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2021-01-22 9:12:09 AM  
I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.
 
2021-01-22 9:13:12 AM  
Joe is having to spend a lot of time reversing the damage, and then more time firing the slack-jawed jackanapes that Donnie threw out there to poison the well, or help his Dumbest Coup. It's gonna be a busy month with just that alone.
 
2021-01-22 9:55:38 AM  

iheartscotch: I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.


Same.  I was expecting Fox News et al to go on and on about it.  So far, the only thing I've seen is them suggesting that Biden is so dumb/senile that he needs note cards to keep track of them.  They ranted about EOs under Obama, said nothing under Trump and you know they are *itching* to biatch about it now but are not for some reason.  If it doesn't happen within the next week or so, I will be surprised.  Maybe that's the line on their blatant hypocrisy?
 
2021-01-22 9:58:53 AM  

iheartscotch: I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.


Plenty of that coming from Faux Gnus, but yeah, I haven't heard too many complains from the right yet -- maybe some of them have realized that Trump's 220 EOs over a single term don't leave them with much of a leg to stand on.  Not that that's ever stopped them before, mind you, but still...

hubiestubert: Joe is having to spend a lot of time reversing the damage, and then more time firing the slack-jawed jackanapes that Donnie threw out there to poison the well, or help his Dumbest Coup. It's gonna be a busy month with just that alone.


I've been saying for years now that whomever takes over from Trump is going to have to spend at least half their term fixing the mountainous piles of Donnie's shiat.  I think we've gotten the best case scenario in this situation though; Dems in control of all three branches, and Biden isn't afraid to dash off a slew of EOs right out of the gate to tackle the most important piles of shiat that most urgently need clearing that the right would otherwise object the hell out of if he tried to pass this stuff through the senate first.  Ain't nobody got time for that shiat, and Biden knows it.  The faster Donnie's "legacy" can be shoveled, wiped down, disinfected, and exorcized, the better.
 
2021-01-22 10:14:59 AM  
I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.
 
2021-01-22 10:33:30 AM  

leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.


Also helps that the staff he's hired and people he's appointed to key positions aren't Nazis.
 
2021-01-22 1:47:23 PM  

UberDave: iheartscotch: I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.

Same.  I was expecting Fox News et al to go on and on about it.  So far, the only thing I've seen is them suggesting that Biden is so dumb/senile that he needs note cards to keep track of them.  They ranted about EOs under Obama, said nothing under Trump and you know they are *itching* to biatch about it now but are not for some reason.  If it doesn't happen within the next week or so, I will be surprised.  Maybe that's the line on their blatant hypocrisy?


There is no line. We've been shown that over and over and over for decades, but especially the past five years.

But now that there's no leader feeding them their wording, they can't think for themselves.
 
2021-01-22 2:15:14 PM  

Cafe Threads: UberDave: iheartscotch: I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.

Same.  I was expecting Fox News et al to go on and on about it.  So far, the only thing I've seen is them suggesting that Biden is so dumb/senile that he needs note cards to keep track of them.  They ranted about EOs under Obama, said nothing under Trump and you know they are *itching* to biatch about it now but are not for some reason.  If it doesn't happen within the next week or so, I will be surprised.  Maybe that's the line on their blatant hypocrisy?

There is no line. We've been shown that over and over and over for decades, but especially the past five years.

But now that there's no leader feeding them their wording, they can't think for themselves.


Last sentence. That, right there. It's unbelievable how in disarray they are without their golden calf. He has been the wellspring of all of the bullshiat for the last 10 years, at minimum.
 
2021-01-22 2:15:48 PM  
In 2024 Peesident Gaspedal Gaetz will undo everything.
 
2021-01-22 2:17:55 PM  

leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.


I suspect Biden fully intends to be a single-term president, and has no farks to give about his re-election. He is a dangerous individual - a man with nothing to lose.
 
2021-01-22 2:18:24 PM  

leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days.


I've been angrily pointing out for years that we've been fighting the same fight since FDR... and more recently that I wish I had the money to form a Lincoln Project-esque FDR Project to make noise from the left.

I'm now starting to wonder if we're not actually seeing FDR 2.0 in the Oval right now.

Keep it up, Pres. Biden -- Don't forget that the last time the president made giant efforts to help all Americans and to expand our safety net and social justice (as it was understood at the time), the asshole-demo had to pass a constitutional amendment to prevent any future reincarnations from being reelected more than once.

Fingers crossed.
 
2021-01-22 2:18:40 PM  

GooberMcFly: Also helps that the staff he's hired and people he's appointed to key positions aren't Nazis.


I mean lets not undersell it - he's actually bringing in competent government employees. People who also know how to turn the cogs of the government. just saying "They're not nazis" underplays their competency I think.
 
2021-01-22 2:19:36 PM  

hubiestubert: Joe is having to spend a lot of time reversing the damage, and then more time firing the slack-jawed jackanapes that Donnie threw out there to poison the well, or help his Dumbest Coup. It's gonna be a busy month with just that alone.


Hell, it's going to be a busy 4 years just doing those things.
 
2021-01-22 2:19:49 PM  
Dear God, it's like actual governance is taking place.

I'm eagerly awaiting when he starts making nominations for positions and the GOP stonewalls it and they just get installed in "acting" roles, since apparently we've decided that's how we can run things now.

You know the outcry is coming, and I will savor it.
 
2021-01-22 2:20:19 PM  
I'm one of the people with an insanely huge student loan balance.  They've waived more interest for me during this pandemic than you probably owe.  You need to be angry with any politician who won't wipe your debts.  It's all a big farking game.  The dollars and cents mean nothing and do nothing but shackle you
 
2021-01-22 2:20:51 PM  

Obamacare: leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.

I suspect Biden fully intends to be a single-term president, and has no farks to give about his re-election. He is a dangerous individual - a man with nothing to lose.


I want 6 years. Do one re-election, then step down two years in so Kamala can run as an incumbent and do the full 10 years
 
2021-01-22 2:21:05 PM  

GooberMcFly: leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.

Also helps that the staff he's hired and people he's appointed to key positions aren't Nazis.


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2021-01-22 2:22:43 PM  

Purple_Urkle: In 2024 Peesident Gaspedal Gaetz will undo everything.


I'm sure Nestor would make an amazing First Husband.
 
2021-01-22 2:23:26 PM  
Just a question. If the min wage goes to 15 what happens to people who have worked at the same place for many years that makes just over 15? Do they get their hourly rate adjusted? Not trying to be a smartarse. Genuinely curious.
 
2021-01-22 2:24:00 PM  
 
2021-01-22 2:24:02 PM  

minivanracer: Just a question. If the min wage goes to 15 what happens to people who have worked at the same place for many years that makes just over 15? Do they get their hourly rate adjusted? Not trying to be a smartarse. Genuinely curious.


It's up to their employer to decide.
 
2021-01-22 2:25:47 PM  

iheartscotch: I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.


I expected to hear more objections from the left because they are evidence of rule by decree. authoritaniism and all that.  I remember that from 2016.  Granted, none of Bidens EOs are to literally put more firearms into the hands of the mentally ill, but even so.
 
2021-01-22 2:26:07 PM  

Thrag: minivanracer: Just a question. If the min wage goes to 15 what happens to people who have worked at the same place for many years that makes just over 15? Do they get their hourly rate adjusted? Not trying to be a smartarse. Genuinely curious.

It's up to their employer to decide.


Thats pretty much what I thought. It has been a huge topic where my wife works.
 
2021-01-22 2:27:10 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I'm one of the people with an insanely huge student loan balance.  They've waived more interest for me during this pandemic than you probably owe.  You need to be angry with any politician who won't wipe your debts.  It's all a big farking game.  The dollars and cents mean nothing and do nothing but shackle you


Yep. Can't even deduct that massive interest - think interest deductions caps at like $2K or something. Not much when you owe mid-six figures.
 
2021-01-22 2:27:11 PM  

Psychopusher: Dems in control of all three branches


Two branches there Tommy Tuberville.  Conservatives control the SCOTUS, the third branch, in a 5-4 split.
 
2021-01-22 2:28:41 PM  
On the right track. Sad to see the $15 min wage is just for federal contractors right now. Needs to be for every employer in the country. But it's the first step in the direction he needs to go far, far down.
 
2021-01-22 2:30:06 PM  

iheartscotch: I expected to hear more objections about all of these executive orders because Repubs have no shame.


I reckon they don't want to mention this because they don't want to draw the attention of their audience to what he's doing with these executive orders. A lot of it is stuff that would be popular with Republican voters too.
 
2021-01-22 2:32:08 PM  
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2021-01-22 2:33:24 PM  

minivanracer: Thrag: minivanracer: Just a question. If the min wage goes to 15 what happens to people who have worked at the same place for many years that makes just over 15? Do they get their hourly rate adjusted? Not trying to be a smartarse. Genuinely curious.

It's up to their employer to decide.

Thats pretty much what I thought. It has been a huge topic where my wife works.


Also check your state employment labor laws - there are clauses for potential reductions (including a safety that the reduction cannot be retroactive).  There are also clauses for how much notice an employer has to provide to the employee.
 
2021-01-22 2:34:08 PM  
While I really like what JB has done so far, I really do wish more of this stuff could be handled legislatively. Blame the asshole republicans for that.

When dealing with this type of government action I relate it ro the story of the three little pigs. Pig #1 built his house of straw, #2 of wood and sticks, #3 of bricks. Wolf comes along and trashes the first two easily but can't handle the bricks.

Executive orders are like the house of straw. Only lasts as long as that president stays in office and can be easily blown away by the next, just like Biden is doing now.
Court decisions are the house of wood. Stronger but almost as easily dismantled. Courts, including the supreme court, have reversed decisions by other courts as well as their own depending on politics. Challenges to Roe v Wade are a good example of that machinery working and why court appointments are so important.
Legislative actions, as in passed the House, the Senate and signed by the chief executive, are the house of bricks. They are the most permanent the system can make, even though they can be dismantled as well. It just takes a lot to do this.

The stuff that Biden and the democrats want to do I would like to make as long term and permanent and really tough to be farked with by future politicians, courts or presidents. Fark the republicans for not letting that happen.
 
2021-01-22 2:35:11 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I'm one of the people with an insanely huge student loan balance.  They've waived more interest for me during this pandemic than you probably owe.  You need to be angry with any politician who won't wipe your debts.  It's all a big farking game.  The dollars and cents mean nothing and do nothing but shackle you


The only thing you can default on and still keep the product

Maybe your degree should come with an asterisk showing your poor financial planning
 
2021-01-22 2:36:29 PM  

bluejeansonfire: On the right track. Sad to see the $15 min wage is just for federal contractors right now. Needs to be for every employer in the country. But it's the first step in the direction he needs to go far, far down.


Biden does not have the authority to set the minimum wage for everyone - it would require an act of congress.

You know, I just realized it's kind of amazing that no one has attempted to even try blocking any of Biden's EO, unlike Trump. I know Biden's team is on the ball ensuring each one is fully legal, but I'm surprised a trumphead hasn't tried to make an effort. Especially to attempt to make a parallel with how Trump's orders were blocked or overturned.
 
2021-01-22 2:36:44 PM  
I'm still waiting to see what Biden does about the family separations.
 
2021-01-22 2:39:39 PM  
For anyone expecting a lot of ranting and raving about too many EOs...  I'm not really concerned.  Here are some points to consider:

1. Obama had to rule by EO because the Senate was basically blocking every damn thing.
2. Donnie 2 Scoops was making EOs like mad because most of the stuff he wanted to do was against the law, unethical, or both.
3. Even many Republicans know what point #2 is correct.  So they are fine with those orders being overturned.
4. Even many Republicans know what point #1 is correct.  And maybe now that McTurtle is out of the big chair, they will be willing to actually, you know, do their jobs.

2021 is the year that optimism returned for me.  4 years of my optimism being stomped on hasn't damaged me that badly.
 
2021-01-22 2:40:41 PM  
Is the new wage going to be indexed to inflation like the campaign contribution limits are?
 
2021-01-22 2:41:13 PM  

Arkanaut: I'm still waiting to see what Biden does about the family separations.


The article mentions executive orders coming next week including
"changing border processing and refugee policies as well as establishing a family reunification task force."
 
2021-01-22 2:41:52 PM  
And I'm assuming the Republicans are already crying about the "Tyranny of the Executive" now that it is a Democrat doing it.
 
2021-01-22 2:42:16 PM  

durbnpoisn: For anyone expecting a lot of ranting and raving about too many EOs...  I'm not really concerned.  Here are some points to consider:

1. Obama had to rule by EO because the Senate was basically blocking every damn thing.
2. Donnie 2 Scoops was making EOs like mad because most of the stuff he wanted to do was against the law, unethical, or both.
3. Even many Republicans know what point #2 is correct.  So they are fine with those orders being overturned.
4. Even many Republicans know what point #1 is correct.  And maybe now that McTurtle is out of the big chair, they will be willing to actually, you know, do their jobs.

2021 is the year that optimism returned for me.  4 years of my optimism being stomped on hasn't damaged me that badly.


I'm gonna be honest.  It's messed with me pretty badly.  I can't say I'm the same guy I was in 2016, world-view wise.  None of the changes have been what I consider "good".
 
2021-01-22 2:42:51 PM  

inner ted: Champion of the Sun: I'm one of the people with an insanely huge student loan balance.  They've waived more interest for me during this pandemic than you probably owe.  You need to be angry with any politician who won't wipe your debts.  It's all a big farking game.  The dollars and cents mean nothing and do nothing but shackle you

The only thing you can default on and still keep the product

Maybe your degree should come with an asterisk showing your poor financial planning


It is not possible to discharge student loan debt
 
2021-01-22 2:42:53 PM  

Obamacare: leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.

I suspect Biden fully intends to be a single-term president, and has no farks to give about his re-election. He is a dangerous individual - a man with nothing to lose.


I'm not entirely convinced that he intends to see his first term all the way through..... What is it, two years he has to serve so the VP can step in and still serve two full on her own?
 
2021-01-22 2:43:22 PM  

inner ted: Champion of the Sun: I'm one of the people with an insanely huge student loan balance.  They've waived more interest for me during this pandemic than you probably owe.  You need to be angry with any politician who won't wipe your debts.  It's all a big farking game.  The dollars and cents mean nothing and do nothing but shackle you

The only thing you can default on and still keep the product

Maybe your degree should come with an asterisk showing your poor financial planning


Everyone knows that education should be locked away from anyone who doesn't have the means to afford it.
 
2021-01-22 2:45:34 PM  

minivanracer: Just a question. If the min wage goes to 15 what happens to people who have worked at the same place for many years that makes just over 15? Do they get their hourly rate adjusted? Not trying to be a smartarse. Genuinely curious.


FTFA : "delivering stimulus checks to very low-income Americans, and the other on raising the minimum wage to $15 for the federal workforce"

Unless you work for the federal government this does not benefit you.  At least from what I can see.  It's certainly not a federally mandated $15/hour wage.
 
2021-01-22 2:48:38 PM  

Arkanaut: I'm still waiting to see what Biden does about the family separations.


it's coming https://twitter.com/tedhesson/​status/1​351996297738383363
 
2021-01-22 2:52:05 PM  

ProcrastinationStation: Obamacare: leviosaurus: I gotta say, Biden has impressed the hell out of me in his first three days. There's a lot of legit criticisms about electing an old white guy. But in Biden we have someone who knows where all the levers of government are, knows what needs to get done, and is all out of farks to give. I've been wanting to see a President like this my entire life. Biden is the right guy at the right time.

I suspect Biden fully intends to be a single-term president, and has no farks to give about his re-election. He is a dangerous individual - a man with nothing to lose.

I'm not entirely convinced that he intends to see his first term all the way through..... What is it, two years he has to serve so the VP can step in and still serve two full on her own?


Two years plus one day, yes.
 
2021-01-22 2:56:04 PM  
I think Biden's less liberal than Obama, but Obama was far more concerned (with some good reason) about seeming measured and restrained and even-handed and compromising, etc.  Biden DNGAF, and so he may actually get more stuff done.  Couple of weeks ago, when they were saying the GOP wouldn't like some of his proposals, and he was like "That's right."

But.

I'm the manager at a small business, retail, about ten employees.  We were scraping by before the plague.  Our minimum is more than minimum wage, but if we had to raise it to $15, we'd have to drop two or three people.  Not sure we could stay open with that staff reduction, but . . . .

And, I mean, I don't make $15 an hour, and I'd love a raise.  But it's just not possible.  And most other small businesses whose financials I'm aware of, around here, are in a similar position.  No one's getting rich at a small business in this area, far as I can tell.

SO.  What would actually be more helpful is if they, say, cut federal income taxes on a sliding scale for people making under, say, $50k annually.  Say people making under $35k pay no federal income tax.  Then remove the upper limit for Social Security and remove SS/FICA payroll taxes for the lowest earners, too.

Make life easier for low-income folks and add like 15% to their paychecks.  Add opt-in Medicare For All, and it would be a world of difference.  Good for everyone, with the massive increase in disposable income going around.
 
2021-01-22 2:56:09 PM  

JokerMattly: GooberMcFly: Also helps that the staff he's hired and people he's appointed to key positions aren't Nazis.

I mean lets not undersell it - he's actually bringing in competent government employees. People who also know how to turn the cogs of the government. just saying "They're not nazis" underplays their competency I think.


Also, nazis can be any range of competence. Anyone, nazi or otherwise, willing to work for trump, and who trump would be willing to hire, OTOH...
 
2021-01-22 2:59:05 PM  

fireclown: durbnpoisn: For anyone expecting a lot of ranting and raving about too many EOs...  I'm not really concerned.  Here are some points to consider:

1. Obama had to rule by EO because the Senate was basically blocking every damn thing.
2. Donnie 2 Scoops was making EOs like mad because most of the stuff he wanted to do was against the law, unethical, or both.
3. Even many Republicans know what point #2 is correct.  So they are fine with those orders being overturned.
4. Even many Republicans know what point #1 is correct.  And maybe now that McTurtle is out of the big chair, they will be willing to actually, you know, do their jobs.

2021 is the year that optimism returned for me.  4 years of my optimism being stomped on hasn't damaged me that badly.

I'm gonna be honest.  It's messed with me pretty badly.  I can't say I'm the same guy I was in 2016, world-view wise.  None of the changes have been what I consider "good".


My wife would tell you that I am optimistic to an absurd degree.  And I cannot even tell you how many times over the past 4 years, my thoughts on what should happen or what would happen just got crushed repeatedly.
Such to the point that my wife had gotten to the, "oh shut up, what do you know" phase.

Well, I'm happy to say that I have not changed despite being let down.  Because I won't change.  I refuse to give up.  I will not let myself be brought down to where there is no hope.

And damnit, I was right to feel that way.  Because between the Pres election, the GA election, and just everything since (the 6th notwithstanding), everything really has been going well.  And soon, we hope, there will be consequences for those bastards that tried to steal and destroy our hope.
 
2021-01-22 3:01:58 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I'm one of the people with an insanely huge student loan balance.  They've waived more interest for me during this pandemic than you probably owe.  You need to be angry with any politician who won't wipe your debts.  It's all a big farking game.  The dollars and cents mean nothing and do nothing but shackle you


In the grand scheme of things, I don't owe a massiveamount in loans, but still enough to hurt. Thanks to the lack of payments this past year, I was able to buy cool stuff from local businesses that tends to be pricier than stuff found at big box stores. I was able to play Santa for a bunch of kids at my local Ronald McDonald House (not like, dressing up or anything, but just buying toys, clothes, things like that). I was able to donate to local charities. I was able to do so much more than I have in previous years, and it was fantastic.

That student loan payment is literally what's keeping me from feeling stable enough to go from renting to buying a house (I live in a fairly cheap area, so there's that to consider as well).

Yes, I incurred the debt. No, I don't object to paying it back--in theory. But the truth of the matter is that for many of us, the jobs we were told we had to go to college to get DON'T FARKING EXIST. That, or the pay isn't nearly enough to justify the expense of those degrees. (And no, we're not talking about underwater basket weaving, har har).
 
2021-01-22 3:08:33 PM  
Has the BidenHarris declassified the tape of the Russian hookers peeing on the Trump?
 
2021-01-22 3:11:00 PM  
Amazing what happens when a normal human with something > .0001 morals and intelligence surrounds himself with competent, patriotic, intelligent and hardworking individuals.

I almost feel patriotic again.
 
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