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2021-01-19 4:39:17 PM  
This is the kind of obvious news that might drive someone to vote from the rooftops.
 
2021-01-19 4:57:06 PM  
I feel like this is calling out a certain Farker in the headline
 
2021-01-19 5:01:36 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I feel like this is calling out a certain Farker in the headline


It's practically a summoning spell.
 
2021-01-19 5:34:16 PM  
Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-01-19 6:33:06 PM  
There's a spot on the FCC license application form where you have to admit or deny that you have been convicted of certain crimes that make you not moral enough to join the airwaves.
 
2021-01-19 6:56:19 PM  
Crazy idea time: How about instead of warnings you start pulling licenses?
 
2021-01-19 6:57:46 PM  

themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.


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What an American ham might look like.

/Pressed ham at least.
 
2021-01-19 6:58:33 PM  
Wow I'm shocked that a ham radio operator might be a clueless right wing dipshiat.
 
2021-01-19 6:58:45 PM  

ZAZ: There's a spot on the FCC license application form where you have to admit or deny that you have been convicted of certain crimes that make you not moral enough to join the airwaves.


Like littering?  Or creating a public nuisance?
 
2021-01-19 6:58:47 PM  
C.W. McCall - Convoy
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2021-01-19 6:59:02 PM  
Tough topic.  Gonna be hard to shiat on a certain protected poster without getting banned.
 
2021-01-19 6:59:15 PM  
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2021-01-19 6:59:22 PM  

themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.



Hams are either rabid misanthropes or the most generous civic-minded people you'll ever meet.
 
2021-01-19 6:59:26 PM  
No, please do.  An open channel really is the best place to plan terrorism.
 
2021-01-19 6:59:29 PM  
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2021-01-19 7:00:27 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Tough topic.  Gonna be hard to shiat on a certain protected poster without getting banned.


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2021-01-19 7:00:55 PM  
Where's our morse code tapping voter from the rooftops?
 
2021-01-19 7:01:39 PM  
This seems like the sort of thing that would disproportionately affect the backwoods militia types, where one organization is broadcasting to another organization, instead of just individuals to individuals.  I could see that being more dangerous than random Q followers.  It sort of acts like a high pass propensity-for-violence filter.
 
2021-01-19 7:03:04 PM  

Saiga410: [YouTube video: C.W. McCall - Convoy]


I was going to ask if you can still use CB Radio to commit crimes.

Oh, as a slashie....

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2021-01-19 7:03:07 PM  

themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.


Completely agree.  You'll find a lot of hams out there that don't do the hobby justice
 
2021-01-19 7:03:30 PM  
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2021-01-19 7:04:52 PM  
Ugh, my Dad would have been so pissed to hear of this that his hobby of 50+ years was being used for this.  Although he was beginning to hear a lot more loons over the airwaves after my parents moved out of New England.  He passed away last August and my last conversation with him was him biatching about Trump.

/He probably would have reported anything he heard
//I miss my dad
 
2021-01-19 7:06:02 PM  
What a great article! I have all my ham stuff in boxes in the basement because all extra class hams are tumpers.  Got them blocked here on Fark foo. In fact I've  just been throwing it out. I absolutely will not support  it.  Just threw out all my packet radio stuff. don't bother with Ham radio unless you like Insurrection.
 
2021-01-19 7:06:20 PM  

themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.


There are a LOT of hobbies where you just do not bring up politics.  Historical wargaming is one of these.  In 2013, at a convention in Fredericksburg, VA, I saw a run-down pickup truck with a license plate that said "Flak 88".

Farking wehraboos.
 
2021-01-19 7:06:38 PM  
A reminder not to use Ham radios for crimes?

Didn't think that was necessary before but at this point sure, why not?
 
2021-01-19 7:07:16 PM  

HerptheDerp: Crazy idea time: How about instead of warnings you start pulling licenses?


And issuing heavy fines.

/ Has both a FCC and FAA UAS license, really wish both the FAA and FCC would start fining the shiat out of people abusing the rules making it harder for the rest of us.
 
2021-01-19 7:09:23 PM  

Mi-5: themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.

Completely agree.  You'll find a lot of hams out there that don't do the hobby justice


So, I'm going to get crapped on for this but.... What is the appeal (other than being able to theoretically call space stations)?
 
2021-01-19 7:09:28 PM  
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2021-01-19 7:10:58 PM  
One of my brothers used to have a teletype decoder connected to a radio with like a 10 meter antenna. That thing would pick state media "propaganda" from all over the world, which oddly enough was broadcast as English language text. Apparently receiving that crap and reading it yourself was perfectly legal but disseminating that information to other people was not, which in hindsight seems rather quaint compared to the crap all over the internet.
 
2021-01-19 7:12:20 PM  

baron von doodle: Mi-5: themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.

Completely agree.  You'll find a lot of hams out there that don't do the hobby justice

So, I'm going to get crapped on for this but.... What is the appeal (other than being able to theoretically call space stations)?


Personally I have no desire to talk to others over the radio. But my other hobby (high power rocketry) some of the telemetry devices I use require a ham license to broadcast info back to me real time during a launch.
 
2021-01-19 7:12:52 PM  

SoCalChris: baron von doodle: Mi-5: themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.

Completely agree.  You'll find a lot of hams out there that don't do the hobby justice

So, I'm going to get crapped on for this but.... What is the appeal (other than being able to theoretically call space stations)?

Personally I have no desire to talk to others over the radio. But my other hobby (high power rocketry) some of the telemetry devices I use require a ham license to broadcast info back to me real time during a launch.


Huh. Neat.
 
2021-01-19 7:13:28 PM  

themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.


Yeah at my local ham club i'm afraid to bring up politics because of things like this.

/there is more than one ham operator on fark.
 
2021-01-19 7:14:09 PM  
I count atleast three in this thread.
 
2021-01-19 7:14:55 PM  
CQ CQ CQ
FU FU FU
You're cool
FU
 
2021-01-19 7:17:24 PM  
"Listen all Q members, this is Q master B. member calling. Do not answer if you copy, instructions to follow."

"The trousers are down, I repeat the trousers are DOWN."
"The rocket is armed, I repeat the rocket is ARMED."
"Follow your training and experience for the rest. May god come to you in your hour of need."
 
2021-01-19 7:17:27 PM  
Why are they reminded them?  Just arrest them.
 
2021-01-19 7:18:07 PM  
I was pretty certain that I saw a picture of one of the insurrectionists carrying a Baofeng HT - a notoriously cheap, crappy, and - ironically for those anti-communist America Firsters - Chinese handheld radio.
 
2021-01-19 7:18:30 PM  

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2021-01-19 7:22:13 PM  
CB radio, too. However, CSB, CB's can be used for emergencies. One day I was at Lake Nokoma (sp?) in Minneapolis, a city lake with a park and even a beach, kind of. Some upper middle-aged lady was letting her tiny toy poodle play in the water. Dog's swimming and splashing and having a dog gone good time when suddenly splash and ... dog gone. It never resurfaced. A muskie got it. Yes even in a city lake in Minnesota there are huge predatory fish called Muskellunge that are basically pike on steroids. They can and do eat ducks. Lady who watched her dog just become chum dropped. I needed a phone to call 911 but of course none were around ( did I mention Minnesota sucked? ) so I got on my CB radio and started barking on channel 9. It took about 15 minutes but someone answered. I told them a lady was down at the lake park and vippity-bip the paramedics were there in a few minutes. So don't fark around on the CB ... someone really might be listening.

/ Dog gone, fish food. It never surfaced.
 
2021-01-19 7:22:13 PM  
There seems to be a whole genre of these, lol.

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2021-01-19 7:23:35 PM  
Yeah. In my neck of the woods, there was a brief flourish of derp, even on 146.52. I overheard one be reminded that they can easily identify them regardless of somehow "forgetting" to include their call sign. It didn't last long, because even the most kool-aid drunk derper knows... Hams don't fark around. The smart ones know the FCC giveth, the FCC could taketh away, and God help you if morons cost us 3 and 1.2cm the tech industry wants back.

/None of the derp spilled into the C4FM simplex channels. Infer what you will from that.
 
2021-01-19 7:28:00 PM  

UNC_Samurai: themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.

There are a LOT of hobbies where you just do not bring up politics.  Historical wargaming is one of these.  In 2013, at a convention in Fredericksburg, VA, I saw a run-down pickup truck with a license plate that said "Flak 88".

Farking wehraboos.

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2021-01-19 7:28:39 PM  

baron von doodle: So, I'm going to get crapped on for this but.... What is the appeal (other than being able to theoretically call space stations)?


Honestly, I like messing around with electronics.  I haven't built my own radio (yet), but I do like messing around with antennas, as well as networking and packet radio.  It's also someone relevant to my job in a way.

Basically, a ham license lets you transmit on many different bands across the spectrum, and if you want to do that for one reason or another it's great.  (If you're just interested in poking around receive-only, of course, you can get a software-defined radio and do that without a license.)  Talking to random people over the air is cool, but a lot of hams spend thousands on off-the-shelf equipment and basically just make contacts or chat, which to me kind of gets old.

KarmicDisaster: I have all my ham stuff in boxes in the basement because all extra class hams are tumpers.


Eh, I've met a few of those.

/Extra class
//Not a Trumper
 
2021-01-19 7:28:41 PM  
I received an email about this from my section leader guy and thought the language was kind of terse.  I wonder why...
 
2021-01-19 7:32:00 PM  
So last winter's adult ADHD/SAD intense dive into a hobby to try to keep the existential dread at bay was to buy a few radios capable of picking up shortwave and also SSB, which is the thing that allows you to listen in on ham radio operators. Mostly I just listen on the shortwave bands for the furthest away crazy preacher or propaganda I can pick up, but since the 6th I've felt it was my duty to try to listen to the SSB bands for any insurrection-y conversations. I have no idea how much good it would do if I did catch one though, since all I could do is report the exact time and frequency and whatever they said unless they actually gave their location & call signs while I was listening.  The SSB listening is really bad where I am though and all I've picked up was some people speaking Spanish which more than likely wasn't a MAGA maggot conversation for obvious reasons.

/This year I bought a SAD lamp
//and started doing yoga using the Apple Fitness+ app which is great
///pulled a muscle today :-/
 
2021-01-19 7:33:57 PM  

Derp Du Jour: CQ CQ CQ
FU FU FU
You're cool
FU


Came for some kind of Not C, Q  joke / pun...

leaving disappointed
 
2021-01-19 7:36:33 PM  
So that's what Ditty's been up to.
 
2021-01-19 7:40:38 PM  

Doctor Doodle: themindiswatching: Oh man, this announcement actually raised a significant ruckus in the ham radio community. On one mailing list that I'm on, for instance, the moderators ended up shutting down the thread pretty quickly because it predictably turned political.

/I love the hobby, but American hams in particular hold it back in at least a few ways.

Yeah at my local ham club i'm afraid to bring up politics because of things like this.

/there is more than one ham operator on fark.


Ham checking in from Alberta.
 
2021-01-19 7:41:13 PM  
Yeah, seeing some of the amateur radio groups on web arguing about this has been a train wreck.  Meanwhile, I'm reminded of two things:

1. Crazy old farts on 40m, which I thankfully don't have to talk to since I'm still a Technician license.
2. The insanity that is the 435 Renegade Repeater in LA, which I can pick up on a good day down here.  It's like 4chan before there was an Internet.
 
2021-01-19 7:44:13 PM  

LisaSimpson: Ugh, my Dad would have been so pissed to hear of this that his hobby of 50+ years was being used for this.  Although he was beginning to hear a lot more loons over the airwaves after my parents moved out of New England.  He passed away last August and my last conversation with him was him biatching about Trump.

/He probably would have reported anything he heard
//I miss my dad


My dad is a silent key as well.  He died before Trump but went out absolutely despondent over out national post-911 makeover. He too was put out by the crazy political talk that seemed to be the only subject of small talk. He left some of his favorite nets and even a club he helped found because of it.  And this was a guy who worked in the South China Sea for the USDA late 60s, early 70s, not exactly a bleeding heart but he knew stupid when he saw it, or heard it.
 
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