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(Washington Post)   What's the best way to deal with post-presidency Trump? Division by zero, apparently   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2021-01-15 11:00:26 PM  
Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.
 
2021-01-15 11:01:47 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.


He doesn't. In Moscow they do.
 
2021-01-15 11:01:49 PM  
Pretty sure his intelligence was already cut before his umbilical cord.
 
2021-01-15 11:02:30 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.


He doesn't have to read them; he will sell them to the highest bidder.
 
2021-01-15 11:03:29 PM  
It's a good opportunity to feed disinformation to our enemies.
 
2021-01-15 11:04:04 PM  
better yet, feed him fake information.
 
2021-01-15 11:04:52 PM  
"Cut off his intelligence"?  Assumes facts not in evidence.
 
2021-01-15 11:06:33 PM  
Drink less?

I don't farking know anymore.

Wait? You got beer? Well, why not.
 
2021-01-15 11:07:06 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: It's a good opportunity to feed disinformation to our enemies.


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2021-01-15 11:07:11 PM  
Let's ask Paul Anka.

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2021-01-15 11:07:35 PM  
Just keep giving him coloring books, not like it matters.
 
2021-01-15 11:07:50 PM  

Skyfrog: Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.

He doesn't have to read them; he will sell them to the highest bidder.


Doubt theres much left to sell
 
2021-01-15 11:08:23 PM  
Never mention him again, the narcissist's worst nightmare
 
2021-01-15 11:08:53 PM  

Jairzinho: Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.

He doesn't. In Moscow they do.


They dont need intelligence briefings. Seems they have no trouble hacking.
 
2021-01-15 11:09:13 PM  
can we have a thread for that poor guy who just resigned that nobody ever heard of before
 
2021-01-15 11:09:55 PM  
No former president needs classified information. Unless tasked with a specific duty by the sitting president there's no reason any of them should get classified info. The only possible purpose would be for insider trading, espionage, or "just cuz it's cool to be special". fark that noise, let's stop this practice all together.
 
2021-01-15 11:11:27 PM  

Excelsior: Never mention him again, the narcissist's worst nightmare


So much this. Wish he'd fade off into obscurity.
Like the Ancient Roman term "Damnatio Memoriae." They wouldn't even record the person in history--and would let a politician fade into obscurity. It's a peaceful solution. Really hoping the media orgy of breathless stories stops once he leaves.
 
2021-01-15 11:11:34 PM  
Cuz of the paywall formatting on mobile I couldn't read the whole headline, I'ma pretend it says "Cut off his dick."
 
2021-01-15 11:11:44 PM  
It's the most peaceful solution, too.
 
2021-01-15 11:13:08 PM  
Nero fiddles while Rome burned?
Trump played the American media like a fiddle while the country burned. The media shares a decent chunk of blame for getting that clown elected.
 
2021-01-15 11:13:21 PM  
It's never seemed like he had any use for intelligence.

Or common sense.
Or decency.
Or ethics.
 
2021-01-15 11:15:40 PM  
And, this is why we need a trial after the inauguration as well. A conviction will cut him off from all government resources except secret service. I'm fine with secret service, because that way we can keep an eye on him and make sure he doesn't steal secrets.
 
2021-01-15 11:15:47 PM  
More importantly, remove his security clearance immediately, and those of his family and all his political appointees if they don't lose it automatically.
 
2021-01-15 11:15:47 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: It's a good opportunity to feed disinformation to our enemies.


Not a bad idea.  Give him carefully curated false intelligence and, presuming we have people on the inside, watch for it showing up. Could be evidence of espionage and treason.
 
2021-01-15 11:17:04 PM  
I say we honor our Law and Order President

by letting him pass beyond his great glorious wall, and take his brand of justice to the Mexican wastes.

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2021-01-15 11:17:45 PM  
We should put some counter intelligence in his briefings.
 
2021-01-15 11:26:12 PM  

Jairzinho: Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.

He doesn't. In Moscow they do.


Well, there you go. Biden should allow Trump the courtesy of getting the PDB. Seed that document with some false stuff and see where it pops up. When evidence is incontrovertible, arrest him and charge him with espionage. Hang him in front of the Capitol.
 
2021-01-15 11:27:48 PM  

dericwater: Jairzinho: Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.

He doesn't. In Moscow they do.

Well, there you go. Biden should allow Trump the courtesy of getting the PDB. Seed that document with some false stuff and see where it pops up. When evidence is incontrovertible, arrest him and charge him with espionage. Hang him in front of the Capitol.


Ok, so everyone else thought the same idea. I guess we're all alike in how we're thinking...
 
2021-01-15 11:31:29 PM  
You wouldn't just leave the briefing under my pillow.

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2021-01-15 11:32:31 PM  
I think they could just cut him off completely.  What is he gonna do, tweet about it?
 
2021-01-15 11:34:57 PM  

Skyfrog: Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.

He doesn't have to read them; he will sell them to the highest bidder.


I think the better bet is that he wanders around whatever golf course doesn't kick him out, and talks to anyone that won't walk away.

"See this? This guy's a spy. One of the best, I know, because I hired and trained him. Lots of people think i'm just a great business man, but they don't know that I'm also the best spy trainer. i trained this guy, and he sends me these reports that say Iran is building the bomb ..."


Or yes, we send him false intel, so he can do the same thing, only instead, he talks about the super secret project codenamed Clifford the Big Red White and Blue Dog
 
2021-01-15 11:36:12 PM  
Stop reporting on him.

Like, don't give him a mic, or a platform, never give him an interview for at least a year. Treat him like former President Bush who just turned into vapor.

You can write articles to update the status of him, is he alive, is he going to court, is he in jail, like things *about* him are fine-ish. But absolutely do not give him a mic or quote him.

fark him, deplatforming him is a key step in actually healing this nation.
 
2021-01-15 11:39:57 PM  
During my Navy career, I would often say, "Not only don't I have the need to know this, I don't even have the desire." Then I would respectfully ask to be released from the meeting. Seriously, it was a trick to get out of meetings & I never missed anything. When planning these meetings, meeting managers would include everyone because they were afraid of not doing that. Maybe twice I had a senior officer not laugh & insist on my inclusion. Once was about "articulated UK lorries." (I was a military brat who went to school in the UK for several years & could translate UK English into American.) The other was a 1992 meeting about "The Final Disestablishment of the Western Sea Frontier Command": I was an Anti-Submarine Aircraft Controller who happened to speak Russian & that command was from the 1950s-60s (I think, long before I even enlisted) & I still don't know WTF I was doing in that auditorium. (Those were my most pertinent quals at the time but since I have an unusual name, I can't even guess they confused me with someone else.) But, it was a different way to spend the day & I had a nice lunch. Had no idea what was finally done/decided. I never said a word or voted, & barely kept awake. One of my most surreal days ever.
 
2021-01-15 11:40:32 PM  

HerptheDerp: Stop reporting on him.

Like, don't give him a mic, or a platform, never give him an interview for at least a year. Treat him like former President Bush who just turned into vapor.

You can write articles to update the status of him, is he alive, is he going to court, is he in jail, like things *about* him are fine-ish. But absolutely do not give him a mic or quote him.

fark him, deplatforming him is a key step in actually healing this nation.


i say go ahead and write about him, but never short articles, never use pictures of him or his family, and never use his name in the first two to three paragraphs.

To his eye, it'd be like the article never existed
 
2021-01-15 11:41:32 PM  

Theeng: Just keep giving him coloring books, not like it matters.


Sure, if this is the one used:

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2021-01-15 11:42:14 PM  
Called it.
 
2021-01-15 11:42:47 PM  

Alaskan Yoda: And, this is why we need a trial after the inauguration as well. A conviction will cut him off from all government resources except secret service. I'm fine with secret service, because that way we can keep an eye on him and make sure he doesn't steal secrets.


We can do that just fine without paying millions a year for SS protections.  Cut him off completely.  I would be in the camp of giving him fake info, but the ruse would be so transparent it's completely ineffectual.  No pension, no briefings, no travel allowance, no invitations back to the WH for photo ops, no nothing.  It'll be like he never existed.  He'd effectively be banned from federal buildings in DC.

There does need to be a counter-espionage team on him, Kushner, and whoever else had the PDB while he was in office.  I have absolutely zero trust that he wouldn't try to spill what's in his head to even the lowest bidder.
 
2021-01-15 11:46:34 PM  
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2021-01-15 11:56:41 PM  

Comic Book Guy: Alaskan Yoda: And, this is why we need a trial after the inauguration as well. A conviction will cut him off from all government resources except secret service. I'm fine with secret service, because that way we can keep an eye on him and make sure he doesn't steal secrets.

We can do that just fine without paying millions a year for SS protections.  Cut him off completely.  I would be in the camp of giving him fake info, but the ruse would be so transparent it's completely ineffectual.  No pension, no briefings, no travel allowance, no invitations back to the WH for photo ops, no nothing.  It'll be like he never existed.  He'd effectively be banned from federal buildings in DC.

There does need to be a counter-espionage team on him, Kushner, and whoever else had the PDB while he was in office.  I have absolutely zero trust that he wouldn't try to spill what's in his head to even the lowest bidder.


The secrets argument for why he needs lifetime SS protection doesn't work for me. Thousands of people have TS clearance. The ones who retire or quit or lose their clearance don't get bodyguards for life.

Jared is far scarier than Trump on that count. He at least tried to pay attention to that stuff and nobody's talking about guarding him for life.
 
2021-01-15 11:57:58 PM  

LordOfThePings: You wouldn't just leave the briefing under my pillow.


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This is a f#cking problem. That novice has no business being in a position of influence upon the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
 
2021-01-15 11:58:33 PM  

redbucket: No former president needs classified information. Unless tasked with a specific duty by the sitting president there's no reason any of them should get classified info. The only possible purpose would be for insider trading, espionage, or "just cuz it's cool to be special". fark that noise, let's stop this practice all together.


Carter was arguably a far better resource as ambassador and ex president than he ever was in office.
 
2021-01-16 12:06:38 AM  

Alaskan Yoda: Excelsior: Never mention him again, the narcissist's worst nightmare

So much this. Wish he'd fade off into obscurity.
Like the Ancient Roman term "Damnatio Memoriae." They wouldn't even record the person in history--and would let a politician fade into obscurity. It's a peaceful solution. Really hoping the media orgy of breathless stories stops once he leaves.


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2021-01-16 12:08:55 AM  

Fista-Phobia: LordOfThePings: You wouldn't just leave the briefing under my pillow.

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This is a f#cking problem. That novice has no business being in a position of influence upon the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


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rejected countless times for a security clearance because he's basically the most compromised person on the planet, but daddy made them give him one anyway
 
2021-01-16 12:16:27 AM  

Skyfrog: Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.

He doesn't have to read them; he will sell them to the highest bidder.


Pretty sure Jared handles the briefings and any negotiations to trade for what they contain. 

It's not mere coincidence that he entered the White House on the verge of financial ruin, but now leaves with $2 billion in the bank.
 
2021-01-16 12:27:28 AM  
redbucket:

No former president needs classified information.

Being a head of state brings with it a unique perspective that you're not going to get from career people with an agenda, so continuing their updates gives them the ability to inform a decision when advice is needed.

There's also their status as unofficial spokespersons for the home country, which gets used for back room negotiations through the relationships that were developed during their time in office.

You can disagree with the practice, but it is valid.
 
2021-01-16 12:30:19 AM  

redbucket: No former president needs classified information. Unless tasked with a specific duty by the sitting president there's no reason any of them should get classified info. The only possible purpose would be for insider trading, espionage, or "just cuz it's cool to be special". fark that noise, let's stop this practice all together.


Just because you don't understand why something exists doesn't mean it's useless.  Just ask Rick Perry and the Department of Uhhhhhh.
 
2021-01-16 12:43:19 AM  

Excelsior: Fista-Phobia: LordOfThePings: You wouldn't just leave the briefing under my pillow.

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This is a f#cking problem. That novice has no business being in a position of influence upon the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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rejected countless times for a security clearance because he's basically the most compromised person on the planet, but daddy made them give him one anyway


That picture looks like two people looking out the window who don't know they've been dead for decades.
 
2021-01-16 1:03:20 AM  
I gotta wonder -- if it's not automatic but solely at the new president's prerogative, did Trump ever get around to authorizing this kind of clearance for Obama?

(And I sincerely hope that one of the things that Biden takes care of right away is the unveiling of Obama's White House portrait...)
 
2021-01-16 1:11:40 AM  

Mugato: Excelsior: Fista-Phobia: LordOfThePings: You wouldn't just leave the briefing under my pillow.

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This is a f#cking problem. That novice has no business being in a position of influence upon the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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rejected countless times for a security clearance because he's basically the most compromised person on the planet, but daddy made them give him one anyway

That picture looks like two people looking out the window who don't know they've been dead for decades.


That's some Diane Arbus work there.
 
2021-01-16 1:18:45 AM  

Karma Chameleon: Stop sending him intelligence briefings he's never read? That oughta do it.


He doesn't have to read them to sell them to our enemies.
 
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