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2021-01-14 9:55:49 AM  
90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...
 
2021-01-14 9:59:16 AM  
Abolish DHS. It's a tool of oppression and white supremacy far, far more than protection from terrorism for the country.
 
2021-01-14 10:20:01 AM  
The only threat America has ever really faced is from white supremacists.  Ever.  EVER.

So let's finish this thing.
 
2021-01-14 10:54:00 AM  
The FBI has a reputation for not sharing information with anyone outside of their organization. If the Capital Police were depending on intelligence from them for their incident planning, they should have known better.
 
2021-01-14 10:57:29 AM  
...but did warn people about the protesters who were near...

/*bong*
 
2021-01-14 11:05:06 AM  
Reminiscent of 9/11 when the info was out there but not shared or underappreciated. Some things never change.
 
2021-01-14 12:04:45 PM  
That's very white of them.
 
2021-01-14 12:05:24 PM  

Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...


You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.
 
2021-01-14 12:05:45 PM  
Sure, five people died. But Trump's wall has saved millions by delaying white genocide for a while. Even with the covid deaths, Trump is still at a net positive for Americans saved by his wall. But the MSM won't give him any credit.
 
2021-01-14 12:07:20 PM  
Law enforcement have a history of under assessing right wingers because they are also typically military or law enforcement and share their right wing views to some extent.
 
2021-01-14 12:10:10 PM  
"If you have newer, bigger, and shinier weapons why would you bother with people carrying metal pipes and fire extinguishers."    --  some British dude in the colonies in 1773
 
2021-01-14 12:10:16 PM  
Are you telling me the FBI sometimes intentionally lets stuff happen in order to further their own agenda so that they get more funding and more powers?  No way.

Sometimes they totally entrap people to justify increased budget and less legal constraints and to ramp up The Terra'.  Happened ALL THE TIME after 9/11.  They'd have an undercover agent intentionally leading dumb people along with a plot that the undercover agent themselves suggested and organized, and then once the rubes bit on it they'd get arrested and the FBI would be all "TERROR PLOT AVERTED GIVE US MO' MONEY".
 
2021-01-14 12:10:25 PM  

inglixthemad: Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...

You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.


The FBI, contrary to a lot of Farker's belief, is not some entity staffed with woke liberal law enforcement agents. They're basically right wingers who have the mentality of a cop but much more professional about their appearances. The FBI likes to "warn" the public about right wing extremists in order to get in the good graces, but will not do a damn thing about them unless said extremists get egg on the FBI's face.

The absolute best thing you can say regarding the FBI is that they exist to maintain the status quo.
 
2021-01-14 12:10:38 PM  
Problem: Two agencies had the intelligence and failed to pass it along

Government Solution: Clearly we need a third agency
 
2021-01-14 12:12:08 PM  
Well yes and no mean almost the same thing. It's easy to mix them up.
 
2021-01-14 12:14:05 PM  

JAGChem82: inglixthemad: Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...

You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.

The FBI, contrary to a lot of Farker's belief, is not some entity staffed with woke liberal law enforcement agents. They're basically right wingers who have the mentality of a cop but much more professional about their appearances. The FBI likes to "warn" the public about right wing extremists in order to get in the good graces, but will not do a damn thing about them unless said extremists get egg on the FBI's face.

The absolute best thing you can say regarding the FBI is that they exist to maintain the status quo.


I'm related to Trumper Feebs currently working in DC.

We don't talk much.
 
2021-01-14 12:14:23 PM  

taintbaggins: Problem: Two agencies had the intelligence and failed to pass it along

Government Solution: Clearly we need a third agency


No.  You need XML.
 
2021-01-14 12:16:16 PM  
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But you can imagine what it'd be like if they did!
 
2021-01-14 12:16:31 PM  

taintbaggins: Problem: Two agencies had the intelligence and failed to pass it along

Government Solution: Clearly we need a third agency


That's what I'm worried about. Biden will use this to create DHS 2: Spy Harder.
 
2021-01-14 12:19:39 PM  
 
2021-01-14 12:27:51 PM  

taintbaggins: Problem: Two agencies had the intelligence and failed to pass it along

Government Solution: Clearly we need a third agency


Break up Homeland back to the previous evolved form:  twenty or so agencies -- Secret Service part of Treasury.  Put the Coast Guard under the Navy.  Get rid of NCIS New Orleans (never could watch).

Change just one rule.  Each agency is fair game for any other agency:  kidnapping, assassination, theft of budgets.  It would then run just like congress.  What is more American than that?
 
2021-01-14 12:28:59 PM  

misanthropicsob: taintbaggins: Problem: Two agencies had the intelligence and failed to pass it along

Government Solution: Clearly we need a third agency

That's what I'm worried about. Biden will use this to create DHS 2: Spy Harder.


Some sort of domestic intelligence service shake up is sorely needed. FBI has so far successfully resisted giving up their domestic intelligence responsibilities despite their long almost unblemished history of farking it up.
How badly and consistently has the FBI screwed up? After 9/11 the NYPD broke ranks and created their own domestic and foreign intelligence departments. In the case of the recent attack on Congress the NYPD also delivered more accurate and timely intelligence than either the FBI or DHS.
 
2021-01-14 12:31:02 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The only threat America has ever really faced is from white supremacists.  Ever.  EVER.

So let's finish this thing.


The only threat the whole world has ever really faced is from white supremacists, and it started from the Ancient Greeks. Prior to that, they didn't really had that sense of superiority based on skin color and other body features.
 
2021-01-14 12:31:43 PM  

JAGChem82: inglixthemad: Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...

You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.

The FBI, contrary to a lot of Farker's belief, is not some entity staffed with woke liberal law enforcement agents. They're basically right wingers who have the mentality of a cop but much more professional about their appearances. The FBI likes to "warn" the public about right wing extremists in order to get in the good graces, but will not do a damn thing about them unless said extremists get egg on the FBI's face.

The absolute best thing you can say regarding the FBI is that they exist to maintain the status quo.


So not much of a change from when they hired mostly Jesuits.
 
2021-01-14 12:35:55 PM  

jethroe: Are you telling me the FBI sometimes intentionally lets stuff happen in order to further their own agenda so that they get more funding and more powers?  No way.

Sometimes they totally entrap people to justify increased budget and less legal constraints and to ramp up The Terra'.  Happened ALL THE TIME after 9/11.  They'd have an undercover agent intentionally leading dumb people along with a plot that the undercover agent themselves suggested and organized, and then once the rubes bit on it they'd get arrested and the FBI would be all "TERROR PLOT AVERTED GIVE US MO' MONEY".


To be fair, such dumb people should be taken out of society. Of course, it all depends on how severe the psy-op was. I mean, in a way, Trump is one giant psy-op convincing millions of dumb people to go along with an insane plot as well. Would we call all the Trumpers entrapped by Trump?
 
2021-01-14 12:38:50 PM  
All of this madness seems to be a mix of incompetence, a lack of leadership (competent or Trumpian or otherwise), hubris in thinking this could never happen, a purposeful ignoring of intelligence (again?? You Farking Farks, blood is on your hands) , a desire to not run afoul of Trump and his loyalist crony minions now placed throughout the federal govt creating a true Derp State, months long scheming and planning by various white supremacist/anti-govt/QAnnon/racist lunatics, numerous Trumpian 'stop the steal sympathizing police, willful belligerent denial of reality by them and Trump/Fox/OANN/many many Republicans, and Trump Trumping up his Storm Trumping 'patriot's seditionists into a frenzy.

The only reasons it wasn't worse is that many on the Mall might have been die hard Trumpers but they were not all militants I'd they had been, thousands would have been inside the capitol. That and many of the cops on the ground that day did not get the memo to stand down and wouldn't have nonetheless. No, clearly not all cops are bad.

F*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*U*​U*CK

/don't banninate me...
//I tried to ad some asterisks
///sending Tots 'n Slashies
 
2021-01-14 12:40:08 PM  
I'm hoping that the country starts realizing what Black and queer people have known for decades--there's no one to turn to.  It's rotten all the way down.
 
2021-01-14 12:40:13 PM  

inglixthemad: JAGChem82: inglixthemad: Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...

You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.

The FBI, contrary to a lot of Farker's belief, is not some entity staffed with woke liberal law enforcement agents. They're basically right wingers who have the mentality of a cop but much more professional about their appearances. The FBI likes to "warn" the public about right wing extremists in order to get in the good graces, but will not do a damn thing about them unless said extremists get egg on the FBI's face.

The absolute best thing you can say regarding the FBI is that they exist to maintain the status quo.

So not much of a change from when they hired mostly Jesuits.


Mormons you mean
 
2021-01-14 12:41:34 PM  
Since the 90's at least they knew

https://www.hsdl.org/?abstract&did=44​0​030
 
2021-01-14 12:42:21 PM  
That's project Megiddo
Read it it is worth it
 
2021-01-14 12:48:21 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Abolish DHS. It's a tool of oppression and white supremacy far, far more than protection from terrorism for the country.


Abolishing DHS will upset the Low Information Boomer Rube Swing Voters

Instead, I would rather Biden can put a person at the helm who will enact and enforce policies that effectively strip DHS of any power to act as a fascist secret police force

I.e. Keep the labels the same, just change what's inside
 
2021-01-14 12:51:24 PM  

dericwater: jethroe: Are you telling me the FBI sometimes intentionally lets stuff happen in order to further their own agenda so that they get more funding and more powers?  No way.

Sometimes they totally entrap people to justify increased budget and less legal constraints and to ramp up The Terra'.  Happened ALL THE TIME after 9/11.  They'd have an undercover agent intentionally leading dumb people along with a plot that the undercover agent themselves suggested and organized, and then once the rubes bit on it they'd get arrested and the FBI would be all "TERROR PLOT AVERTED GIVE US MO' MONEY".

To be fair, such dumb people should be taken out of society. Of course, it all depends on how severe the psy-op was. I mean, in a way, Trump is one giant psy-op convincing millions of dumb people to go along with an insane plot as well. Would we call all the Trumpers entrapped by Trump?


To even suggest something like that is pretty chilling.
 
2021-01-14 12:51:38 PM  

zorkmcgork: AdmirableSnackbar: Abolish DHS. It's a tool of oppression and white supremacy far, far more than protection from terrorism for the country.

Abolishing DHS will upset the Low Information Boomer Rube Swing Voters

Instead, I would rather Biden can put a person at the helm who will enact and enforce policies that effectively strip DHS of any power to act as a fascist secret police force

I.e. Keep the labels the same, just change what's inside


Just spin DHS as the true deep state
 
2021-01-14 12:52:24 PM  

zorkmcgork: AdmirableSnackbar: Abolish DHS. It's a tool of oppression and white supremacy far, far more than protection from terrorism for the country.

Abolishing DHS will upset the Low Information Boomer Rube Swing Voters

Instead, I would rather Biden can put a person at the helm who will enact and enforce policies that effectively strip DHS of any power to act as a fascist secret police force

I.e. Keep the labels the same, just change what's inside


At some point the Boomers won't have the votes to drive electoral politics. Democrats would do well to focus on the future of the party rather than the distant past that only ended up getting us Trump.
 
2021-01-14 12:53:03 PM  

jethroe: dericwater: jethroe: Are you telling me the FBI sometimes intentionally lets stuff happen in order to further their own agenda so that they get more funding and more powers?  No way.

Sometimes they totally entrap people to justify increased budget and less legal constraints and to ramp up The Terra'.  Happened ALL THE TIME after 9/11.  They'd have an undercover agent intentionally leading dumb people along with a plot that the undercover agent themselves suggested and organized, and then once the rubes bit on it they'd get arrested and the FBI would be all "TERROR PLOT AVERTED GIVE US MO' MONEY".

To be fair, such dumb people should be taken out of society. Of course, it all depends on how severe the psy-op was. I mean, in a way, Trump is one giant psy-op convincing millions of dumb people to go along with an insane plot as well. Would we call all the Trumpers entrapped by Trump?

To even suggest something like that is pretty chilling.


I'm not enjoying the dehumanizing rhetoric either

They're criminals not subhuman
The latter is eliminationist and bad
 
2021-01-14 12:54:17 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: zorkmcgork: AdmirableSnackbar: Abolish DHS. It's a tool of oppression and white supremacy far, far more than protection from terrorism for the country.

Abolishing DHS will upset the Low Information Boomer Rube Swing Voters

Instead, I would rather Biden can put a person at the helm who will enact and enforce policies that effectively strip DHS of any power to act as a fascist secret police force

I.e. Keep the labels the same, just change what's inside

At some point the Boomers won't have the votes to drive electoral politics. Democrats would do well to focus on the future of the party rather than the distant past that only ended up getting us Trump.


AOC has mooted primaring from the left I think it's worth a try
 
2021-01-14 12:56:19 PM  

JAGChem82: inglixthemad: Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...

You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.

The FBI, contrary to a lot of Farker's belief, is not some entity staffed with woke liberal law enforcement agents. They're basically right wingers who have the mentality of a cop but much more professional about their appearances. The FBI likes to "warn" the public about right wing extremists in order to get in the good graces, but will not do a damn thing about them unless said extremists get egg on the FBI's face.

The absolute best thing you can say regarding the FBI is that they exist to maintain the status quo.


Has the FBI ever had a head who isn't some crew-cut square-jawed white dude? It's been the Comeys and the Wrays all the way back to Hoover. Ok, just answered my own question. It's no. Hoover had the longest tenure, from 1935 to 1972. Since then, white guys.

First thing is get rid of white guys in office. All offices. It's not a skill thing. It's a perspective thing, and the white dudes don't have the perspective that a woman or a person of color has. The white dude hasn't been shaped by life in the same way that a woman or a person of color has.
 
2021-01-14 12:56:31 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: inglixthemad: JAGChem82: inglixthemad: Gulper Eel: 90 years of FBI farkery, incompetence, and having pissing matches with the CIA instead of doing their jobs...and it still only took one We'll Get The Bad Guy This Time, Honest story for the hive mind to hit its knees in worshipfulness.

If ever there was a police in need of defunding...

You're assuming it's incompetence, instead of them being willfully blind and refusing to act.

The FBI, contrary to a lot of Farker's belief, is not some entity staffed with woke liberal law enforcement agents. They're basically right wingers who have the mentality of a cop but much more professional about their appearances. The FBI likes to "warn" the public about right wing extremists in order to get in the good graces, but will not do a damn thing about them unless said extremists get egg on the FBI's face.

The absolute best thing you can say regarding the FBI is that they exist to maintain the status quo.

So not much of a change from when they hired mostly Jesuits.

Mormons you mean


Arbitrary standards that serve to gatekeep authority using pseudoscience? In our government? 

Never.
 
2021-01-14 12:56:50 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: AdmirableSnackbar: zorkmcgork: AdmirableSnackbar: Abolish DHS. It's a tool of oppression and white supremacy far, far more than protection from terrorism for the country.

Abolishing DHS will upset the Low Information Boomer Rube Swing Voters

Instead, I would rather Biden can put a person at the helm who will enact and enforce policies that effectively strip DHS of any power to act as a fascist secret police force

I.e. Keep the labels the same, just change what's inside

At some point the Boomers won't have the votes to drive electoral politics. Democrats would do well to focus on the future of the party rather than the distant past that only ended up getting us Trump.

AOC has mooted primaring from the left I think it's worth a try


It's our only option, we need people to understand that it's time to support those challengers and look to the future rather than clinging bitterly to dinosaurs who only brought destruction and ruin for everyone under age 45 or so.
 
2021-01-14 12:57:24 PM  

dericwater: Has the FBI ever had a head who isn't some crew-cut square-jawed white dude? It's been the Comeys and the Wrays all the way back to Hoover. Ok, just answered my own question. It's no. Hoover had the longest tenure, from 1935 to 1972. Since then, white guys.

First thing is get rid of white guys in office. All offices. It's not a skill thing. It's a perspective thing, and the white dudes don't have the perspective that a woman or a person of color has. The white dude hasn't been shaped by life in the same way that a woman or a person of color has


Defeats the purpose of the FBI. To suppress minorities and trade unionists.
 
2021-01-14 12:59:03 PM  
Sure, FBI & DHS both dropped the ball on warning people. I can buy that.

WHY DID THEY NEED A WARNING?

The entire country knew that there was going to be a large protest at the Capitol building on 06Jan21. Right-wingers had been posting about it in social media for weeks. News agencies had been talking about it for weeks. Days before, the President himself said it was going to happen. Hell, they saw the crowd in the morning with more than enough time to send more officers.
 
2021-01-14 12:59:37 PM  

thehobbes: dericwater: Has the FBI ever had a head who isn't some crew-cut square-jawed white dude? It's been the Comeys and the Wrays all the way back to Hoover. Ok, just answered my own question. It's no. Hoover had the longest tenure, from 1935 to 1972. Since then, white guys.

First thing is get rid of white guys in office. All offices. It's not a skill thing. It's a perspective thing, and the white dudes don't have the perspective that a woman or a person of color has. The white dude hasn't been shaped by life in the same way that a woman or a person of color has

Defeats the purpose of the FBI. To suppress minorities and trade unionists.


"Commies"
I remember when FBI ignored the Mafia because commies
Never mind COINTELPRO
 
2021-01-14 1:00:54 PM  

Jgok: Sure, FBI & DHS both dropped the ball on warning people. I can buy that.

WHY DID THEY NEED A WARNING?

The entire country knew that there was going to be a large protest at the Capitol building on 06Jan21. Right-wingers had been posting about it in social media for weeks. News agencies had been talking about it for weeks. Days before, the President himself said it was going to happen. Hell, they saw the crowd in the morning with more than enough time to send more officers.


Trumps men in power emasculated the response
I really hope for jail time or the noose for that so called misstep
 
2021-01-14 1:12:39 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: thehobbes: dericwater: Has the FBI ever had a head who isn't some crew-cut square-jawed white dude? It's been the Comeys and the Wrays all the way back to Hoover. Ok, just answered my own question. It's no. Hoover had the longest tenure, from 1935 to 1972. Since then, white guys.

First thing is get rid of white guys in office. All offices. It's not a skill thing. It's a perspective thing, and the white dudes don't have the perspective that a woman or a person of color has. The white dude hasn't been shaped by life in the same way that a woman or a person of color has

Defeats the purpose of the FBI. To suppress minorities and trade unionists.

"Commies"
I remember when FBI ignored the Mafia because commies
Never mind COINTELPRO


Just remembered that one of the first big FBI cases was the Osage Native American murders.

A bunch of women who ended up with reservation land were murdered and the FBI was sent in. 

They convicted one guy after 4 years. The other people involved in it have empires that have lasted to this day.
 
2021-01-14 1:13:31 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The only threat America has ever really faced is from white supremacists.  Ever.  EVER.

So let's finish this thing.


One time the Russians had missiles off our coast, but yeah.
 
2021-01-14 1:22:06 PM  

narocroc: Marcus Aurelius: The only threat America has ever really faced is from white supremacists.  Ever.  EVER.

So let's finish this thing.

One time the Russians had missiles off our coast, but yeah.


Fine I'll make the correction
*internal*
 
2021-01-14 1:22:55 PM  

narocroc: Marcus Aurelius: The only threat America has ever really faced is from white supremacists.  Ever.  EVER.

So let's finish this thing.

One time the Russians had missiles off our coast, but yeah.


FBI is on us soil we have other TLA for spies and external threats
 
2021-01-14 2:00:09 PM  

Jgok: Sure, FBI & DHS both dropped the ball on warning people. I can buy that.

WHY DID THEY NEED A WARNING?

The entire country knew that there was going to be a large protest at the Capitol building on 06Jan21. Right-wingers had been posting about it in social media for weeks. News agencies had been talking about it for weeks. Days before, the President himself said it was going to happen. Hell, they saw the crowd in the morning with more than enough time to send more officers.


Well, one thing they may have needed a warning of is that the FBI went around the country and 'advised' leaders of the uprising not to go to DC' Why they did this is unclear and they didn't report if any of the people they warned went to DC.
 
2021-01-14 2:06:20 PM  

thehobbes: dericwater: Has the FBI ever had a head who isn't some crew-cut square-jawed white dude? It's been the Comeys and the Wrays all the way back to Hoover. Ok, just answered my own question. It's no. Hoover had the longest tenure, from 1935 to 1972. Since then, white guys.

First thing is get rid of white guys in office. All offices. It's not a skill thing. It's a perspective thing, and the white dudes don't have the perspective that a woman or a person of color has. The white dude hasn't been shaped by life in the same way that a woman or a person of color has

Defeats the purpose of the FBI. To suppress minorities and trade unionists.


Moreover, I'm not completely convinced that merely placing a woman or a minority will "liberalize"* the FBI as a whole. A lot of CoP are women and/or black and their agencies are still rotten to the core - see Atlanta and Seattle for proof of that.

*By liberalize - I'm not saying that the FBI needs to be endorsing AOC or Warren or having BLM/rainbow flags, but at the very least, strip the right wing from controlling these agencies.
 
2021-01-14 2:12:16 PM  
Looking at JE Hoover's history suggests that he* shared many characteristics with cult leaders.

It's not surprising that the FBI resembles Jonestown in many ways...
 
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