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(AP News)   Megachurch pastor convicted for fraud scheme, rather creepy smile (pic in link)   (apnews.com) divider line
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2021-01-17 7:24:40 AM  
50 votes:
Shouldn't ALL megachurch pastors be convicted of fraud?
 
2021-01-17 6:15:43 AM  
45 votes:
Megachurch pastor - fraud is a given.  Convicted of it, that's rare.
 
2021-01-17 7:28:54 AM  
35 votes:
Its not the Wharton trained con artist we wanted to see sent to prison most, but it's a start.
 
2021-01-17 7:25:32 AM  
34 votes:
Caldwell has a master's degree from the Wharton School of Business

Hmm, so it's a grifter factory.
 
2021-01-17 7:44:46 AM  
26 votes:
I was a little confused at first till I read he was pinched for stealing from the investor class. That makes sense as in America you can openly con vulnerable elderly people all day long, but when you go dipping into the pockets of the wealthy then the courts get involved.
 
2021-01-17 6:12:27 AM  
25 votes:
Good. Only how many more to go?
 
2021-01-17 7:43:51 AM  
24 votes:
Tax churches investments, property not used specifically for worship (square footage of sanctuary), income not from donations.

Churches (Catholic, LDS, & sometimes little storefronts) often have major portfolios of businesses, apartment blocks, strip malls, etc. The massive homes of the pastors are not on the tax rolls, and neither are any of these, depriving communities of tax income needed for schools, hospitals, ... Charities like churches take money from programs for the poor. Tax 'em!
 
2021-01-17 7:21:18 AM  
24 votes:
If he'd been white, it would have been probation.
 
2021-01-17 7:39:39 AM  
23 votes:
That's low on the list of creepy megachurch pastor smiles. See any picture of Joel Osteen. And then there's Kenneth Copeland:

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2021-01-17 7:37:36 AM  
15 votes:
Please let it be Osteen,
Please let it be Osteen,
Please let it be Osteen.

Darn.  Maybe next time.
 
2021-01-17 7:52:29 AM  
13 votes:
100 bucks Worth of cocaine decades in prison. Steal millions get six years.
WTF?
 
2021-01-17 7:47:41 AM  
12 votes:
"We're very disappointed that Mr. Caldwell's contributions to society and his extraordinary efforts to make every victim whole resulted in a sentence that is disappointing," LeBlanc said.

Giving the victims their own money back because he got caught does not make him a good man. Maybe someone should investigate this LeBlanc's finance.
 
2021-01-17 7:57:14 AM  
8 votes:
Of course it's the black guy who gets sents to jail for it.  Thousands of white guys do the same thing and don't get sent to jail.
 
2021-01-17 8:27:44 AM  
7 votes:
Spiritual advisor to two presidents. And yet we still can't get an atheist president
 
2021-01-17 9:47:54 AM  
6 votes:

Gooch: Too bad for the Fark liberal hivemind that Saint Obama was included in his clientele


Nope. Obama was an asshole for associating with this guy.

\Democrats are better than Republicans by a long shot, but that doesn't make them good.
 
2021-01-17 8:14:47 AM  
6 votes:

waxbeans: 100 bucks Worth of cocaine decades in prison. Steal millions get six years.
WTF?


Skim the money, pre-rinse launder and hide it, take your six years, get sent to a luxury rehabilitation camp and get out in two (after some friends "lobby" for you with their newfound wealth), go on a book writing and speaking tour to further launder the money you hid, and you earned a cool couple of million for a couple of years in a Republican country club camp.

Ya just gotta know which wheels to grease, and make sure none of the grease can be actually traced back to you.
 
2021-01-17 8:36:31 AM  
5 votes:
Caldwell has a master's degree from the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania and had worked in the financial industry.

Ah, left the financial industry to go where the big bucks are.
 
2021-01-17 7:31:19 AM  
5 votes:
Caldwell, who in March pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud, was the senior pastor of Houston's Windsor Village United Methodist Church, which has about 14,000 members.

That's only 14 kilochurch.
 
2021-01-17 10:20:08 AM  
4 votes:
Also:

Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!'  -Matthew 7:23

Rest assured that these mega-church bastards are in for a rude awakening when it's time to meet their maker.
 
2021-01-17 9:00:23 AM  
4 votes:
He shoulda just asked for more money. Isn't that the normal and totally legal grift that all churches (but especially evangelical mega churches) do?
 
2021-01-17 8:19:07 AM  
4 votes:

12349876: Of course it's the black guy who gets sents to jail for it.  Thousands of white guys do the same thing and don't get sent to jail.


Don't trust whitey.
 
2021-01-17 7:56:03 AM  
4 votes:

evilsofa: That's low on the list of creepy megachurch pastor smiles. See any picture of Joel Osteen. And then there's Kenneth Copeland:

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2021-01-17 10:47:50 AM  
3 votes:
Genesis - Jesus He Knows Me (Official Music Video)
Youtube 2-rfCnW5VlE
 
2021-01-17 9:36:11 AM  
3 votes:

Alphax: Megachurch pastor - fraud is a given.  Convicted of it, that's rare.


All religious leaders are commiting fraud, by definition. The size of their congregation is irrelevant.
 
2021-01-17 9:06:58 AM  
3 votes:
sentenced to six years in prison for bilking investors out of millions of dollarsScrew the parishioners, that's fine. Screw the investors? Nope, jail time. People who tithe are morons.
 
2021-01-17 8:04:43 AM  
3 votes:

Gulper Eel: > spiritual adviser to two U.S. presidents


Bush and Obama...
 
2021-01-17 7:24:45 AM  
3 votes:
The dupes: "Jeez if I'd just had more faith perhaps those historical Chinese bonds would have been recognized by the Commies."

In fairness, that had to be a hard sell. Props that he actually pulled it off.
 
2021-01-17 6:44:42 AM  
3 votes:
Heavenly Bank Account
Youtube -9NtdCoGxLU
 
2021-01-17 10:57:43 AM  
2 votes:

evilsofa: That's low on the list of creepy megachurch pastor smiles. See any picture of Joel Osteen. And then there's Kenneth Copeland:

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He looks like the guy in every Mummy movie just before the insects start flying out of his mouth.
 
2021-01-17 10:15:53 AM  
2 votes:

KonaDude: I have zip to do with religion but I truly wish hell existed just because of megachurch pastors. Also if it does I really hoping jerking off isn't a deal breaker for heaven, I think I'm alright otherwise.


Having read the Bible cover-to-cover and having had the Bible as half of my double-major in college (along with Accounting), I can tell you that there is nothing in the Bible that says that cleaning the pipes is wrong. The act of whacking off is not addressed at all, otherwise I'd be in serious trouble.  ;)
 
2021-01-17 9:20:18 AM  
2 votes:
Too bad for the Fark liberal hivemind that Saint Obama was included in his clientele
 
2021-01-17 9:19:48 AM  
2 votes:
I have zip to do with religion but I truly wish hell existed just because of megachurch pastors. Also if it does I really hoping jerking off isn't a deal breaker for heaven, I think I'm alright otherwise.
 
2021-01-17 9:08:58 AM  
2 votes:

Lurk Who's Talking: Tax churches investments, property not used specifically for worship (square footage of sanctuary), income not from donations.

Churches (Catholic, LDS, & sometimes little storefronts) often have major portfolios of businesses, apartment blocks, strip malls, etc. The massive homes of the pastors are not on the tax rolls, and neither are any of these, depriving communities of tax income needed for schools, hospitals, ... Charities like churches take money from programs for the poor. Tax 'em!


FTFY
 
2021-01-17 7:48:20 AM  
2 votes:

evilsofa: That's low on the list of creepy megachurch pastor smiles. See any picture of Joel Osteen. And then there's Kenneth Copeland:

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Those photos look like a sea creature trying to catch krill.
 
2021-01-17 7:34:10 PM  
1 vote:
Moran. If you want to use religion to get rich then preach the prosperity gospel. So long as you are telling your sheep to donate in exchange for god's blessings the Government will not touch you.
 
2021-01-17 1:01:00 PM  
1 vote:

Gooch: Too bad for the Fark liberal hivemind that Saint Obama was included in his clientele


After 4 years of literal Trump worship, conservatives are still stuck on the Obama is the Messiah talking point. It's like you have no self-awareness.
 
2021-01-17 12:40:41 PM  
1 vote:
God is everywhere and hears all of our prayers.
Sent me $10 to find out how.

/totally not a scam
//Jesus needs your $10
///he's still omnipotent
////just a cash-flow problem
 
2021-01-17 12:22:24 PM  
1 vote:
MattyBlast

Rest assured that these mega-church bastards are in for a rude awakening when it's time to meet their maker.

Relying on that unsubstantiated supposition is what enables them to continue in their deceitful ways.
 
2021-01-17 11:46:18 AM  
1 vote:
That's not how its suppose to work?
 
2021-01-17 11:36:30 AM  
1 vote:
Biggest fraud scheme?  Oh you mean organized religion?
 
2021-01-17 10:50:31 AM  
1 vote:

Alphax: Megachurch pastor - fraud is a given.  Convicted of it, that's rare.


This.  Was the Obvious tag sleeping in today Subby?
 
2021-01-17 10:33:07 AM  
1 vote:

Gooch: Too bad for the Fark liberal hivemind that Saint Obama was included in his clientele


It's why this grifter is going to the slammer, and no one will cry for him.
 
2021-01-17 10:09:58 AM  
1 vote:

Laobaojun: Please let it be Osteen,
Please let it be Osteen,
Please let it be Osteen.

Darn.  Maybe next time.


Only a 15 minute drive away. Maybe this was a case of keeping up with the neighbors. Something truly farked with the South the way they let these fraud factories proliferate like this.
 
2021-01-17 9:44:44 AM  
1 vote:
Once you find someone believing the buybull you know you've got a fish on the line.
 
2021-01-17 9:39:18 AM  
1 vote:

Lurk Who's Talking: Tax churches investments, property not used specifically for worship (square footage of sanctuary), income not from donations.

Churches (Catholic, LDS, & sometimes little storefronts) often have major portfolios of businesses, apartment blocks, strip malls, etc. The massive homes of the pastors are not on the tax rolls, and neither are any of these, depriving communities of tax income needed for schools, hospitals, ... Charities like churches take money from programs for the poor. Tax 'em!


While I realize that burning churches, in the US at least, is historically a method to intimidate and harm black people, I nevertheless approve of the general concept.
 
2021-01-17 9:37:34 AM  
1 vote:

fzumrk: evilsofa: That's low on the list of creepy megachurch pastor smiles. See any picture of Joel Osteen. And then there's Kenneth Copeland:

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When the lies hit your eyes like a big pizza pie
That's a moray.
 
2021-01-17 8:12:05 AM  
1 vote:

talkertopc: "We're very disappointed that Mr. Caldwell's contributions to society and his extraordinary efforts to make every victim whole resulted in a sentence that is disappointing," LeBlanc said.

Giving the victims their own money back because he got caught does not make him a good man. Maybe someone should investigate this LeBlanc's finance.


Most large churches have liability policies to cover this problem, hence how the church was able to make everyone whole.

Any time you subject people to a large, often unregulated revenue stream there is a  temptation of skimming.

Taxation of the organization, while worth pursuing, will not solve basic human greed.
 
2021-01-17 8:07:50 AM  
1 vote:

12349876: Of course it's the black guy who gets sents to jail for it.  Thousands of white guys do the same thing and don't get sent to jail.


Robert Tilton is proof of this comment.
 
2021-01-17 8:01:09 AM  
1 vote:
> spiritual adviser to two U.S. presidents
 
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