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(KRON 4)   California refinery being investigated for flaring. Previous violations include boot cut and bell bottoms   (kron4.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Richmond, California, San Francisco Bay Area, Saturday night, Flare, Chevron refinery, Safety, Atmosphere, San Francisco  
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469 clicks; posted to Business » on 18 Jan 2021 at 8:42 AM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-01-18 2:53:26 AM  
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2021-01-18 3:33:49 AM  
WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7
 
2021-01-18 5:57:40 AM  
I don't know about ya'll, but I am pro-corduroys!
 
2021-01-18 8:34:24 AM  
From when I was a little boy... my bell bottom days in fact.... I always viewed flaring as a huge waste. I still do.

I am not OCD or whatever. Waste just makes me a little sick. It makes sense economically sometimes, and in such cases, I always look for some way to avoid it. One would think that all this natural gas could be put to use somehow. Like heating a city or something for heaven's sake.

It also needs to be said that flaring is better than releasing the methane into the atmosphere. It is the lesser of the two evils. Not good, but... could be worse.
 
2021-01-18 9:20:30 AM  

styckx: WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7


You're probably seeing the pilot for the flare tips, not a reportable event-level of flaring. The pilots are lit, like in a furnace, so that when there is a release of hydrocarbon that it ignites.

It may look like the pilots are moving (indicating high flow) for a few reasons, most likely due to wind at elevation that's not present on the ground. There is very little if any flow going to the pilots.

Governments tend to get involved during flaring for several reasons, either the flaring had smoke associated (showing incomplete combustion) or total pounds of material released (after combustion which changes composition) exceeded a threshold.
 
2021-01-18 10:22:01 AM  

styckx: WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7


Chevron is not without blame, but CA has wanted this specific refinery gone for decades. If someone so much as farts there, it sets off alarms in Sacramento.
 
2021-01-18 11:03:31 AM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: styckx: WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7

Chevron is not without blame, but CA has wanted this specific refinery gone for decades. If someone so much as farts there, it sets off alarms in Sacramento.


Easiest way to get rid of it would be to get rid of a lot of cars. Which is heresy in Cali.
 
2021-01-18 12:00:26 PM  
GOTTA HAVE THEM APPLE BOTTOM JEANS
 
2021-01-18 12:07:02 PM  
Something happened somewhere.  Sometimes the something is allowed to occur and sometimes it isn't.  Because we don't know, somepeople are going somewhere to see if something happened at the right sometime.
 
2021-01-18 2:55:13 PM  
Bay Area refineries at least used to flare illegally as a matter of routine. It was cheaper to pay the fines than to do anything about the conditions that necessitated it.
 
2021-01-18 3:00:00 PM  
Ive seen the richmond chevron refinery flare before, it releases a huge cloud of very black smoke and really stinks of crude oil. I generally wouldnt stay in richmond past about 3 pm, that was when the crackers would come out and start seeking their rocks for the evening...
 
2021-01-18 3:09:24 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: styckx: WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7

Chevron is not without blame, but CA has wanted this specific refinery gone for decades. If someone so much as farts there, it sets off alarms in Sacramento.


Because every few years, there's a massive fire and/or explosion at that refinery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron​_​Richmond_Refinery#Incidents
 
2021-01-18 5:24:00 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Keyser_Soze_Death: styckx: WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7

Chevron is not without blame, but CA has wanted this specific refinery gone for decades. If someone so much as farts there, it sets off alarms in Sacramento.

Because every few years, there's a massive fire and/or explosion at that refinery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_​Richmond_Refinery#Incidents



Three times since 1989.

Chevron gets hounded and sometimes fined for not completing all the necessary upgrades and maintenance which leads to these problems, but whenever they shut it down to do those things they get pressured to restart operations before everything is done because the price of gas goes-up $1/gal in the Bay area. Funny thing is, this single refinery being offline for a month or two should not affect the price very  much.

/Did a short contract job (instrumentation replacement) at this refinery right after the 1999 explosion.
//Previous poster is right about getting out of Richmond before dark.
///There shall be three slashies
 
2021-01-18 6:45:09 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: RoyFokker'sGhost: Keyser_Soze_Death: styckx: WTF. An investigation is required in California for a 15 minute flaring? Most of the refineries in New Jersey are flaring 24/7

Chevron is not without blame, but CA has wanted this specific refinery gone for decades. If someone so much as farts there, it sets off alarms in Sacramento.

Because every few years, there's a massive fire and/or explosion at that refinery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_​Richmond_Refinery#Incidents


Three times since 1989.

Chevron gets hounded and sometimes fined for not completing all the necessary upgrades and maintenance which leads to these problems, but whenever they shut it down to do those things they get pressured to restart operations before everything is done because the price of gas goes-up $1/gal in the Bay area. Funny thing is, this single refinery being offline for a month or two should not affect the price very  much.

/Did a short contract job (instrumentation replacement) at this refinery right after the 1999 explosion.
//Previous poster is right about getting out of Richmond before dark.
///There shall be three slashies


Oh, it's beyond that...

My teacher for Intro to Visual Basic did contract work for Chevron, specifically their bookkeeping system. Apparently, Chevron and PG&E both have this funny little thing where they think routine, annual maintenance can be skipped and the maintenance funds redirected to executive bonuses.

/lived and went to college in the Bay Area
 
2021-01-19 4:55:00 AM  
Fortunately, we are going to stop our fossil fuel habit and build an economy on renewables
 
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