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(NYPost)   US cancer deaths hit 'single-year record drop'. Probably because they're all dying of Covid instead   (nypost.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Cancer, Cancerdeath rates, American Cancer Society, lung cancertreatment, overall cancer mortality rate, lung cancer, percent decrease, percent drop  
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923 clicks; posted to Main » on 13 Jan 2021 at 3:44 PM (8 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-01-13 10:54:00 AM  
Hurr Der ferxing der nermbrez durr
 
2021-01-13 3:46:47 PM  
Can't explain that!
 
2021-01-13 3:49:21 PM  
I know people are allergic to reading the article, but they aren't talking about 2020

Cancer death rates in the United States hit a record 2.4 percent decrease in 2018, marking a record for the second year in a row and contributing to a 31 percent drop since 1990, the American Cancer Society announced Tuesday.
 
2021-01-13 3:51:50 PM  
Before the subby-induced derp starts, I'd like to point out TFA is about how the 2% drop is in line with expected results, and can be explained by fewer people smoking and improvements in lung cancer treatment.
 
2021-01-13 3:58:57 PM  
if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.
 
2021-01-13 3:59:41 PM  
Makes sense... people began to get smarter about smoking about 20-30 years ago after some of the huge tobacco company settlements, sin tax increases, enhanced SG warnings, etc., and we should be seeing the benefits of that right about now.
 
2021-01-13 4:06:36 PM  
Also they have new immune modulator treatments that are pretty damned good.
 
2021-01-13 4:09:31 PM  
Just an overall horrible reality.
 
2021-01-13 4:13:14 PM  
Doctors falsifying diagnoses to get at that sweet, sweet Covid money
 
2021-01-13 4:13:37 PM  

sinko swimo: if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.


But, slippery slope. Gonna ban sodas and McDonalds? Chex mix libs!

/they can get all all you can eat buffet of free heroin in Oregon, why couldn't I get my smokes
//my coworkers are a font of wisdom and endless talking points
 
2021-01-13 4:14:30 PM  

akya: Before the subby-induced derp starts, I'd like to point out TFA is about how the 2% drop is in line with expected results, and can be explained by fewer people smoking and improvements in lung cancer treatment.


No its cuz hospitals get more money if they say its COVID.  These are facts I have seen places.
 
2021-01-13 4:14:41 PM  
Wow we beat Cancer........or C-19 did!!!!!
 
2021-01-13 4:23:56 PM  
Again Trump gets zero credit. Typical.
 
2021-01-13 4:24:32 PM  

Fark Strunk and White: Doctors falsifying diagnoses to get at that sweet, sweet Covid money


First off the article is talking about 2018 so nice try. Second off I have many patients who have cancer, and many who have Covid. I can assure you that my cancer patients regularly may much higher deductibles throughout the year and their insurance has to cover much more than a single diagnosis of Covid. I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to insinuate here but if you are attempting to say many of the reported deaths from Covid aren't Covid, I would like to see a sauce. A rudimentary search on the subject yields many articles, one of which I'll link below that says deaths are being vastly underreported, not over.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.phys​i​ciansweekly.com/cdc-number-of-covid-19​-deaths-may-be-underreported/amp/
 
2021-01-13 4:25:22 PM  

CarnySaur: akya: Before the subby-induced derp starts, I'd like to point out TFA is about how the 2% drop is in line with expected results, and can be explained by fewer people smoking and improvements in lung cancer treatment.

No its cuz hospitals get more money if they say its COVID.  These are facts I have seen places.


More than likely this is sarcasm which if so is great. Otherwise can I get some sauce with this nugget of info?
 
2021-01-13 4:37:36 PM  

sinko swimo: if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.


Why don't we pick a State, say California, where one can put these things up to a vote.  Put a ban on the ballot and see how well it all works out.  The War on Drugs has been such a spectacular success so far, I'm sure other States will quickly follow.

Then, lets go after the demon booze.  I think as a nation, we are finally ready for a return of the 18th Amendment.
 
2021-01-13 4:42:42 PM  

sinko swimo: if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.


But the shareholders....
 
2021-01-13 4:47:32 PM  

sinko swimo: if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.


my body. my choice!
 
2021-01-13 5:01:55 PM  

Fark Strunk and White: Doctors falsifying diagnoses to get at that sweet, sweet Covid money


There's sweet sweet glory in being the first to use superexpensivecancerdrugthatwontgetpai​dforbyinsurancebutphysiciandoesntgivea​shiat.  The argument over Covid money is tired and wrong.
 
2021-01-13 5:04:11 PM  
Clearly COVID-19 cures cancer - the correlation is unmistakable.
 
2021-01-13 5:21:18 PM  
Cancer diagnoses have dropped as well due to people not getting checked out during the pandemic, but doesn't mean it isn't happening.  Since autopsies aren't always done, I'd say it 's probably safe to say that some of these people actually had cancer.
 
2021-01-13 5:34:43 PM  
According to the report, "survival rates are lower for Black patients than for Whites for every cancer type except pancreas and kidney, for which they are the same."

Oh they make it sound like they've managed to get better outcomes for Black patients when it comes to pancreas or kidney cancer.

Unfortunately, it's just that pancreas and kidney cancer are so nasty, not even being white can save you.
 
2021-01-13 6:29:05 PM  

Eightballjacket: sinko swimo: if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.

Why don't we pick a State, say California, where one can put these things up to a vote.  Put a ban on the ballot and see how well it all works out.  The War on Drugs has been such a spectacular success so far, I'm sure other States will quickly follow.

Then, lets go after the demon booze.  I think as a nation, we are finally ready for a return of the 18th Amendment.


so says Eightball!  :)
 
2021-01-13 7:10:44 PM  
Makes sense.  Someone fighting cancer is going to have a weakened immune system so is less likely to fight off covid.
 
2021-01-13 7:12:16 PM  

Eightballjacket: Why don't we pick a State, say California


Stop giving people here in California more stupid ideas.
 
2021-01-13 8:02:36 PM  
There was a head on collision around here the other day. Both drivers died from COVID related injuries.
 
2021-01-13 8:12:26 PM  

WhatsSoGodDamnPunny: CarnySaur: akya: Before the subby-induced derp starts, I'd like to point out TFA is about how the 2% drop is in line with expected results, and can be explained by fewer people smoking and improvements in lung cancer treatment.

No its cuz hospitals get more money if they say its COVID.  These are facts I have seen places.

More than likely this is sarcasm which if so is great. Otherwise can I get some sauce with this nugget of info?


Heh, you just turned a trip into a slick pirouette.
 
2021-01-13 9:09:51 PM  
well, they are still dying of cancer, but its reported as 'covid with underlying conditions'. gotta keep those numbers up!
 
2021-01-13 10:09:17 PM  
But still excess deaths.
 
2021-01-14 12:30:58 AM  
All I know is that I was diagnosed with Stage-4 cancer in March of 2020.  Surgery, Chemo and 45 Radiation treatments later, I am cancer-free.
 
2021-01-14 7:56:27 AM  

Fark Strunk and White: Doctors falsifying diagnoses to get at that sweet, sweet Covid money


I'm an optimist and assume that was sarcasm. On Fark you need to use a /s tag or you may be misunderstood. It is a shame that with millions of people carrying a portable device with access to all the information in the farking WORLD, so many make little effort to use it.

A two minute foray reveals hospitals and clinics receive a 20% boost in Medicare payment for treatments of covid patients because we recognize that it costs more to treat them and the reimbursements are 20% less than insurance companies pay for the same services. It still isn't enough to cover the real costs. If they are overrun by patients we make them take, but don't pay for they will close. Covid is not a money maker for them. They probably need more hip and knee replacements,  stents an bypass surgeries.
 
2021-01-14 9:14:03 AM  
AMAZING!! Guess when you fudge the numbers for a year, all other numbers are fudged too. SHOCKING. Cancer wards must be empty! Thanks Trump
 
2021-01-14 12:50:32 PM  
Well you are half right.....I have no doubt they are falsely counting them as such......got to get them numbers up......
 
2021-01-14 2:54:22 PM  

sinko swimo: if your government at all gave a damn about you tobacco products would not be available for purchase.


If you cared all about you, you wouldn't purchase tobacco.
 
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