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2021-01-13 3:20:07 PM  
So, the old YouTube comment section then?
 
2021-01-13 3:23:16 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So, the old YouTube comment section then?


Pretty much
 
2021-01-13 3:57:31 PM  
Okay.

I'll give them some props for "Mark Suckerturd."
 
2021-01-13 4:04:12 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So, the old YouTube comment section then?


YouTube doesn't have comments anymore?

That was the main reason to go to YouTube...
 
2021-01-13 4:43:39 PM  
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2021-01-13 4:51:41 PM  
i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.
 
2021-01-13 4:55:09 PM  

Shostie: Okay.

I'll give them some props for "Mark Suckerturd."



i think most of them just need to get laid.  they need to drop their cocks, grab their socks, and go out/socialize.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2021-01-13 4:59:44 PM  

Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.


Can you show us another seat of American federal power that does a better job?

We defend the one we have, not the one we would like to have.
 
2021-01-13 5:00:10 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Parler just needs to get the list of filtered words that are in place here on fark and apply that to their site. I for one would love to see heads asplode when they are angry over all of the n-words. (God I hope the filter was active).


It was. But that's a new one. Wasn't it attractive and successful people or something?
 
2021-01-13 5:08:25 PM  

TWX: Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.

Can you show us another seat of American federal power that does a better job?

We defend the one we have, not the one we would like to have.


other nations have more Democracy than us.

Scandinavia, new zealand, australia, canada, and some european nations.

we have a ways to go before we get to their level.  their citizens don't worship consumption and cash like we do.

you can't donate money to public office campaigns in scandianavian countries because they consider it Bribery.

that would be one place to start.....

unless we pull big money out of  our elections and our CONgress, things are going to continue to slide downhill, just as they have over the last 40 years.
 
2021-01-13 5:08:44 PM  
This is the only parler trick I like.
 
2021-01-13 5:43:20 PM  

Linux_Yes: TWX: Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.

Can you show us another seat of American federal power that does a better job?

We defend the one we have, not the one we would like to have.

other nations have more Democracy than us.

Scandinavia, new zealand, australia, canada, and some european nations.

we have a ways to go before we get to their level.  their citizens don't worship consumption and cash like we do.

you can't donate money to public office campaigns in scandianavian countries because they consider it Bribery.

that would be one place to start.....

unless we pull big money out of  our elections and our CONgress, things are going to continue to slide downhill, just as they have over the last 40 years.


Sadly thanks to citizens united and greed, that would require a constitutional amendment.

So a majority of both houses and the state legislatures of 38 states would have to vote yes to kicking themselves out of the money trough.

Never going to happen.
 
2021-01-13 5:52:55 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: The Googles Do Nothing: So, the old YouTube comment section then?

YouTube doesn't have comments anymore?

That was the main reason to go to YouTube...


They do... but for some strange reason they're not completely overrun with far-right and insane douchenozzles.  Granted, most of the videos I look at are from mario-esque video games and car/house fixing videos, but still... back in the day... even completely innocuous videos would be completely overrun with racist/vile/sexist posts.

Maybe they were bots that Youtube purged, maybe automatic moderation is better, maybe they all fleed to another site... who knows.
 
2021-01-13 8:15:11 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: [Fark user image image 464x476]


Lowkey it would be pretty great to tax stupidity like that.
 
2021-01-13 8:19:12 PM  
If you read the comments on an internet website, well, I don't know what else you expect.
 
2021-01-13 9:06:04 PM  

Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.


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You've spent an awful lot of time since the riot explaining that it doesn't matter since none of our corporate overlords or congresspeople are Bernie Sanders. Almost like you'd rather have the world burn than accept anything less than your Messiah.
 
2021-01-13 9:21:38 PM  
I'm the most cynical person anyone I know has ever known, and I still cannot possibly fathom the notion that there are really adult human beings living in the same country as I do who would even say, much less do, any of those things.

My kids are 21 and 18.  What in the actual everloving fark have we given them?

I'm going to take the afternoon of the 20th off and sit in front of the TV with a box of tissues and a bottle of The MacAllan, praying to a God I don't even believe exists that it doesn't get even worse.
 
2021-01-13 9:23:52 PM  

Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.


You haven't hurt our feelings. The problem is that all of us that agree with you can't afford to change that. Those that have the gold, make the rules. But many of us are trying to put younger, unbeholden people into positions to change those rules.
 
2021-01-13 9:43:07 PM  
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But these are Very fine people. How did we nazi this coming?
 
2021-01-13 9:55:08 PM  

Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.


Wow, with such deep political insights like these you must be the smartest person at your high school lunch table
 
2021-01-14 12:03:14 AM  
Were the [sic]s really necessary?  We know they can't spell when typing in impotent rage mode.
 
2021-01-14 4:38:55 AM  

Linux_Yes: i'm not into hate speech, but i'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks capitol hill is the bastion of Democracy.

the place and its congresspeople are owned by big business and the rich.  just look at all the money pouring into their reelection compaigns and the 20,000 deep pocket lobbyists there to "help out" when it comes to writing Legislation.

last time i checked, that is not Democracy.

besides, the US doesn't lead in the World Democracy Index ratings by any stretch.

sorry if i hurt Murcan feelings, but facts are facts.


I wonder what happened that made conservatives suddenly change their minds about corporate influence of government.
 
2021-01-14 6:29:38 AM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: [Fark user image image 464x476]


"We tried to overthrow the government, but we are the real victim here!"
 
2021-01-14 8:04:44 AM  
I have a question I'm putting out there that may appear intentionally flammable. For perspective, I don't and have never supported trump, I've voted D in every presidential election since Reagan, and I believe those who broke into the capitol building should be arrested and punished. I think the comments in the article I read are disgusting. Teachers?

But we celebrated Twitter and other social media when Egyptians were attempting to overthrow Mubarak.

I have a very different subjective view of them and their intent, but objectively, under the laws of the land they were living in, were they not also, objectively, traitors and seditionists? Are we asking AWS and Twitter and Facebook, as corporations, to apply subjective valuations to the government that people may wish to overthrow? Is the difference specifically violence as opposed to illegal activity? Were the Egyptian protesters or other proponents of the "Arab Spring" not promoting violence?

this is intended as a serious question. I'm perfectly willing to admit I may be ignorant about the Middle East protest participants.
 
2021-01-14 9:09:08 AM  
Just look at what Antifa posts!
 
2021-01-14 1:50:50 PM  

shabu: I have a question I'm putting out there that may appear intentionally flammable. For perspective, I don't and have never supported trump, I've voted D in every presidential election since Reagan, and I believe those who broke into the capitol building should be arrested and punished. I think the comments in the article I read are disgusting. Teachers?

But we celebrated Twitter and other social media when Egyptians were attempting to overthrow Mubarak.

I have a very different subjective view of them and their intent, but objectively, under the laws of the land they were living in, were they not also, objectively, traitors and seditionists? Are we asking AWS and Twitter and Facebook, as corporations, to apply subjective valuations to the government that people may wish to overthrow? Is the difference specifically violence as opposed to illegal activity? Were the Egyptian protesters or other proponents of the "Arab Spring" not promoting violence?

this is intended as a serious question. I'm perfectly willing to admit I may be ignorant about the Middle East protest participants.


False equivalency.

The Arab Spring was for democracy against fascist gouvernements.
The Y'all Qaeda tried to overthrow the government to install a dictatorship.

Sometimes, you HAVE to make a judgement call.
 
2021-01-14 4:10:35 PM  

padraig: shabu: I have a question I'm putting out there that may appear intentionally flammable. For perspective, I don't and have never supported trump, I've voted D in every presidential election since Reagan, and I believe those who broke into the capitol building should be arrested and punished. I think the comments in the article I read are disgusting. Teachers?

But we celebrated Twitter and other social media when Egyptians were attempting to overthrow Mubarak.

I have a very different subjective view of them and their intent, but objectively, under the laws of the land they were living in, were they not also, objectively, traitors and seditionists? Are we asking AWS and Twitter and Facebook, as corporations, to apply subjective valuations to the government that people may wish to overthrow? Is the difference specifically violence as opposed to illegal activity? Were the Egyptian protesters or other proponents of the "Arab Spring" not promoting violence?

this is intended as a serious question. I'm perfectly willing to admit I may be ignorant about the Middle East protest participants.

False equivalency.

The Arab Spring was for democracy against fascist gouvernements.
The Y'all Qaeda tried to overthrow the government to install a dictatorship.

Sometimes, you HAVE to make a judgement call.


I do appreciate the feedback, and I respect your opinion. Though I don't agree that he was a fascist. An autocrat and a despot seems like a better description.

False equivalency is dependent on the point of comparison. In the eyes of the legal system for each situation, comparative laws were broken. I absolutely support the intent of the Arab Spring, but I'm not sure I can get behind the corporations making that subjective evaluation. Another corporation could have viewed the Arab revolts from a different perspective and shut down the communication tool the protesters used so effectively.

I'm frankly not a fan of expecting corporations to monitor speech, even speech I dislike, or making subjective valuations of governments. I believe the companies have the right to do so, since they own the platform. And if their choice to ban participants is a way of protecting their brand or retaining the larger part of their customer base, I'm much more empathetic to the decision. But it doesn't seem worthy of celebration or praise. I don't have any issue with the companies shutting down communication that supports breaking the law. I assume that could be an obligation for them, and seems reasonable.

Closing off specific avenues of communication won't make the attitudes go away. I don't love that exposure to the DC mob's world view could essentially recruit more idiots, but the problem is with the number of available idiots, and there will still be ways to reach them.

It does feel like we're seeing a lot of blaming the messenger behavior though. Facebook seems to have more responsibility for the impact of communications on the network due to their algorithm's impact. I'm not a regular Twitter or FB user, so the difference may be ignorance on my part.

in short, it's complicated. I'm not criticizing their action to remove trump's access or shut down Parler. But some of the support for that action seems to be justifying it because the users were bad, and that's where I start to get uncomfortable. I lean hard to the left (I could support a much more socialist government if done smartly), and I've been judged as bad for that reason alone.
 
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