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2021-01-22 8:41:16 AM  
Why don't vehicles with masts have an interlock?  Something that won't let you move at all unless you confirm you know it's up and checked it's clear, even then it limits you to five miles an hour.
 
2021-01-22 9:42:02 AM  

EvilEgg: Why don't vehicles with masts have an interlock?  Something that won't let you move at all unless you confirm you know it's up and checked it's clear, even then it limits you to five miles an hour.


Same reason private vehicles don't have built in speed limiters, lobbyists and corruption.

The people with power don't want safer they want cheaper.
 
2021-01-22 10:19:16 AM  
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2021-01-22 10:43:43 AM  

Barfmaker: EvilEgg: Why don't vehicles with masts have an interlock?  Something that won't let you move at all unless you confirm you know it's up and checked it's clear, even then it limits you to five miles an hour.

Same reason private vehicles don't have built in speed limiters, lobbyists and corruption.

The people with power don't want safer they want cheaper.


Even if they do the owner will often bypass or disable it. I once worked in a warehouse where they taped down the lift sensor on a scissor lift so they could drive it around while still elevated. The way that thing wobbled while they were zooming around makes me wonder how nobody died yet
 
2021-01-22 10:45:20 AM  
You're not my boss.
 
2021-01-22 10:45:28 AM  

EvilEgg: Why don't vehicles with masts have an interlock?  Something that won't let you move at all unless you confirm you know it's up and checked it's clear, even then it limits you to five miles an hour.


The thinking is that these will only be operated by professional drivers, and professional drivers know to do a walk-around inspection before driving away.

Professional drivers who dont do walk-around inspections do not remain professional drivers for very long, so its a self-correcting issue.
 
2021-01-22 10:46:41 AM  
Some really useful pro-tips on here today.
 
2021-01-22 10:47:03 AM  
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2021-01-22 10:54:36 AM  

Barfmaker: Same reason private vehicles don't have built in speed limiters


Oh FFS, get real, will you?
 
2021-01-22 10:55:59 AM  
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2021-01-22 11:03:23 AM  

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Um, about that... (NSFL)
 
2021-01-22 11:05:25 AM  
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2021-01-22 11:06:23 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: bucket_pup: [Fark user image 611x408]

Um, about that... (NSFL)


That's terrible.
 
2021-01-22 11:06:40 AM  

Barfmaker: EvilEgg: Why don't vehicles with masts have an interlock?  Something that won't let you move at all unless you confirm you know it's up and checked it's clear, even then it limits you to five miles an hour.

Same reason private vehicles don't have built in speed limiters, lobbyists and corruption.

The people with power don't want safer they want cheaper.


1-800-321-OSHA might be a good number to memorize.  It could save your life.
 
2021-01-22 11:06:50 AM  
... do we really have to cut down ALL the big trees, jus' sayin'....
 
2021-01-22 11:07:11 AM  
Dammit, I knew there was one more thing...
 
2021-01-22 11:08:01 AM  
As often as this happens. You would think someone would come up with a type of lock out that would keep trucks from moving or loud alarm when the boom is out.
 
2021-01-22 11:11:50 AM  
 
2021-01-22 11:12:45 AM  

stuffy: As often as this happens. You would think someone would come up with a type of lock out that would keep trucks from moving or loud alarm when the boom is out.


Yeah, i suspect new trucks all have an interlock that keeps you from disengaging the parking brake until the boom is on its cradle.

However, these things are damned expensive so theres still a lot of old trucks running around out there with no such safety features.
 
2021-01-22 11:22:44 AM  

Barfmaker: Same reason private vehicles don't have built in speed limiters, lobbyists and corruption.


A speed limiter I get, but I'm not sure how adding lobbyists and corruption to my car would make it safer.
 
2021-01-22 11:22:57 AM  
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2021-01-22 11:27:21 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: bucket_pup: [Fark user image 611x408]

Um, about that... (NSFL)


Yup, I knew about that! Sad for the giraffe, no doubt.
 
2021-01-22 11:27:47 AM  
CSB: (another "when i worked at the airport" story)   We got new fuel trucks one summer, and the new fuel trucks all had a special safety feature that wouldnt let you disengage the parking brake unless all the hose nozzles were clipped into their cradles.

Which frankly, is a pretty good idea. More than a couple times i'd seen a overworked & distracted ramp guy drive a fuel truck down the apron with a fuel nozzle dragging behind.

However, these fuel trucks get used 24/7 in all weather and theyre being used by young guys in a hurry, slamming nozzles, ladders, chocks, towbars around, inevitably the little wire that connects to that sensor on the cradle got pinched or banged or something & lost its connection.

"Hey we cant move that truck, the parking brake wont come off"
"Did you check the hoses in their cradles? Did you check the PTO's off?"
"Oh yeah."
"Well let me check"  (boss spends an hour or so fiddling with it, then calls maintenance, who come out and hotwire it.)
"We'll fix it right in the morning"

It never got fixed in the morning, and a couple months later when one of the other trucks had the same problem, it got hotwired too.

Thats how safety interlocks usually work in the real world.
 
2021-01-22 12:10:03 PM  
I trust tree guys. If they say that sign needed to come down then it needed to come down. Probably some dry rot.
 
2021-01-22 1:46:52 PM  

chewd: CSB: (another "when i worked at the airport" story)   We got new fuel trucks one summer, and the new fuel trucks all had a special safety feature that wouldnt let you disengage the parking brake unless all the hose nozzles were clipped into their cradles.

Which frankly, is a pretty good idea. More than a couple times i'd seen a overworked & distracted ramp guy drive a fuel truck down the apron with a fuel nozzle dragging behind.

However, these fuel trucks get used 24/7 in all weather and theyre being used by young guys in a hurry, slamming nozzles, ladders, chocks, towbars around, inevitably the little wire that connects to that sensor on the cradle got pinched or banged or something & lost its connection.

"Hey we cant move that truck, the parking brake wont come off"
"Did you check the hoses in their cradles? Did you check the PTO's off?"
"Oh yeah."
"Well let me check"  (boss spends an hour or so fiddling with it, then calls maintenance, who come out and hotwire it.)
"We'll fix it right in the morning"

It never got fixed in the morning, and a couple months later when one of the other trucks had the same problem, it got hotwired too.

Thats how safety interlocks usually work in the real world.


Well in manufacturing, bypassing safety interlocks is a good way to get a trip to the unemployment office.  Don't bother the union rep, he ain't going to help you.

"Sorry you lost your arm, I guess you'll have to take your pink slip with your left hand."
 
2021-01-22 4:32:16 PM  
Sometimes there's no possibility of an interlock or warning signal, making occasional accidents nearly inevitable.

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2021-01-22 6:00:56 PM  

EvilEgg: chewd: CSB: (another "when i worked at the airport" story)   We got new fuel trucks one summer, and the new fuel trucks all had a special safety feature that wouldnt let you disengage the parking brake unless all the hose nozzles were clipped into their cradles.

Which frankly, is a pretty good idea. More than a couple times i'd seen a overworked & distracted ramp guy drive a fuel truck down the apron with a fuel nozzle dragging behind.

However, these fuel trucks get used 24/7 in all weather and theyre being used by young guys in a hurry, slamming nozzles, ladders, chocks, towbars around, inevitably the little wire that connects to that sensor on the cradle got pinched or banged or something & lost its connection.

"Hey we cant move that truck, the parking brake wont come off"
"Did you check the hoses in their cradles? Did you check the PTO's off?"
"Oh yeah."
"Well let me check"  (boss spends an hour or so fiddling with it, then calls maintenance, who come out and hotwire it.)
"We'll fix it right in the morning"

It never got fixed in the morning, and a couple months later when one of the other trucks had the same problem, it got hotwired too.

Thats how safety interlocks usually work in the real world.

Well in manufacturing, bypassing safety interlocks is a good way to get a trip to the unemployment office.  Don't bother the union rep, he ain't going to help you.

"Sorry you lost your arm, I guess you'll have to take your pink slip with your left hand."


Went to a packaging trade show and the sales rep showed how safe his company's sealing equipment was by sticking his hand into the sealer bar area while it was in operation. It stopped and retracted as it should. The CEO took him to one side and fired him on the spot. The CEO said: " At your next job, stick your briefcase into the sealer area. If it had ripped your arm off in front of our customers, we would all be looking for a new job."
 
2021-01-22 8:13:39 PM  
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2021-01-22 9:34:23 PM  

TheReject: Barfmaker: EvilEgg: Why don't vehicles with masts have an interlock?  Something that won't let you move at all unless you confirm you know it's up and checked it's clear, even then it limits you to five miles an hour.

Same reason private vehicles don't have built in speed limiters, lobbyists and corruption.

The people with power don't want safer they want cheaper.

Even if they do the owner will often bypass or disable it. I once worked in a warehouse where they taped down the lift sensor on a scissor lift so they could drive it around while still elevated. The way that thing wobbled while they were zooming around makes me wonder how nobody died yet


That some people might do an end run around it doesn't make it a bad idea. Many people will not bypass it and that will lead to fewer maimed and dead people, which is better.

There's no one thing that will solve all the bad things, all we can do is harm reduction. We need to accept that and start doing it.
 
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