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2021-01-20 4:22:51 PM  
Gaben knows goddamn well the game many of us have been waiting for, with the bluest of balls, for over a decade.
 
2021-01-20 4:28:17 PM  
Link broken? What a tease, subby
 
2021-01-20 4:41:10 PM  
I'm still butthurt over some of the titles that effectively got cancelled when the Valve Steam Machine didn't work out as planned. Also I find it less than thrilling that they will now focus on single player games when some of my all-time favorite games are based on Steam Play versus and co-op modes. Perhaps I should become a billionaire so I can expend less energy caring about such things.
 
2021-01-20 4:55:06 PM  

fragMasterFlash: I'm still butthurt over some of the titles that effectively got cancelled when the Valve Steam Machine didn't work out as planned. Also I find it less than thrilling that they will now focus on single player games when some of my all-time favorite games are based on Steam Play versus and co-op modes. Perhaps I should become a billionaire so I can expend less energy caring about such things.


Whar TF3, whar!?
Also Portal, HL, and L4D
 
2021-01-20 5:10:21 PM  

Rev.K: Gaben knows goddamn well the game many of us have been waiting for, with the bluest of balls, for over a decade.


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2021-01-20 5:14:58 PM  
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2021-01-20 5:16:18 PM  

NateAsbestos: fragMasterFlash: I'm still butthurt over some of the titles that effectively got cancelled when the Valve Steam Machine didn't work out as planned. Also I find it less than thrilling that they will now focus on single player games when some of my all-time favorite games are based on Steam Play versus and co-op modes. Perhaps I should become a billionaire so I can expend less energy caring about such things.

Whar TF3, whar!?
Also Portal, HL, and L4D


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2021-01-20 5:20:40 PM  
Alright, 2021, you were off to a rocky start, but if we see more stuff like this I think we're going to be OK.
 
2021-01-20 5:21:09 PM  
Gabe said there wouldn't be another HL until there was a massive shift in how games are played. There have been plenty since then. Gabe chose the one where you have to stand in place, look around, and awkwardly grasp at things.
 
2021-01-20 5:22:15 PM  
Here's hoping "Back 4 Blood", by the team which actually made "Left 4 Dead" is good. I'm not super chuffed about them going class-based shooter, myself. Part of the fun of L4D is that you can just drop into a game, everybody plays basically the same, and you tune your playstyle based on what items drop on the map. I know that's "old fashioned" these days, but it's fun. L4D2 remains great to play, even today.
 
2021-01-20 5:25:26 PM  

t3knomanser: Here's hoping "Back 4 Blood", by the team which actually made "Left 4 Dead" is good. I'm not super chuffed about them going class-based shooter, myself. Part of the fun of L4D is that you can just drop into a game, everybody plays basically the same, and you tune your playstyle based on what items drop on the map. I know that's "old fashioned" these days, but it's fun. L4D2 remains great to play, even today.


Agreed on all counts
 
2021-01-20 5:45:20 PM  
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2021-01-20 5:53:11 PM  

Autoerotic Defenestration: Rev.K: Gaben knows goddamn well the game many of us have been waiting for, with the bluest of balls, for over a decade.

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How about he at least tries to prove me wrong?
 
2021-01-20 6:22:23 PM  
Probably just a coincidence that this was announced immediately after the EC fines were levied.
 
2021-01-20 6:45:23 PM  
I'm eagerly waiting for Half Life 2: Episode 2 Part 2.
 
2021-01-20 6:53:50 PM  

Rev.K: Autoerotic Defenestration: Rev.K: Gaben knows goddamn well the game many of us have been waiting for, with the bluest of balls, for over a decade.

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How about he at least tries to prove me wrong?


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2021-01-20 7:21:26 PM  

Rev.K: Gaben knows goddamn well the game many of us have been waiting for, with the bluest of balls, for over a decade.


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2021-01-20 8:52:02 PM  
I've gone without a computer (gaming/personal) for about 7 years now, or so. Finally got a laptop decided to check out my Steam account and get the Stanley Parable achievement for not playing for 5 years. Apparently during that time my account was hacked by what appears to be a Russian player. Now, Steam Support was great at getting my account back, luckily I still have my Orange Box and L4D cases with the CD keys from when they first came out and had no problem proving account owner ship.

That said, the bastard apparently spent all of 30 mins (from what I can see on the account) in TF2 and some HL: Death Match and CS: GO before getting VAC Banned and Game Banned. Which is where the problem comes in. TF2 was my main go to game for just settling in and having some fun. CS and HL not so upset about as once it became CS: GO, I went from being an avid player to rare. BUT, even though I proved my account was hacked and everything else, they will not remove either of the bans. To play any of those games again I have to start ANOTHER Steam account and repurchase the games, which seems silly as hell to me.

/Probably gonna get TF2, again
//Not so much CS:GO
///Only care for HL if we ever get Chapter 3 or Part 3
 
2021-01-20 8:57:24 PM  

Rev.K: Gaben knows goddamn well the game many of us have been waiting for, with the bluest of balls, for over a decade.


Hell yeah, Ricochet 2!
 
2021-01-20 9:30:44 PM  
Valve makes games? Since when?
 
2021-01-20 9:58:48 PM  
Half-Life was great, but Thief: The Dark Project was the better game that year.

Half-Life 2 didn't impress me much, honestly. Maybe because I played Vampire Bloodlines (which used the same engine) before HL2 and thought Silent Freeman was a boring character compared to what I came up with in the clunky, buggy yet classic vamp game. Even the graphics didn't faze me. Far Cry 1 at least had me gawk over a jungle setting and water before I realized it was a SiN rehash.
 
2021-01-20 11:08:58 PM  

Dibikad: I've gone without a computer (gaming/personal) for about 7 years now, or so. Finally got a laptop decided to check out my Steam account and get the Stanley Parable achievement for not playing for 5 years. Apparently during that time my account was hacked by what appears to be a Russian player. Now, Steam Support was great at getting my account back, luckily I still have my Orange Box and L4D cases with the CD keys from when they first came out and had no problem proving account owner ship.

That said, the bastard apparently spent all of 30 mins (from what I can see on the account) in TF2 and some HL: Death Match and CS: GO before getting VAC Banned and Game Banned. Which is where the problem comes in. TF2 was my main go to game for just settling in and having some fun. CS and HL not so upset about as once it became CS: GO, I went from being an avid player to rare. BUT, even though I proved my account was hacked and everything else, they will not remove either of the bans. To play any of those games again I have to start ANOTHER Steam account and repurchase the games, which seems silly as hell to me.

/Probably gonna get TF2, again
//Not so much CS:GO
///Only care for HL if we ever get Chapter 3 or Part 3


A Russian stole my Origin account and I let him keep it.
 
2021-01-21 12:19:27 AM  
Half-Life 3
Half-Life 3
was in development between 2013 and 2014. Valve planned to use procedurally generated levels alongside a "crafted experience", similar to the Left 4 Dead series; for example, the game would generate different routes through environments each time it was played. For the project, the team re-scanned the face of Frank Sheldon, the actor whose likeness was used for the G-Man character in Half-Life 2. The project was canceled early in development as the Source 2 engine was not yet stable.[1]

Borealis
Before his departure from Valve in 2016, Laidlaw led a virtual reality project on the Source 2 engine named Borealis, set on the time-travelling ship alluded to in Episode Two and Portal 2. The game would skip between the time of the Seven Hour War, the period in which the Combine conquered Earth before Half-Life 2, and a time set shortly after the events of Episode Two. A minigame in which players would fish off the bow of the ship was also proposed.[1] Borealis may have been the project that inspired Laidlaw's "Epistle 3" story.[40]
 
2021-01-21 1:41:26 AM  
Fark, if they make HL3 I hope they don't make it some VR crap. I'll have to borrow a headset from someone if they do, I guess.
 
2021-01-21 3:44:41 AM  

NateAsbestos: Link broken? What a tease, subby


Link wasn't worth your or anyone's time and subby should be ashamed for putting it up instead of the actual interview.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-z​e​aland/realistic-possibility-48m-e-spor​ts-tournament-could-held-in-nz-says-ga​ming-tycoon-gabe-newell
 
2021-01-21 6:47:14 AM  
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MOM!!! THE INTERNET'S BROKEN!!!
 
2021-01-21 6:57:23 AM  

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Depends. I know a kid who was born about a year before HL2 released and they think they're legit games, and can recognize what they brought to the table at the time they were released.

lolmao500: For the project, the team re-scanned the face of Frank Sheldon, the actor whose likeness was used for the G-Man character in Half-Life 2.

An interesting idea for a likely ageless, formless being, especially considering what time and age does to someone.
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You can still see him in there but even HL2 wasn't an exact match to his facial structure, and the Alyx version is a further departure. I wonder if it actually had more to do with his Alexander Technique teachings and Faceposer, which was one of Source/HL2's big-deal technologies at the time it released.
 
2021-01-21 7:13:46 AM  

KingBiefWhistle: and can recognize what they brought to the table at the time they were released.


Good level design, solid art direction, and physics-based gameplay, wrapped up by a story so thin and sheer the mechanics of the game might as well be naked?
 
2021-01-21 8:13:19 AM  

t3knomanser: wrapped up by a story so thin and sheer the mechanics of the game might as well be naked?


So you're saying it's a first-person shooter?
 
2021-01-21 8:16:40 AM  

fallingcow: t3knomanser: wrapped up by a story so thin and sheer the mechanics of the game might as well be naked?

So you're saying it's a first-person shooter?


One that people inexplicably praise for it's great story.
 
2021-01-21 9:46:40 AM  

t3knomanser: fallingcow: t3knomanser: wrapped up by a story so thin and sheer the mechanics of the game might as well be naked?

So you're saying it's a first-person shooter?

One that people inexplicably praise for it's great story.


The story and (especially) world-building and atmosphere are well above average for the genre. I'm struggling to think of other pure-FPS games that are better. Stealth-action, yeah, FPS-RPG, sure, but story not being the focus is the norm fir plain FPS. The environments and atmosphere matching and complementing what story there is becomes more important, and HL nails that.
 
2021-01-21 2:56:07 PM  

fallingcow: The story and (especially) world-building and atmosphere are well above average for the genre.


I'll give you atmosphere, but not world-building, at least not in the sense that the world feels like a thought-out place that could exist on its own terms. It all looks nice, but it doesn't make any goddamn sense if you do more than squint at it. And sure, thin story is pretty standard for an FPS, but I literally could not tell you what exactly is at stake or what the goal was in HL2, beyond some vague "the aliens are bad, and we fight them." But I vividly remember the bridge scene, when that train runs over and everything shakes. That one moment stands out, crisply and clearly, and that's an example of level design and atmosphere.

I'll grant this: in an era when FPS games were "just shoot everything," the Half Life games were quite remarkable, but they weren't unique. Jedi Knight came out a year before HL. Halo was in 2000 (and while that's a "kill 'em all" it certainly spent a lot of time on worldbuilding and even some characters). While I assume you'll count Deus Ex as an "fps-rpg", once again we're talking about something that put a lot of energy into world-building and expanding on character beats. HL1, especially, is pretty much devoid of characters. HL2 has some, but they're mostly thin and uninteresting (Alyx might get more voice-lines, but as a character she brings as much as Dawg or whatever the robot was named).
 
2021-01-21 3:08:53 PM  
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Oh no.  Not this time.  I've been baited with treats before.
 
2021-01-21 3:21:15 PM  

t3knomanser: fallingcow: The story and (especially) world-building and atmosphere are well above average for the genre.

I'll give you atmosphere, but not world-building, at least not in the sense that the world feels like a thought-out place that could exist on its own terms. It all looks nice, but it doesn't make any goddamn sense if you do more than squint at it. And sure, thin story is pretty standard for an FPS, but I literally could not tell you what exactly is at stake or what the goal was in HL2, beyond some vague "the aliens are bad, and we fight them." But I vividly remember the bridge scene, when that train runs over and everything shakes. That one moment stands out, crisply and clearly, and that's an example of level design and atmosphere.

I'll grant this: in an era when FPS games were "just shoot everything," the Half Life games were quite remarkable, but they weren't unique. Jedi Knight came out a year before HL. Halo was in 2000 (and while that's a "kill 'em all" it certainly spent a lot of time on worldbuilding and even some characters). While I assume you'll count Deus Ex as an "fps-rpg", once again we're talking about something that put a lot of energy into world-building and expanding on character beats. HL1, especially, is pretty much devoid of characters. HL2 has some, but they're mostly thin and uninteresting (Alyx might get more voice-lines, but as a character she brings as much as Dawg or whatever the robot was named).


Yeah, I think what's notable about it is that it does so much with so little. It's ordinary FPS action (ever-so-slightly deviating from purity there with jumping puzzles in 1, and the physics stuff in 2), and (almost; there are a couple notable exceptions) no cutscenes or time-discontinuity during the game. Apparently-contiguous connected levels to navigate (again, with a very few exceptions).

Most other FPS then and now either effectively have no moment-to-moment story or motivation beyond "reach the end of the game" (Doom) or splice in cutscenes and then drop your character wherever they need to be (pretty much the whole Call of Duty franchise is downright funny about this, as at times it feels like they made all the levels then later wrote voiceovers & briefing screens to splice all the arbitrary locations & action together; Jedi Knight, which you bring up and which I played long before I played Half Life, is also in this category). In that sense it's a more cohesive and continuous experience than nearly all other pure FPS games, and even most of the ones that twist into other subgenres (Deus Ex, System Shock, Thief, Dishonored, et c.)

Damn near all games that outdo it on story, story-supporting atmosphere, and sheer feel of the world, do so by adding game or narrative elements that Half Life deliberately avoids. That may make it a best-of only in a narrow (but well-populated) field, but AFAIK it's still way up at the top, among those, including in presentation of story.
 
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