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2021-01-22 4:33:10 AM  
first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.
 
2021-01-22 4:34:57 AM  
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2021-01-22 4:35:14 AM  
Them folks seem shocked that there are consequences for seceding from their union.  Take some notes, Wyoming and Texas.

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2021-01-22 4:43:37 AM  
Oh noes! Not me packet of salt and vinegar crisps!! Wot am I supposed to put on me sarnies now?!?
 
2021-01-22 5:04:50 AM  
Who would expect the Irish to get mad over some potatoes being late?
 
2021-01-22 5:06:46 AM  
Nooooooooooooo!

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2021-01-22 5:10:49 AM  
I summon brexit Bevets to tell us all how this is a good and normal thing.
 
2021-01-22 5:16:53 AM  
You know what, I'll blame brexit for this, ruining a perfectly good Irish potato thread with politics.
 
2021-01-22 5:30:52 AM  

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2021-01-22 5:42:41 AM  

Theeng: You know what, I'll blame brexit for this, ruining a perfectly good Irish potato thread with politics.


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2021-01-22 5:43:26 AM  

atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.


Well it wasn't them exporting the few remaining potatoes was the problem, it was them exporting peas, beans, onions, rabbits, salmon, oysters, herring, lard, and honey, while ~ 1 million people died from starvation or typhus.

AND, I might add, the blight came from North America, so you bastards aren't entirely blameless either 🤔
 
2021-01-22 5:45:00 AM  
Chip?  Aren't they called crisps over there?  Or something equally silly.

Funny Brits and their cute terminology.
 
2021-01-22 5:46:10 AM  

atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.


Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine
 
2021-01-22 5:51:04 AM  
Fries or chips?
 
2021-01-22 6:07:16 AM  

Cormee: atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.

Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine


I might be missing something, but wasn't Ireland partitioned about 60 years after the famine?
 
2021-01-22 6:07:46 AM  

yomrfark: Fries or chips?


Chips in the USA,crisps in the UK and Ireland
 
2021-01-22 6:08:42 AM  

Pert: Cormee: atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.

Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

I might be missing something, but wasn't Ireland partitioned about 60 years after the famine?


That's correct
 
2021-01-22 6:13:26 AM  

Cormee: yomrfark: Fries or chips?

Chips in the USA,crisps in the UK and Ireland


Thanks m8
 
2021-01-22 6:13:52 AM  
The chips I used to buy in the UK don't go there anymore, and the vendor's business changed from some London suburb to some Frankfurt suburb.

Welcome to freedom.
 
2021-01-22 6:15:16 AM  

yomrfark: Cormee: yomrfark: Fries or chips?

Chips in the USA,crisps in the UK and Ireland

Thanks m8


:D I'm in Ireland, we mostly say "lad", not m8, with an emphasis on the "a" - laaad
 
2021-01-22 6:56:39 AM  
Chartered Institute of Procurement and Supply

ChIPS?
Weird
 
2021-01-22 6:59:57 AM  
Can someone remind me what the upside of Brexit was?
 
2021-01-22 7:06:24 AM  

Cormee: AND, I might add, the blight came from North America, so you bastards aren't entirely blameless either 🤔


As did the potato....well, central and south america.
 
2021-01-22 7:11:59 AM  
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2021-01-22 7:18:45 AM  

Cormee: yomrfark: Cormee: yomrfark: Fries or chips?

Chips in the USA,crisps in the UK and Ireland

Thanks m8

:D I'm in Ireland, we mostly say "lad", not m8, with an emphasis on the "a" - laaad


Gonna watch the McGregor fight this weekend, Lad?
 
2021-01-22 7:21:13 AM  

optikeye: Cormee: AND, I might add, the blight came from North America, so you bastards aren't entirely blameless either 🤔

As did the potato....well, central and south america.


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2021-01-22 7:22:55 AM  

Cormee: atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.

Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine


it's the republic. the potatoes are going from the republic to northern ireland.
northern ireland is part of britain.
northern ireland voted against brexit.
the english overwhelming voted for brexit, defeating northern ireland.
the english's decision to brexit halted the chip lories going from republic of ireland to northern ireland.

/should i break out a map?
 
2021-01-22 7:38:18 AM  

atlantic_lotion: Cormee: atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.

Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

it's the republic. the potatoes are going from the republic to northern ireland.
northern ireland is part of britain.
northern ireland voted against brexit.
the english overwhelming voted for brexit, defeating northern ireland.
the english's decision to brexit halted the chip lories going from republic of ireland to northern ireland.

/should i break out a map?


No need for a map thanks.

My understanding of this is the crisps were traveling from Great Britain to Northern Ireland. Where are you reading they are coming from RoI?

"HM Revenue and Customs chief executive Jim Harra insisted that because the crisps were destined for shops in Northern Ireland and there was no risk of them entering the EU, there was no requirement to prove their origin."
 
2021-01-22 7:46:23 AM  

Cormee: Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

"

The claim that the Famine did not affect Ulster has been debunked by recent historical research.
Between 1845-51 Ulster's population fell by 340,000, a drop of 15.7% compared with 19.9% for the whole of lreland."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-norther​n​-ireland-34369080
 
2021-01-22 7:49:15 AM  

orbister: Cormee: Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

"The claim that the Famine did not affect Ulster has been debunked by recent historical research.
Between 1845-51 Ulster's population fell by 340,000, a drop of 15.7% compared with 19.9% for the whole of lreland."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern​-ireland-34369080


I never said it didn't affect Ulster, I said they would have been treated better - a claim I think your link supports.
 
2021-01-22 7:49:30 AM  
It's all a plot to prevent decent Protestants from eating God-fearing Walkers and force them to munch on papist Tayto instead.

It's a little known fact that teams of priests consecrate every tenth Tayto crisp so that when you eat one of them you become Catholic and there is nothing you can do about it. Muahahahahahahaha.
 
2021-01-22 7:50:44 AM  

orbister: It's all a plot to prevent decent Protestants from eating God-fearing Walkers and force them to munch on papist Tayto instead.

It's a little known fact that teams of priests consecrate every tenth Tayto crisp so that when you eat one of them you become Catholic and there is nothing you can do about it. Muahahahahahahaha.


That's a North/South divide that will never be bridged
 
2021-01-22 8:07:53 AM  

Cythraul: Chip?  Aren't they called crisps over there?  Or something equally silly.

Funny Brits and their cute terminology..

Hobbitses

 
2021-01-22 8:11:29 AM  
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Don't tell me they've gone and dragged poor Erik Estrada into the Brexit clusterfark victory parade.
 
2021-01-22 8:14:51 AM  

Cormee: optikeye: Cormee: AND, I might add, the blight came from North America, so you bastards aren't entirely blameless either 🤔

As did the potato....well, central and south america.

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Did you know that much like the eskimos had multiple words for types of snow,  the Mayans, had dozens of words to describe a potato. Like Pantha...which describes a potato that's just BIT on the soft side but still good for a soup or stew and not yet sprouting, but should be taken out of the bin with the good potatos.
 
2021-01-22 8:16:29 AM  

Cormee: atlantic_lotion: Cormee: atlantic_lotion: first they blame the english for taking too many potatoes from ireland, now they blame the english for not taking enough! poor english can't catch a break.

Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

it's the republic. the potatoes are going from the republic to northern ireland.
northern ireland is part of britain.
northern ireland voted against brexit.
the english overwhelming voted for brexit, defeating northern ireland.
the english's decision to brexit halted the chip lories going from republic of ireland to northern ireland.

/should i break out a map?

No need for a map thanks.

My understanding of this is the crisps were traveling from Great Britain to Northern Ireland. Where are you reading they are coming from RoI?

"HM Revenue and Customs chief executive Jim Harra insisted that because the crisps were destined for shops in Northern Ireland and there was no risk of them entering the EU, there was no requirement to prove their origin."


seems like you're right. i admit reading comprehension isnt my strong point but now im a bit confused about why they would be driving lorries across the water
 
2021-01-22 8:19:23 AM  

optikeye: Can someone remind me what the upside of Brexit was?


I'm not sure, but I seem to recall something about the color of passports...
 
2021-01-22 8:22:10 AM  
Also, Subbie, "Chip truck" is not the preferred nomenclature. Crisps lorry, please.
 
2021-01-22 8:29:41 AM  

atlantic_lotion: seems like you're right. i admit reading comprehension isnt my strong point but now im a bit confused about why they would be driving lorries across the water


Indeed. I'd imagine you feel like a bit of a tit now, do you, with your whole "/should i break out a map? " addendum?
 
2021-01-22 9:04:47 AM  

optikeye: Cormee: AND, I might add, the blight came from North America, so you bastards aren't entirely blameless either 🤔

As did the potato....well, central and south america.


The potato originated in South America. This pro-potato site says the first permanent plantations in North America didn't happen until 1719.

/But then, it also cites George Crum as the inventor of tatty crisps, so, probably best to take that, like your crisps, with a grain of salt.
 
2021-01-22 9:08:51 AM  

Cormee: orbister: Cormee: Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

"The claim that the Famine did not affect Ulster has been debunked by recent historical research.
Between 1845-51 Ulster's population fell by 340,000, a drop of 15.7% compared with 19.9% for the whole of lreland."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern​-ireland-34369080

I never said it didn't affect Ulster, I said they would have been treated better - a claim I think your link supports.


I see nothing there to suggest that people in Ulster were treated much better than people elsewhere. I suspect that local variation by landlord was more important than north-south.

Did you know, by the way, that the Hebrides and remoter rural mainland of Scotland were hit almost as badly, and that many of the abandoned townships and villages which people attribute to the clearances were actually the result of the potato famine here.
 
2021-01-22 9:29:32 AM  

orbister: Cormee: orbister: Cormee: Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

"The claim that the Famine did not affect Ulster has been debunked by recent historical research.
Between 1845-51 Ulster's population fell by 340,000, a drop of 15.7% compared with 19.9% for the whole of lreland."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern​-ireland-34369080

I never said it didn't affect Ulster, I said they would have been treated better - a claim I think your link supports.

I see nothing there to suggest that people in Ulster were treated much better than people elsewhere. I suspect that local variation by landlord was more important than north-south.

Did you know, by the way, that the Hebrides and remoter rural mainland of Scotland were hit almost as badly, and that many of the abandoned townships and villages which people attribute to the clearances were actually the result of the potato famine here.


Well let's put it this way - they were treated 4.2% better, which when you're dealing with a million deaths, or say ~ 250,000 per province,  adds up to a quite a few saved lives.

I didn't know that about Scotland, no, but with Scotland so close to Northern Ireland it was probably inevitable it would reach there. I wonder why it didn't spread further south.
 
2021-01-22 9:30:59 AM  

yomrfark: Cormee: yomrfark: Cormee: yomrfark: Fries or chips?

Chips in the USA,crisps in the UK and Ireland

Thanks m8

:D I'm in Ireland, we mostly say "lad", not m8, with an emphasis on the "a" - laaad

Gonna watch the McGregor fight this weekend, Lad?


No, lad, I can't stand the rapey bastard, I hope he gets the hole kicked off himself. Mouthy little farker like him.
 
2021-01-22 9:52:09 AM  

orbister: Cormee: Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

"The claim that the Famine did not affect Ulster has been debunked by recent historical research.
Between 1845-51 Ulster's population fell by 340,000, a drop of 15.7% compared with 19.9% for the whole of lreland."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern​-ireland-34369080


There was no famine. A famine is the absence of food. There was a potato blight but was plenty of other food stuffs. The Brits took it all.
 
2021-01-22 9:54:04 AM  
The fun has definitely gone out of pointing out the sheer insanity, selfishness, bigotry and ignorance behind every Brexit supporter and their actions when it all becomes a hard coded fact.

/And when they refuse to play "bait the bigot".
 
2021-01-22 10:11:22 AM  

groverpm: orbister: Cormee: Also, it's Northern Ireland, not the Republic. They would have been looked after a lot better during the Famine

"The claim that the Famine did not affect Ulster has been debunked by recent historical research.
Between 1845-51 Ulster's population fell by 340,000, a drop of 15.7% compared with 19.9% for the whole of lreland."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern​-ireland-34369080

There was no famine. A famine is the absence of food. There was a potato blight but was plenty of other food stuffs. The Brits took it all.


Took it? Like at gun point?
Or the people with the food just sold it to them like good capitalists and FU poors?
 
2021-01-22 10:13:04 AM  

Cormee: atlantic_lotion: seems like you're right. i admit reading comprehension isnt my strong point but now im a bit confused about why they would be driving lorries across the water

Indeed. I'd imagine you feel like a bit of a tit now, do you, with your whole "/should i break out a map? " addendum?


in real life sure but here on the internet, i entirely lack either remorse or self-awareness
 
2021-01-22 10:26:21 AM  

atlantic_lotion: Cormee: atlantic_lotion: seems like you're right. i admit reading comprehension isnt my strong point but now im a bit confused about why they would be driving lorries across the water

Indeed. I'd imagine you feel like a bit of a tit now, do you, with your whole "/should i break out a map? " addendum?

in real life sure but here on the internet, i entirely lack either remorse or self-awareness


Fair point
👍
 
2021-01-22 10:26:59 AM  

Cormee: Well let's put it this way - they were treated 4.2% better, which when you're dealing with a million deaths, or say ~ 250,000 per province, adds up to a quite a few saved lives.

I didn't know that about Scotland, no, but with Scotland so close to Northern Ireland it was probably inevitable it would reach there. I wonder why it didn't spread further south.


I suspect that the different depopulation rates may be because the north was more urbanised, but it is certainly possible that proddies were treated nicer than the left-footers.

My bit in the south-west suffered, but of course it was much easier to move around here. On the islands, much like Ireland, you either stayed and died or you went for good and lived.

Of all the shameful episodes of British history - and we're not exactly short of them - I think the Irish famine is the most obscenely horrifying.
 
2021-01-22 10:29:38 AM  

groverpm: There was no famine. A famine is the absence of food. There was a potato blight but was plenty of other food stuffs. The Brits took it all.


It's complicated. You'll find a good introductory summary at https://www.historyireland.com/18th-1​9​th-century-history/food-exports-from-i​reland-1846-47/
 
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