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(Slate)   President Biden is wasting no time in cleaning house, fires three of Trump's appointees within hours of taking office   (slate.com) divider line
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2021-01-20 11:54:23 PM  
It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.
 
2021-01-21 12:28:11 AM  
I'm guessing that this is what Biden's first 100 days are gonna look like.  Firing incompetent appointees from the last administration, reversing shiatty policies from the last administration, and prosecuting the criminal behavior of the last administration.
 
2021-01-21 12:33:04 AM  

NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.


Not sure he's able to do that.
 
2021-01-21 1:57:06 AM  

kudayta: I'm guessing that this is what Biden's first 100 days are gonna look like.  Firing incompetent appointees from the last administration, reversing shiatty policies from the last administration, and prosecuting the criminal behavior of the last administration.


Sounds good to me.  Get that moron out  of the post office, next.
 
2021-01-21 2:06:21 AM  

browneye: NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.

Not sure he's able to do that.


Yeah, pretty certain the Former Presidents Act prevents that from happening.
 
2021-01-21 3:02:15 AM  
Gonna be a lot of resumes getting updated this year, with chunks of time being put down as "joined the Peace Corps" or "took time for personal reflection and development."
 
2021-01-21 3:09:44 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: browneye: NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.

Not sure he's able to do that.

Yeah, pretty certain the Former Presidents Act prevents that from happening.


Yep.
Plus, if something does actually happen to them during the six months of protection; at least we can say we tried...
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2021-01-21 6:08:43 AM  

hubiestubert: Gonna be a lot of resumes getting updated this year, with chunks of time being put down as "joined the Peace Corps" or "took time for personal reflection and development."


I'm reminded of the first Episode of Lou Grant. He's going to meet the publisher of the newspaper, and Mason Adams' character says something like: "She hates television, so don't tell her you worked in it."
Alarmed, Grant says "what should I say I did?"
"Tell her you were in jail."
 
2021-01-21 6:14:35 AM  
Biden doesn't have to rescind the Secret Service protection for Ivanka, half-scoop, and ImEric - in fact he should assure their details will protect the last family from any and all media attention for as long as it takes.
 
2021-01-21 7:20:23 AM  
What about that dim bulb who held up the transition and lied for Trump re the FBI headquarters?
 
2021-01-21 7:22:04 AM  

hubiestubert: Gonna be a lot of resumes getting updated this year, with chunks of time being put down as "joined the Peace Corps" or "took time for personal reflection and development."


"In prison Jan 2017-Jan 2021"
 
2021-01-21 7:24:27 AM  
It really is sad that we are ushering in a new age of prosperity and actual adults running the country.  But nothing can really be done until all the damage and stupidity and corruption from the last administration is swept away.

Gotta start somewhere...
 
2021-01-21 7:24:55 AM  
Who's next?

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2021-01-21 7:24:59 AM  

PaulRB: kudayta: I'm guessing that this is what Biden's first 100 days are gonna look like.  Firing incompetent appointees from the last administration, reversing shiatty policies from the last administration, and prosecuting the criminal behavior of the last administration.

Sounds good to me.  Get that moron out  of the post office, next.


No kidding.  The USPS is fubar.  I use a bill paying service from my Credit Union and my ISP has not received payment which was due to arrive on 12/29.

FOLKS -- THIS IS HOW THE SWAMP IS DRAINED!
 
2021-01-21 7:26:34 AM  
When you're left with a hstable with horse apples piled nearly to your knees because the previous people did farkall except sell drugs from the place, you have no real option but to first start shovelling to get rid bof all the shiat.
 
2021-01-21 7:26:41 AM  
Need to get these toxic Trumpers out ASAP -- at this point, they will probably be trying to sabotage their departments as much as they can before they get thrown out.
 
2021-01-21 7:28:00 AM  
The last line of the article sums the effort up nicely:

"...simply replacing Trump's lackeys with qualified civil servants eager to do the job right."

Instead of having a head of the EPA who wants to make polluting easier, a NLRB chief who wants to quash unions, or a CRPB head that wants to make it easier to cheat Americans - especially vets.

I've missed this, so much.
 
2021-01-21 7:28:37 AM  

olderbudnoweiser: Who's next?

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Better be next.

/Can he?
 
2021-01-21 7:28:47 AM  
Wow. Today I checked the news actually looking forward to finding out what the president is up to. It's a good feeling.
 
2021-01-21 7:28:49 AM  

0MGWTFBBQ: Need to get these toxic Trumpers out ASAP -- at this point, they will probably be trying to sabotage their departments as much as they can before they get thrown out.


I don't think there's any probably about it.
 
2021-01-21 7:29:10 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: browneye: NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.

Not sure he's able to do that.

Yeah, pretty certain the Former Presidents Act prevents that from happening.


IAMAL and all I did was read the Former Presidents Act WIKI page.  But it looks like the law only provides Secret Service protection for Donny, Melania and Baron.  If the rest of the Trump cabal want security protection, they should pay for it themselves.  If they don't want to pay for security then they shouldn't be assholes.
 
2021-01-21 7:29:44 AM  

NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.


and make sure every secret service agent ever assigned to trump is a black or latino woman.


"Hey look! Macho man needs a GIRL to protect him!!!!!"

/I know female secret service agent are fully capable
//But it would but the shiat out of trump
 
2021-01-21 7:29:57 AM  
I may have missed it, but I assume that douche in charge of the FCC has been sent packing...
 
2021-01-21 7:30:48 AM  

NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.


If he does that and one of them gets whacked, that could be bad PR.
 
2021-01-21 7:30:50 AM  

kudayta: I'm guessing that this is what Biden's first 100 days are gonna look like.  Firing incompetent appointees from the last administration, reversing shiatty policies from the last administration, and prosecuting the criminal behavior of the last administration.


I sure hope so.

/ This town government needs an enema.
 
2021-01-21 7:30:54 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Biden doesn't have to rescind the Secret Service protection for Ivanka, half-scoop, and ImEric - in fact he should assure their details will protect the last family from any and all media attention for as long as it takes.


Send them all those frat boys that somehow ended up on Obama's detail. Send 'em those guys.
 
2021-01-21 7:31:07 AM  
Only 3?  That's actually pretty disappointing.
 
2021-01-21 7:31:55 AM  

hubiestubert: Gonna be a lot of resumes getting updated this year, with chunks of time being put down as "joined the Peace Corps" or "took time for personal reflection and development."


What we tell convicts to say - "Worked for the State of _____ in road maintenance"
 
2021-01-21 7:32:13 AM  

kudayta: I'm guessing that this is what Biden's first 100 days are gonna look like.  Firing incompetent appointees from the last administration, reversing shiatty policies from the last administration, and prosecuting the criminal behavior of the last administration.


I'm keeping an eye out and an ear open to see if he goes above and beyond that at all.  It's easy enough to just roll through Trump's listed "accomplishments" and erase them.  But I bet there is an opportunity when doing that to occasionally start a deeper conversation around that topic (ie immigration) or to outright push the needle straight to the left, past where it used to be with nothing more than an EO.

When and where and why Biden applies discretion is going to matter to me a bit.  But meanwhile, I'm more than happy with the WHAT so far.
 
2021-01-21 7:32:54 AM  
If there are competent holdovers (unlikely, but possible) I think Biden keeps them. Or, at least I hope he does.

One of the key attributes of failed democracies is the rise of the "spoils system" where every time a new administration comes in, the entire bureaucracy is replaced with loyalists and family members. It see-saws back and forth, and eventually having your "team" in power is what determines whether or not you get to eat any more. Things devolve from there rather quickly.

Of course, maybe 1 in 50 Trump appointees were competent, so it's not exactly a "who's who" of options here.
 
2021-01-21 7:33:56 AM  
"But that isn't about healing, it's about vengeance! Biden's a dictator!!!!"
 
2021-01-21 7:35:26 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: browneye: NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.

Not sure he's able to do that.

Yeah, pretty certain the Former Presidents Act prevents that from happening.


Let's look into it further.
 
2021-01-21 7:35:47 AM  
I haven't seen anything about the status of Ben Carson, which means he probably just wandered away from his position without anyone at the HUD offices ever realizing after all this time, that Carson was their boss. "I thought Ben was the office manager!"
 
2021-01-21 7:36:26 AM  

BMFPitt: Only 3?  That's actually pretty disappointing.


Don't wanna get accused of a hyperbolic PURGE, so spacing them out and prioritizing them correctly makes sense.  At the same time, you want people to notice it's happening.  You just don't want them to think it's for petty reasons.

I would also find it very satisfying if Biden walked in there with a stack of pink slips and just started stapling them to the forehead of every Trump Chode he came across with instructions to "Fill that out and return it by the end of the day with all of your shiat.  This will be the last time we speak.  Good luck with the Fox News app."  But I can see why that might not be the *best* option available.
 
2021-01-21 7:37:14 AM  

Shaggy_C: If there are competent holdovers (unlikely, but possible) I think Biden keeps them. Or, at least I hope he does.

One of the key attributes of failed democracies is the rise of the "spoils system" where every time a new administration comes in, the entire bureaucracy is replaced with loyalists and family members. It see-saws back and forth, and eventually having your "team" in power is what determines whether or not you get to eat any more. Things devolve from there rather quickly.

Of course, maybe 1 in 50 Trump appointees were competent, so it's not exactly a "who's who" of options here.


" ...every time a new administration comes in, the entire bureaucracy is replaced with loyalists and family members. It see-saws back and forth,"

C'mon with the BSAB, Shaggy. The only time its happened in modern US history has been Trump&Co. The country spent over 100 years shoring up the federal bureaucracy from grift and nepotism after the scandals of the Gilded Age. There has only been one side - the Trump side
 
2021-01-21 7:37:37 AM  

olderbudnoweiser: Who's next?

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Sadly, the Postmaster General isn't a direct appointee, but rather is hired by a Post Office board of directors whose members I believe serve for fixed terms. Said Board can fire him, but whether they'd want to, who knows. Over the course of his term Biden will get to replace some of those members, but not all.

One would hope that political pressure and the disaster DeJoy has been would lead them to fire him, but we'll see. They weren't going to do it while Trump was in office.
 
2021-01-21 7:38:42 AM  

Shaggy_C: If there are competent holdovers (unlikely, but possible) I think Biden keeps them. Or, at least I hope he does.

One of the key attributes of failed democracies is the rise of the "spoils system" where every time a new administration comes in, the entire bureaucracy is replaced with loyalists and family members. It see-saws back and forth, and eventually having your "team" in power is what determines whether or not you get to eat any more. Things devolve from there rather quickly.

Of course, maybe 1 in 50 Trump appointees were competent, so it's not exactly a "who's who" of options here.


Unless you can name competent Trump appointees, I'm going with zero.  There are zero of them.  Assume there's probably one or two decent ones in there all you want.  But ultimately, they are security risks at a minimum, and they should be interviewed, carefully, before they get to keep their seat.  And that is AFTER you prove to me that there's such a thing as a competent Trump appointee.
 
2021-01-21 7:40:42 AM  

Madison_Smiled: Wow. Today I checked the news actually looking forward to finding out what the president is up to. It's a good feeling.


The same feeling I get after colonic irrigation.
 
2021-01-21 7:41:03 AM  

Madison_Smiled: Wow. Today I checked the news actually looking forward to finding out what the president is up to. It's a good feeling.


I look forward to giving it a little rest, knowing that competent people are in charge again.

I randomly took a 2 1/2 hour nap yesterday afternoon. All my SO could say "man, you were out."
 
2021-01-21 7:41:57 AM  
Every time you lose a Trump appointee, an angel earns their wings.
 
2021-01-21 7:42:01 AM  

Mad_Radhu: hubiestubert: Gonna be a lot of resumes getting updated this year, with chunks of time being put down as "joined the Peace Corps" or "took time for personal reflection and development."

"In prison Jan 2017-Jan 2021"


Whorehouse pianist, 2017-2021.
 
2021-01-21 7:43:33 AM  

BeesNuts: I would also find it very satisfying if Biden walked in there with a stack of pink slips and just started stapling them to the forehead of every Trump Chode he came across with instructions to "Fill that out and return it by the end of the day with all of your shiat.  This will be the last time we speak.  Good luck with the Fox News app."  But I can see why that might not be the *best* option available.


No no, this is absolutely the best option available.
 
2021-01-21 7:45:01 AM  
That sounds good, Mr. President.

I got something to say, it could be nothing, a good sign or a bad omen. I live in the greater DC area, plenty of people commute to DC from my area but it's still pretty far.

Anyway, on the 6th I saw abnormally heavy traffic heading to DC at this time. I took the same route I took on the 6th today and it's at least about 40% of the traffic I saw on the 6th.

I took the same route twice between the 6th and today and it was like every other pandemic day, maybe 10-15 cars, but effectively no one out and about.

Either Biden has hired back a lot of people or something hinky is happening. Just in case, bump your personal alert level up a notch or two. Keep an eye out but hopefully today is a good day and there's no trouble.
 
2021-01-21 7:45:17 AM  

G. Tarrant: olderbudnoweiser: Who's next?

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Sadly, the Postmaster General isn't a direct appointee, but rather is hired by a Post Office board of directors whose members I believe serve for fixed terms. Said Board can fire him, but whether they'd want to, who knows. Over the course of his term Biden will get to replace some of those members, but not all.

One would hope that political pressure and the disaster DeJoy has been would lead them to fire him, but we'll see. They weren't going to do it while Trump was in office.


Can they move him to another post?  Some remote place in Alaska?
 
2021-01-21 7:47:27 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: browneye: NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.

Not sure he's able to do that.

Yeah, pretty certain the Former Presidents Act prevents that from happening.


It shouldn't. Florida Man went far beyond what's written in the Former Presidents Act with his order must before leaving the office. Children of former presidents that are older than 16 don't receive SS protection. If the trump kids want bodyguards, they can pay for them out of their own pocket.
 
2021-01-21 7:49:05 AM  
Just 3? He's going to need to step up the pace if he wants to get the country back on track.
 
2021-01-21 7:49:16 AM  
What bothers me: A lot of decent, honest, savvy people were purged all across the different departments because they wouldn't align with trumpism. Do they have a chance to be rehired?
 
2021-01-21 7:49:18 AM  
Hopefully they get a set of steak knives on their way out the door.
 
2021-01-21 7:52:19 AM  
I don't love that he let them resign, no one appointed by Trump is worthy of such professional courtesy. Just make a list of the ones you want gone and fire them en masse, by email.

And the Trumpanzee who wrote to complain that his firing was "political" should have had his letter simply torn in half and mailed back to him. No one cares what happens to you people, you should probably get used to that.
 
2021-01-21 7:52:20 AM  

NotCodger: It's a great start!

Now cancel the extra Secret Service protection ordered by Trump for his family and staff.


No, I think it would be better to require any post presidency SS teams to report any observed illegal activities to a DoJ Lawyer.  Once that rule was in place, I would imagine ALL of the Trumps would reject protection.
 
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