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(CNN)   Vegan eatery in France makes history by earning Michelin star. Opened by self-taught chef and former archaeologist, specialties include "yellow zucchini ravioli with black truffle gnocchi, and a Swiss chard ballotine with vegetable ricotta"   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-01-19 8:22:30 PM  
Sounds affordable.
 
2021-01-19 8:32:39 PM  
Maybe one day I can visit.
 
2021-01-19 8:59:22 PM  
what is vegetable ricotta made from? cashews maybe?
 
2021-01-19 11:38:35 PM  
"vegan"
"France"

Welp, gonna miss out on that one!
*sob*
 
2021-01-19 11:40:49 PM  
Vegan food is pretty awesome when it's not going out of its way to be meat.
 
2021-01-19 11:54:32 PM  

luna1580: what is vegetable ricotta made from? cashews maybe?


If I had to wager, I'd guess a tofu base. Maybe throw in nutritional yeast to give it a slight cheese taste.
 
2021-01-20 12:28:32 AM  
I don't think I've ever eaten at a vegetarian restaurant.
 
2021-01-20 12:38:24 AM  
I thought Michelin required all manner of traditional French shiat made in an exact way that presumably uses lots of butter among other things.
 
2021-01-20 1:03:36 AM  

RogermcAllen: I thought Michelin required all manner of traditional French shiat made in an exact way that presumably uses lots of butter among other things.


No, they just need to be exceptionally good at making what they serve.
 
2021-01-20 1:57:14 AM  

RogermcAllen: I thought Michelin required all manner of traditional French shiat made in an exact way that presumably uses lots of butter among other things.


Butter is great stuff. As an American who discovered real butter a few years ago I don't want to go back. Still buy Tillamook or Dairy Gold butter for all the regular things but keep some quality import full fat and flavor around for toast and muffins. Add a little spread of apricot jam on top and I am in carb heaven.

Friggin carbs. Love em but need to get out on the bike again, this last year was bull crap. Used to bike to work now I barely change my shirt.
 
2021-01-20 2:16:45 AM  

mrshowrules: I don't think I've ever eaten at a vegetarian restaurant.


the first or second date with my ex-wife, I knew she was a vegulon, 'ndso I got us reservations at some famous vegan place in Manhattan.

little did my ig'nant dumbass realize, she's from a long line of guj'rati priestins, and, yeah, that's a very, very different thing than wypipo foods.

it. was. farking. disgusting. just no.

I paid the bill, one of the very few times in my life NOT CLEAN PLATE CLUB - and we took PATH back to Darkest-Joisey and get Dosa in JC with unlimited-sambhar. mmm.

/things got more interesting after that
 
2021-01-20 2:16:57 AM  

Redh8t: RogermcAllen: I thought Michelin required all manner of traditional French shiat made in an exact way that presumably uses lots of butter among other things.

No, they just need to be exceptionally good at making what they serve.


One of my favorite 3 star establishments - no never been, but it amuses the hell out of me that it exists and is rated one of the best places in the world.

Restaurant Überfahrt
 
2021-01-20 4:25:58 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Vegan food is pretty awesome when it's not going out of its way to be meat.


This
 
2021-01-20 6:27:57 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Vegan food is pretty awesome when it's not going out of its way to be meat.


I find it best when it does, the local Vietnamese temple used to put on some great fake meat meals including the closest vegan thing to roast pork belly you'll ever taste. Was dating a girl whose father was Vietnamese at the time, and after he died we were at the temple for memorial.

I mean I still spent 18 months sneaking to my mother's place for a steak, but the fake meat vegan food wasn't too bad. I even invented a passable fried vegan fish finger dish that is indistinguishable from formed white fillet fingers.
 
2021-01-20 6:30:23 AM  

baxterdog: RogermcAllen: I thought Michelin required all manner of traditional French shiat made in an exact way that presumably uses lots of butter among other things.

Butter is great stuff. As an American who discovered real butter a few years ago I don't want to go back. Still buy Tillamook or Dairy Gold butter for all the regular things but keep some quality import full fat and flavor around for toast and muffins. Add a little spread of apricot jam on top and I am in carb heaven.

Friggin carbs. Love em but need to get out on the bike again, this last year was bull crap. Used to bike to work now I barely change my shirt.


Get a dairy cow:

Pros: fresh milk, butter and cream
Cons: Chasing that biatch down and herding her home because she got out of the fence again.
 
2021-01-20 8:06:51 AM  

RogermcAllen: I thought Michelin required all manner of traditional French shiat made in an exact way that presumably uses lots of butter among other things.


No it just requires you to be stupid enough to look for something that actively makes your life worse in basically every possible way
 
2021-01-20 8:16:51 AM  

tintar: mrshowrules: I don't think I've ever eaten at a vegetarian restaurant.

the first or second date with my ex-wife, I knew she was a vegulon, 'ndso I got us reservations at some famous vegan place in Manhattan.

little did my ig'nant dumbass realize, she's from a long line of guj'rati priestins, and, yeah, that's a very, very different thing than wypipo foods.

it. was. farking. disgusting. just no.

I paid the bill, one of the very few times in my life NOT CLEAN PLATE CLUB - and we took PATH back to Darkest-Joisey and get Dosa in JC with unlimited-sambhar. mmm.

/things got more interesting after that


You might want to get the stroke checked out by a doctor.
 
2021-01-20 8:22:43 AM  
Millions of people who subsist on Hot Pockets and Stouffer's frozen lasagnas are laughing at this obviously disgusting food.
 
2021-01-20 8:25:24 AM  
This is a hard pass.

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2021-01-20 8:36:33 AM  

Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

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And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"
 
2021-01-20 8:45:34 AM  

cryptozoophiliac: Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

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And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"


I know enough Bourdain to know that's probably something he said in 2001 and then felt dumb about saying by 2010.  Meeting the actual people you're making fun of tends to take the edge off of things.
 
2021-01-20 8:46:39 AM  
This place sometimes gets 5 hour lines, which I think is pretty silly, but it's working for them.
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2021-01-20 9:10:08 AM  

Rapmaster2000: cryptozoophiliac: Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

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And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"

I know enough Bourdain to know that's probably something he said in 2001 and then felt dumb about saying by 2010.  Meeting the actual people you're making fun of tends to take the edge off of things.


I have experienced the opposite with vegans.
 
2021-01-20 9:20:53 AM  

Laobaojun: Rapmaster2000: cryptozoophiliac: Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

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And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"

I know enough Bourdain to know that's probably something he said in 2001 and then felt dumb about saying by 2010.  Meeting the actual people you're making fun of tends to take the edge off of things.

I have experienced the opposite with vegans.


I haven't met a single vegan and I'm an upper-middle class lib living in a major city (not in the burbs) who went to a large university.

Vegans are estimated to be 0.5% of the US population and even that is self-reported (meaning it's high like self-reported anything virtuous).  Even if that was true, it would mean 1 in 200 Americans are vegan.  The average person knows 600 people and no one I know is vegan.  I know several vegetarians, but zero vegans.

There's a lot of anger at a group of people who barely exist and don't matter.
 
2021-01-20 9:29:10 AM  

Rapmaster2000: cryptozoophiliac: Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

[azquotes.com image 850x400]

And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"

I know enough Bourdain to know that's probably something he said in 2001 and then felt dumb about saying by 2010.  Meeting the actual people you're making fun of tends to take the edge off of things.


sure, but... when had Bourdain ever taken back anything he ever said, showed remorse for anything, "felt dumb" etc.? he was an horrific bastard-chef, but... he was our bastard-chef.

lol, I'm not sure I ever even met an actual vegan in my entire life, or if I did it was so un-memorable as to be forgotten. whereas there are most-defs one or two certain farkers I have marked down as "more vegan than vegan" for trying to tell other people what to eat.


Laobaojun:
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ha ha ha, splitters!!!
 
2021-01-20 9:43:24 AM  

tintar: sure, but... when had Bourdain ever taken back anything he ever said, showed remorse for anything, "felt dumb" etc.? he was an horrific bastard-chef, but... he was our bastard-chef.


A lot.  He took back his Emeril stuff.  He even had nice things to say about Sandra Lee.
 
2021-01-20 9:43:39 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Laobaojun: Rapmaster2000: cryptozoophiliac: Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

[azquotes.com image 850x400]

And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"

I know enough Bourdain to know that's probably something he said in 2001 and then felt dumb about saying by 2010.  Meeting the actual people you're making fun of tends to take the edge off of things.

I have experienced the opposite with vegans.

I haven't met a single vegan and I'm an upper-middle class lib living in a major city (not in the burbs) who went to a large university.

Vegans are estimated to be 0.5% of the US population and even that is self-reported (meaning it's high like self-reported anything virtuous).  Even if that was true, it would mean 1 in 200 Americans are vegan.  The average person knows 600 people and no one I know is vegan.  I know several vegetarians, but zero vegans.

There's a lot of anger at a group of people who barely exist and don't matter.


literally the only thing that comes to mind... and this was decades ago... a friend from Portugal would throw beyond-lavish birthday parties for himself at his UWS condo (the idea being that the guests would buy some of his artwork. and I don't mean "artwork" I mean seriously decent stuff, the man was no slouch) - ennaways. one year, he had, amongst all the other goodies, a whole gorgeous lechon. this one woman put her hand to her forehead and acted faint as if someone needed to fetch her farting-couch. she put a lace doily over the wee piggie's face and protested loudly, to the annoyance of nearby guests. later I saw her in a corner inhaling a plate of crispy-skin. turns out she was simply an attention-whore/drama-queen, not a vegan. lol!
 
2021-01-20 9:50:46 AM  

Rapmaster2000: tintar: sure, but... when had Bourdain ever taken back anything he ever said, showed remorse for anything, "felt dumb" etc.? he was an horrific bastard-chef, but... he was our bastard-chef.

A lot.  He took back his Emeril stuff.  He even had nice things to say about Sandra Lee.


huh! I must have repressed that, probably because I like thinking of him as a jerk. also, lol, I do love me some Elzar/Emeril hating, but, yeah, that guy eventually started to grow on me as well.

/bam!
 
2021-01-20 10:05:32 AM  

tintar: Rapmaster2000: tintar: sure, but... when had Bourdain ever taken back anything he ever said, showed remorse for anything, "felt dumb" etc.? he was an horrific bastard-chef, but... he was our bastard-chef.

A lot.  He took back his Emeril stuff.  He even had nice things to say about Sandra Lee.

huh! I must have repressed that, probably because I like thinking of him as a jerk. also, lol, I do love me some Elzar/Emeril hating, but, yeah, that guy eventually started to grow on me as well.

/bam!


I think he just grew and accepted that all edges all the time wasn't helping him to do that.  I think of the episode with Iggy Pop on the beach where they talk about the most important thing in life is to love and be loved.
 
2021-01-20 2:16:48 PM  
All that sounds delicious, but if I'm paying to go to France, whenever the fark Americans are free to travel overseas again, I'm not eating "vegan."
 
2021-01-20 2:43:41 PM  
Both sound great with a little pancetta.
 
2021-01-20 3:27:41 PM  

tintar: mrshowrules: I don't think I've ever eaten at a vegetarian restaurant.

the first or second date with my ex-wife, I knew she was a vegulon, 'ndso I got us reservations at some famous vegan place in Manhattan.

little did my ig'nant dumbass realize, she's from a long line of guj'rati priestins, and, yeah, that's a very, very different thing than wypipo foods.

it. was. farking. disgusting. just no.

I paid the bill, one of the very few times in my life NOT CLEAN PLATE CLUB - and we took PATH back to Darkest-Joisey and get Dosa in JC with unlimited-sambhar. mmm.

/things got more interesting after that


I think you are having a stroke.
 
2021-01-20 3:28:23 PM  

Beta Tested: tintar: mrshowrules: I don't think I've ever eaten at a vegetarian restaurant.

the first or second date with my ex-wife, I knew she was a vegulon, 'ndso I got us reservations at some famous vegan place in Manhattan.

little did my ig'nant dumbass realize, she's from a long line of guj'rati priestins, and, yeah, that's a very, very different thing than wypipo foods.

it. was. farking. disgusting. just no.

I paid the bill, one of the very few times in my life NOT CLEAN PLATE CLUB - and we took PATH back to Darkest-Joisey and get Dosa in JC with unlimited-sambhar. mmm.

/things got more interesting after that

You might want to get the stroke checked out by a doctor.


Goddamnit
 
2021-01-20 3:47:28 PM  

Rapmaster2000: tintar: Rapmaster2000: tintar: sure, but... when had Bourdain ever taken back anything he ever said, showed remorse for anything, "felt dumb" etc.? he was an horrific bastard-chef, but... he was our bastard-chef.

A lot.  He took back his Emeril stuff.  He even had nice things to say about Sandra Lee.

huh! I must have repressed that, probably because I like thinking of him as a jerk. also, lol, I do love me some Elzar/Emeril hating, but, yeah, that guy eventually started to grow on me as well.

/bam!

I think he just grew and accepted that all edges all the time wasn't helping him to do that.  I think of the episode with Iggy Pop on the beach where they talk about the most important thing in life is to love and be loved.


I really need to go back and re-watch some of his things, but for now it's still just too saddening :( not sure I even had the heart to finish Parts Unknown, so there are at least a handful of episodes unseen to me.
 
2021-01-20 4:05:02 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Vegan food is pretty awesome when it's not going out of its way to be meat.


Fact. I mostly cook vegetarian at home (I'm not gonna give up eggs and milk products, and come on, honey's out? Seriously? No mead? LOL no) but at least half the time my dishes end up being vegan anyway. Just because it's farking delicious.

/ Though if I'm visiting France, zero of my meals are likely to be vegan.
// Very few will even be vegetarian.
 
2021-01-20 4:30:38 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Laobaojun: Rapmaster2000: cryptozoophiliac: Laobaojun: This is a hard pass.

[azquotes.com image 850x400]

And yet the exact opposite is true.

/"Life is demanding without understanding."
//I'm alive and Bourdain is dead
/// not a vegan; just hate fake "punks"

I know enough Bourdain to know that's probably something he said in 2001 and then felt dumb about saying by 2010.  Meeting the actual people you're making fun of tends to take the edge off of things.

I have experienced the opposite with vegans.

I haven't met a single vegan and I'm an upper-middle class lib living in a major city (not in the burbs) who went to a large university.

Vegans are estimated to be 0.5% of the US population and even that is self-reported (meaning it's high like self-reported anything virtuous).  Even if that was true, it would mean 1 in 200 Americans are vegan.  The average person knows 600 people and no one I know is vegan.  I know several vegetarians, but zero vegans.

There's a lot of anger at a group of people who barely exist and don't matter.


The PETAphiles are responsible for a lot of the hatred. They have spent years being the public face of veganism. They have also normalized bullying vegans who stray from the True Path.
 
2021-01-20 5:15:53 PM  

fallingcow: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Vegan food is pretty awesome when it's not going out of its way to be meat.

Fact. I mostly cook vegetarian at home (I'm not gonna give up eggs and milk products, and come on, honey's out? Seriously? No mead? LOL no) but at least half the time my dishes end up being vegan anyway. Just because it's farking delicious.

/ Though if I'm visiting France, zero of my meals are likely to be vegan.
// Very few will even be vegetarian.


I bought the series of Lotus and the Artichoke vegan cookbooks.  Initially it was mainly to support someone worthwhile & figured I'd find some that would be nice or at least a base I can work from, but damned if almost all of the recipes I've tried were really good.  So much so that I later bought the whole line - India, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, etc.  Seems like people have really made some progress on that front, compared to a couple of decades ago.

/newest lotus & artichoke book is on kickstarter now
//... not intended as a plug
 
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