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(The Daily Beast)   QAnon supporters in the House and Senate may not get security clearances, what with giving terrorists grand tours and all   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2021-01-22 8:30:43 AM  
Has anyone confirmed that reps gave those terrorists tours of the Capital building?
 
2021-01-22 9:44:13 AM  
Good first step towards expulsion.
 
2021-01-22 9:51:47 AM  
The previous administration was full of people who couldn't get a clearance to be a janitor at the Pentagon and nobody did a thing about it.

I'll believe it when I see it.
 
2021-01-22 10:11:27 AM  
lock them up
 
2021-01-22 10:39:14 AM  

alechemist: Has anyone confirmed that reps gave those terrorists tours of the Capital building?


I haven't seen any proof, but it IS an ongoing investigation.
 
2021-01-22 11:38:37 AM  
They shouldn't be given security clearances because they are not psychologically fit for them.

When I applied for a security clearance, background checks and psychological fitness was part of the process. Anyone that believes in QAnon bullshiat should be disqualified from the jump.
 
2021-01-22 2:46:35 PM  
QAnon supporters in the House and Senate shouldn't be in the House and Senate.
 
2021-01-22 2:46:55 PM  
Good start, but ejection and jail are better.
 
2021-01-22 2:49:35 PM  
LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..
 
2021-01-22 2:51:20 PM  
SF-86, question 29.3: "Have you EVER advocated any acts of terrorism or activities designed to overthrow the U.S. Government by force?"

29.4 "Have you EVER been a member of an organization dedicated to the use of violence or force to overthrow
the United States Government, and which engaged in activities to that end with an awareness of the organization's dedication to that end or with the specific intent to further such activities?"

29.5 "Have you EVER been a member of an organization that advocates or practices commission of acts of force or violence to discourage others from exercising their rights under the U.S. Constitution or any state of the United States with the specific intent to further such action?"

29.6 "Have you EVER knowingly engaged in activities designed to overthrow the U.S. Government by force?"

29.7 "Have you EVER associated with anyone involved in activities to further terrorism?"
 
2021-01-22 2:51:51 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Or they prefer not to give security clearance to people who are verifiably barking, bugnuts crazy. So standard procedure.
 
2021-01-22 2:51:58 PM  
This is a start.

Go on...
 
2021-01-22 2:52:08 PM  
It's a start. And any of their colleagues that give them the info they are barred from getting should be charged with leaking classified information.

And I would like a pony
 
2021-01-22 2:52:31 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Exhibit one of someone who wouldn't pass a security test and back ground check.
 
2021-01-22 2:52:44 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


It's baked into the SF-86 National Security form, you farking muppet. It has nothing to do with liberals or purity tests.
 
2021-01-22 2:52:45 PM  
Murphy's bill, one of the first legislative efforts crafted in response to the terror on display two weeks ago, is a sign of how sharply the policy agenda of Congress and President Joe Biden in the coming weeks and months has shifted with respect to right-wing extremism.

..and when it gets approved by both houses, it will become MURPHY'S LAW.
 
2021-01-22 2:52:54 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
 
2021-01-22 2:53:02 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Mm hmm.
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2021-01-22 2:53:21 PM  

edmo: The previous administration was full of people who couldn't get a clearance to be a janitor at the Pentagon and nobody did a thing about it.

I'll believe it when I see it.


We have got used to quite some mess. I just say Kushner. I just hope that a new management is running the show now and these things will be handled in a proper manner again.
 
2021-01-22 2:53:37 PM  

Kubo: They shouldn't be given security clearances because they are not psychologically fit for them.

When I applied for a security clearance, background checks and psychological fitness was part of the process. Anyone that believes in QAnon bullshiat should be disqualified from the jump.


Jebus, when I applied for a clearance, they went back and interviewed the teachers at my high school, then interviewed people I went to school with.  Most of them I hadn't seen or talked to in over 20 years.
 
2021-01-22 2:53:45 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..

Prank Call of Cthulhu: SF-86, question 29.3: "Have you EVER advocated any acts of terrorism or activities designed to overthrow the U.S. Government by force?"

29.4 "Have you EVER been a member of an organization dedicated to the use of violence or force to overthrow
the United States Government, and which engaged in activities to that end with an awareness of the organization's dedication to that end or with the specific intent to further such activities?"

29.5 "Have you EVER been a member of an organization that advocates or practices commission of acts of force or violence to discourage others from exercising their rights under the U.S. Constitution or any state of the United States with the specific intent to further such action?"

29.6 "Have you EVER knowingly engaged in activities designed to overthrow the U.S. Government by force?"

29.7 "Have you EVER associated with anyone involved in activities to further terrorism?"


Asserted and rebutted in 2 minutes, nice.
 
2021-01-22 2:53:53 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Oooh, was a certain lucky someone turned away from TSA recently?
 
2021-01-22 2:54:15 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


It is always sad to see someone have nobody care enough about them to get them the help they so desperately need...
 
2021-01-22 2:54:16 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


I see the orange mushroom suckers are out in full force again.
 
2021-01-22 2:56:46 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


That purity test was already codified when said assholes swore to protect and defend the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
 
2021-01-22 2:57:08 PM  

oa330_man: Kubo: They shouldn't be given security clearances because they are not psychologically fit for them.

When I applied for a security clearance, background checks and psychological fitness was part of the process. Anyone that believes in QAnon bullshiat should be disqualified from the jump.

Jebus, when I applied for a clearance, they went back and interviewed the teachers at my high school, then interviewed people I went to school with.  Most of them I hadn't seen or talked to in over 20 years.


I had to get my clearence level increased while active duty, they did all of that with me already having been a Navy Officer for four years.  They do not fark around.
 
2021-01-22 2:58:03 PM  
"If you had someone go to 'Stop the Steal,' and thought there were white vans with burning ballots, that's a bit different than thinking babies were harvested in Epstein's temple."

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2021-01-22 3:01:22 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Why do you believe that followers of an emerging religion which calls for the mass executions of Democrats as one of its central tenets should be trusted with anything important?
 
2021-01-22 3:04:55 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Here to get your daily lashings and dose of shame? Such masochists over there on the right.
The constant victimhood, the fascination of cucks and piss and transexuals, it's a wonder anyone on the right can get anything done while keeping up with all their fetishes. Oh yeah, they don't get anything done, silly me.
 
2021-01-22 3:05:37 PM  
These people need to understand - it's not because you're a politician and a member of one of the two parties that you are automatically respectable and mainstream - not anymore, anyways.

They done f***ed that up, but good. FA&FO.
 
2021-01-22 3:06:35 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


I found the guy who thinks form 4473 is a test.

It's a tough one, isn't it?
 
2021-01-22 3:08:34 PM  
Again, how the fark aren't the people wearing the same bullshiat Q clothing the terrorists were wearing immediately removed from their positions?
Imagine if AOC wore an ISIS hate, ISIS tshirt to work?
 
2021-01-22 3:09:22 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Hi, I work for a US Government lab and have a DOE clearance.

How about you STFU since you CLEARLY don't understand the process?

/anyway the REAL fun starts if you give them all Human Reliability Protocol tests
//90% of these motherfarkers would fail HRP change my mind
 
2021-01-22 3:18:03 PM  

alechemist: Has anyone confirmed that reps gave those terrorists tours of the Capital building?


Reps routinely give tours to constituents.  It happens everyday.  The fact that they toured the building while being accompanied by a rep, doesn't confirm anything other than the rep was being courteous to some presumed constituents who happened to be in town for the day.
 
2021-01-22 3:19:32 PM  
This applies to past presidents too, I assume. ???  It should.
 
2021-01-22 3:20:49 PM  

Paddy: Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..

I see the orange mushroom suckers are out in full force again.


Expect a lot more of them to emerge from the woodwork. Now that they are no longer on the defensive of having to defend their Messiah, they can resume their normal threadshiatting activities.
 
2021-01-22 3:24:31 PM  
Yes, take away their security clearances, effectively getting them booted from any committees that review sensitive information, but it should be done as part of an official censure brought against them so the action is well documented and can serve as an example to future congresscritters of the consequences of supporting insurrection. While I'd love to see these clowns expelled it seems that might be blocked by partisan a--holes playing attention whore games.
 
2021-01-22 3:27:08 PM  
It was briefly mentioned in the article, but members of Congress don't need security clearances to receive classified material.
 
2021-01-22 3:27:15 PM  
Hahahahahahaha

No 'Yankee White' for the white supremacists

reality's sense of humor is mire cutting than I had supposed
 
2021-01-22 3:33:27 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Paddy: Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..

I see the orange mushroom suckers are out in full force again.

Expect a lot more of them to emerge from the woodwork. Now that they are no longer on the defensive of having to defend their Messiah, they can resume their normal threadshiatting activities.


I already saw them coming out of their holes in another thread, possibly the "it's day two and 400000 dead" thread or whatever. I farkied a lot of them when they were full of confidence.
One of these guys is actually trying to switch allegiance now. It's pathetic.
 
2021-01-22 3:35:10 PM  

munko: alechemist: Has anyone confirmed that reps gave those terrorists tours of the Capital building?

Reps routinely give tours to constituents.  It happens everyday.  The fact that they toured the building while being accompanied by a rep, doesn't confirm anything other than the rep was being courteous to some presumed constituents who happened to be in town for the day.


Then they should be more than happy to supply names, dates and provide a picture of said tourists. Nothing to hide, right?
 
2021-01-22 3:44:34 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Yes, they're fascists for disallowing fascism. The monsters.
 
2021-01-22 3:45:13 PM  

Lucky LaRue: LoL.. liberals want to codify a purity test... but don't call them fascists, folks..


Uh huh... "purity" but not in the form of bootlicking loyalty like Trump wanted.
Also, I know for a fact that fascism is a right wing exclusive club. Any loud mouthed roaring skull can join.
 
2021-01-22 3:55:21 PM  
We should be talking about giving them ropes not denying them security clearances.

They are tratiors who tried to lead a failed putsch against the duly elected government of the United states.  Hang them until their bone are picked clean and then place their skulls in mortar over the capital entryway Cromwell style!
 
2021-01-22 4:01:25 PM  
Aside from aiding the insurrection, we also need to go BACK to "have you had any contact with a foreign government whose details have not been disclosed?"   Have you or your campaign ever received funds from a foreign country that have not been disclosed and documented?

All of the 4 July travelers to Moscow, etc. should be considered YUGE security risks, for example.

But just because Mueller never followed through with all of the Russian collusion doesn't mean it magically went away.   This ALL needs to be put to an investigative committee.
 
2021-01-22 4:04:56 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: SF-86, question 29.3: "Have you EVER advocated any acts of terrorism or activities designed to overthrow the U.S. Government by force?"

29.4 "Have you EVER been a member of an organization dedicated to the use of violence or force to overthrow
the United States Government, and which engaged in activities to that end with an awareness of the organization's dedication to that end or with the specific intent to further such activities?"

29.5 "Have you EVER been a member of an organization that advocates or practices commission of acts of force or violence to discourage others from exercising their rights under the U.S. Constitution or any state of the United States with the specific intent to further such action?"

29.6 "Have you EVER knowingly engaged in activities designed to overthrow the U.S. Government by force?"

29.7 "Have you EVER associated with anyone involved in activities to further terrorism?"


Goddamn liberal pussy-hat garbage ;)
 
2021-01-22 4:05:34 PM  
Some personal thoughts about the issue of space alien conspiracy theories.

The US government is the higher power that I believe in. This belief is significantly due to the fact that I've been a lifelong fan of the X-Files and all stories about space aliens.

I consider space alien stories to be fairy tales not conspiracy theories. If you go to a physical book store, the shelf with fairy field guides is next to the shelf with space alien field guides.

I'm a big fan of Charles Hall's stories. As far as I can tell, his stories seem to depict the US Airforce positively, I do need to actually get around to reading his books.

Charles Hall's stories overlap in content with the Stargate scifi franchise which was produced due to a collaborative effort with the US Airforce, they approved of every script.

I don't percieve Bob Lazar as hostile to the US government either. The Constitution demands promoting the progress of science. Bob Lazar is hostile to the "stop black people from reading" agenda, which is a fundamentally anti American agenda.

But I'm not in need of a security clearance according to my zenner cards.
 
2021-01-22 4:07:57 PM  

munko: alechemist: Has anyone confirmed that reps gave those terrorists tours of the Capital building?

Reps routinely give tours to constituents.  It happens everyday.  The fact that they toured the building while being accompanied by a rep, doesn't confirm anything other than the rep was being courteous to some presumed constituents who happened to be in town for the day.


During this pandemic? I thought the US Capital was closed to the public long before January 6th, so any "tour" was something pretty exceptional.  I guess we'll find out eventually.
 
2021-01-22 4:14:49 PM  
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2021-01-22 4:21:44 PM  

Kubo: They shouldn't be given security clearances because they are not psychologically fit for them.

When I applied for a security clearance, background checks and psychological fitness was part of the process. Anyone that believes in QAnon bullshiat should be disqualified from the jump.


Are standards perhaps looser for politicians than for people who do actual work?

Also, I'm curious, was there ever a time when believing that Jesus was going to return and end the world Real Soon Now would have got you classified as "nuts" and ineligible for a security clearance?
 
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