26 years ago as a teenager* and immediately declared it better than anywhere I had lived/visited in PA, NJ, FL, MD, or even most of SoCal, once you factor in natural beauty, crowds, costs, and jobs. I guess you could it a really good compromise of a lot of things. It's just a shame that our state's politics are driven by the Old Boy Network and don't accurately reflect the people very well, IMHO.

*and that was Montgomery in the 90s, by all accounts a pretty terrible place to live at the time, at least among smaller cities.

I stopped in Auburn to visit some dead relatives (genealogy nerd) and thought it was a super pretty town.  I've got more dead relatives in Mobile I may try to find on the way home.

I was impressed by how few billboards there were.  Louisiana is the worst.


Lived in Mobile for 15 years now.  Honestly, it's pretty good down here.  We were smart enough to go ahead and cancel Mardi Gras this year and we're compensating with "porch parades" where we all decorate our porches to look like floats and then people can walk through the neighborhoods and at least have some sort of Mardi Gras fun.

Probably like many cities, the closer into downtown you are, the bluer and more diverse it is.  I live in the historic district fairly close to downtown so it's reasonably blue and diverse.  We had a lot more Biden and Jones signs than Trump signs near us.  The further west you go, the redder and crazier it gets.
 
2021-01-22 3:05:37 PM  

optikeye: OneFretAway: I stopped in Auburn to visit some dead relatives (genealogy nerd) and thought it was a super pretty town.  I've got more dead relatives in Mobile I may try to find on the way home.


Auburn is a great place, IMO, but I might be biased since I lived and went to school there for 5-6 years. You get all the quaintness of a small town, the fun of a college town, and you can hit Atlanta in less than 90s minutes (concerts, international flights, etc)

80k people in the metro area, and a pretty diversified economy. Some of the best public schools in the country, too.
 
2021-01-22 3:14:55 PM  
Alabama isn't a shiatty state when you compare it to Louisiana or Mississippi. Alabama has money that those two states don't have, but the people here are still stupid as fark. That's just how the elites want it in Alabama. The difference being there are no real elites in Louisiana and Mississippi. I am pretty sure those two states consider the slumlord of a trailer park the pinnacle of sophistication. In Alabama the elite lives in a plantation and hires a bunch of black people to housekeep and garden so they can LARP as slave owners.
 
2021-01-22 3:18:48 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: In November I left AL for the first time (family emergency) and went into a small-town Zaxby's chicken restaurant in FL. There were about 30 patrons and ZERO masks. Yet all the employees were wearing them.

That was absolute culture shock, I had forgotten what it was like to see people without a mask indoors. Very surreal.

/left and went through drive-thru


I live in Lower Alabama.. I've only seen someone refused service once for not wearing a mask.

I actually had to quit a job over it. My manager said "If the county sheriff won't enforce the mask mandate, neither will I!"
 
2021-01-22 3:20:17 PM  

FLMountainMan: And yet... Alabama has 128 deaths per 100k people and Florida has 114 deaths per 100k people. Must not be locked down hard enough up there in Alabama. Might be curfew time.


Florida reporting Covid deaths again?  i thought they stopped because DeSantis is super smart.
 
2021-01-22 3:29:45 PM  
Has anyone bothered to read the mandate?

Better than nothing, I guess, but there are a lot of articles out there saying people aren't getting fined, just reminded and encouraged to wear a mask.  But this is weaksauce for a mask mandate.

The order applies when interacting in public within 6 feet of people from a different household.

The mask or other facial covering should cover your nostrils and mouth at all times.  (should is not must)

The order applies to indoor spaces open to the general public, a vehicle operated by a transportation service, or an outdoor public space where 10 or more people are gathered.

The order requires businesses to take reasonable steps to encourage mask use by employees and customers like displaying a sign.

Businesses are not required to deny entry to people who aren't wearing a mask, but they retain the right to do so.

The order doesn't apply to people 6 years of age or younger.

The order doesn't apply to people with a medical condition or disability that prevents him or her from wearing a facial covering.

The order doesn't apply while you are are consuming food or drink.  (Billy don't need a mask, he got a beer in his hand)

The facial-covering requirement does not apply to people who are actively engaged in exercise or athletic activities. (Like in a gym)

Masks or other facial coverings can be factory-made, homemade, or improvised from household items such as scarves, bandanas, or t-shirts.

The penalty for violating the order can result in a $500 fine and/or jail time  (this isn't being enforced.)
 
2021-01-22 4:02:47 PM  
For the most part people around here use their mask. And by use their mask I mean below their nose or on the chin. Convenience stores are the worst, it's rare to see anybody wearing a mask in one. I guess people think Mtn.Dew,beer and cigarettes will keep them immune from Covid-19.
 
2021-01-22 5:25:52 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Has anyone bothered to read the mandate?

Better than nothing, I guess, but there are a lot of articles out there saying people aren't getting fined, just reminded and encouraged to wear a mask.  But this is weaksauce for a mask mandate.

The order applies when interacting in public within 6 feet of people from a different household.

The mask or other facial covering should cover your nostrils and mouth at all times.  (should is not must)

The order applies to indoor spaces open to the general public, a vehicle operated by a transportation service, or an outdoor public space where 10 or more people are gathered.

The order requires businesses to take reasonable steps to encourage mask use by employees and customers like displaying a sign.

Businesses are not required to deny entry to people who aren't wearing a mask, but they retain the right to do so.

The order doesn't apply to people 6 years of age or younger.

The order doesn't apply to people with a medical condition or disability that prevents him or her from wearing a facial covering.

The order doesn't apply while you are are consuming food or drink.  (Billy don't need a mask, he got a beer in his hand)

The facial-covering requirement does not apply to people who are actively engaged in exercise or athletic activities. (Like in a gym)

Masks or other facial coverings can be factory-made, homemade, or improvised from household items such as scarves, bandanas, or t-shirts.

The penalty for violating the order can result in a $500 fine and/or jail time  (this isn't being enforced.)


yep.  Just a way to rules lawyer yourself to not wearing a mask
 
2021-01-22 11:31:09 PM  
I work for the board of education in a county in Alabama. They keep taking breaks and going all virtual because the covid is gonna kill everybody etc etc. But during every single time we have been out of school because the threat was too high to have school....SPORTS CONTINUED AS USUAL. Football games etc. Just yesterday they had a All County Basketball tournament with 7 schools participating in one gym. Between players coaches and fans not a single mask could be seen. But when school is in session we are told to have zero tolerance for children who do not have their masks on. They are to be written up immediately. NO excuses. They have the choice of virtual if they do not wish to wear a mask.
 
2021-01-23 3:50:06 PM  

thrillbilly1967: I work for the board of education in a county in Alabama. They keep taking breaks and going all virtual because the covid is gonna kill everybody etc etc. But during every single time we have been out of school because the threat was too high to have school....SPORTS CONTINUED AS USUAL. Football games etc. Just yesterday they had a All County Basketball tournament with 7 schools participating in one gym. Between players coaches and fans not a single mask could be seen. But when school is in session we are told to have zero tolerance for children who do not have their masks on. They are to be written up immediately. NO excuses. They have the choice of virtual if they do not wish to wear a mask.


Sounds like we need to cancel the sports, not the zero tolerance mask policy. Or better yet, fund the school district to go virtual 100%.
 
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