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(NYPost)   Transfer company has oopsie after nearly 12,000 COVID-19 vaccine doses ruined on way to Michigan   (nypost.com) divider line
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2021-01-20 3:19:25 PM  
That's 12,000 more people who will have to suffer through several more weeks (or months) of misery, on top of the ones who won't get the vaccine.

/joke aimed at January, not just Michigan
 
2021-01-20 3:26:21 PM  
I'm curious about what happens to it at the lower temperature to make it go bad, particularly since the very similar Pfizer one is just fine at dry ice temperature.
 
2021-01-20 4:06:38 PM  
.... considering Pfizer has manufacturing capacity *IN MICHIGAN*, it seems we have some logistics issues to solve.

(yes, I realize that it's the Moderna vaccine in the article)
 
2021-01-20 4:07:37 PM  
It should still get you high though, right?
 
2021-01-20 4:10:28 PM  
Thanks, Biden.
 
2021-01-20 4:11:15 PM  
Each shipment contains a device that monitors the temperature of the vaccine during transport.

We make that "device" where I work.
 
2021-01-20 4:11:48 PM  
Temperature excursions are a fact of life for anyone involved in distribution of pharmaceuticals.  Any competent supply planner will craft a distribution strategy with estimated losses included.
 
2021-01-20 4:12:04 PM  

Fara Clark: Each shipment contains a device that monitors the temperature of the vaccine during transport.

We make that "device" where I work.


Are you getting a kick out of these replies
 
2021-01-20 4:12:43 PM  
Could have sworn we had a greenlight for this yesterday that was along the lines of:
(a) sabotage, (b) too hot, (c) too cold
 
2021-01-20 4:12:44 PM  
Jesus f*cking Christ.
 
2021-01-20 4:13:32 PM  

dothemath: It should still get you high though, right?


You ever got vaccinated....oon weeeeeeed???
 
2021-01-20 4:15:10 PM  
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2021-01-20 4:16:03 PM  
At least this was not on purpose, like when sombody sabotages the vaccine, or when the government forces the hospitals to throw away the vaccine instead of giving it to people outside the chosen elite.
 
2021-01-20 4:18:48 PM  
every rushed COVID vaccine is one less mile of federal highway funds that could go to your state's infrastructure


[citation warranted]
 
2021-01-20 4:19:11 PM  
And I thought I was done cursing at McKesson when they got out of the healthcare systems software game...
 
2021-01-20 4:25:05 PM  

Sim Tree: Fara Clark: Each shipment contains a device that monitors the temperature of the vaccine during transport.

We make that "device" where I work.

Are you getting a kick out of these replies


It bothers me to see needed vaccine go to waste, especially through mishandling. When a vaccine site runs out of qualified recipients, rather then let the vaccine go to waste, drag folks in off the street. Literally.

/But I do think It's cool that I have a small part in fighting back against covid.
 
2021-01-20 4:34:56 PM  
You have to understand.  These are not smart people and mistakes were made.
 
2021-01-20 4:39:58 PM  
I wasn't expecting "too cold" to be a problem. Oh well.
 
2021-01-20 4:40:45 PM  
I am surprised that Faux News and/or the N.Y. Post has not blamed Biden for this.
 
2021-01-20 4:46:06 PM  

Misch: Could have sworn we had a greenlight for this yesterday that was along the lines of:
(a) sabotage, (b) too hot, (c) too cold


I submitted that headline, but AFAIK (not a TFer) it was never actually greened.
 
2021-01-20 4:48:03 PM  

Fara Clark: Each shipment contains a device that monitors the temperature of the vaccine during transport.

We make that "device" where I work.


fist bump. we monitor that "device"
 
2021-01-20 4:49:14 PM  
It could have been much worse everyone. They could have actually reached Michigan.
 
2021-01-20 4:49:24 PM  
Biden has TWO WEEKS to fix this.  Then we start blaming him for everything!
 
2021-01-20 4:52:34 PM  

Atheist Vuvuzela Marching Band: every rushed COVID vaccine is one less mile of federal highway funds that could go to your state's infrastructure


[citation warranted]


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2021-01-20 4:57:30 PM  

Atheist Vuvuzela Marching Band: every rushed COVID vaccine is one less mile of federal highway funds that could go to your state's infrastructure


[citation warranted]


You have absolutely no idea how much anything costs, do you?
 
2021-01-20 5:00:03 PM  

Fara Clark: It bothers me to see needed vaccine go to waste, especially through mishandling. When a vaccine site runs out of qualified recipients, rather then let the vaccine go to waste, drag folks in off the street. Literally.


We can't do that.  That would mess up the 140 tier levels.

/Someone in New York should be getting named and shamed for that debacle...
 
2021-01-20 5:10:12 PM  

ekdikeo4: .... considering Pfizer has manufacturing capacity *IN MICHIGAN*, it seems we have some logistics issues to solve.

(yes, I realize that it's the Moderna vaccine in the article)


They cant possibly make the vaccine is some dumbass, flyover state. I was promised that we only make chicken feed here, and that we ought just be letting those people die. We are after a financial burden to those costal elite states
 
2021-01-20 5:16:52 PM  
Biden's administration is a complete failure. We should have gone with
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2021-01-20 5:50:04 PM  

mofa: Biden's administration is a complete failure. We should have gone with
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Hell yeah.

Imagine Biden with his hand in his pants.

*shudder*

Now check out Sally Field with her hand in her pants.

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I mean, she makes it look so wholesome.
 
2021-01-20 6:14:50 PM  
Do when will our AG Dana Nessel walk back her statement she made about making whoever was responsible face legal consequences?
 
2021-01-20 6:15:08 PM  

nursetim: Do when will our AG Dana Nessel walk back her statement she made about making whoever was responsible face legal consequences?


*So
 
2021-01-20 6:40:04 PM  

Ivo Shandor: I'm curious about what happens to it at the lower temperature to make it go bad, particularly since the very similar Pfizer one is just fine at dry ice temperature.


Considering the timeline to market, it's likely that they do not have sability data to support the lower temperature, or the freeze thaw.  Or they do have data that suggests this is bad for the efficacy or impurities or freezing could compromise the container closure system.

Either way, the correct quality decision is to reject the shipment.
 
2021-01-20 7:29:49 PM  

Ivo Shandor: I'm curious about what happens to it at the lower temperature to make it go bad, particularly since the very similar Pfizer one is just fine at dry ice temperature.


Odds are good that the vaccine wasn't actually ruined by getting too cold but they don't want to give it to patients who then don't develop antibodies. That would result in lawsuits.  So instead they should have offered it to volunteers who aren't eligible in the current phase with the disclaimer that it may or may not work.  Then they could later be tested for the antibodies and might only need one more shot instead of two.
 
2021-01-20 7:35:48 PM  

gar1013: mofa: Biden's administration is a complete failure. We should have gone with
[Fark user image image 240x300]

Hell yeah.

Imagine Biden with his hand in his pants.

*shudder*

Now check out Sally Field with her hand in her pants.

[external-preview.redd.it image 850x933]

I mean, she makes it look so wholesome.


Sally Field could make DA/DV look wholesome
 
2021-01-20 7:52:03 PM  

scanman61: gar1013: mofa: Biden's administration is a complete failure. We should have gone with
[Fark user image image 240x300]

Hell yeah.

Imagine Biden with his hand in his pants.

*shudder*

Now check out Sally Field with her hand in her pants.

[external-preview.redd.it image 850x933]

I mean, she makes it look so wholesome.

Sally Field could make DA/DV look wholesome


"Gidget Gets Gaped"

Feels so wrong to type, but it had to be done.
 
2021-01-20 8:15:12 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: Fara Clark: It bothers me to see needed vaccine go to waste, especially through mishandling. When a vaccine site runs out of qualified recipients, rather then let the vaccine go to waste, drag folks in off the street. Literally.

We can't do that.  That would mess up the 140 tier levels.

/Someone in New York should be getting named and shamed for that debacle...


Fortunately, we have the results of the 2018 NYS elections on hand someplace that can tell us who is making those calls.
 
2021-01-20 8:39:06 PM  

CarnySaur: Biden has TWO WEEKS to fix this.  Then we start blaming him for everything!


That's ok. The FB PhDs are already blaming Gov. Whitmer.
 
2021-01-20 8:44:45 PM  

Noah_Tall: Ivo Shandor: I'm curious about what happens to it at the lower temperature to make it go bad, particularly since the very similar Pfizer one is just fine at dry ice temperature.

Odds are good that the vaccine wasn't actually ruined by getting too cold but they don't want to give it to patients who then don't develop antibodies. That would result in lawsuits.  So instead they should have offered it to volunteers who aren't eligible in the current phase with the disclaimer that it may or may not work.  Then they could later be tested for the antibodies and might only need one more shot instead of two.


It would probably be harder and more expensive to go through the legal requirements allowing that then it will be to just re-manufacture it.
 
2021-01-20 9:02:36 PM  
Well with the pile of bad reactions, and now a link to another set of them in people who already had covid..

The places blocking vaccinations (San Diego, etc) may be in the right.
 
2021-01-20 10:00:24 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: That's 12,000 more people who will have to suffer through several more weeks (or months) of misery, on top of the ones who won't get the vaccine.

/joke aimed at January, not just Michigan


How do their know they are ruined for most people? Is there so kind of peer review study concerning this that I am not aware of? Hell, the vaccine is safe for pregnant women. Why would it be classified as "ruined" allowing the torture of others?

Just kidding. Suck for those that will perish because those vaccines didn't make it to market. Better luck next life.
 
2021-01-20 10:53:34 PM  

meanmutton: Atheist Vuvuzela Marching Band: every rushed COVID vaccine is one less mile of federal highway funds that could go to your state's infrastructure


[citation warranted]

You have absolutely no idea how much anything costs, do you?


so if they make it 1/4th a mile then you'll magically comply?
 
2021-01-20 10:55:52 PM  

meanmutton: Atheist Vuvuzela Marching Band: every rushed COVID vaccine is one less mile of federal highway funds that could go to your state's infrastructure


[citation warranted]

You have absolutely no idea how much anything costs, do you?


its like you're trying to counter but can't propose anything remotely meaningful.

/nou
//iwwebsite
///yougander
////GOAT
 
2021-01-21 12:29:30 AM  

wxboy: Misch: Could have sworn we had a greenlight for this yesterday that was along the lines of:
(a) sabotage, (b) too hot, (c) too cold

I submitted that headline, but AFAIK (not a TFer) it was never actually greened.


Oh, that's right, I was browsing through the TotalFark full submissions for some reason
 
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