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(Daily Dot)   Jon 'The Punisher' Bernthal has a few things to say to the insurrectionists at the Capitol riot wearing his logo   (god.dailydot.com) divider line
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2021-01-19 1:36:59 PM  
Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.
 
2021-01-19 1:44:40 PM  
Emmie ask you somnin
 
2021-01-19 2:06:01 PM  
If Marvel/Disney really wanted The Punisher to go away...

Have his final story be about going after corrupt cops in a small town.
 
2021-01-19 3:35:25 PM  
That's good.  And I hate they took that symbol as well - those guys never gave a shiat about the Punisher and I doubt many of them know it used to be a comic.

I used to have the Mike Zeck poster and several of the Jim Lee posters on my wall as a teen.  The Mike Zeck one looked cool and the Jim Lee ones...well, it was Jim Lee - I have his poster pack which has the cool Spider Man/Punisher poster and is basically several of his Punisher - War Journal covers.  I still have a wrapped pack of those Jim Lee posters (never opened).
 
2021-01-19 4:09:44 PM  

Rwa2play: If Marvel/Disney really wanted The Punisher to go away...

Have his final story be about going after corrupt cops in a small town.


Should've said corrupt cops where the chief is involved and he's connected with a US Senator.

That'll piss some of those idiots off when ol' Frank does what he does best.
 
2021-01-19 4:23:50 PM  
My favorite part was the lack of video!
 
2021-01-19 4:24:26 PM  

fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.


The thing about the Punisher is, he doesn't glorify it. He realizes and accepts that he's a horrible person.
 
2021-01-19 4:25:12 PM  

Rwa2play: If Marvel/Disney really wanted The Punisher to go away...

Have his final story be about going after corrupt cops in a small town.


The Punisher has killed cops.
 
2021-01-19 4:26:28 PM  
They like the name "Punisher" and they like the look of a skull motif.

Know who else liked the look of a skull motif?

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2021-01-19 4:26:32 PM  
Apparently, the previous hint was too subtle.


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2021-01-19 4:26:37 PM  
"Just cuz he played the punisher on TV doesn't mean isn't a hollywood liberal elite who should keep his opinions to himself"

- Man of no importance who doesn't keep his opinions to himself.
 
2021-01-19 4:26:39 PM  
Disney can throw the Punisher into the vault along with Song of the South and other badly aging IP
 
2021-01-19 4:27:22 PM  

fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.


There are villains in most stories. Only sociopaths root for them.

hth
 
2021-01-19 4:27:41 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.

The thing about the Punisher is, he doesn't glorify it. He realizes and accepts that he's a horrible person.


Add to that, he doesn't even want to be a part of it, but gets dragged into that shiat anyways, and through some sort of twisted moral compass, decides to finish it.

Well, that's my take on it anyways.

If disney doesn't go after white supremacists on this, then does that mean Walt Disney's head is alive and calling the shots?
 
2021-01-19 4:28:13 PM  

Rwa2play: If Marvel/Disney really wanted The Punisher to go away...

Have his final story be about going after corrupt cops in a small town.



With his gay turtle husband.
 
2021-01-19 4:30:59 PM  

abb3w: Apparently, the previous hint was too subtle.


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That is exactly what every Nazi cop thinks about themselves. They think they are The Punisher.
 
2021-01-19 4:32:09 PM  
They have nothing to do with what Frank stands for or is about.

No, sorry, they do. Frank Castle was originally, and has often been, a Villain for a reason. The only reason he even gets away with Anti-Hero is that somehow he miraculously avoids collateral damage in his murderous rampages, something not possible in real life. Frank Castle is a great fictional character, but that's also because he's drawn from some of the most extreme bits of reality, bits that some in society absolutely strive to emulate and embody.

The Punisher is great fiction, but needs to be kept in context. Frank Castle is a fundamentally broken human being, who finds more fulfillment in life through violence and vengeance than he ever found with his family in life. We have seen *exactly* this mindset on full display recently, particularly at the Capitol Riot with people like Guy Reffitt.
 
2021-01-19 4:33:11 PM  
I mean... the Punisher is explicitly a terrorist, and every time he comes into contact with any other hero it's driven in with a farking sledgehammer that he's the bad guy.  He basically exists only to serve as an example of "doing it wrong" so that other characters can be distinguished as being more genuinely heroic in their methods.

For bonus points, while in his own title he's always 100% righteous from his own point of view, basically any time some other perspective is introduced Castle is shown to be factually wrong, as in he is straight-up murdering people who are explicitly innocent of the things he thinks they're getting away with (well, "attempting to" murder, the other heroes always stop him and he learns a valuable lesson that day because Marvel... then goes right back to the old behavior after "learning" that lesson until it's time to learn it again next crossover).  Kinda unsubtle, the implications on that one.

Basically I'd say that the use of the logo is accidentally more appropriate than the terrorists using it intended it to be, since the message it actually sends happens to be more what they're actually about than what they think it means.
 
2021-01-19 4:33:52 PM  
There are a couple of trucks in my neighborhood with the logo on it.  Amazingly they also have the back the blue flag as well.  I will never understand how that logic leap was missed.
 
2021-01-19 4:33:54 PM  
It's not the punisher logo, it's the Black Lives Matter skull and it has been for a while now. Whenever I see some idiot sporting that, I compliment them on their Black Lives Matter skull.

How do you stop the far-right using the Punisher skull? Make it a Black Lives Matter symbol | Comics and graphic novels | The Guardian
 
2021-01-19 4:33:58 PM  
Crazy that Disney won't do anything about using the Punisher logo to celebrate violence but they'll kick down your door if you have an unauthorized Mickey Mouse pinata at your child's birthday party.

Probably because no one cared about D-List Antihero The Punisher until meatheads adopted his sigil. Can't fark with the revenue stream.
 
2021-01-19 4:34:16 PM  
"I'm with you. Beautiful work. These people are misguided, lost, and afraid. They have nothing to do with what Frank stands for or is about. Big love. J."

Hero tag, lol.

/can we get a 'bare minimum' tag?
//also, new rule: no 'hero' tag unless heroic effort involved.
///make it kinda like the 'newsflash' tag.
 
2021-01-19 4:35:23 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.

The thing about the Punisher is, he doesn't glorify it. He realizes and accepts that he's a horrible person.


Also, as professional actor, Jon knows the difference between fantasy and reality.
 
2021-01-19 4:36:21 PM  

culebra: Crazy that Disney won't do anything about using the Punisher logo to celebrate violence but they'll kick down your door if you have an unauthorized Mickey Mouse pinata at your child's birthday party.

Probably because no one cared about D-List Antihero The Punisher until meatheads adopted his sigil. Can't fark with the revenue stream.


Because it got popularized and lost its pure connection to the Punisher because of Chris Kyle and many other service members putting it in their vehicles/armor/equipment.
 
2021-01-19 4:36:32 PM  

fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men

actually taking the law into their own hands.
 
2021-01-19 4:37:00 PM  
Not really his, but OK.

And I guess I agree with his "lost" assessment. They do indeed seem to have their goddam minds.
 
2021-01-19 4:37:06 PM  

Dr Dreidel: fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.

There are villains in most stories. Only sociopaths root for them.

hth


The Punisher is an anti-hero, not a villain. Your point would be more meaningful if Trump supporters tried to liken Trump to actual villains.

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2021-01-19 4:37:52 PM  

Dr Dreidel: fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.

There are villains in most stories. Only sociopaths root for them.

hth


Nobody's ever the villain in their own story.

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2021-01-19 4:39:03 PM  
Can we all acknowledge that the punisher is not and should not be a hero?

Yes, he represents a "Justice system gone made" but in what way? By murdering and killing "bad guys" which is everything to mobsters abusing the system to low-level robbers. All of them end up dead... He is false god of Reaganomics.

He represents the problem with black/white ideologies on crime. This is expressly brought up multiple times in various storylines and especially in regards to other hero's in universe.

You see the exact same thing with Batman and Huntress. Batman never kills, Huntress has no issue doing so. Is their a large grey area between them? Hell yea, and that's been dissected by far better people than myself. But anyone that looks at Frank Castle or Paul Kersey (Death Wish) and doesn't see an problem in what they do is a MAJOR red flag.

Just like all those Incel's that worship the Joker. Terrorists LOVE their bullshiat insecurity masking iconography.
 
2021-01-19 4:40:06 PM  

Rwa2play: If Marvel/Disney really wanted The Punisher to go away...

Have his final story be about going after corrupt cops in a small town.


And go after rich businessmen golfers.
 
2021-01-19 4:41:11 PM  
I've probably grown to like/understand Frank/Punisher better in the last couple years, what with his view of a hopelessly broken system, very to zero hope for the future, and bastards breaking the law and hurting everyone evading accountability.

/still a psycho
//beautiful psycho
///kill!kill!kill!
 
2021-01-19 4:42:28 PM  
Basically I thought the quote from the 2nd movie covered all of this:

"In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment."
 
2021-01-19 4:45:03 PM  
I still find it hilarious how cops decide that "yes, this ptsd riddled anti-hero who often kills cops, his logo suits me!"
 
2021-01-19 4:47:15 PM  

Rwa2play: Rwa2play: If Marvel/Disney really wanted The Punisher to go away...

Have his final story be about going after corrupt cops in a small town.

Should've said corrupt cops where the chief is involved and he's connected with a US Senator.

That'll piss some of those idiots off when ol' Frank does what he does best.


Season 2 of the Netflix show does some of that. It's a wealthy couple trying to protect a Senator's reputation and they use a white supremacist turned religious leader to go against Frank.
 
2021-01-19 4:47:35 PM  
I can think of a more fitting Marvel logo they can start using.

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2021-01-19 4:48:12 PM  
I saw a giant truck with a huge decal with a Q, and the Punisher skull inside the bowl of the letter.

It's probably the douchiest one I've seen so far.
 
2021-01-19 4:48:42 PM  
I've always been a sucker for a revenge story.  I've always liked The Punisher, Mack Bolan, and John Wick type entertainment.  Fictional entertainment.
I'm not keen on military types adopting the logo, but I get kids in the military thinking a certain way.  Law enforcement identifying with him should damn near be grounds for dismissal IMO.
 
2021-01-19 4:48:57 PM  

fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.


Came here to say the very same thing.

In fact, the whole superhero genre is full of that kind of thing:  People taking the law into their own hands, and not having to face any justice themselves or any legal restraints on their behavior.  You think cops are bad?  Pfft.

One of the reasons why I've never found the genre appealing.
 
2021-01-19 4:50:07 PM  
The reason vigilantes or "he might not play by the rules, but he gets the job done" type cops work on TV is because it's fiction.  Nobody should actually want that type of anarchy in real life.  But if the Rock wants to work with Statham in order to save the world on the big screen?  Sign me the fark up.
 
2021-01-19 4:50:34 PM  
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2021-01-19 4:52:29 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.

The thing about the Punisher is, he doesn't glorify it. He realizes and accepts that he's a horrible person.


Which was the great thing about Bernthal that made his character interesting in the Netflix series.  He's a farked-up, broken, haunted individual.  Season two was an absolute train wreck however.
 
2021-01-19 4:55:26 PM  
They don't care.
 
2021-01-19 4:55:44 PM  
The Punisher skull is finally used appropriately (well, as appropriately as a skull logo ever can) and some people think it's wrong? What's next, complaining about the negative connotations of the Jolly Rodger?

Good guys don't wear skulls.
 
2021-01-19 4:59:51 PM  
This was my first thought when I watched a few episodes to figure out the narrative, characters, etc - "these Blue Lives Matter nuts are missing this guy's character, altogether"...yes, the government seems to be a distant and malevolent force - but at no point is he aiming his rancor at liberals or Democratic factions of the government as the problem, exclusively.
 
2021-01-19 4:59:51 PM  
If you take out his murderous ways, The Punisher is Antifa
 
2021-01-19 4:59:56 PM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: "Just cuz he played the punisher on TV doesn't mean isn't a hollywood liberal elite who should keep his opinions to himself"

- Man of no importance who doesn't keep his opinions to himself.


Oh, you mean Kevin Sorbo?
 
2021-01-19 5:00:38 PM  

fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.


The Punisher's creators have explained this ad nauseum. The Punisher is an anti-hero for entertainment purposes, not a role model for real life.
 
2021-01-19 5:01:33 PM  
Man I hated Shane in The Walking Dead but I loved Frank Castle in The Punisher.

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um oh yeah. Also I love that he trashes white supremacists sporting the Punisher logo.
 
2021-01-19 5:02:58 PM  

g.fro: The Punisher skull is finally used appropriately (well, as appropriately as a skull logo ever can) and some people think it's wrong? What's next, complaining about the negative connotations of the Jolly Rodger?

Good guys don't wear skulls.


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O RLY?
 
2021-01-19 5:12:14 PM  

fluffy_pope: Actor who played a man taking the law into his own hands denounces men taking the law into their own hands.


I'm sure actors who play serial killers don't really care too much for real serial killers either.
 
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