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(Twitter)   Just a reminder that if you're convicted of a felony, you lose your right to own a gun. So when the dust settles, all those Capitol Hill rioters will have effectively taken their guns away from themselves   (twitter.com) divider line
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2299 clicks; posted to Politics » on 15 Jan 2021 at 10:13 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-01-15 9:12:00 AM  
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2021-01-15 9:25:44 AM  
I pity the fool that thinks criminals follow gun restrictions.
 
2021-01-15 9:29:44 AM  
Also, even when these people do their time, and pay the fines. They will FOREVER have a shadow watching every move they make. They won't be able to so much as piss without it being documented for possible future evidence.
 
2021-01-15 9:35:25 AM  
They'll just toss of the facade of responsible gun owner who complies with the law and keep their guns.
 
2021-01-15 9:41:02 AM  
So what they've said all along is true: if you outlaw guns, only criminals will have guns! They just weren't clarifying that they were the criminals
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-01-15 9:43:16 AM  
The basic charges being filed against everybody are misdemeanors which do not permanently revoke gun rights. Charges are upgraded to felonies if there is evidence of more than just trespassing in the Capitol.
 
2021-01-15 9:50:50 AM  

Gubbo: They'll just toss of the facade of responsible gun owner who complies with the law and keep their guns.


Exactly what they did when their ideology conflicts with democracy.
 
2021-01-15 9:51:48 AM  

ZAZ: The basic charges being filed against everybody are misdemeanors which do not permanently revoke gun rights. Charges are upgraded to felonies if there is evidence of more than just trespassing in the Capitol.


I say felony murder for all of them.

After they've identified them all.  Don't want to go that extreme at first because their friends might not turn them in for something that serious.
 
2021-01-15 9:57:50 AM  
Thanks, Obama?
 
2021-01-15 10:00:39 AM  

snocone: I pity the fool that thinks criminals follow gun restrictions.


And the dumbasses will learn that is worthy of charges as well.
 
2021-01-15 10:01:51 AM  

Gubbo: They'll just toss of the facade of responsible gun owner who complies with the law and keep their guns.


Yeah, but that's a bonus for law enforcement.   These guys won't have to DO anything and if they show up at a rally with their AR or Glock strapped on, LEO's can bust them for that alone.   They post a video online of them brandishing their "freedom stick"?  Probable cause for the cops to come to their house and search it stem to stern
 
2021-01-15 10:04:40 AM  

Magorn: Gubbo: They'll just toss of the facade of responsible gun owner who complies with the law and keep their guns.

Yeah, but that's a bonus for law enforcement.   These guys won't have to DO anything and if they show up at a rally with their AR or Glock strapped on, LEO's can bust them for that alone.   They post a video online of them brandishing their "freedom stick"?  Probable cause for the cops to come to their house and search it stem to stern


Ever see the police arresting those guys with guns?

That's dangerous. Far easier to fire tear gas at peacefully protesting elderly women.
 
2021-01-15 10:15:08 AM  
"I'M COMING TO TAKE MY OWN GUN"
 
2021-01-15 10:15:26 AM  
We have met the gun grabber and he is us.
 
2021-01-15 10:15:57 AM  
How will their sense of identity ever recover!?
 
2021-01-15 10:16:31 AM  
Sympathetic coconspirator states and counties will allow them to transfer them into their spouse or child's name.

Not that any of the weapons are registered or in states requiring registration of guns.  So...

Not so much.
 
2021-01-15 10:16:40 AM  
Oh, so "COME AND TAKE IT" actually was a sincere offer?
 
2021-01-15 10:16:40 AM  
In many of the redder states they also lose their right to vote.
 
2021-01-15 10:17:04 AM  
I guess it's time to bust up that justice system monopoly, boys.
 
2021-01-15 10:17:32 AM  
I imagine their stance on allowing felons to vote will also suddenly change.
 
2021-01-15 10:17:34 AM  
I'm curious; how is the 'no guns for convicted felons' thing enforced? Are the guns they have confiscated? Then what happens to them?
 
2021-01-15 10:17:43 AM  
 
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2021-01-15 10:18:48 AM  
Will they also be forever banned from using the phrase "good guy with a gun"?
 
2021-01-15 10:19:31 AM  

Flashfyr3: In many of the redder states they also lose their right to vote.


Oh, the irony!
 
2021-01-15 10:20:53 AM  
Looks like the ammosexuals self castrated.
 
2021-01-15 10:20:53 AM  

PainInTheASP: snocone: I pity the fool that thinks criminals follow gun restrictions.

And the dumbasses will learn that is worthy of charges as well.


In Minneapolis it'll get you killed.
 
2021-01-15 10:22:13 AM  

serfdood: "I'M COMING TO TAKE MY OWN GUN"


"I TOOK MY JOB!"
 
2021-01-15 10:23:20 AM  

mainsail: I'm curious; how is the 'no guns for convicted felons' thing enforced? Are the guns they have confiscated? Then what happens to them?


What happens is they muat have a gun. They just can't live withiut one. So they keep a gun in the car, or on their person, or in the house and two years from now they get pulled over for making a right turn without signalling and they end up back in jail because of how stupid they are.
 
2021-01-15 10:23:24 AM  
I think we are close to having a Supreme Court that could determine that a felony conviction cannot supercede Second Amendment rights. Binderup v. Attorney General already cracked the door on such a move by reversing gun bans on non-violent offenders in the Third District, we'll see where it goes from there.

Granted, I am sure none of these jokers will have a good test case for such a policy change.
 
2021-01-15 10:24:04 AM  
LOL. That is funny. Subby thinks they won't have guns.
 
2021-01-15 10:25:07 AM  

Grungehamster: I think we are close to having a Supreme Court that could determine that a felony conviction cannot supercede Second Amendment rights. Binderup v. Attorney General already cracked the door on such a move by reversing gun bans on non-violent offenders in the Third District, we'll see where it goes from there.

Granted, I am sure none of these jokers will have a good test case for such a policy change.


That whole non-violent part really goes out the window, after breaking it of course.
 
2021-01-15 10:25:12 AM  
And forget applying for tax stamps. Those'll get denied immediately.
 
2021-01-15 10:26:35 AM  
In some states, they will also lose the ability to vote, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.
 
2021-01-15 10:26:47 AM  

mainsail: I'm curious; how is the 'no guns for convicted felons' thing enforced? Are the guns they have confiscated? Then what happens to them?


Same way drug charges are enforced, if you're caught with them you get charged.
 
2021-01-15 10:26:53 AM  

ZAZ: The basic charges being filed against everybody are misdemeanors which do not permanently revoke gun rights. Charges are upgraded to felonies if there is evidence of more than just trespassing in the Capitol.


That's just it, the basic charges. They seem to be charging people lightly early on with obvious evidence, probably video, against them. As time goes on and they've had more time time to identify and investigate people the charges have been getting stronger. Like any conspiratorial group, a mob if you will,  they start at the bottom and work up the ranks with information they get from the lower, more frightened echelons. And of course these people have long social media histories that are self-indicting.
 
2021-01-15 10:27:20 AM  

mainsail: I'm curious; how is the 'no guns for convicted felons' thing enforced? Are the guns they have confiscated? Then what happens to them?


Enforced like pretty much everything else:  after the fact.  When they go on to commit another crime with a gun they can't legally own, the penalties for the gun are tacked on (and might outstrip) the crime.
Also, if they happen to be doing some damned fool armed protest nonsense, and get booked on misdemeanor trespassing, a felony firearm charge will be on the table.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-01-15 10:27:26 AM  
mainsail

I don't know if there is a uniform way to take guns in the event of a criminal conviction. Around here when police serve a restraining order they are supposed to request all the subject's guns. You can say "no sir, no guns in here" and if they believe you then you now have an illegally possessed gun. (Active restraining order and pending indictment are disqualifying the same as a felony conviction.) In theory the guns remain the property of the owner and may be given to anybody lawfully allowed to possess them.  And if the prohibition on gun ownership lapses you can get your guns back. In theory. Some departments don't like to return guns even if there is no legal basis to keep them.
 
2021-01-15 10:27:42 AM  
The majority of these idiots will not be charged with a felony. Those that do, because they're white, will plea down to a misdemeanor. Nobody will lose their guns.
 
2021-01-15 10:28:32 AM  

ZAZ: The basic charges being filed against everybody are misdemeanors which do not permanently revoke gun rights. Charges are upgraded to felonies if there is evidence of more than just trespassing in the Capitol.


Personally, I believe every single person there should be charged with sedition and murder.  They worked, as a group, to try to take over the government by force.  That's sedition, a felony.  In the process of committing that felony as a group, a police officer died.  That means they were all guilty of his murder, just like the getaway driver of a bank hold up is guilty of murder if one of the thieves shoots a teller, even if he never left the car and was unarmed.
 
2021-01-15 10:29:12 AM  
Meh.

You can buy a gun at a gun show or from a private seller without having to go through a federal background check.

Yes, they'll be possessing the gun illegally, but that's only a problem if they get caught, and if they do, I doubt they'll get much more than a fine and community service.
 
2021-01-15 10:29:29 AM  
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2021-01-15 10:29:59 AM  

thornhill: Meh.

You can buy a gun at a gun show or from a private seller without having to go through a federal background check.

Yes, they'll be possessing the gun illegally, but that's only a problem if they get caught, and if they do, I doubt they'll get much more than a fine and community service.


Because they are the law and order party.
 
2021-01-15 10:30:33 AM  
What is Don Jr. going to do with himself?
 
2021-01-15 10:30:46 AM  
Womp-womp.
 
2021-01-15 10:31:30 AM  

snocone: I pity the fool that thinks criminals follow gun restrictions.


Yeah, they can have fun with that.

They've made the lists because they've threatened our government and individual government employees.

They aren't some sort of low level offender that will fly under the FBI's radar who will have guns.

So sure, they may get their hands on guns illegally, but they won't get away with it for too long if they play weekend warrior and go "train" for civil war 2.0.

If you haven't noticed, these people aren't too bright and like recording and posting their training videos online.  So unless they keep their weapons in a closet at home they'll get noticed because they're going to be heavily scrutinized now.
 
2021-01-15 10:34:16 AM  
Can we pry them from their cold dead hands?  Please?
 
2021-01-15 10:34:26 AM  

Flashfyr3: In many of the redder states they also lose their right to vote.


I'm certain the laws will be changed for them.
 
2021-01-15 10:35:19 AM  
Reinstatement of rights isn't horribly difficult a lot of places, especially if you are a white guy.
 
2021-01-15 10:37:14 AM  

snocone: I pity the fool that thinks criminals follow gun restrictions.


These insurrectionists are going to be watched after they are done with their prison sentences.
 
2021-01-15 10:37:40 AM  

apocryphaandmyth: mainsail: I'm curious; how is the 'no guns for convicted felons' thing enforced? Are the guns they have confiscated? Then what happens to them?

Enforced like pretty much everything else:  after the fact.  When they go on to commit another crime with a gun they can't legally own, the penalties for the gun are tacked on (and might outstrip) the crime.
Also, if they happen to be doing some damned fool armed protest nonsense, and get booked on misdemeanor trespassing, a felony firearm charge will be on the table.


Also a lot of these types of laws are just an easy button for the prosecutor, as there's no intent element of the crime.

They use the possession charge as leverage, and if they can't get anything else they send them away on that.
 
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