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(Mashable)   MacBook Touch Bar, 2016-2021. RIP ... and good riddance   (mashable.com) divider line
    More: Spiffy, MacBook, Apple Inc., Touch Bar, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, Macintosh, Multi-touch, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo  
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1164 clicks; posted to STEM » on 16 Jan 2021 at 11:02 AM (16 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-01-16 8:14:15 AM  
16 votes:
It's not worthless. It can run Doom.

Doom on the MacBook Pro Touch Bar
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2021-01-16 11:49:32 AM  
7 votes:
It's Apple, they'll probably replace the entire keyboard with a touchscreen.
 
2021-01-17 2:37:35 AM  
4 votes:

Fursecution: Twilight Farkle: BullBearMS: Meanwhile, at Microsoft...

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Such innovation.

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Look to the left of the "1" key. They may have spent millions of dollars to prevent Win10 S users from using vim instead of Candy Crush as the default text editor but at least it's got a farkin' ESC key.

What are you talking about?  That's Microsoft's foldable tablet (Surface Neo?) (Whoa...) with a keyboard sitting on it.

/This post written on a macbook with a touchbar and an ESC key.


Just being snarky about Apple in the Jony Ive era and "hey, a physical ESC key offends my UX sensibilities, nobody needs muscle memory, just make everything a fondleslabtouchscreen" [not an actual quote, but, uh, he probably wouldn't have disagreed] and Windows in the "Fark, those iThingies are eating us alive, let's ruin the entire farking desktop" era, wherein Win8 threw out 30 years of UI experience in favor of Mobile-First UX, and Win10 threw out 40+ years of OS in favor of Services as a Substitute for software.



tl;dr: Jobs would have given Ive the touchbar, but kept the ESC key because he'd have recognized that some people use vi as an editor. But Jobs wasn't around, Microsoft did no better, and both sides are bad, so 2030 will be The Year of the Linux Desktop.
 
2021-01-16 4:40:14 PM  
3 votes:

cyberspacedout: theflatline: NoRedShadow: The Touch Bar is useful for one thing, screenshots. To take screenshots on a Mac you hit control-shift-command-4 or something and it will let you take a screenshot and save it to the clipboard. Hitting control-shift-command-3 or something saves it to the desktop instead or somewhere else. Anyways there a bunch of different variants, and I can never remember which is which.
With the Touch Bar it will let you tweak all of the screenshot options after you hit any one of the arcane key combinations before you take the screenshot, which is really handy.
Also, I'm an Emacs user so the loss of the Escape key wasn't too bad for me (also they restored the Escape key on newer models, while retaining the rest of the Touch Bar).

Or just bind it to whatever key combo you like.  I have screen shot and screen record bound to different buttons on a Logitech MS master 2S.

I also have them routed to a folder called screenshots.  Plus there are a myriad of finer grained screenshot tools for both Windows and Mac.

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IIRC, the command-shift-3 and 4 shortcuts have been around at least since system 7 in the mid 90s.

Once OS X came around, about 20 years ago, the system made it easy to customize any key combination you wanted for various functions (including this one).

I never used one of these MacBooks with the touch bar, but to me, it seemed about as pointless as the row of Fkeys - potentially useful, but only if you really wanted to make it work.


I work for Apple and I never use a Touch bar, and probably use the touch keys except on the odd occasion twice a year.

However, a metric ass ton of people use the F Keys.

I find Apple/Windows users to be equally spread over the same spectrums.

1.They know how to use the browser so they think they are computer literate. Akin to George Jetson having to hit that one red button and even having trouble doing that.

2.They attached a USB device once and so now they are experts at all things electronic.

3.The one ones that are vaguely computer literate on both OS's tend to rely too much on google and get themselves into trouble OR "i saw two other people on the internet having this issue, let me speak to an engineer." They do not understand the concepts of one off issues.

4.Or then you have the guys who have a wealth of knowledge who run incredibly one off scenarios(like a lot of farkers) who get into trouble and expect you to troubleshoot their wildly strange rigs.

Example "i got a rig with pringles cans and i am running a python script that the output shows me that the wifi drops intermittently, at least twice a day for 2 seconds when I am in my basement."

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2021-01-16 10:55:56 AM  
3 votes:

NoRedShadow: To take screenshots on a Mac you hit control-shift-command-4 or something and it will let you take a screenshot and save it to the clipboard. Hitting control-shift-command-3 or something saves it to the desktop instead or somewhere else.


Or for those us using the superior PC, we just press the "Print Screen" button and open the file in whatever graphics program we desire to use.

/ gladly got rid of my Macs years ago
// yes, I went there with the "superior PC" comment
/// FLAME ON!
 
2021-01-16 10:20:51 AM  
2 votes:

TWX: forteblast: I never got used to the touch bar. I roll my eyes every time I have to hit Escape.

I use UNIX-type operating systems, principally because of the power of the command line.  The Escape key is integral to what I use a computer for out of the use of editors like vi.

Even with my distaste for walled-garden platforms I had used an older 2011-era MacBook Pro that was work-issued and it was a pretty good computer for the kinds of things I do.  When it was time for a new personal computer I considered the Apple, until I learned that the only way to get multiple ports on the computer was to buy one with the touchbar, and one couldn't even retrofit a conventional keyboard in its place.

It's funny.  I could've gotten by with all of the F-keys being replaced with touchbar, but their insistence on replacing the whole row disqualified them.
I'm not sure that even when it's time for this Dell XPS-13 to be replaced if I'd go with Apple.  I've watched them go insane deprecating-out ports that I use.  Sure, the rectangular USB and full SD are older, but I still use them on a regular basis.  Having to carry adapters on top of the devices is awkward.


Mac Os allows you to install from the App Store or whatever you like from where ever you like.
 
2021-01-16 9:41:43 AM  
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2021-01-17 1:27:51 AM  
1 vote:

BullBearMS: Meanwhile, at Microsoft...

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Such innovation.


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Look to the left of the "1" key. They may have spent millions of dollars to prevent Win10 S users from using vim instead of Candy Crush as the default text editor but at least it's got a farkin' ESC key.
 
2021-01-16 9:37:27 PM  
1 vote:
Meanwhile, at Microsoft...

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Such innovation.
 
2021-01-16 11:17:05 AM  
1 vote:

Winterlight: NoRedShadow: To take screenshots on a Mac you hit control-shift-command-4 or something and it will let you take a screenshot and save it to the clipboard. Hitting control-shift-command-3 or something saves it to the desktop instead or somewhere else.

Or for those us using the superior PC, we just press the "Print Screen" button and open the file in whatever graphics program we desire to use.

/ gladly got rid of my Macs years ago
// yes, I went there with the "superior PC" comment
/// FLAME ON!


Man, you need to get with the times. Windows-shift-S is the superior screenshot method on Windows these days.

/not kidding
 
2021-01-16 8:26:29 AM  
1 vote:
I got used to the super thin keys with no travel... I got used to using USB-C dongles to plug in everything... I got used to not being able to run 32-bit programs anymore...

I never got used to the touch bar. I roll my eyes every time I have to hit Escape.
 
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