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2021-01-19 9:17:14 AM  
Skimmed the article, there are some good points here. Figuring why you are unhappy will help you choose the correct company/career you land on.
From my own experience, this is very helpful. I despised my previous employer with the force of a thousand suns, but the pay was too good since I was completing night school to get out.

Life is all about small wins when the big ones are unattainable.
 
2021-01-19 9:26:21 AM  
There are always options. You may not like any of them, but they are options nonetheless.
 
2021-01-19 9:35:49 AM  
If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.
 
2021-01-19 9:39:39 AM  
I stuck it out until they laid me off.
 
2021-01-19 9:39:45 AM  

snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.


The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.
 
2021-01-19 9:44:24 AM  

jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.


I used to work I finance at Boeing, and during recent history, they basically wanted us to work Amazon-like hours, but not get paid with Amazon-like salaries.

The whole company has turned into a joke.

A friend/former co-worker is still there, and she can't wait to get a job somewhere else.
 
2021-01-19 9:50:36 AM  

jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.


Honestly that is probably why neither of them worked their way up.

My dad stayed in the same spot for 20 years and my mom never tried to grow her cleaning buisness larger than what she could handle on her own and walk away from.

I am at that same point now with my career my next promotion is gonna put me in that 55 hour plus work week and lots of travel and since I am single and want that level of responsibility I want it. But if I was in a different place in life I could see myself just staying put another 20 years and retiring from my current position.
 
2021-01-19 9:54:07 AM  
You can't talk to me like that, Boss
I don't care who you are
If you don't want to have to hang your own drywall
Don't push me too far

Hometown work ain't hard to come by
Hometown workers are
You might be the one running the show, but
That doesn't mean you're in charge

I was looking for a job when I found this one
Don't need the work like you need the work done
You look like you're under pressure
I was looking for a job when I met ya
 
2021-01-19 9:54:44 AM  
Unemployment and poverty sound like fun...
 
2021-01-19 9:58:07 AM  

jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.


Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.
 
2021-01-19 10:01:21 AM  

xanadian: F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2021-01-19 10:01:22 AM  

xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.


You just reminded me.....

For the non-union employees, Boeing recently told them that annual pay raises are going away, and they Weill receive limited stock with a three year vesting period.  Yeesh.
 
2021-01-19 10:07:18 AM  

xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.


What's a Christmas bonus?
 
2021-01-19 10:24:44 AM  

jayphat: xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.

What's a Christmas bonus?


Heh, I've literally gotten a Christmas bonus twice in my life.  The first one was from the owner of a grocery store I worked at in High School, he was a Muslim, the other was from a factory I worked at, owned by an old Jewish guy.
 
2021-01-19 10:38:10 AM  

electricjebus: jayphat: xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.

What's a Christmas bonus?

Heh, I've literally gotten a Christmas bonus twice in my life.  The first one was from the owner of a grocery store I worked at in High School, he was a Muslim, the other was from a factory I worked at, owned by an old Jewish guy.


Isn't it amazing the people most likely to celebrate the holiday don't really give a fark about you except if you show up and produce?
 
2021-01-19 10:40:24 AM  

jayphat: xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.

What's a Christmas bonus?


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2021-01-19 10:41:26 AM  

jayphat: xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.

What's a Christmas bonus?


I work for a local city government. There are no bonuses, and no renegotiation of pay, unless you can prove you're in a different job tier or something. I'm at step 6 of 7 in my pay scale, so in a year, I'll be maxed out anyway. 4 more years until I'm eligible for the pension, but even 2 months after I started (little more than a year ago), I knew I wouldn't last here. I was actively looking to leave, and then COVID.

I do a whole lot of nothing, which is nice, but this whole place is just begging to be let back into the office. Seriously, its 100 people in this dept who hate working from home and can't wait to waste time in the office. One group even tried to have a potluck in November, during a pandemic. Because yup, that's the time I want to be sharing food!
 
2021-01-19 11:08:24 AM  
I had a phone interview yesterday while i was on my jobsite, right next to my boss so I'm getting a kick...

/he's not too happy with me
 
2021-01-19 11:16:58 AM  

The_Sponge: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

I used to work I finance at Boeing, and during recent history, they basically wanted us to work Amazon-like hours, but not get paid with Amazon-like salaries.

The whole company has turned into a joke.

A friend/former co-worker is still there, and she can't wait to get a job somewhere else.


Boeing owes the USA $150,000,000,000,000,000 they've stolen and wasted failing at everything they do. Crappy work, shoddy engineering. We could cure the hunger problem here in the USA if we STOP GIVING BOEING FAILURE MONEY.
 
2021-01-19 1:28:20 PM  

xanadian: Unemployment and poverty sound like fun...


Probably more fun than working 80 hours week and still being poor.
 
2021-01-19 1:29:52 PM  

psilocyberguy: Boeing owes the USA $150,000,000,000,000,000 they've stolen and wasted failing at everything they do. Crappy work, shoddy engineering. We could cure the hunger problem here in the USA if we STOP GIVING BOEING FAILURE MONEY.


No, we can't do that, because we invented airplanes, and we lead the way, and we have the best airplanes in the world, and nobody can beat us at AIRPLANES. What about the ECONOMY?

What a farce. How do you guys like it now that it's right out in the open that humans and quality of life aren't as important as just keeping our big businesses going?
Well, you liked it just fine until now, while you were spending all that money from some bullshiat job where you sold everything and never worried about tomorrow.
 
2021-01-20 7:28:41 AM  
To the government employee at the start of the article
Youve got a cush job Been there 17 years decent benefits and a work schedule that gives you family time

Eyes and ears open
Mouth shut
Head down

Suck it up until you can find another department to transfer to

Dont be your supervision Notice how they get fired You wont be any different
 
2021-01-20 8:57:16 AM  

The_Sponge: I stuck it out until they laid me off.



Capital can move.  change countries if necessary.  Labor cannot.

and when Labor cannot move then you don't have a Free Trade system.

you have a Precarious Proletariate, or Precariat.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precari​a​t
 
2021-01-20 8:58:42 AM  

dwlah: To the government employee at the start of the article
Youve got a cush job Been there 17 years decent benefits and a work schedule that gives you family time

Eyes and ears open
Mouth shut
Head down

Suck it up until you can find another department to transfer to

Dont be your supervision Notice how they get fired You wont be any different



Absolutely

don't ever think you are Free in Murca if you work for someone else.

only the financially independent are Free.
 
2021-01-20 8:59:27 AM  

iamskibibitz: xanadian: Unemployment and poverty sound like fun...

Probably more fun than working 80 hours week and still being poor.



sit at home stock owners kinda' like it.
 
2021-01-20 9:00:34 AM  

jayphat: electricjebus: jayphat: xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.

What's a Christmas bonus?

Heh, I've literally gotten a Christmas bonus twice in my life.  The first one was from the owner of a grocery store I worked at in High School, he was a Muslim, the other was from a factory I worked at, owned by an old Jewish guy.

Isn't it amazing the people most likely to celebrate the holiday don't really give a fark about you except if you show up and produce?



its called Run Amuck Capitalism and it's destroying what is left of our Democracy.
 
2021-01-20 9:01:39 AM  

psilocyberguy: The_Sponge: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

I used to work I finance at Boeing, and during recent history, they basically wanted us to work Amazon-like hours, but not get paid with Amazon-like salaries.

The whole company has turned into a joke.

A friend/former co-worker is still there, and she can't wait to get a job somewhere else.

Boeing owes the USA $150,000,000,000,000,000 they've stolen and wasted failing at everything they do. Crappy work, shoddy engineering. We could cure the hunger problem here in the USA if we STOP GIVING BOEING FAILURE MONEY.



Boeing's lazy sit at home stock owners kinda' like it.
 
2021-01-20 9:02:51 AM  

jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.



and you thought the Civil War solved the Slave issue.    silly
 
2021-01-20 9:05:12 AM  

xanadian: jayphat: snoopy2zero: If you have a family and don't like what you do but it keeps your family fed and what not ? Then let your job be a job and live your life outside of those 40 hours.

My mom cleaned houses and my dad worked at a power plant. Neither liked what they did but they knew it provided a good life for our family and because their jobs were just jobs they used every bit of vacation/sick days they could and enjoyed fanily time and had hobbies and interests outside of work.

The problem becomes when that 40 hours becomes 55 and you can't see your family PLUS you can't find something equivalent that pays as well. I call it the senior status paradox. You're a senior employee with a company, which means you're at the top of the pay scale, and they know you have no other options so they try to fark you over on your workload knowing you can't go anywhere else.

Or...

You can be a "junior engineer" with a contractor where you're worked 55 70 80 ??? hours a week for shiat pay coz you're working your way up the ladder.  

The place I worked for didn't give cash bonuses at Xmas.  We usually got a small ham and a coffee cup with the company logo on it.

F*ck that place with a rusty cactus.



that was their 3 cent tip on the table.
 
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