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(Pirates & Princesses)   Star Wars rumors: the Lucasfilm Story Group, which maintains canon and is developing The High Republic property, was kept out of the loop from Jon Favreau's production & is all jelly that Mando is the only Star Wars fans give a shiat about   (piratesandprincesses.net) divider line
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2021-01-14 12:02:23 PM  

johnny_vegas: buntz: DerAppie: Is "Jedi" a stand-in for "force users", or really just the Jedi?

Yeah, I just meant "The Force".  I'm sick of The Force.  I was ok with The Mandalorian but then they pulled it all back in to the Skywalker Saga.

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But really, let's be honest here:

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Vulcans are Trek Jedi, without the swords

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2021-01-14 12:35:43 PM  
You know what I think is neat?  Back 15 years ago, "the Fandom" declared that the Prequels were abominations that should be erased, and that George Lucas killed their childhoods... did you SEE those HILARIOUS Plinkett videos?  Call the Burn Unit!

....but a whole generation of kids didn't listen to any of it, and they loved the movies, and they loved The Clone Wars even more.  And now they're looking forward to The Bad Batch and the Obi-wan Kenobi series, both of which are Prequel-era in a way.

Now the Fandom is older, fatter, and angrier, and they're being duped by YouTube shills into thinking that Rey Skywalker and the Sequels are somehow going to be erased.  Which will never happen, of course.  Heck, there are even haters out there who scream and rail against The Mandalorian, because it.... ruined Boba Fett's character?  Because it's not disavowing the Sequels?

In the end, the kids win.  Star Wars wins.  The Fandom Menace always loses.
 
2021-01-14 12:36:08 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: johnny_vegas: buntz: DerAppie: Is "Jedi" a stand-in for "force users", or really just the Jedi?

Yeah, I just meant "The Force".  I'm sick of The Force.  I was ok with The Mandalorian but then they pulled it all back in to the Skywalker Saga.

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But really, let's be honest here:

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Vulcans are Trek Jedi, without the swords

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It's almost like the series and movie were different things and had different things happen in them
 
2021-01-14 1:42:40 PM  

Drearyx: Not really subs. Mando is mostly garbage.

/Got any more of them fetch quests?
//You help me, I help you
///Yeah this shiat unbelievably good.... Not


Some Galaxy's edge right there.
 
2021-01-14 1:53:15 PM  

buntz: DerAppie: You cannot make a movie about Fred, the best friend of Luke Skywalker who was always at his side since Luke was 8. Why? Because according to all previous media Fred does not exist.

Which is Star Trek's problem now.  They keep making prequel after prequel adding more and more characters and technology that you never see or heard of in any of the previous, LATER, Star Trek stories.

Spock keeps getting brothers and sisters!

And I can suspend disbelief in terms of effects.  I can believe the original series really did look like Discovery or the reboots or even Enterprise, but they just didn't have the budget or technology in the 60s.  But it was SUPPOSED to look like it does today.  So I don't question the look of it.
I question using advanced technology in the prequel shows that didn't exist in the later shows


Exactly. Visuals can change a lot, that is relatively trivial as long as they keep the major themes in the visuals the same. But where is the instant warp tech from Discovery? Where are the teleport technologies that can beam someone to a ship at warp? Where is the interplanetary beaming? Where is the farking superblood that reverses death? It is almost as if they wanted cool visuals and consequences that could be undone with a mcguffin without considering any of the consequences of the mcguffin.

/I also accept that the 8-bit Mario and the later versions are all the same person
 
2021-01-14 3:17:39 PM  

Socrofece: You know what I think is neat?  Back 15 years ago, "the Fandom" declared that the Prequels were abominations that should be erased, and that George Lucas killed their childhoods... did you SEE those HILARIOUS Plinkett videos?  Call the Burn Unit!

....but a whole generation of kids didn't listen to any of it, and they loved the movies, and they loved The Clone Wars even more.  And now they're looking forward to The Bad Batch and the Obi-wan Kenobi series, both of which are Prequel-era in a way.


Honestly, I wasn't a fan of the prequels when they came out (5th-11th grade, I believe) but as I've gotten older, I appreciate them more. The worst part about them (Anakin) was supposed to be the worst part. The new trilogy just seems more like copycats of the original trilogy than the prequels were. I can excuse some copycat work, but the sequels were just sooooo badly done that you couldn't hide the fact they were blatant rewrites of the first trilogy.
 
2021-01-14 4:02:51 PM  
Dear High Republic People

You want to know what will get me interested in buying your books?

NOT THIS:
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Love, D-A-M
 
2021-01-14 4:05:13 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Dear High Republic People

You want to know what will get me interested in buying your books?

NOT THIS:
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Love, D-A-M


...It's a book written for 8 to 12 year olds.  Star Wars has been printing books in that vein for decades.
 
2021-01-14 4:17:25 PM  

YodaTuna: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Dear High Republic People

You want to know what will get me interested in buying your books?

NOT THIS:
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Love, D-A-M

...It's a book written for 8 to 12 year olds.  Star Wars has been printing books in that vein for decades.


That's the point. Mando is bringing back the old school fans, while also attracting every other age group. And then you have the people writing YA stories b*tching that their books aren't bringing in the fanbase they expected.
 
2021-01-14 4:32:45 PM  

somedude210: but as I've gotten older, I appreciate them more.


I've caught parts again on TBS in recent years.  In my opinion they've only gotten worse over time.


somedude210: The worst part about them (Anakin) was supposed to be the worst part.


Are you saying he was supposed to be "the worst" because it was meant to show his descent to the dark side?  That idea alone is very compelling.  However it's the poor depiction of it across the three films why many think his character was the worst.
 
2021-01-14 4:53:43 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: somedude210: but as I've gotten older, I appreciate them more.

I've caught parts again on TBS in recent years.  In my opinion they've only gotten worse over time.


somedude210: The worst part about them (Anakin) was supposed to be the worst part.

Are you saying he was supposed to be "the worst" because it was meant to show his descent to the dark side?  That idea alone is very compelling.  However it's the poor depiction of it across the three films why many think his character was the worst.


Well, the fact that he was supposed to be a whiny entitled teenager. He nailed that part.

But like the Solo movie, it depicts how the person became what we remember in the original trilogy. For Vader, he had to be a whiny teen who thought he was better than everyone and therefore should be in charge. For Solo, he needed to be the optimistic, hopeful youth before becoming a smuggler and learning that the wider universe is just as shiatty as Corellia.

From character development, both are needed to tell the story of how they became who we know and love.

As for the prequels, eh, they're easier to lose yourself in than the sequels. To me, what irked me the most about the sequels was the goddamn Emperor showing up. And they didn't even use the *good* EU option they had open to them, that the Emperor, long ago, set up a storage of clones in case of his death. I mean, even the new bad guys are awful. You had a perfect Remnant from the EU. If the Rogue Squadron series is still canon (and I hope it is, it is the best damn EU series), you had the head of the ISB (empire CIA) take over, and she was the perfect "cold-hearted biatch" villain that *wasn't* an old, pretentious, British white guy Moff or a freaking Jedi.
 
2021-01-14 4:56:44 PM  

somedude210: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: somedude210: but as I've gotten older, I appreciate them more.

I've caught parts again on TBS in recent years.  In my opinion they've only gotten worse over time.


somedude210: The worst part about them (Anakin) was supposed to be the worst part.

Are you saying he was supposed to be "the worst" because it was meant to show his descent to the dark side?  That idea alone is very compelling.  However it's the poor depiction of it across the three films why many think his character was the worst.

Well, the fact that he was supposed to be a whiny entitled teenager. He nailed that part.

But like the Solo movie, it depicts how the person became what we remember in the original trilogy. For Vader, he had to be a whiny teen who thought he was better than everyone and therefore should be in charge. For Solo, he needed to be the optimistic, hopeful youth before becoming a smuggler and learning that the wider universe is just as shiatty as Corellia.

From character development, both are needed to tell the story of how they became who we know and love.

As for the prequels, eh, they're easier to lose yourself in than the sequels. To me, what irked me the most about the sequels was the goddamn Emperor showing up. And they didn't even use the *good* EU option they had open to them, that the Emperor, long ago, set up a storage of clones in case of his death. I mean, even the new bad guys are awful. You had a perfect Remnant from the EU. If the Rogue Squadron series is still canon (and I hope it is, it is the best damn EU series), you had the head of the ISB (empire CIA) take over, and she was the perfect "cold-hearted biatch" villain that *wasn't* an old, pretentious, British white guy Moff or a freaking Jedi.


I also like that they made Thrawn super official canon with his intro in Rebels and his upcoming villainy in the new movie.

But good God, the CGI version just doesn't do the original artist's depiction justice. He looks like an emaciated Smurf-Human
 
2021-01-14 5:09:53 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: YodaTuna: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Dear High Republic People

You want to know what will get me interested in buying your books?

NOT THIS:
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Love, D-A-M

...It's a book written for 8 to 12 year olds.  Star Wars has been printing books in that vein for decades.

That's the point. Mando is bringing back the old school fans, while also attracting every other age group. And then you have the people writing YA stories b*tching that their books aren't bringing in the fanbase they expected.


And my point is that the "b*tching" you're talking about never happened.  You're literally taking clickbait articles at face value.  I follow a number of these authors on Twitter and they've had nothing but praise for The Mandalorian and their THR books have been massively successful.

While you're sitting here posting about a Young Reader book that isn't even out yet, you're ignoring the already existing adult novel Light of the Jedi and the upcoming The Rising Storm (which releases the day after the book you posted).  THR is being aimed at every age group and what has been released so far has matched releases in the upper echelon in sales and reviews of Star Wars books.

You might as well get mad that this exists:
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2021-01-14 5:20:04 PM  

somedude210: set up a storage of clones in case of his death. I mean, even the new bad guys are awful. You had a perfect Remnant from the EU. If the Rogue Squadron series is still canon (and I hope it is, it is the best damn EU series), you had the head of the ISB (empire CIA) take over, and she was the perfect "cold-hearted biatch" villain that *wasn't* an old, pretentious, British white guy Moff or a freaking Jedi.


It's briefly mentioned in the movie, but the clone thing is basically exactly what happens.  The only difference between here and Dark Empire was the inability to create stable force sensitive clones to hold his spirit with only two known successes, the body we see him in and the half clone that was Rey's father.

Rogue Squadron books are not canon, however there is a Rogue Squadron movie coming out in 2023.  Who knows how much they will pull from the books.  Isard was basically a dumber, more erratic Thrawn.
 
2021-01-14 5:37:11 PM  

YodaTuna: somedude210: set up a storage of clones in case of his death. I mean, even the new bad guys are awful. You had a perfect Remnant from the EU. If the Rogue Squadron series is still canon (and I hope it is, it is the best damn EU series), you had the head of the ISB (empire CIA) take over, and she was the perfect "cold-hearted biatch" villain that *wasn't* an old, pretentious, British white guy Moff or a freaking Jedi.

It's briefly mentioned in the movie, but the clone thing is basically exactly what happens.  The only difference between here and Dark Empire was the inability to create stable force sensitive clones to hold his spirit with only two known successes, the body we see him in and the half clone that was Rey's father.

Rogue Squadron books are not canon, however there is a Rogue Squadron movie coming out in 2023.  Who knows how much they will pull from the books.  Isard was basically a dumber, more erratic Thrawn.


The fact that Rogue Squadron isn't canon (as well as the Dark Forces vg series) is a crime against good taste.
 
2021-01-14 9:53:21 PM  

grumpfuff: kyleaugustus: Okay, we have the Republic/Old Republic.  There's the New Republic.  There's the Galactic Empire, the Imperial Remnant (which is a crappy name that makes me think of the Bolshevik/Menshevik scheme).  Thrawn had his Empire of the Hand, or whatever.

What the heck is a High Republic?  Is this some nation above the galactic plain?

It's like a normal Republic, but with a lot of drugs.


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2021-01-15 12:10:51 AM  

bloobeary: Champion of the Sun: Blaming toxic fandom before release. Sounds like they got a stinker on their hands. Not bad enough for overblown sexism or anti-semitism allegations though, so I might check it out.

They've got their heads rammed up their own backsides, convinced that they're making high art, serious important art that should be regarded with almost religious divinity. Are you not in awe of them and their magnificent design?

Well, no. Because it turns out that what people want is popcorn entertainment that still remembers how cool and fun space opera can be. A little grungy and rough around the edges. Doesn't take itself too seriously. Knows how and when to be kick-ass.

It's the ages old problem: high art vs crap that sells. And the crap that sells is what people are buying.

Disney seems to be following the money. In this case that's no bad thing.


Andy Warhol's whole point was that the only difference between "high art" and "crap that sells" is the snobbery of the audience.

it's all art.  and whether it's good or not is in the eye of the beholder.

Favreau and team made a nice 2 season story that ended on a bit of nostalgia.  If there's no Season 3 and that team goes off to create another small story completely unrelated, I'd be happy with that.  Honestly kinda gladd to see Grogu leave as the whole "Bj and the Bear" bit was starting to wear and could only go bad.

I think the HR team is afraid that their property won't reach as large of an audience and is afraid they'll get cancelled if they dont put up Mandolorian numbers out of the gate.  I find their "lack of faith" in their product "disturbing".
 
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