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2021-01-17 1:43:46 PM  
That stink of racism.
Hard to wash off.
It sticks to everything.
States, political parties, judges, cops, lawyers, juries, prisons, schools, higher education systems, sports, everything
 
2021-01-17 2:04:07 PM  
In Georgia, Nathan Deal quietly changed Lee's Birthday* and Confederate Memorial Day to "State Holiday" in his annual proclamation. Although there was a little noise about it, Kemp has done the same thing.

*Lee's Birthday is in January, but it was long deferred to the day after Thanksgiving to make a 4-day weekend.

Georgia takes Washington's Birthday, not President's day, because they didn't want to celebrate Lincoln. That one is taken as an extra day around Christmas.
 
2021-01-17 2:17:07 PM  
Hubby works for the state.

They removed Lee-Jackson Day (which was a 4 day weekend) and replaced it with Juneteenth.

*I'm okay with this.*
 
2021-01-17 2:27:21 PM  
It's only been a century and a half. You damn yankees are always rushing around.
 
2021-01-17 3:29:37 PM  
I'm proud to have had a minor influence in this by helping turn Virginia blue.
 
2021-01-17 3:29:47 PM  
Just because it's racist doesn't mean you can destroy our nation's history. Except for all the times we've done exactly that. But this time it's different.
 
2021-01-17 3:30:55 PM  
Celebrate the day gloriously. Go to the monuments and throw copious amounts of animal shiat. Treat them as if they were in stockades.
 
2021-01-17 3:33:13 PM  
My boss and I were just talking about this on Friday.  We work closely with VDOT, and they usually get the day off as well as MLK day.  Seemed a little hypocritical, "we respect your civil rights as slaves!"
 
2021-01-17 3:33:59 PM  
The death throes of the white nationalist party is not pretty.
 
2021-01-17 3:34:54 PM  
So it started out in 1921 -- in wake of the last time "America First" was a thing. And a full 55 years after the end of the Civil War. Consider that. Not 1871, or shortly after the end of conflict - 1921.
 
2021-01-17 3:36:21 PM  
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2021-01-17 3:41:27 PM  
In before "Bah mah heritage!! You erashing History!!!"
 
2021-01-17 3:41:41 PM  
It's on the books as a Texas state holiday (skeleton staff). "Confederate Heroes Day (not a Swiss or Turkish day) bumps up against MLK day.  Perhaps it should be renamed False Equivalence Day.   Go crazy making a sign that spells that correctly.
 
2021-01-17 3:45:26 PM  

Summercat: I'm proud to have had a minor influence in this by helping turn Virginia blue.


Proud Virginian by adoption here too.
Putting my 5 cents in every general, off-year and off-off-year election during last two decades, to vote all and any racist out.
 
2021-01-17 3:48:19 PM  
Great. Now I completely forgot everything about the civil war. Way to you PC thugs.
 
2021-01-17 3:49:18 PM  
In years when there isn't an election, let's celebrate Allen Dulles Day, a holiday I just made up for this thread.

A day for straight people to fly rainbow flags and eat rainbow foods. Local fast foods given a tiny tax break for selling rainbow stuff.

The holiday can be about visually disturbing Vladimir Putin and loving your American neighbors.
 
2021-01-17 3:49:30 PM  

Heraclitus: The death throes of the white nationalist party is not pretty.


But it is glorious to watch
 
2021-01-17 3:51:53 PM  

Purple_Urkle: In years when there isn't an election, let's celebrate Allen Dulles Day, a holiday I just made up for this thread.

A day for straight people to fly rainbow flags and eat rainbow foods. Local fast foods given a tiny tax break for selling rainbow stuff.

The holiday can be about visually disturbing Vladimir Putin and loving your American neighbors.


Straight people too. Sorry. Gay people are absolutely welcome for Allen Dulles Day!!!

American Pride!!!
Putin can run and hide!
He fears our ice cream!
Rainbows make him scream!
🎵🎵
 
2021-01-17 3:53:21 PM  
They have a bloody holiday for that? Still? They even had one to begin with? Wow! How could that ever be tolerated? Fascinating.

No wonder these southern racists thought they'd get away with everything. Even secessionist states obviously got away with the equivalent of a slap on the wrist.
 
2021-01-17 3:57:38 PM  

silo123j: Hubby works for the state.

They removed Lee-Jackson Day (which was a 4 day weekend) and replaced it with Juneteenth.

*I'm okay with this.*


Juneteenth kinda rocks. I never went to one of the big formal festival settings when I lived in Houston because ... mainly traffic, but live music, carnival rides, beauty contests, kids shiat, food, food, food and fireworks? Sign me up!
 
2021-01-17 3:57:56 PM  
Oh, it's even worse than the article lets on. It used to be called "Lee-Jackson-King Day", lumping in the greatest Civil Rights leader of our times with two Confederate Generals who wanted to keep black people in chains:

Lee-Jackson-King Day was a holiday celebrated in the Commonwealth of Virginia from 1984 to 2000 as a combination of Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Beginning in 2000 the state observed them as two distinct holidays.

Robert E. Lee's birthday (January 19, 1807) has been celebrated as a Virginia holiday since 1889. In 1904, the legislature added the birthday of Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson (January 21, 1824) to the holiday, and Lee-Jackson Day was born.[1]

In 1983, the United States Congress declared January 15 to be a national holiday in honor of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.. Since 1978, Virginia had celebrated King's birthday in conjunction with New Year's Day. To align with the federal holiday, the Virginia legislature combined King's celebration with the existing Lee-Jackson holiday, in tribute to "defenders of causes."[2]

In 2000, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore proposed splitting Lee-Jackson-King Day into two separate holidays after debate arose over whether the nature of the holiday which simultaneously celebrated the lives of two Confederate generals who fought to defend slavery and a civil rights icon was incongruous.[3] The measure was approved and Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebrated separately, with Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the third Monday in January and Lee-Jackson Day three days earlier on the preceding Friday.[4][5] The Lee-Jackson holiday was itself eliminated in 202
 
2021-01-17 3:57:57 PM  
Oh, it's even worse than the article lets on. It used to be called "Lee-Jackson-King Day", lumping in the greatest Civil Rights leader of our times with two Confederate Generals who wanted to keep black people in chains:

Lee-Jackson-King Day was a holiday celebrated in the Commonwealth of Virginia from 1984 to 2000 as a combination of Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Beginning in 2000 the state observed them as two distinct holidays.

Robert E. Lee's birthday (January 19, 1807) has been celebrated as a Virginia holiday since 1889. In 1904, the legislature added the birthday of Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson (January 21, 1824) to the holiday, and Lee-Jackson Day was born.[1]

In 1983, the United States Congress declared January 15 to be a national holiday in honor of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.. Since 1978, Virginia had celebrated King's birthday in conjunction with New Year's Day. To align with the federal holiday, the Virginia legislature combined King's celebration with the existing Lee-Jackson holiday, in tribute to "defenders of causes."[2]

In 2000, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore proposed splitting Lee-Jackson-King Day into two separate holidays after debate arose over whether the nature of the holiday which simultaneously celebrated the lives of two Confederate generals who fought to defend slavery and a civil rights icon was incongruous.[3] The measure was approved and Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebrated separately, with Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the third Monday in January and Lee-Jackson Day three days earlier on the preceding Friday.[4][5] The Lee-Jackson holiday was itself eliminated in 2020
 
2021-01-17 3:58:17 PM  
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Antifa erasing racist imagery decades ago.
 
2021-01-17 3:59:49 PM  

Heraclitus: The death throes of the white nationalist party is not pretty.


Maybe. But watching it die is.
 
2021-01-17 3:59:57 PM  
The state of Georgia used to celebrate Confederate Memorial Day. I don't think it is still a state holiday, but it was until not too long ago.
 
2021-01-17 4:02:27 PM  
Well damn... and all this time I thought it was about celebrating Bruce Lee and Jermaine Jackson's secret diverse partnership
 
2021-01-17 4:02:41 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: Heraclitus: The death throes of the white nationalist party is not pretty.

But it is glorious to watch


The greatest crime humans ever committed was stopping to kill nazis/racial purists/farker white people with delusions of grandeur after WWII.

I would love to hear "the drone pilot, lt. Johnson got a presidential high five for bombing an oath keepers meeting at an Idaho Olive Garden"
 
2021-01-17 4:04:49 PM  

Walker: Oh, it's even worse than the article lets on. It used to be called "Lee-Jackson-King Day", lumping in the greatest Civil Rights leader of our times with two Confederate Generals who wanted to keep black people in chains:

Lee-Jackson-King Day was a holiday celebrated in the Commonwealth of Virginia from 1984 to 2000 as a combination of Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Beginning in 2000 the state observed them as two distinct holidays.

Robert E. Lee's birthday (January 19, 1807) has been celebrated as a Virginia holiday since 1889. In 1904, the legislature added the birthday of Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson (January 21, 1824) to the holiday, and Lee-Jackson Day was born.[1]

In 1983, the United States Congress declared January 15 to be a national holiday in honor of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.. Since 1978, Virginia had celebrated King's birthday in conjunction with New Year's Day. To align with the federal holiday, the Virginia legislature combined King's celebration with the existing Lee-Jackson holiday, in tribute to "defenders of causes."[2]

In 2000, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore proposed splitting Lee-Jackson-King Day into two separate holidays after debate arose over whether the nature of the holiday which simultaneously celebrated the lives of two Confederate generals who fought to defend slavery and a civil rights icon was incongruous.[3] The measure was approved and Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebrated separately, with Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the third Monday in January and Lee-Jackson Day three days earlier on the preceding Friday.[4][5] The Lee-Jackson holiday was itself eliminated in 2020


Holy shiat!
 
2021-01-17 4:07:23 PM  
the article is misleading about the events in Lexington. That's not the city doing that, it's the f'ing Sons of Confederate Veterans. the city is run by a bunch of libs.
 
2021-01-17 4:08:29 PM  

Paddy: Walker: Oh, it's even worse than the article lets on. It used to be called "Lee-Jackson-King Day", lumping in the greatest Civil Rights leader of our times with two Confederate Generals who wanted to keep black people in chains:

Lee-Jackson-King Day was a holiday celebrated in the Commonwealth of Virginia from 1984 to 2000 as a combination of Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Beginning in 2000 the state observed them as two distinct holidays.

Robert E. Lee's birthday (January 19, 1807) has been celebrated as a Virginia holiday since 1889. In 1904, the legislature added the birthday of Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson (January 21, 1824) to the holiday, and Lee-Jackson Day was born.[1]

In 1983, the United States Congress declared January 15 to be a national holiday in honor of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.. Since 1978, Virginia had celebrated King's birthday in conjunction with New Year's Day. To align with the federal holiday, the Virginia legislature combined King's celebration with the existing Lee-Jackson holiday, in tribute to "defenders of causes."[2]

In 2000, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore proposed splitting Lee-Jackson-King Day into two separate holidays after debate arose over whether the nature of the holiday which simultaneously celebrated the lives of two Confederate generals who fought to defend slavery and a civil rights icon was incongruous.[3] The measure was approved and Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebrated separately, with Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the third Monday in January and Lee-Jackson Day three days earlier on the preceding Friday.[4][5] The Lee-Jackson holiday was itself eliminated in 2020

Holy shiat!


I'm in shock.
 
2021-01-17 4:10:33 PM  

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Stolen...that's hilarious
 
2021-01-17 4:11:18 PM  

edmo: It's only been a century and a half. You damn yankees are always rushing around.



We might be slow, but we do the right thing eventually. After trying everything else, of course.

/ Been working on making Virginia Blue since the early 1980s.
 
2021-01-17 4:11:27 PM  

Paddy: They have a bloody holiday for that? Still? They even had one to begin with? Wow! How could that ever be tolerated? Fascinating.

No wonder these southern racists thought they'd get away with everything. Even secessionist states obviously got away with the equivalent of a slap on the wrist.


VA was a huge part of the Confederacy. Half the farking state (commonwealth) is named Lee, though they're slowly renaming it.

Until very recently you could start at Lee's old house (Arlington Cemetery) and travel all the way to Leesburg (named after Lee's father, Lee) some 40 miles away almost entirely on roads with "Lee" in the name, through a half dozen areas with the name "Lee" and passing near at least one school bearing his name. IIRC the only road on the journey not named after him is the stretch from Arlington Cemetery to Lee Highway, and that road is (was?) Jefferson Farking Davis Highway.
 
2021-01-17 4:19:13 PM  
Well, to be fair, the Virginia State Legislature only recently passed back into the control of sane, educated people.

They've had a *lot* to do, and I think they've been trying to prioritize things that have more direct impact to help people.  By comparison, this is more symbolic, but I'm damn glad they've gotten around to it.
 
2021-01-17 4:20:18 PM  

Purple_Urkle: In years when there isn't an election, let's celebrate Allen Dulles Day, a holiday I just made up for this thread.

A day for straight people to fly rainbow flags and eat rainbow foods. Local fast foods given a tiny tax break for selling rainbow stuff.

The holiday can be about visually disturbing Vladimir Putin and loving your American neighbors.


And doing unspeakable things with bananas

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2021-01-17 4:23:04 PM  

Subtonic: Great. Now I completely forgot everything about the civil war. Way to you PC thugs.


The what in the what now..?

I've heard rumors about it, but I haven't seen any statues, so it's probably fake.
 
2021-01-17 4:24:18 PM  

Target Builder: Paddy: They have a bloody holiday for that? Still? They even had one to begin with? Wow! How could that ever be tolerated? Fascinating.

No wonder these southern racists thought they'd get away with everything. Even secessionist states obviously got away with the equivalent of a slap on the wrist.

VA was a huge part of the Confederacy. Half the farking state (commonwealth) is named Lee, though they're slowly renaming it.

Until very recently you could start at Lee's old house (Arlington Cemetery) and travel all the way to Leesburg (named after Lee's father, Lee) some 40 miles away almost entirely on roads with "Lee" in the name, through a half dozen areas with the name "Lee" and passing near at least one school bearing his name. IIRC the only road on the journey not named after him is the stretch from Arlington Cemetery to Lee Highway, and that road is (was?) Jefferson Farking Davis Highway.


Not to mention the state's weird tendency to meld names together.

So if you have 'Arlington' and 'Shirley' in close proximity, the area between them becomes 'Shirlington'.

Near me, the strip mall at the corner of Braddock Road and Backlick Road is known as 'Bradlick Center'.

Just...  WTF?
 
2021-01-17 4:31:13 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Well, to be fair, the Virginia State Legislature only recently passed back into the control of sane, educated people.

They've had a *lot* to do, and I think they've been trying to prioritize things that have more direct impact to help people.  By comparison, this is more symbolic, but I'm damn glad they've gotten around to it.


To be faaaaaair . . . .
 
2021-01-17 4:31:48 PM  

Summercat: I'm proud to have had a minor influence in this by helping turn Virginia blue.


(No snark) Congratulafions.
Northam has been doing a great job bringing VA into the 21st century from the 19th.
One can only hope that the idea will spread fo ther states.
 
2021-01-17 4:34:20 PM  
Yet, in Texas Tuesday is Confederate Hero's day (as if a Confederate Hero exists)
 
2021-01-17 4:35:04 PM  
My county removed Columbus Day as a holiday this year and replaced it with Juneteenth.
 
2021-01-17 4:35:20 PM  
Jesus, these people and "our heritage." What tf is there to be proud about? You actually wanna keeping celebrating a war you lost that you fought so you could keep making money by denying the human rights of other?

I'm usually more eloquent, but just stfu already. Take your statues and your flags and shove them right up your ass.
 
2021-01-17 4:35:44 PM  

Subtonic: Great. Now I completely forgot everything about the civil war. Way to you PC thugs.


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2021-01-17 4:37:22 PM  

Biff_Steel: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Well, to be fair, the Virginia State Legislature only recently passed back into the control of sane, educated people.

They've had a *lot* to do, and I think they've been trying to prioritize things that have more direct impact to help people.  By comparison, this is more symbolic, but I'm damn glad they've gotten around to it.

To be faaaaaair . . . .


Blast Hardcheese!
 
2021-01-17 4:39:37 PM  
Yes, Virginia, there is a Supremacy Clause.
 
2021-01-17 4:42:57 PM  

Subtonic: Great. Now I completely forgot everything about the civil war. Way to you PC thugs.


Yeah, I have no idea how I'm going to teach my daughter about civil war now that the statues have been removed.

I have nothing to show her.

What has our country become?
 
2021-01-17 4:45:27 PM  

Heraclitus: The death throes of the white nationalist party is not pretty.


Oh, it is fun but I fear it will be like this.

Dead Parrot Sketch (the original)
Youtube z9SMUzj-_4Q
 
2021-01-17 4:53:24 PM  

Jairzinho: In before "Bah mah heritage!! You erashing History!!!"


You should wait until after those chucklefarks show up.   I love nothing more than discussing exactly what "mah heritage" means:  "Treason to support slavery."

I mean, that is a type of heritage, I guess.
 
2021-01-17 4:53:45 PM  

Rapmaster2000: My county removed Columbus Day as a holiday this year and replaced it with Juneteenth.


We still get Columbus Day off, but they said we have to feel a little bad about it.
 
2021-01-17 4:57:48 PM  
Ending racist holidays and tearing down racist statues is destroying history. But the President trying to force teachers to not teach about any of the bad shiat America did is patriotism.
 
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