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2021-01-13 3:22:36 PM  
Nothing is set yet. Space command has a minor defense budget for FY2021 and is operating under USAF space command currently. If it does actually become another major command it's HQ will not be in Alabama.
 
2021-01-13 3:26:16 PM  
That was probably some Mo dick sucking there.
 
2021-01-13 3:42:23 PM  
Starfleet only exists after WWIII, so just farking buckle up already. Space command will be a crater while somehow SF survives.

Rodenberry was an optimist to say the least
 
2021-01-13 3:53:55 PM  

optikeye: That was probably some Mo dick sucking there.


Quite literally- Richard Shelby has had a stranglehold on space spending for decades. If he doesn't get  his pork, nothing happens.
 
2021-01-13 4:14:00 PM  

IgG4: Quite literally- Richard Shelby has had a stranglehold on space spending for decades.


I'm rather okay with that. I'm from 'bama. And Shelby is probably one of the better more 'directed' space proponents. Heck I wrote him in 93 to get tickets to the bleacher seats at KSC to see a shuttle launch.
Chuckle farks like Mo Brooks are opertunitiscis asshole with no concept of science.

"Space Command/Space Force" is not a goal oriented science oriented program. It's basically a Joke.
Tho sadly. Shelby will support it no matter what benefit is real.
 
2021-01-13 4:23:50 PM  
Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.
 
2021-01-13 4:33:42 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.


HSV...you're probably more likely to meet Japanese and German tech guys. They have a very nice Cherry Festival there and OctoberFest. Heck, at one point it was one of the few cities in America that had the speed limits posted in both MPH and KPH. I like HSV.
If anything 'bama needs more HSV and BHM and researchers at the UAB.
But you go one with your Anti-Turner Diary Fantasys.
 
2021-01-13 4:34:04 PM  
I was a reservist at MSIC at the Arsenal and in Space Command while active.  Huntsville is a terrible spot.  SMC and folks from Vandenberg will have a hell of a time getting there.  Most of our ground infrastructure is in Colorado and HQ Space Command is in a relatively new building at Peterson.  This sounds like something purely to screw a blue state.
 
2021-01-13 4:34:44 PM  
Redstone arsenal at least has some historical context for rocketry.
 
2021-01-13 4:38:24 PM  
Huntsville has long been a major player in space and rockets. Makes more sense there than most places.
 
2021-01-13 4:40:38 PM  

eurotrader: Nothing is set yet. Space command has a minor defense budget for FY2021 and is operating under USAF space command currently. If it does actually become another major command it's HQ will not be in Alabama.


and at an Army post.
 
2021-01-13 4:42:22 PM  

Any Pie Left: Redstone arsenal at least has some historical context for rocketry.


So does my back yard.
 
2021-01-13 4:42:29 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.


Redstone Arsenal is where the Marshall Space Flight Center is located. It's where Werner Von Braun and the other German V2 rocket scientists were sent after WWII. It's also a defense industry hub since all of the Army rocket and aviation programs are operated out of there.
 
2021-01-13 4:46:10 PM  

optikeye: That was probably some Mo dick sucking there.


Seditious Congressional districts should have their defense dollars reapportioned, don't you think?
 
2021-01-13 4:58:28 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.


Huntsville is pretty big in the space community.

My bet was it was going to come down to Vandenberg north of LA, Colorado Springs, or Huntsville.
 
2021-01-13 4:59:07 PM  

steve_wmn: AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.

Redstone Arsenal is where the Marshall Space Flight Center is located. It's where Werner Von Braun and the other German V2 rocket scientists were sent after WWII. It's also a defense industry hub since all of the Army rocket and aviation programs are operated out of there.


Well.

That's not nearly as funny as what ol' Boozer said.
 
2021-01-13 5:11:31 PM  

NkThrasher: AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.

Huntsville is pretty big in the space community.

My bet was it was going to come down to Vandenberg north of LA, Colorado Springs, or Huntsville.


Vandenberg, that is in a safe zone, outside to neo confederate sedition territory.  So, the space command should go there.  When the Civil war comes, we don't want trumpers having access to the high ground.  We should pull out all the hardware from AL and then whatever cannot be pulled out, the military should blow it up.  the military has to do what it can now before the civil war goes full on hot, to stop the trump storm troops from getting access to the satelites either for laser weapons or for recon.  Whatever we have up there.  All military in every trump zone should be pulled out and put into safe zones.  Of course, the personel will have to be vetted, with all the trumper military infiltrators either exiled or purged somehow.  The war is on the horizon.  The trumpers won't have mercy on us if we are not ready for them.  So we have to get ready, and we have to take the high ground first.
 
2021-01-13 5:18:31 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: We should pull out all the hardware from AL and then whatever cannot be pulled out, the military should blow it up.  the military has to do what it can now before the civil war goes full on hot, to stop the trump storm troops from getting access to the satelites either for laser weapons or for recon.  Whatever we have up there.  All military in every trump zone should be pulled out and put into safe zones.


Dude, put down the bong and whatever graphic novel you've been chewing on.
Also, are you okay? Have you been getting any 'scripts renewed. They do that by phone and video chat now.
 
2021-01-13 5:21:31 PM  

optikeye: AmbassadorBooze: We should pull out all the hardware from AL and then whatever cannot be pulled out, the military should blow it up.  the military has to do what it can now before the civil war goes full on hot, to stop the trump storm troops from getting access to the satelites either for laser weapons or for recon.  Whatever we have up there.  All military in every trump zone should be pulled out and put into safe zones.

Dude, put down the bong and whatever graphic novel you've been chewing on.
Also, are you okay? Have you been getting any 'scripts renewed. They do that by phone and video chat now.


Shoot, I won't even charge to deliver the meds to his doorstep. I *can* throw them over the fence, right?
 
2021-01-13 5:24:57 PM  

optikeye: AmbassadorBooze: We should pull out all the hardware from AL and then whatever cannot be pulled out, the military should blow it up.  the military has to do what it can now before the civil war goes full on hot, to stop the trump storm troops from getting access to the satelites either for laser weapons or for recon.  Whatever we have up there.  All military in every trump zone should be pulled out and put into safe zones.

Dude, put down the bong and whatever graphic novel you've been chewing on.
Also, are you okay? Have you been getting any 'scripts renewed. They do that by phone and video chat now.


Most people use zoom for video call.  Zoom sends all data into china.  Not going to zoom, I don't support chinese data mining and stealing my biometric data.  Even hard line phone calls are not safe.  Until the BidenHarris uses martial law to deactivate all the call switching centers in trump zones, all our calls might be routed through enemy territory.

Sure, the Biden half of the BidenHarris is pro china, but that just proves he isn't the perfect being of light and love we were hoping for.  But until we have a perfect light being, we have to use what we have, and the BidenHarris is the best hope we have at defeating the Trump and his army of confederates.
 
2021-01-13 5:26:22 PM  

optikeye: If anything 'bama needs more Hue Saturation Value and Barstool Hooker Ma'ams and researchers at the United Arab Ballroom.


?
 
2021-01-13 5:28:21 PM  
Have you been getting any 'scripts renewed.

AmbassadorBooze:

I don't support chinese data mining and stealing my biometric data.

If you take enough of the pink ones, you won't *have* any biometric data to be stolen!
 
2021-01-13 5:30:30 PM  
From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.
 
2021-01-13 5:31:23 PM  

avian: From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.


That's what she *I* said.
 
2021-01-13 5:35:07 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.


Most people who are familiar with the place know that Huntsville is not really Alabama. Huntsville is a good sized, moderate, well-educated city. Alabama doesn't have any of those.
 
2021-01-13 5:39:17 PM  

Boojum2k: Huntsville has long been a major player in space and rockets. Makes more sense there than most places.


cost of living much lower than san fran.
 
2021-01-13 5:40:01 PM  

avian: AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.

Most people who are familiar with the place know that Huntsville is not really Alabama. Huntsville is a good sized, moderate, well-educated city. Alabama doesn't have any of those.



wats yew spect dem ta do, ya moran??
 
2021-01-13 5:41:00 PM  

avian: From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.


Oh yeah. Like Maxwell in Montgomery would be better. Or Pensacola Fla. They're grunt barracks.

Back when I was chasing troop trains.
I once had a Navy pilot I met at Navarre beach tell me tequlia would put hair on my chest. Yup...it did..his hair, my chest tho.
 
2021-01-13 5:41:08 PM  

avian: From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.


Aim Higher!
Space Command!!
 
2021-01-13 5:42:41 PM  

avian: AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.

Most people who are familiar with the place know that Huntsville is not really Alabama. Huntsville is a good sized, moderate, well-educated city. Alabama doesn't have any of those.


OK, new plan.  We send in the military to build a wall around Huntsville and use it as a base of operations for the purge of the red zone outside the wall.  Full on military stronghold.  We need heavy guns and whatever it takes to keep huntsville safe from the trump.  Full on mining of the land outside the city limits.  Nobody in our out, except via airplane or helicopter.  It will be tough on the inhabitans, but we can evacuate them to a blue zone.  Huntsville should be evacutated if they have no land supply lines for the civilan pop that doesn't go through trump territory.  Of course the hardware there should be wired to explode if the trump troops overrun the defences.
 
2021-01-13 5:43:22 PM  

SansNeural: Any Pie Left: Redstone arsenal at least has some historical context for rocketry.

So does my back yard.


true

but the bottle rocket launch out of your bung hole was a little over the top.
 
2021-01-13 5:45:00 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: avian: AmbassadorBooze: Isn't AL a stronghold of the traitors and neo confeds that tried a coup a few days ago?  Maybe we should draw out all military hardware from the zones of treason and put the hardware in areas that are likely safe from being hijacked by the trumpers.  A civil war is on the horizon, and we don't need the confederates having access to space command, or other military assets.  We will need the assets to wipe them out instead.

Most people who are familiar with the place know that Huntsville is not really Alabama. Huntsville is a good sized, moderate, well-educated city. Alabama doesn't have any of those.

OK, new plan.  We send in the military to build a wall around Huntsville and use it as a base of operations for the purge of the red zone outside the wall.  Full on military stronghold.  We need heavy guns and whatever it takes to keep huntsville safe from the trump.  Full on mining of the land outside the city limits.  Nobody in our out, except via airplane or helicopter.  It will be tough on the inhabitans, but we can evacuate them to a blue zone.  Huntsville should be evacutated if they have no land supply lines for the civilan pop that doesn't go through trump territory.  Of course the hardware there should be wired to explode if the trump troops overrun the defences.


Well.... Alrighty then.....
 
2021-01-13 5:45:22 PM  

Linux_Yes: SansNeural: Any Pie Left: Redstone arsenal at least has some historical context for rocketry.

So does my back yard.

true

but the bottle rocket launch out of your bung hole was a little over the top.


Dude, be real.

That was just the spicy tofu I had for lunch.
 
2021-01-13 5:45:44 PM  

optikeye: avian: From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.

Oh yeah. Like Maxwell in Montgomery would be better. Or Pensacola Fla. They're grunt barracks.

Back when I was chasing troop trains.
I once had a Navy pilot I met at Navarre beach tell me tequlia would put hair on my chest. Yup...it did..his hair, my chest tho.


some of them can turn running backs into wide receivers.
 
2021-01-13 5:51:50 PM  

Linux_Yes: optikeye: avian: From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.

Oh yeah. Like Maxwell in Montgomery would be better. Or Pensacola Fla. They're grunt barracks.

Back when I was chasing troop trains.
I once had a Navy pilot I met at Navarre beach tell me tequlia would put hair on my chest. Yup...it did..his hair, my chest tho.

some of them can turn running backs into wide receivers.


Look, in the early 80's I was a troop train chaser. Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines, even the Air Nat Guard.
It was like Pokemon. collected the whole set with bonus police and fire and emt.
Well, I finally settled down with a FORMER (or "inactive') NOT EX MARINE. 30 years ago and haven't looked back. But that's mostly because I don't have eyes in the back of my head.
 
2021-01-13 5:58:35 PM  
Oh fark...this is green. Oh well.
 
2021-01-13 6:00:45 PM  

optikeye: Oh fark...this is green. Oh well.


We get it - you're taken.  Don't sweat it.
 
2021-01-13 6:20:22 PM  
Will remain in Colorado Springs for the next 6 years.

I am hoping after the Biden comes in they pull the Huntsville deal and blame it on sedition from Mo and Tuberville.

Rumors are Shelby may not run for reelection.
 
2021-01-13 6:24:20 PM  

50th: Rumors are Shelby may not run for reelection.


He's getting old and tired.
Tho having Shelby's seat vacated...at this time of crazy years, means it just will be replaced by someone even more insane..and someone that actively hates science and education no matter the benefit to the state because "Jesus".
 
2021-01-13 6:35:47 PM  

optikeye: 50th: Rumors are Shelby may not run for reelection.

He's getting old and tired.
Tho having Shelby's seat vacated...at this time of crazy years, means it just will be replaced by someone even more insane..and someone that actively hates science and education no matter the benefit to the state because "Jesus".


The coming investigations and public hearing are going to change some things, plus campaign finance laws to end dark money will help return sanity.

/Not quickly but look at what happened in GA Senate races. Forward is forward
 
2021-01-13 7:34:05 PM  

optikeye: avian: From the short list of bases, they skip all the Air Force bases, and select the Army base for Space Command! Genius idea.

Oh yeah. Like Maxwell in Montgomery would be better. Or Pensacola Fla. They're grunt barracks.

Back when I was chasing troop trains.
I once had a Navy pilot I met at Navarre beach tell me tequlia would put hair on my chest. Yup...it did..his hair, my chest tho.


Those aren't necessarily better. I was more thinking Peterson and Offutt as the logical choices. You know, the bases already involved in Space Command.
 
2021-01-13 7:48:54 PM  
Makes sense, that's where they put all the Nazi rocket scientists that got us to the moon.
 
2021-01-13 7:58:39 PM  

docrhody: Makes sense, that's where they put all the Nazi rocket scientists that got us to the moon.


We should have given the nazis the same treatment we gave the Japnaese monarchists in world war 2.  We should have nuked them into subjugation.  We should have destroyed them so completely they enjoy tenticle porn.  Germany, ouy of shame, should disband now.  Become a nation of no nationality.  No more pride.  Total subjugation to the machine.

The US should disband their records of going to the moon first, until a non nazi can get anybody to the moon without nazi knowledge.

We need to nuke all the nazi knowledge in the world, and have the nazi states or countries be willing to end their power.
 
2021-01-13 8:03:34 PM  
Huntsville?  I guess they wanted their training facility just down the road.


Space Camp (1986) ORIGINAL TRAILER
Youtube ISPHII9F1nQ


/was told by other people at NASA that Huntspatch wasn't as bad as the rest of Alabama
//still refuses to go back to that state
 
2021-01-13 8:17:53 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: docrhody: Makes sense, that's where they put all the Nazi rocket scientists that got us to the moon.

We should have given the nazis the same treatment we gave the Japnaese monarchists in world war 2.  We should have nuked them into subjugation.  We should have destroyed them so completely they enjoy tenticle porn.  Germany, ouy of shame, should disband now.  Become a nation of no nationality.  No more pride.  Total subjugation to the machine.

The US should disband their records of going to the moon first, until a non nazi can get anybody to the moon without nazi knowledge.

We need to nuke all the nazi knowledge in the world, and have the nazi states or countries be willing to end their power.


That was so stupid I don't know if you are joking or not.

Jet Engines and Rocketry in general came out of Nazi Germany. There would have been no Space Program in the US or USSR without the Nazis.

Not to mention all the assistance in the invention of nuclear weapons provided by the Germans who fled the Nazis.
 
2021-01-13 9:04:55 PM  

avian: AmbassadorBooze: docrhody: Makes sense, that's where they put all the Nazi rocket scientists that got us to the moon.

We should have given the nazis the same treatment we gave the Japnaese monarchists in world war 2.  We should have nuked them into subjugation.  We should have destroyed them so completely they enjoy tenticle porn.  Germany, ouy of shame, should disband now.  Become a nation of no nationality.  No more pride.  Total subjugation to the machine.

The US should disband their records of going to the moon first, until a non nazi can get anybody to the moon without nazi knowledge.

We need to nuke all the nazi knowledge in the world, and have the nazi states or countries be willing to end their power.

That was so stupid I don't know if you are joking or not.

Jet Engines and Rocketry in general came out of Nazi Germany. There would have been no Space Program in the US or USSR without the Nazis.

Not to mention all the assistance in the invention of nuclear weapons provided by the Germans who fled the Nazis.


That's like saying without the wright brothers flight would be impossible.  Somebody would invent it.  Hell, there are people alleged to have invented flight before the orvil and the wilbur.  So we could have nuked Japan, nuked Germany, for their sins, and then destroyed the captured scientists and their writings.  Use non corrupt scientists to create the equations needed.  Problem solved.
 
2021-01-13 9:09:50 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: avian: AmbassadorBooze: docrhody: Makes sense, that's where they put all the Nazi rocket scientists that got us to the moon.

We should have given the nazis the same treatment we gave the Japnaese monarchists in world war 2.  We should have nuked them into subjugation.  We should have destroyed them so completely they enjoy tenticle porn.  Germany, ouy of shame, should disband now.  Become a nation of no nationality.  No more pride.  Total subjugation to the machine.

The US should disband their records of going to the moon first, until a non nazi can get anybody to the moon without nazi knowledge.

We need to nuke all the nazi knowledge in the world, and have the nazi states or countries be willing to end their power.

That was so stupid I don't know if you are joking or not.

Jet Engines and Rocketry in general came out of Nazi Germany. There would have been no Space Program in the US or USSR without the Nazis.

Not to mention all the assistance in the invention of nuclear weapons provided by the Germans who fled the Nazis.

That's like saying without the wright brothers flight would be impossible.  Somebody would invent it.  Hell, there are people alleged to have invented flight before the orvil and the wilbur.  So we could have nuked Japan, nuked Germany, for their sins, and then destroyed the captured scientists and their writings.  Use non corrupt scientists to create the equations needed.  Problem solved.


You do know that worked both ways. If the nuclear scientist didn't jump Nazi ship. Germany would have nuked London. Then New York.
We got the good first and did a 'end game' with Japan. Because they (the leaders) where stubborn  assholes that didn't understand anything other total smack down.
 
2021-01-13 9:12:41 PM  
Huntsville is the only thing keeping Alabama's educational performance ahead of Mississippi.  You can't take that away.
 
2021-01-13 9:51:26 PM  

006andahalf: Huntsville is the only thing keeping Alabama's educational performance ahead of Mississippi.  You can't take that away.


Why not?  Because the non Huntsville parts will get dumber? Or because Huntsville is bringing the average up, disguising the dumbness of the rest of the state.
 
2021-01-13 11:34:13 PM  
Lol.

"Hey Timmy, you have really great grades in your STEM classes. Any idea what you want to do with your life?"

"Yeah, I want to be a rocket scientist!"

"Oh, that's awesome! I just happen to be a recruiter for Space Force. Yes, I know it sounds like a four-year-old made up the name, but that doesn't change the fact that if you join us, you'd have the opportunity to work on the bleeding edge of rocketry, not to mention other, extremely cool, top secret technology."

"Oh wow, that sounds pretty great. So I'd be in like Seattle, or Silicon Valley, or Austin maybe? Places where it would be easy to encounter other forward-thinking tech minds, and stimulate thinking outside the box?"

"Uhhh... Say... Any chance you *haven't* heard of Alabama, Timmy?"

Christ on a cracker, fark everything about this country, other than the unending fortitude of its minorities.
 
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