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2021-01-21 10:44:01 AM  

Chinesenookiefactory: How DARE you speak poorly of the magical herb!!


Dude, I hate to break it to you, but we've been spoiled by cannabevits and expect a much higher standard of, let's call it "alternative opining".
 
2021-01-21 10:44:33 AM  

orbister: Chinesenookiefactory: How DARE you speak poorly of the magical herb!!

Whenever one of these threads comes up, full of Farkers insisting that cannabis use must never be criticised (for the record I think it should be legal) and how it helps them with their vague symptoms of something or other, I remember that ten years ago Farm was full of Farkers furiously defending oxycontin and other opioids as essential treatments for the vague aches and pains they imagined they would otherwise have.


Dunno about poisonous pharmaceuticals but weed's effect on creativity and creative process is staggering. I consider it essential.
 
2021-01-21 10:45:29 AM  

Rapmaster2000: we need to educate parents and kids that there are risks involved, particularly with heavy and high potency cannabis use,"

Lucky kids.  We only had ditchweed in my day.


I'll take it over the ametuer-grade crap being peddled now. Not even joking, I've never been couch-locked from that "legal shiat" no matter how much I smoke. Munchies are super-rare too.

/anyone else here have even less of an appetite after smoking?
 
2021-01-21 10:47:09 AM  
Entire quote from TFA that submitter butchered:   "A person is considered dependent on weed when they feel food cravings or a lack of appetite, irritability, restlessness and mood and sleep difficulties after quitting, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse."

Jake Havechek: Opioids are safe as milk though, that's what old people and doctors getting kickbacks from drug companies tell me.


If you're arguing that weed is safer than opioids, I'd tend to concur with you.  That's kind of a low bar to set, though.
 
2021-01-21 10:47:36 AM  

orbister: I remember that ten years ago Farm was full of Farkers furiously defending oxycontin


I don't remember that at all.  I was high at the time.
 
2021-01-21 10:47:38 AM  

orbister: Chinesenookiefactory: How DARE you speak poorly of the magical herb!!

Whenever one of these threads comes up, full of Farkers insisting that cannabis use must never be criticised (for the record I think it should be legal) and how it helps them with their vague symptoms of something or other, I remember that ten years ago Farm was full of Farkers furiously defending oxycontin and other opioids as essential treatments for the vague aches and pains they imagined they would otherwise have.


Eh, medical marijuana has always mostly been a bunch of bullshiat, but pot's always been a much safer, and frankly less exciting, drug than its detractors like to pretend.
 
2021-01-21 10:48:39 AM  

orbister: Chinesenookiefactory: How DARE you speak poorly of the magical herb!!

Whenever one of these threads comes up, full of Farkers insisting that cannabis use must never be criticised (for the record I think it should be legal) and how it helps them with their vague symptoms of something or other, I remember that ten years ago Farm was full of Farkers furiously defending oxycontin and other opioids as essential treatments for the vague aches and pains they imagined they would otherwise have.


That's a farking lie.  It was discovered early on that oxycontin could be chopped up and snorted as "hillbilly heroin".  The only assholes that claimed it was harmless was crooked doctors and pharmaceutical companies.
 
2021-01-21 10:49:12 AM  

Jake Havechek: Why is it that you can make fun of pot smokers but not alcoholics on this site?



You haven't been on FARK long, the alcoholics here make fun of themselves.
 
2021-01-21 10:49:41 AM  
way-duh-minnut... borit *is* Subby!?
 
2021-01-21 10:49:58 AM  

tirob: Entire quote from TFA that submitter butchered:   "A person is considered dependent on weed when they feel food cravings or a lack of appetite, irritability, restlessness and mood and sleep difficulties after quitting, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse."

Jake Havechek: Opioids are safe as milk though, that's what old people and doctors getting kickbacks from drug companies tell me.

If you're arguing that weed is safer than opioids, I'd tend to concur with you.  That's kind of a low bar to set, though.


Yes I am arguing with that, and don't post to me, you're a tiresome bore and barely educated.
 
2021-01-21 10:50:23 AM  

Heliodorus: Jake Havechek: Why is it that you can make fun of pot smokers but not alcoholics on this site?


You haven't been on FARK long, the alcoholics here make fun of themselves.


Yup.  Even those of us in recovery.

/drucking funks.
 
2021-01-21 10:50:31 AM  
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2021-01-21 10:50:31 AM  

b0rscht: What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).


This. Right here. Practically everything recreational is maximizing THC without any care about the others. Amateurs.
 
2021-01-21 10:51:25 AM  

Promo Sapien: Pocket Ninja: Just remember that after you smoke a bowl, it's critically important that you only *sip* the bong water, not gulp it. Bong water retains very high levels of THC, so while consuming it is an important part of spiking your high and also decreasing side effects such as cotton mouth, you don't want to overdo it.

I've been doing it wrong.

[TRIES POCKET NINJA'S METHOD, THROWS UP]

Apparently, I did that wrong, as well.


Bong water enema
 
2021-01-21 10:51:37 AM  
Stibium:

/anyone else here have even less of an appetite after smoking?

I vape but yeah, many strains actually suppress the appetite. I sometimes have the anti-munchies. It's werid. When I was younger I definitely can remember getting the munchies (then again, I was always drinking beer as well).

It's fascinating to me that the endocannabinoid system was only discovered in 1992. Your body makes some wicked strong cannabinoids. Your body wants weed.
 
2021-01-21 10:52:35 AM  
Yo, folks.  tirob is at 202 links approved right now.  Watch it be 203 when the next weed thread is greened.
 
2021-01-21 10:53:03 AM  
Canada here, laughing....(I keed)

Now when I smoke, there is no heart racing paranoia, being y'know, legal and stuff.

But, here is the weird thing.  It's kinda not as fun now.  That was something I did not see coming.

Munchies, same.  The high from legal weed is the same too, although I do spend a bit extra for the good kind.
 
2021-01-21 10:54:26 AM  

Stibium: b0rscht: What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

This. Right here. Practically everything recreational is maximizing THC without any care about the others. Amateurs.


The nice thing is, however, you can go online and buy a friggin pound of nice outdoor grown high CBD hemp for half of what an ounce of high delta-9 THC weed costs in Illinois, and mix it in with the strong stuff to get a bit of that nice entourage and less icepick to the forehead of smoking the "everclear weed" straight.

/I prefer beer weed to everclear weed
 
2021-01-21 10:57:28 AM  
This article is one of the many reasons CNN went from one of my favorite news sources to one that I try to avoid now.

I clicked on it this time because of the fark headline and sure enough, it's choc full of bs.

Don't waste any more time on it. It's just alarmist filler.
 
2021-01-21 10:57:45 AM  

b0rscht: Forget cravings; there are many well known withdrawal effects from heavy usage (the super high THC / low CBD stuff that is so common these days). Appetite: farked. Sleeping: farked; lots of night sweats; if you really push it you can get CHS (Cannabinoid Hyperemisis Syndrome) which is very rare but involves cyclic vomiting, and a sensitivity to THC that pretty much makes you never able to use it again.


So you're saying it's a self-correcting problem?
 
2021-01-21 11:00:32 AM  

BrerRobot: Science, Facts, Logic:

If the first bowl is good enough, you'll forget to light that second one you just packed.

Therefore, smoking weed makes you not smoke weed.

[Fark user image 247x204]


Except when it makes you forget you already smoked a bowl so you pack and smoke another.

Therefore, smoking weed can either make you smoke weed or make you not smoke weed.
 
2021-01-21 11:04:23 AM  

born_yesterday: darwinpolice: Jake Havechek: What about all the freaks popping Xanax like candy because their headshrinker diagnosed them with "anxiety".

A shrink prescribed Xanax for me back in the day. It sure helped with anxiety, but I stopped using it very quickly. I liked the feeling it gave me WAY too much and I could easily see myself overusing it. No benzos for me, thanks.

Xanax doesn't work for me in that it doesn't get rid of the anxiety, but just intoxicates me so that my normal filters get removed. So I was still anxious/ depressed, but now I'm mouthy.


Exactly. Which makes sense, considering that benzos are similar to alcohol in terms of effect on neurotransmitters.
 
2021-01-21 11:04:25 AM  

SansNeural: way-duh-minnut... borit *is* Subby!?


If the reference is to me, no, I didn't submit this.

Jake Havechek: tirob: Entire quote from TFA that submitter butchered:   "A person is considered dependent on weed when they feel food cravings or a lack of appetite, irritability, restlessness and mood and sleep difficulties after quitting, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse."

Jake Havechek: Opioids are safe as milk though, that's what old people and doctors getting kickbacks from drug companies tell me.

If you're arguing that weed is safer than opioids, I'd tend to concur with you.  That's kind of a low bar to set, though.

Yes I am arguing with that, and don't post to me, you're a tiresome bore and barely educated.


If you persist in posting moronic observations such as the one you just published, you should expect me to reply to them.  I have more education than you think, btw.
 
2021-01-21 11:04:49 AM  
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yeah it's the weed that makes them suicidal
 
2021-01-21 11:04:51 AM  
As it turns out, kids with mental disorders tend to try drugs at a higher rate as a form of self - medication.

Correlation =/= causation.
 
2021-01-21 11:05:07 AM  

ingo: BrerRobot: Science, Facts, Logic:

If the first bowl is good enough, you'll forget to light that second one you just packed.

Therefore, smoking weed makes you not smoke weed.

[Fark user image 247x204]

Except when it makes you forget you already smoked a bowl so you pack and smoke another.

Therefore, smoking weed can either make you smoke weed or make you not smoke weed.


Not gonna lie, it's an awesome feeling when you suddenly "discover" a fresh bowl.
 
2021-01-21 11:06:26 AM  

Noxious1: Fearmongering weed in 2021?
Really?!? fark off, CNN.


What is sad is that it was CNN, in the person of Sanjay Gupta, who fired the definitive volleys that gave gravitas to the activism to legalize weed. See:
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Why I changed my mind about marijuana
Youtube _0ojs3AFono


Also see YouTube videos "Weed" Parts 1, 2, 3, and 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdQ2q​4​tWCjw
 
2021-01-21 11:10:11 AM  

Stibium: b0rscht: What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

This. Right here. Practically everything recreational is maximizing THC without any care about the others. Amateurs.


MD lists the cannabinoids and terpines for each strain for sale.  Really helps picking the good weed from bad.  And yeah, it's the 30% THC stuff that sells out first without regards to other considerations.

Michigan does not list them for their recreational and it sucked.  Can't tell good or great from average based on THC alone.
 
2021-01-21 11:10:15 AM  

Chinesenookiefactory: How DARE you speak poorly of the magical herb!!


What WOULD you do it it came out that Trump is a secret total toker?
 
2021-01-21 11:14:34 AM  

orbister: So, subby, do you think that only one of anorexia and bulimia can exist as an eating disorder? Do you think that only one of hypothermia and hyperthermia matters? That it has to be mania or depression, not both?

"masks don't work" & "don't deprive health workers of masks they need"

 
2021-01-21 11:16:14 AM  

orbister: Chinesenookiefactory: How DARE you speak poorly of the magical herb!!

Whenever one of these threads comes up, full of Farkers insisting that cannabis use must never be criticised (for the record I think it should be legal) and how it helps them with their vague symptoms of something or other, I remember that ten years ago Farm was full of Farkers furiously defending oxycontin and other opioids as essential treatments for the vague aches and pains they imagined they would otherwise have.

"masks don't work" & "don't deprive health workers of masks they need"

 
2021-01-21 11:19:15 AM  

b0rscht: lifeslammer: And yet you can cold turkey stop weed any time you want, with no cravings at all

Ackshuallllyyyy.......

Forget cravings; there are many well known withdrawal effects from heavy usage (the super high THC / low CBD stuff that is so common these days). Appetite: farked. Sleeping: farked; lots of night sweats; if you really push it you can get CHS (Cannabinoid Hyperemisis Syndrome) which is very rare but involves cyclic vomiting, and a sensitivity to THC that pretty much makes you never able to use it again.

Look I use the stuff every day - mostly CBD and delta-8 THC - not all cannabis is the same. But people who spend their day sucking on vape pens with 80% THC - you're gonna have withdrawal if you stop cold turkey and your tolerance is going to be heroic and that is not a good thing. That's just life and it's a hell of a lot different than the 'cravings and withdrawal' you get from quitting your Mexican brick weed habit from the mid 1990s.

I seriously will rejoice the day it's completely legalized in the US (looks like I'll live to see that day after all) but let's not all pretend weed is harmless. Yes, decades of refer madness bullshiat have poisoned the well. Let the scientists figure it out, we typically are good that that kind of thing. What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

And against my better judgment I'll refer to a reddit site where you can see how people really are suffering from their cannabis abuse: r/leaves


And yet right before the covid thing all started back in march I had tolerance so high i was vaping a gram in a couple days and only feeling it for a few hours. Had none of the withdrawal you claim exists. The only thing that really happened was letting my brain return to the normal passage of time instead of "holy fark, how have i been sitting here for 5 hours"
 
2021-01-21 11:20:06 AM  

b0rscht: lifeslammer: And yet you can cold turkey stop weed any time you want, with no cravings at all

Ackshuallllyyyy.......

Forget cravings; there are many well known withdrawal effects from heavy usage (the super high THC / low CBD stuff that is so common these days). Appetite: farked. Sleeping: farked; lots of night sweats; if you really push it you can get CHS (Cannabinoid Hyperemisis Syndrome) which is very rare but involves cyclic vomiting, and a sensitivity to THC that pretty much makes you never able to use it again.

Look I use the stuff every day - mostly CBD and delta-8 THC - not all cannabis is the same. But people who spend their day sucking on vape pens with 80% THC - you're gonna have withdrawal if you stop cold turkey and your tolerance is going to be heroic and that is not a good thing. That's just life and it's a hell of a lot different than the 'cravings and withdrawal' you get from quitting your Mexican brick weed habit from the mid 1990s.

I seriously will rejoice the day it's completely legalized in the US (looks like I'll live to see that day after all) but let's not all pretend weed is harmless. Yes, decades of refer madness bullshiat have poisoned the well. Let the scientists figure it out, we typically are good that that kind of thing. What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

And against my better judgment I'll refer to a reddit site where you can see how people really are suffering from their cannabis abuse: r/leaves


not so csb

I met my spouse when we were in our teens and he was a heavy pot smoker then. After our toddler wandered into the living room carrying a bong sloshing dirty water he decided to quit (plus money was tight and it wasn't legal, etc).  He was a grumpy bastard for months.
Years passed and, hey, our kid discovered weed! The two of them bonded over that.
Shortly after our state legalized medical weed viola! my spouse discovered, thanks to a clinic with a Dr who spent the hour exam discussing his belief in bigfoot, he has an arthritic knee.

He's quite gleeful about it being legal, never dreamed of having a card and an account and a shop that gives him swag and all the newest forms of imbibing. He's there every week and spends freely. He is high all day, every day and vapes in the car and at work.
At home he sits in front of the tv, sound off, for hours. Weekends he hardly moves. Sundays he tends to pick fights over the things *I* haven't gotten done. He's mostly stopped eating and after many years his sleep apnea has returned. He swears this has nothing to do with vaping.

I'm all for legal weed and understand there are plenty of people who use it responsibly and for legitimate reasons.  However, when someone you know changes their entire life and admits there is no way they are going to be able to go even one day a week without it it's hard to agree there is no such thing as weed dependency.

To each their own, I guess.
 
2021-01-21 11:20:44 AM  

darwinpolice: born_yesterday: darwinpolice: Jake Havechek: What about all the freaks popping Xanax like candy because their headshrinker diagnosed them with "anxiety".

A shrink prescribed Xanax for me back in the day. It sure helped with anxiety, but I stopped using it very quickly. I liked the feeling it gave me WAY too much and I could easily see myself overusing it. No benzos for me, thanks.

Xanax doesn't work for me in that it doesn't get rid of the anxiety, but just intoxicates me so that my normal filters get removed. So I was still anxious/ depressed, but now I'm mouthy.

Exactly. Which makes sense, considering that benzos are similar to alcohol in terms of effect on neurotransmitters.


They switched me to an antihistamine that has anti-anxiety effects and is non-addictive.  Because it's non-addictive, my MD will prescribe them freely, rather than getting ten Xanax and being told to space them out over three months (leading to, "is this acute panic attack bad enough to take a Xanax?  Let's panic about it).

And on the bright side, my sinuses stay cleared up and I sleep like a baby.
 
2021-01-21 11:22:04 AM  

tirob: Entire quote from TFA that submitter butchered:   "A person is considered dependent on weed when they feel food cravings or a lack of appetite, irritability, restlessness and mood and sleep difficulties after quitting, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse."

Jake Havechek: Opioids are safe as milk though, that's what old people and doctors getting kickbacks from drug companies tell me.

If you're arguing that weed is safer than opioids, I'd tend to concur with you.  That's kind of a low bar to set, though.


You might want to consult a good English textbook as to the meaning and use of ellipses. What subby did was NOT butcher the quote, but highlight the critical part of it by leaving out the camouflage filler designed to distract the reader from the "heads I win tails you lose" thesis of the paragraph.

Thanks for playing. Took you long enough to get here. I wonder why?
 
2021-01-21 11:25:10 AM  

born_yesterday: Stibium: b0rscht: What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

This. Right here. Practically everything recreational is maximizing THC without any care about the others. Amateurs.

MD lists the cannabinoids and terpines for each strain for sale.  Really helps picking the good weed from bad.  And yeah, it's the 30% THC stuff that sells out first without regards to other considerations.

Michigan does not list them for their recreational and it sucked.  Can't tell good or great from average based on THC alone.


The unfortunate thing is that I'm not in a recreational state, so whatever is out there is whatever you can get, which is likely to be the cheapest crap to pad the profits.

You know, stuff with zero sticky and burns like gasoline-soaked tissue paper. Complete waste of money and the illicit trade is probably the only thing keeping companies that sell it afloat. "Stick it in front of the heater! We got quotas to make!"
 
2021-01-21 11:25:35 AM  

buster_v: Lots of defensive posters in this thread today.

A hit dog will yelp.


So will the stupid dog next door, apparently.

This is another brilliant example of the scientific studies designed to discourage use of this evil drug. These seminal works started with the famous and still indisputable finding that weed will make white women want to bang Negro jazz musicians.

I particularly liked the assertion that weed use can lead to fatal overdoses.  "Unintentional overdoses, suicide and homicide were the three most frequent causes of death,"

Solid scientific work there.
 
2021-01-21 11:28:06 AM  

lifeslammer: b0rscht: lifeslammer: And yet you can cold turkey stop weed any time you want, with no cravings at all

Ackshuallllyyyy.......

Forget cravings; there are many well known withdrawal effects from heavy usage (the super high THC / low CBD stuff that is so common these days). Appetite: farked. Sleeping: farked; lots of night sweats; if you really push it you can get CHS (Cannabinoid Hyperemisis Syndrome) which is very rare but involves cyclic vomiting, and a sensitivity to THC that pretty much makes you never able to use it again.

Look I use the stuff every day - mostly CBD and delta-8 THC - not all cannabis is the same. But people who spend their day sucking on vape pens with 80% THC - you're gonna have withdrawal if you stop cold turkey and your tolerance is going to be heroic and that is not a good thing. That's just life and it's a hell of a lot different than the 'cravings and withdrawal' you get from quitting your Mexican brick weed habit from the mid 1990s.

I seriously will rejoice the day it's completely legalized in the US (looks like I'll live to see that day after all) but let's not all pretend weed is harmless. Yes, decades of refer madness bullshiat have poisoned the well. Let the scientists figure it out, we typically are good that that kind of thing. What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

And against my better judgment I'll refer to a reddit site where you can see how people really are suffering from their cannabis abuse: r/leaves

And yet right before the covid thing all started back in march I had tolerance so high i was vaping a gram in a couple days


A gram in a couple days? How did you survive such a heroic consumption rate?
 
2021-01-21 11:28:20 AM  

waxbeans: I was suicidal as a teen. And. I'm sure weed is why I stopped being suicidal during my teens.

ALSO.
I think If I had had weed in my 20s I would have not started doing cocaine.
Maybe.
All I know is beer is enough now a days.


Meh, I knew unfortunate amounts of people that smoked pot that also did cocaine. They're not unrelated. I never want to try cocaine, so your klickometers may vary.
 
2021-01-21 11:32:04 AM  

Stibium: ingo: BrerRobot: Science, Facts, Logic:

If the first bowl is good enough, you'll forget to light that second one you just packed.

Therefore, smoking weed makes you not smoke weed.

[Fark user image 247x204]

Except when it makes you forget you already smoked a bowl so you pack and smoke another.

Therefore, smoking weed can either make you smoke weed or make you not smoke weed.

Not gonna lie, it's an awesome feeling when you suddenly "discover" a fresh bowl.


LOL, that happened to me about a year ago (just before I stopped smoking anything due to Covid). I had two glass pipes and loaded both, since it was the last of the stash. Promptly forgot I'd loaded both and was sad I was out, then discovered the 2nd pipe.
 
2021-01-21 11:33:35 AM  
I've wondered about that. Here at work I often see "cannabis dependence" or "cannabis abuse" in the history and wonder exactly what uptight narc wrote that
 
2021-01-21 11:35:00 AM  
Doing something to excess may be bad for you.
Well I'm shocked.
 
2021-01-21 11:35:05 AM  

mmojo: I took my first bong hit at 5am. I will do my last right before I go to bed. I will do many in between all day and all night long. I do this every single day and have for many years. It's like Popeye's spinach to me. No problems to report. So far so good.


This
 
2021-01-21 11:35:08 AM  

Nurglitch: waxbeans: I was suicidal as a teen. And. I'm sure weed is why I stopped being suicidal during my teens.

ALSO.
I think If I had had weed in my 20s I would have not started doing cocaine.
Maybe.
All I know is beer is enough now a days.

Meh, I knew unfortunate amounts of people that smoked pot that also did cocaine. They're not unrelated. I never want to try cocaine, so your klickometers may vary.


Definitely.

Every once in a while a cigarette will make me able to get up and wash dishes. A pack will last a year. Hell. I've had the same 3 smokes since February of last year. Smoked on last night. The dishes was piling up.

The way I react to different drugs legal and recreational has me convinced I have some kind of chemical imbalance.

Full completely sober makes me feel odd. And then I have a panic attack. AND the really odd thing is sometimes I don't even have to ingest the beer for the panic attack to go away just buying it makes it go away.
 
2021-01-21 11:39:25 AM  

Fano: I've wondered about that. Here at work I often see "cannabis dependence" or "cannabis abuse" in the history and wonder exactly what uptight narc wrote that


Probably someone who missed the era when everyone was doing cocaine and insisting it wasn't addictive or when we were all insisting cigarettes were good for you.

We all hop on board a trend, discover things and adjust our behaviors based on experience and risk.

There is such a thing as cannabis dependence but apparently if it doesn't come with severe physical withdrawal symptoms or a need for detox it doesn't count.

As a culture we have to keep rediscovering "moderation is key".

Some is good rarely means more is even better.
 
2021-01-21 11:40:07 AM  

Harlee: tirob: Entire quote from TFA that submitter butchered:   "A person is considered dependent on weed when they feel food cravings or a lack of appetite, irritability, restlessness and mood and sleep difficulties after quitting, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse."

Jake Havechek: Opioids are safe as milk though, that's what old people and doctors getting kickbacks from drug companies tell me.

If you're arguing that weed is safer than opioids, I'd tend to concur with you.  That's kind of a low bar to set, though.

You might want to consult a good English textbook as to the meaning and use of ellipses. What subby did was NOT butcher the quote, but highlight the critical part of it by leaving out the camouflage filler designed to distract the reader from the "heads I win tails you lose" thesis of the paragraph.


Submitter *removed* the critical part of the quote; leaving the quote intact would have put the balance of it in its context.

In any case, the quote is only tangential to the point of TFA that subby missed, which is that the researchers noted a correlation between heavy weed use by vulnerable young people and bad outcomes including attempts at suicide.

FTFA, and by way of additional evidence:  "Studies in adults show a strong association between overuse of weed and suicide attempts and death. A study of adult same-sex twins found those who were dependent on marijuana were nearly three times more likely to attempt suicide than their twin who was not dependent on weed.

Another study of 1,463 suicides and 7,392 natural deaths in the United States found a link between any use of marijuana by adults and suicide risk after adjusting for alcohol use, depression and use of mental health services. And there was an increased risk of suicide for both men and women who were dependent on marijuana, according to a four-year study of 6,445 Danish adults."

Links to the relevant studies are embedded in TFA.
 
2021-01-21 11:42:42 AM  
I am happy doing only doctor authorized/prescribed medicines including alcohol (none) and medical marijuana. With costs in the past few years coming down, I am able to do about the equivalent of 4.5 ounces of flower a month for around $300. 1 ounce flower to smoke and 0.5 ounce flower to make edibles with both bought at a dispensary for a total of $150, and the equivalent of about 3 ounces of flower in 14 grams of BHO wax which I get off dark markets for 1/6th the dispensary price at $150.
 
2021-01-21 11:43:25 AM  

parasol: b0rscht: lifeslammer: And yet you can cold turkey stop weed any time you want, with no cravings at all

Ackshuallllyyyy.......

Forget cravings; there are many well known withdrawal effects from heavy usage (the super high THC / low CBD stuff that is so common these days). Appetite: farked. Sleeping: farked; lots of night sweats; if you really push it you can get CHS (Cannabinoid Hyperemisis Syndrome) which is very rare but involves cyclic vomiting, and a sensitivity to THC that pretty much makes you never able to use it again.

Look I use the stuff every day - mostly CBD and delta-8 THC - not all cannabis is the same. But people who spend their day sucking on vape pens with 80% THC - you're gonna have withdrawal if you stop cold turkey and your tolerance is going to be heroic and that is not a good thing. That's just life and it's a hell of a lot different than the 'cravings and withdrawal' you get from quitting your Mexican brick weed habit from the mid 1990s.

I seriously will rejoice the day it's completely legalized in the US (looks like I'll live to see that day after all) but let's not all pretend weed is harmless. Yes, decades of refer madness bullshiat have poisoned the well. Let the scientists figure it out, we typically are good that that kind of thing. What I'd personally like to see are more cannabinoids in my weed (more CBD, CBC, CBN, CBG) in addition to delta-9 THC. The entourage effect is real and it also really makes for a better overall experience (and fewer side effects / withdrawals).

And against my better judgment I'll refer to a reddit site where you can see how people really are suffering from their cannabis abuse: r/leaves

not so csb

I met my spouse when we were in our teens and he was a heavy pot smoker then. After our toddler wandered into the living room carrying a bong sloshing dirty water he decided to quit (plus money was tight and it wasn't legal, etc).  He was a grumpy bastard for months.
Years passed and, hey, our kid discovered w ...


You could have just said "I married and asshole and want to blame weed."
 
2021-01-21 11:45:05 AM  
Kids that are depressed or bipolar who also use a substance illegal for them to acquire or consume might be at higher risk for suicide.

Wow, you're probably right, it's not like they showed any signs of poor impulse control, it's totes the weed.

/I'm going to double down on my stance that children should not use marijuana unless medically necessary.
 
2021-01-21 11:47:08 AM  
So that's where we are at a day after Trump?  Back to dubious marijuana science.  JFC.
 
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