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2021-01-16 10:17:51 AM  
There's a deadly disease running wild, and a narcissistic sociopath with a violently cultish mob of racist terrorists supposedly in charge of the country.

A little time alone is the least of my worries.
 
2021-01-16 11:13:14 AM  
I don't worry about my boss silently sneaking up on me anymore as I scroll through Fark, so no.
 
2021-01-16 11:22:02 AM  
In my 13 years with my current employer, I've had a present boss for less than a year. No paranoia there.

In my 13 years with my current employer, there have been lay-offs at least once a year. Paranoia there that has nothing to do with the pandemic.

The only thing I really worry about on video calls, where I always blur my background, is the unmistakable shape and sound of one of the cats projectile vomiting on the guest bed behind me.
 
2021-01-16 12:47:50 PM  
Pfew.
I thought it was the Weed...
 
2021-01-16 12:49:28 PM  
Don't worry. You can get a line of credit and improve your life.

No cure for paranoia.
 
2021-01-16 12:49:31 PM  
So should I take all the pictures of naked women down from the wall?  No one in my religious group has complained, including four clergy.  Someone did complain about the moving sailboat background though.
 
2021-01-16 12:50:45 PM  
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching you.
 
2021-01-16 12:52:10 PM  
remote working has been awesome. I love it and dread having to commute again
 
2021-01-16 12:53:47 PM  
You think you're paranoid now?

Wait until ½ your coworkers are back in the office and talking about you in the hallways while use Amazon Fashion to accessorize your cats.
 
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2021-01-16 12:54:14 PM  
You're just trying to trick me into turning around, subby. I'm on to you!
 
2021-01-16 12:57:45 PM  
I'd like to do remote work for a change. I'm sick of people pulling their masks down to cough or lick their fingers before counting out money.
 
2021-01-16 12:58:16 PM  
Friday afternoon, I'm walking home from school and I'm watching some men build a new house. And the guy hammering on the roof calls me a paranoid little weirdo. In Morse code. -Emo Phillips
 
2021-01-16 12:59:10 PM  
My company started doing virtual coffee breaks so we can hang out and talk to other people for something besides work. It's pretty nice to be able to chill out for a while, don't talk to people in person much anymore.  :(
 
2021-01-16 12:59:20 PM  

kindms: remote working has been awesome. I love it and dread having to commute again


This x a bajillion.  Work from home has been, and is, awesome.
 
2021-01-16 12:59:46 PM  
Not sure about paranoid, but it's definitely driving me nuts!
 
2021-01-16 1:00:10 PM  
I'd like to introduce you to your new co-workers from the hills of Outer Uzbekistan. They now have Zoom technology and will assure you that the training you will provide them has nothing to do with the current restructuring of the company.
 
2021-01-16 1:02:43 PM  
I've placed a piece of black electrical tape over the camera on my work computer.

Sorry not sure what wrong with my camera.
 
2021-01-16 1:07:47 PM  
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2021-01-16 1:08:42 PM  

LarryDan43: I've placed a piece of black electrical tape over the camera on my work computer.

Sorry not sure what wrong with my camera.


The tape is a lie.
 
2021-01-16 1:09:44 PM  
I watched "Host." I know how bad Zoom calls can go.
 
2021-01-16 1:10:09 PM  
I've worked from home for two years, I honestly hope to never work in an office again.

It's definitely not for everyone.
 
2021-01-16 1:11:51 PM  

educated: In my 13 years with my current employer, I've had a present boss for less than a year. No paranoia there.

In my 13 years with my current employer, there have been lay-offs at least once a year. Paranoia there that has nothing to do with the pandemic.

The only thing I really worry about on video calls, where I always blur my background, is the unmistakable shape and sound of one of the cats projectile vomiting on the guest bed behind me.


Right? My only worry on a zoom call is about my background. What if they hear my dogs barking and realize I'm not really in space?
 
2021-01-16 1:12:59 PM  
I knew the knives were out for my team last round of layoffs; at best I hope to have at most 2, maybe 3 years left before they come for me too. Meanwhile the new hires overseas replacing everyone are being trained up.
 
2021-01-16 1:13:31 PM  
I've offered to do complete rebuilds on packaging machines if they'd deliver them to my shop.     Honestly, they'd get more out of me if could do my industrial maintenance from home!  They always reply with  running 24/7 something something...

/This junk should be modular
 
2021-01-16 1:15:49 PM  

TheReject: My company started doing virtual coffee breaks so we can hang out and talk to other people for something besides work. It's pretty nice to be able to chill out for a while, don't talk to people in person much anymore.  :(


A friend works in an organization that's IT focused. They took this all in stride as everyone was working off of laptops anyway, over secure systems and were tech-savvy.
He was mentioning the strain of work during the beginning of the lockdown and I mentioned this idea and his response was along the lines of "Oh God, no!! I'm on zoom from 8am to 7pm with these guys, I do NOT want to spend any more time with them!"
:)
 
2021-01-16 1:16:55 PM  

Death Rocket: I've offered to do complete rebuilds on packaging machines if they'd deliver them to my shop.     Honestly, they'd get more out of me if could do my industrial maintenance from home!  They always reply with  running 24/7 something something...

/This junk should be modular


My junk is modular. Why just today I swapped up to a 4" shaft.
 
2021-01-16 1:17:23 PM  
Times making up BS nonsense to be concerned about?

A day that ends in 'y'.
 
2021-01-16 1:18:56 PM  

Resident Muslim: TheReject: My company started doing virtual coffee breaks so we can hang out and talk to other people for something besides work. It's pretty nice to be able to chill out for a while, don't talk to people in person much anymore.  :(

A friend works in an organization that's IT focused. They took this all in stride as everyone was working off of laptops anyway, over secure systems and were tech-savvy.
He was mentioning the strain of work during the beginning of the lockdown and I mentioned this idea and his response was along the lines of "Oh God, no!! I'm on zoom from 8am to 7pm with these guys, I do NOT want to spend any more time with them!"
:)


I have to mention that as they were helping other institutions get online and be productive online their workload increased a lot during the initial part of the pandemic.
Their boss is a workaholic, and having no distinct time where people had left the office, what with people previously on flexible schedules made it difficult for them to get their work schedules aligned and have clear cut-off times.
 
2021-01-16 1:20:44 PM  
The only thing about work I am paranoid about is the person there on my work from home weeks and the messes he leaves me. He didn't know who was in or where the payroll dept was. And I got to listen to why he isn't taking the vaccine despite being on a million other meds.
 
2021-01-16 1:22:37 PM  
Before 2020, I had a hard time understanding how folks could become agoraphobic. But now, especially after the last almost 2 weeks of not leaving my house except for late night dashes to the mailbox, the thought of casually walking outside my little realm is definitely a bit disconcerting. Tested positive for the 'Rona on the 5th, very fortunately asymptomatic (had to test for work once a week), and have had to isolate since. And I was so careful, didn't even go visit the fam for the holidays (disappointed mom was heartbreaking), but someone who works in my building did travel, and then brought their plague to us, grrr...
 
2021-01-16 1:24:26 PM  

TheCableGuy: I've worked from home for two years, I honestly hope to never work in an office again.

It's definitely not for everyone.


I'm almost 40, got a wife and 3 kids under 13. I have no social life (mostly by choice, partly by design - see above), I really don't have any friends, I excel at my job, easily one of the best people in my position.  I don't really enjoy small talk, always willing to help someone with questions or if they need help. I never liked the presence of other people near my desk while I'm working.

Being at home has increased my productivity and happiness. No half hour bus ride/commute each way, I'm done with work and home 5 seconds later. It's an extra hour to be nagged at by my wife or screamed at my by 12 year old.

Good times.
 
2021-01-16 1:24:48 PM  

phenn: Times making up BS nonsense to be concerned about?

A day that ends in 'y'.


People are judgments by nature.
Not a personal opinion, this is something studied by anthropologists.
The more mature of us do not let that judgment, especially the initial judgment dictate how we deal with that person. Because how we deal is a reflection of us, not them.

I've caught myself checking out people's zoom backgrounds, complimented several and received compliments as well. I'm sure there are many who didn't like my background or thought it tacky or over.
I've had meetings with people that had a collage of a background with a painting and a plant or something, while others have used their bookshelves as backgrounds.
Some have opted for just a simple white wall.
 
2021-01-16 1:25:42 PM  

educated: In my 13 years with my current employer, I've had a present boss for less than a year. No paranoia there.

In my 13 years with my current employer, there have been lay-offs at least once a year. Paranoia there that has nothing to do with the pandemic.

The only thing I really worry about on video calls, where I always blur my background, is the unmistakable shape and sound of one of the cats projectile vomiting on the guest bed behind me.


After a year of being forced to use video for way too many calls, that would be the highlight of my work week.
 
2021-01-16 1:26:09 PM  

TheReject: My company started doing virtual coffee breaks so we can hang out and talk to other people for something besides work. It's pretty nice to be able to chill out for a while, don't talk to people in person much anymore.  :(


We have twice-weekly 'hand off' meetings (we're on 50% WFH, each going in 2-3 days a week. It's about 1/3 work and 2/3 catching up. I've also had calls where they started with a question, and then we just ...stayed on the line for like an hour, talking intermittently while we worked on our own stuff.

/Obviously these are with the coworkers I like
 
2021-01-16 1:29:44 PM  
No camera, good luck judging my house. Even if I did have a camera they'd find I'm just as clean at home as I am at my desk which people wonder why I never have any papers on it.

As for paranoia my mother with her healing broken leg at 70+ years old is giving me more then my job ever will even during a budget crisis thanks to COVID, restructuring to a central location in the cloud, retirements and no rehires while doubling and trippling work, saying there will be no more development while picking tools and programs that need development in house on them with tools that no longer go from A -> B to get something done but A -> R -> S -> E -> B to get there for a simple web form/report, etc. Part of me is actually hoping I'd lose my job because then I'd get a break for once after hearing how everyone else working at home suddenly had time to have a nicer house and garden while I worked.
 
2021-01-16 1:31:14 PM  
The benefit of going merc in a gig economy is simple - I don't have to give a shiat.

I don't have to care about office politics, or the personal lives of my peers. I don't have to pretend I care about the social lives of my direct reports, or the personal interests of those to whom I report. No one gives a shiat about how my home office looks, or if I have the right filter for my conference call, or whatnot, because I don't get paid for that.

I mean, I do care for a few folks, because I find them fun & interesting - but I don't have to, and I don't have to pretend any more. I'm not compelled any more to wear a persona, or engage in small talk, because I'm farking disposable and the only thing about which anyone gives a shiat about me on the job is how well I can do that job. I can be as nerdy & socially awkward as I choose without fear, because in a six-month gig, no one's going to remember shiat about it - they will remember my work, though, so I'll get that repeat business.

And it's a binary, now - if I do the job well enough (or better), I get paid. If I'm incompetent, I don't get paid. I don't have to struggle with peers whose only competency is sucking up to (or off) their boss. If I encounter another gig employee or client employee doing that, I can comfortably call them out on it because I'll be damned if I play along - the client doesn't pay me for that shiat. If that twit wants to somehow "get payback," they're welcome to fire me - I don't have to worry that my "performance review may be negatively affected" or that my long-term retirement is adversely impacted by some douchenozzle going, "sure, he's really skilled, but, he's not a people person, y'know?" or "I don't like how he dresses."

I do the job, and then I get paid. Simple as that.
 
2021-01-16 1:33:47 PM  
Look upon my ridonkulous mess of books and laundry, ye Tidy, and despair. For my name is Bennie, and I have readeth them all; and mine hoodies smelleth of Tide and Bounce. Stare into my Poptart wrapper abyss, and my Poptart wrapper abyss stareth into you.
 
2021-01-16 1:36:47 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching you.


this i can verify: just because you're diagnosed a paranoid, the paranoia does not go away.
 
2021-01-16 1:37:45 PM  

Resident Muslim: phenn: Times making up BS nonsense to be concerned about?

A day that ends in 'y'.

People are judgments by nature.
Not a personal opinion, this is something studied by anthropologists.
The more mature of us do not let that judgment, especially the initial judgment dictate how we deal with that person. Because how we deal is a reflection of us, not them.

I've caught myself checking out people's zoom backgrounds, complimented several and received compliments as well. I'm sure there are many who didn't like my background or thought it tacky or over.
I've had meetings with people that had a collage of a background with a painting and a plant or something, while others have used their bookshelves as backgrounds.
Some have opted for just a simple white wall.


The only thing they say to me is, "Where did you get that amazing purse??"

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2021-01-16 1:39:34 PM  
I'm a Sysadmin. 100% remote. Contract runs out in two weeks. EVERYTHING is monitored. Can't email out, wouldn't dare try to copy scripts or other useful tools. Wouldn't even try the USB. The fun thing is that (one of) the spywares being used has a bug where I can hear it take screenshots as I use Teams, the net, image captures, email. Teams is busy decoding all speech for someone to keyword-troll through. All day long I think of things but nothing seems to satisfy.
 
2021-01-16 1:43:22 PM  
I must be strange.  I actually like the people I work with.  And at this point, I've got enough seniority and experience that I can pretty much get a job where I want to, should I need to.

There's also the knowledge that I've seen and been through enough farking weird shiat over the years that no matter what happens at work, meh, I'll survive it.
 
2021-01-16 1:44:23 PM  
I've found the videoconferencing thing to be really interesting. Some people put a whole lot of effort into a carefully curated appearance that reflects little details of their personal lives. Some people I'd never guess have crazy taste in art and stuff. The best though are the one's really don't five a F and stream live from a dilapidated motel room with a half empty bottle of booze in the background.
/I go for the brick wall with a conspicuously placed pentagram of parsnips
 
2021-01-16 1:47:25 PM  
He described feeling odd about his eyes darting all over the place during video meetings.

This is why you should always wear mirror shades. Bong smoke will help obscure bad backgrounds but please make sure the bong is off camera.
 
2021-01-16 1:54:14 PM  
WFH has been interesting to say the least. I was co project manager for the implementation of a new case management system.

Training began March 23, less than a week after the shut down. Fortunately most staff members got laptops just a few months before (our executive director has her act together) and we were able to give the jet packs we took to court to staff without decent internet access at home. The rollout and training went way better with people WFH. The usual suspects of Luddites and complainers were not able to gossip among themselves and get other people to buy into their bs. Had training taken place onsite, that definitely would have happened.

With the workload temporarily reduced, staff were able to take a bit more time learning the system.

Before this, my practice group was never big on meetings, after a few months of daily group meetings we actually became closer. This doesn't mean it was all happy times, there has been some serious conflict but we worked  through it. Fortunately we also knew when daily meetings became counterproductive.

When this is over, I plan on working from home when there are no meetings, clients coming to the office or court appearances.
 
2021-01-16 2:03:24 PM  

phenn: The only thing they say to me is, "Where did you get that amazing purse??"


Well, where did you get it?
 
2021-01-16 2:03:54 PM  

berylman: I've found the videoconferencing thing to be really interesting. Some people put a whole lot of effort into a carefully curated appearance that reflects little details of their personal lives. Some people I'd never guess have crazy taste in art and stuff. The best though are the one's really don't five a F and stream live from a dilapidated motel room with a half empty bottle of booze in the background.
/I go for the brick wall with a conspicuously placed pentagram of parsnips


I spent over a year on a 100% remote gig, and I turned on my camera exactly once. Typically, there's no need - our scrum didn't care about what we looked like, and as we had mere minutes every day to report, we were quite happy to dispense with that pointless visual exercise. The only person who regularly had something for us to see was our scrum master, who showed us our board and his notes as we reported.

I wish the rest of my career went like that job. Paid reasonably well, performed exceedingly well, involved zero drama. Only reason I'm not there is that the client enforces a six-month gap between 18-month gigs for that type of contract.
 
2021-01-16 2:06:34 PM  
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2021-01-16 2:07:42 PM  
I work in a hospital at a job that can't be done remotely.

I am just stopping in here to make sure all you work-from-homers know that I'm jealous of you and hate you for it.

Carry on.
 
2021-01-16 2:07:56 PM  
Why would ask me that question, huh subby?  WHY?
 
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