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2021-01-16 5:49:57 PM  
I need to watch Prince of Darkness tonight.
 
2021-01-16 6:35:37 PM  
I'm quite sure he'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS farkING COUCH!
 
2021-01-16 8:47:45 PM  
His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.
 
2021-01-16 10:18:03 PM  
Not horror but one of my favorite movies.

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2021-01-16 10:25:40 PM  
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2021-01-16 10:31:04 PM  
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Like Night of the Living Dead but the zombies have guns.
 
2021-01-16 10:31:47 PM  
STAY OUT OF THE FOG!!
 
2021-01-16 10:32:44 PM  

labman: His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.


And it's proof that practical effects are always best.
 
2021-01-16 10:36:50 PM  

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Like Night of the Living Dead but the zombies have guns.


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RIDICULOUSLY underrated (and under seen) movie.
 
2021-01-16 10:37:19 PM  

labman: His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.


Not one I'd say is the best ever made, but definitely up there in the rankings of the best. For me, the special effects don't hold up, to overly distracting effect, proving that usually the less you see of the monster in any horror film, the better. It ratchets up the tension, adrenaline, and fear when you allow the viewer's mind to run with whatever effect you've chosen to suggest the monster is present or approaching.
 
2021-01-16 10:46:37 PM  
They Live is on Peacock (free)
 
2021-01-16 10:51:58 PM  
I haven't seen every one of his movies, but I've never seen one that I wouldn't watch over and over again. Even the ones that are usually regarded as awful like Escape from LA and Ghosts of Mars are tons of fun.

Unrelated but while I'm talking about movies, I saw Dolemite is My Name last night and thought it was a damn near perfect film. Fantastic cast. Hilarious. Heartfelt. Inspiring.
 
2021-01-16 10:56:55 PM  
I heard he was dead.

Flincher: I need to watch Prince of Darkness tonight.


I didn't know he did that, watched it once decades ago and it left an impression. Enjoyed it
 
2021-01-16 10:57:36 PM  
I watched They Live a couple of years ago.  It held up reasonably well.
 
2021-01-16 10:58:36 PM  

labman: His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.


You have it confused with this:

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2021-01-16 10:59:10 PM  

Wendigogo: For me, the special effects don't hold up, to overly distracting effect, proving that usually the less you see of the monster in any horror film, the better


Except for one bit of stop-motion, my kids thought the effects were very good. (Probably helped our husky was in the room the whole time.) Practical effects have more realistic physics than most CGI, there's a verisimilitude if you use them right.

The "don't show the monster until you have to" rule is usually a good one. Because only rarely will you be able to show something worse than they had feared.
 
2021-01-16 11:01:15 PM  

labman: His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.


It might be. It's definitely way up there.

"Prince of Darkness" is like, simultaneously the best horror movie ever, and the most frustrating. It *totally* feels like it needed to be at least 2 movies, if not a trilogy, just to flesh it all out more. It just...ends. Which is cool and appropriate, in a way, but I think it would be more well-known if it had been longer and more fleshed-out.
 
2021-01-16 11:06:16 PM  
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2021-01-16 11:06:26 PM  
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2021-01-16 11:07:18 PM  
He has such an interesting movie catalogue... And while some of his older stuff looks dated... What he did, for the time, was wonderful.
 
2021-01-16 11:10:08 PM  

realmolo: labman: His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.

It might be. It's definitely way up there.

"Prince of Darkness" is like, simultaneously the best horror movie ever, and the most frustrating. It *totally* feels like it needed to be at least 2 movies, if not a trilogy, just to flesh it all out more. It just...ends. Which is cool and appropriate, in a way, but I think it would be more well-known if it had been longer and more fleshed-out.


I like that they just dumped all this crazy shiat into the movie, hand waved some quantum mechanics, and called it a day.

In The Mouth of Madness is also one of the best non-Lovecraft Lovecraftian movies.
 
2021-01-16 11:10:48 PM  

bobug: He has such an interesting movie catalogue... And while some of his older stuff looks dated... What he did, for the time, was wonderful.


Also, really solid as a composer.
 
2021-01-16 11:17:18 PM  
NeoCortex42:

I like that they just dumped all this crazy shiat into the movie, hand waved some quantum mechanics, and called it a day.

Exactly. And it *works*! But it leaves you wanting a LOT more. I can never decide about that movie. Would it be ruined if it was longer, and expanded on some of the themes? Or is better off the way it is, where it just leaves you wondering about...all of it.

"In The Mouth of Madness", on the other hand...I think it just doesn't work. It's very interesting, and it might be the most "Carpenter-ish" movie that Carpenter has ever made, but it's too scattered.
 
2021-01-16 11:18:04 PM  
Very good, but overrated.
 
2021-01-16 11:25:35 PM  

realmolo: "In The Mouth of Madness", on the other hand...I think it just doesn't work. It's very interesting, and it might be the most "Carpenter-ish" movie that Carpenter has ever made, but it's too scattered.


I think the biggest problem for it is its pacing. It feels a bit more uneven that most of his other movies.
 
2021-01-16 11:27:43 PM  

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2021-01-16 11:53:45 PM  
I am here to chew bubblegum and reference They Live.

And I'm all out of bubblegum.
 
2021-01-16 11:59:44 PM  

sorceror: Wendigogo: For me, the special effects don't hold up, to overly distracting effect, proving that usually the less you see of the monster in any horror film, the better

Except for one bit of stop-motion, my kids thought the effects were very good. (Probably helped our husky was in the room the whole time.) Practical effects have more realistic physics than most CGI, there's a verisimilitude if you use them right.

The "don't show the monster until you have to" rule is usually a good one. Because only rarely will you be able to show something worse than they had feared.


That's probably the scene that ruined it for me a little. But you're absolutely right- practical effects just have a more natural feel to them, as most CGI can feel too fluid and, well, unnatural. And sometimes it looks downright stupid.


Example (as mentioned in a previous thread): Deep Blue Sea- animatronic sharks- amazingly well done

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Same movie- CGI sharks- amazingly BAD. You'd think it was a whole other film.

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Anyway, The Thing, overall, is great; the isolation, the tension and fear- you can almost smell the sweat on these characters, you feel like you're right there with them. I haven't seen the remake, so I'm not sure how they'd compare.
 
2021-01-17 12:12:29 AM  
Call him Snake.
 
2021-01-17 1:11:21 AM  

elvisaintdead: I'm quite sure he'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS farkING COUCH!


Dammit,I came here to post this but WAS TIED TO THHIS GOD DAMNED COUCH!


/one of my favorite delivery lines
 
2021-01-17 1:17:55 AM  

Priapetic: elvisaintdead: I'm quite sure he'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS farkING COUCH!

Dammit,I came here to post this but WAS TIED TO THHIS GOD DAMNED COUCH!


/one of my favorite delivery lines


...and so of course I farked it up

/time for the cone of shame
//I do not like the cone of shame
///three slashes fo...squirrel!
 
2021-01-17 1:33:32 AM  
John Carpenter is one of my top five favorite directors.

I also dig his music.
 
2021-01-17 2:12:24 AM  
He's not a bad compose eitherr.  Hopefully he'll be able to do another tour someday.  I missed out on his earlier ones.


John Carpenter "Halloween" (2018/1978) Live Paris 2018
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2021-01-17 2:23:15 AM  

sorceror: Wendigogo: For me, the special effects don't hold up, to overly distracting effect, proving that usually the less you see of the monster in any horror film, the better

Except for one bit of stop-motion, my kids thought the effects were very good. (Probably helped our husky was in the room the whole time.) Practical effects have more realistic physics than most CGI, there's a verisimilitude if you use them right.

The "don't show the monster until you have to" rule is usually a good one. Because only rarely will you be able to show something worse than they had feared.


Where was the stop motion?
 
2021-01-17 2:27:23 AM  

NeoCortex42: realmolo: "In The Mouth of Madness", on the other hand...I think it just doesn't work. It's very interesting, and it might be the most "Carpenter-ish" movie that Carpenter has ever made, but it's too scattered.

I think the biggest problem for it is its pacing. It feels a bit more uneven that most of his other movies.


It does show one of the best portrayals of someone slowly going insane and accepting it, by laughing at the end
 
2021-01-17 2:51:28 AM  
Should have had an ice cream shake for dinner
 
2021-01-17 3:19:21 AM  

Flincher: I need to watch Prince of Darkness tonight.


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2021-01-17 4:17:02 AM  

realmolo: labman: His version of the thing is the greatest horror movie ever made.  Prove me wrong.

It might be. It's definitely way up there.

"Prince of Darkness" is like, simultaneously the best horror movie ever, and the most frustrating. It *totally* feels like it needed to be at least 2 movies, if not a trilogy, just to flesh it all out more. It just...ends. Which is cool and appropriate, in a way, but I think it would be more well-known if it had been longer and more fleshed-out.


I think it was Truffaut who talked about the fact that we always remake great movies, when what we should do is remake movies with great ideas that didn't quite land.  I've always thought PoD was a great example of that.  Though, if I were Carpenter, I'd probably want nothing further to do with remakes of my movies.
 
2021-01-17 4:23:32 AM  
Oh, but most definitely NOT such an example?  Big Trouble.  Leave it alone, hands off.  You could only make it worse.
 
2021-01-17 4:41:27 AM  
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2021-01-17 4:46:41 AM  

Skeleton Man: I haven't seen every one of his movies, but I've never seen one that I wouldn't watch over and over again. Even the ones that are usually regarded as awful like Escape from LA and Ghosts of Mars are tons of fun.

Unrelated but while I'm talking about movies, I saw Dolemite is My Name last night and thought it was a damn near perfect film. Fantastic cast. Hilarious. Heartfelt. Inspiring.


Memoirs of an Invisible Man. Just watch it one time, so you can say you have seen it. It's pretty bad. I blame Chevy Chase.
 
2021-01-17 9:19:39 AM  

ShutterGirl: sorceror: Wendigogo: For me, the special effects don't hold up, to overly distracting effect, proving that usually the less you see of the monster in any horror film, the better

Except for one bit of stop-motion, my kids thought the effects were very good. (Probably helped our husky was in the room the whole time.) Practical effects have more realistic physics than most CGI, there's a verisimilitude if you use them right.

The "don't show the monster until you have to" rule is usually a good one. Because only rarely will you be able to show something worse than they had feared.

Where was the stop motion?


When the tentacle grabs the detanator right before the climax.
 
2021-01-17 10:20:51 AM  
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2021-01-17 10:41:58 AM  
See Christine for the proper use of lensflare.
 
2021-01-17 10:59:33 AM  
It isn't easy to make a Stephen King book into a good movie, without using voiceover. But he absolutely crushed it with "Christine."

I don't like all of his movies, but he made some of my favorites of all time.
 
2021-01-17 2:39:26 PM  
The story on The Thing production was the money was committed and then held up for something like 9 months.  Carpenter took the time to fine tune the script, and load it up with calculatedly ambiguous clues as to who was taken and who was not.  Also, all the interiors were shot in the studio in the dead of summer.
 
2021-01-17 3:07:52 PM  

SoberCannibal: The story on The Thing production was the money was committed and then held up for something like 9 months.  Carpenter took the time to fine tune the script, and load it up with calculatedly ambiguous clues as to who was taken and who was not.  Also, all the interiors were shot in the studio in the dead of summer.


If you can find the dvd with Douglas and Carpenter commentary, it has some good stuff
 
2021-01-17 10:18:41 PM  
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I really like this music he made to his own movie
 
2021-01-18 1:49:45 AM  

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Gotta love a movie named after a 30 minute Grateful Dead song.   Has some interesting pre-Thing things happening in it as well.
 
2021-01-18 7:49:35 AM  
Happy birthday, John.

Although I still (and forever shall) wish that you'd actually filmed the (quite excellent) novel "Vampire$" instead of what you and your screenwriter thought the (quite-excellent) novel "Vampire$" actually was.

Also, I was reading through the old issues of Fangoria on archive.org recently and discovered at one time that there were plans (circa: around 1981) to be an anthology film with segments directed by Mr. Carpenter, Walter Hill and David Cronenberg (with a screenplay by Mr. Cronenberg from a story collaborated on by all three.)

It broke down when Mr. Carpenter left the project to go direct "The Thing".

All I know is that this goes to the peak of my million-mile high "favorite movies to never see the light of a projector" mountain.
 
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