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(Politico)   Good news: The US military IS aware that they have a "domestic terrorism problem". The bad news: they have NO IDEA how bad it is, and anti-hate group researchers and online activists are better at finding problem soldiers than military is   (politico.com) divider line
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2021-01-12 6:28:04 PM  
Some of those in armed forces
Are the same that burn crosses
 
2021-01-12 6:59:02 PM  
They've had issues with this off and on but they're weak on dealing with it. For instance, every cultural survey shows racial problems regarding representation, schools selection, job placement, and promotions. It's a never-ending issue. They whys of that are multifaceted.

In the early 90s, the services got very worried about gang influence in the ranks. They got very picky on who they would take which was easy enough during the post Cold War drawdown days). But how to do that? They struggled. They decided tattoos were one thing to watch so gang tattoos meant no enlistment. The overall tattoo policies of the services became very restrictive.

Guess what was relaxed not so recently? Tattoo policies. It is not uncommon to see tats that reference fascism/Nazis. Not to mention guys that seem to have acres of ink.

Now none of that prevents extremism in the ranks. I'm just pointing out that the brass flounders a lot trying to recognize it let alone deal with it.
 
2021-01-12 7:27:14 PM  
Being a domestic terrorist is probably more attractive than being a soldier.  For one thing, nobody shoots at domestic terrorists.
 
2021-01-12 7:38:48 PM  
The problem is there was Ruby Ridge and Waco that happened in the early 90s. Fox News was just getting going and they got a lot of mileage out of jumping up and down screaming persecution and they used Clinton's president to grow their militia groups. President Obama was made aware of the problem of white supremacy and Nazi infiltration in the military and tried to form a commission on it but he was a black man and again the right wing noise machine sprang into action and the commission was abandoned.

So this problem has had 30 days to fester until the insurrection was the culmination of it.

Finally they're being declared terrorists but the right wing noise machine is trying to play victim

Not this time, boyo.

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2021-01-12 7:39:50 PM  
30 YEARS, not 30 days, damn my flying fingers.
 
2021-01-12 7:52:00 PM  
PWT FTW!
 
2021-01-12 10:14:13 PM  
The military doesn't touch domestic law enforcement and for VERY good reasons.
 
2021-01-12 10:15:41 PM  

foo monkey: Being a domestic terrorist is probably more attractive than being a soldier.  For one thing, nobody shoots at domestic terrorists.


ymmv with your skin color
 
2021-01-12 10:16:25 PM  

GoldSpider: The military doesn't touch domestic law enforcement and for VERY good reasons.


Ok, headline kinda threw me for a loop.
 
2021-01-12 10:16:46 PM  
Something tells me they could just go check every SOF guys locker, then boot half of them.

Catch a good # of war criminals while they're at it.
 
2021-01-12 10:17:20 PM  
Wow, it sounds like they should really be officially enlisting the help and expertise of those researchers and activists to get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible, huh?
 
2021-01-12 10:17:48 PM  
Timothy McVeigh was the writing on the wall back in 1995. They just don't care.
 
2021-01-12 10:18:36 PM  
Its because those organizations do not want to find it.
 
2021-01-12 10:18:38 PM  
fark racists
 
2021-01-12 10:20:31 PM  
Gee, it's almost as if tolerating intolerance breeds...intolerance.

Which it does. This started in at least the 70s, when it became at a minimum frowned upon to be "judgmental" and to tell others that their opinions were stupid. It progressed through the 80s when "everyone's opinion has equal merit and both sides have equal value" as if anyone's ignorant thought was equivalent to a peer-reviewed study.

And lest you think this is something new or can be laid off solely to the Republicans, it began with the hippie movement of the 1960's. "You do your thing and I'll do mine." Well, guess what, young padawan. The tolerance of the 60s didn't only affect the hippie-dippies at Woodstock and Haight Ashbury. It became a part of our society. Also guess what. The hippies...were Boomers. Before idiot social media gabblers got into it, it used to be that the defining moment of the Boomer generation was the Summer of Love. The same Boomers who are today up in Congress wrecking things today, and whose children became, not Gen-Xers--we're the kids of the prewar generation--but Millennials.

Starting to see the pattern? Maybe? A little?
 
2021-01-12 10:21:46 PM  

austerity101: Wow, it sounds like they should really be officially enlisting the help and expertise of those researchers and activists to get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible, huh?


It's been hilarious watching all the journalists and "experts" flounder around asking "how could this happen?  Who are these people?" while a bunch of Twitter antifascists are just like "oh yeah, that's Tom.  2nd SS Panzer Division is his fave, he takes his burgers medium, and he's 1/4 Jewish and is really hoping his buddies don't find out".

People have been telling them to pay attention for years, yet journos managed to "both sides" their way into willful blindness.

Also, while yes they should enlist the help of these researchers, we all know they want.  Quiet, unobtrusive, and unproductive investigations are what the brass want now.
 
2021-01-12 10:25:22 PM  

Weatherkiss: Timothy McVeigh was the writing on the wall back in 1995. They just don't care.


They blamed Clinton and the libs back then too, despite McVeigh being radicalized during the Bush years.
 
2021-01-12 10:25:58 PM  
The military is lying.
They know how bad it is. They don't want to admit it, let alone deal with it, just like how they've dealt with sexual assaults against women.
 
2021-01-12 10:28:06 PM  
Well, the important thing is that they were able to keep out the gays for decades. Was certainly a better use of resources than preventing seditionist uprisings.
 
2021-01-12 10:29:33 PM  
They're going to be in for a shock then when they discover the scope of the problem.
 
2021-01-12 10:31:06 PM  

eyeq360: The military is lying.
They know how bad it is. They don't want to admit it, let alone deal with it, just like how they've dealt with sexual assaults against women.


... and men. There are many victims.
 
2021-01-12 10:31:31 PM  
Passing a law that strips benefits from all veterans if they are linked to White Supremacists seems like a good start.

Then hit civilians with ineligibility for Social Security, Disability, Medicare, Medicaid and other support programs.

I figure the problem will sort itself out pretty quick.
 
2021-01-12 10:32:10 PM  
I'm a federal employee, non leo.

I'll tell you right farking now, the system of granting hiring preference to former military and putting them on par or above those with college degrees is a systemic part of the problem.

Another part is educated, intelligent, moral people being unwilling to take jobs that require them to put aside personal preferences and/or optimal career advancement for a federal job.

Federal jobs pay well. The bennies are good. The retirement is solid. But the kind of folks farkers want in those jobs are folk who'd get better rewards in private industry. Further, the rule of government work is this: every administration changes things, you get little to no input, you do what the new admin says because theoretically the voters chose it.

People hate that. The average acab farker believes cops should follow the law and their admin policies, EXCEPT whenever said farker doesn't get what they want from the current admin. That's not what serving the government means. It means I do what trump or Bush says (constrained by legislation and constitution) even though I hate him. And it means my coworkers do what Obama or Biden (similarly constrained) when the guy they hate is in charge.

To the credit of most of my right wing cohort, they follow the above. But in nearly 30+ threads over the decade I've been federal and posted on Fark, farkers have proudly said they'd never accept that condition.

Unless, and until, liberals/progressives are willing to apply for the spectrum of gov service jobs and do things they don't like, we'll always have a greater number of right wingers in government.

This is not a problem of massive numbers of crazies in the government. It's a problem of a slight majority of conservatives, and that carries over to stuff like the 6th. It doesn't take a large discrepancy in the agencies to see a large number of people at crazy events; only 10-20%.
 
2021-01-12 10:32:23 PM  
Hire the activists?
 
2021-01-12 10:32:54 PM  
Unlike in idiotic bumpkinvilles from which the putschists have largely sprouted, large parts of the services are relatively diverse by racial/religious/cultural background.  Not a lot of hard leftists, but more center-left than you'd expect, especially among officers and the MI types.  What this means is that people are contractually required to get along.  These idiots we saw last wednesday were largely failures in the military because they were so nutty they couldn't get along.

Also, being active duty military means you have a real paying job that keeps people busy and makes a person sometimes feel like an adult, which is like sunlight to the putschist vampire.  Living in an alternate reality fantasy also doesn't generally fly on the daily, despite some politician-enabled instances of Vietnam and Gulf War II.

Special ops are more Balkanized so you'd see more extremes.  I knew an 18Z with halo combat wings, and that dude was a total hippie.  Others read Euclid for fun.  A few go and make idiotic attempts to overthrow Venezuela and get mocked by the rest of the community.
 
2021-01-12 10:34:25 PM  
Soooo, they haven't been looking for trouble makers since in 1940s? Hidden domestic terrorist sounds a lot like a hidden commie!
 
2021-01-12 10:37:34 PM  
Paging General Flynn.
 
2021-01-12 10:39:20 PM  

edmo: They've had issues with this off and on but they're weak on dealing with it. For instance, every cultural survey shows racial problems regarding representation, schools selection, job placement, and promotions. It's a never-ending issue. They whys of that are multifaceted.

In the early 90s, the services got very worried about gang influence in the ranks. They got very picky on who they would take which was easy enough during the post Cold War drawdown days). But how to do that? They struggled. They decided tattoos were one thing to watch so gang tattoos meant no enlistment. The overall tattoo policies of the services became very restrictive.

Guess what was relaxed not so recently? Tattoo policies. It is not uncommon to see tats that reference fascism/Nazis. Not to mention guys that seem to have acres of ink.

Now none of that prevents extremism in the ranks. I'm just pointing out that the brass flounders a lot trying to recognize it let alone deal with it.


I just looked it up, and both the Marines and the Navy have tattoo policies that specifically forbid tattos that are 'prejiducial to good order and discipline."  both specifically calls out racist and extremist tattoos.
 
2021-01-12 10:39:28 PM  
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2021-01-12 10:39:31 PM  

eyeq360: The military is lying.
They know how bad it is. They don't want to admit it, let alone deal with it, just like how they've dealt with sexual assaults against women.


QFT

/source: anecdotal
//am a female USMC vet with stories
///threes
 
2021-01-12 10:40:14 PM  
So they just retasked "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" to white supremacy?
 
2021-01-12 10:45:39 PM  

bthom37: Something tells me they could just go check every SOF guys locker, then boot half of them.

Catch a good # of war criminals while they're at it.


Ya know what makes a good Spec Ops soldier? The kind of mentality that allows them to kill without (much) remorse, and probably NO remorse if those targeted are suspected to have hurt your brothers in arms.

Same mentality plays out when it comes to race, religion, etc. Us vs. Them, and we are ALWAYS the good guys, so whatever we do must be okay, right?

It may not sound like a great idea, but " separate but equal" might be the way to go in some units. I was in the Navy right before women got posted to ships, and I hate to think of the problems we might have had if there had been a reasonably hot woman or two aboard.

Would be very interesting to me to see how a ship, say a small boy like a destroyer, might do with a fully Black crew, vs a fully White crew. A sub could do it since they have Blue and Gold crews that swap out.

Of course, such an experiment could open a can of worms that no one sees coming, and has no ready solution.

We all knew who the racists were on my ship. They made little effort to hide it.
 
2021-01-12 10:46:00 PM  
The entire officer corps is racist as fark
 
2021-01-12 10:46:24 PM  
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2021-01-12 10:55:16 PM  

indy_kid: bthom37: Something tells me they could just go check every SOF guys locker, then boot half of them.

Catch a good # of war criminals while they're at it.

Ya know what makes a good Spec Ops soldier? The kind of mentality that allows them to kill without (much) remorse, and probably NO remorse if those targeted are suspected to have hurt your brothers in arms.

Same mentality plays out when it comes to race, religion, etc. Us vs. Them, and we are ALWAYS the good guys, so whatever we do must be okay, right?

It may not sound like a great idea, but " separate but equal" might be the way to go in some units. I was in the Navy right before women got posted to ships, and I hate to think of the problems we might have had if there had been a reasonably hot woman or two aboard.

Would be very interesting to me to see how a ship, say a small boy like a destroyer, might do with a fully Black crew, vs a fully White crew. A sub could do it since they have Blue and Gold crews that swap out.

Of course, such an experiment could open a can of worms that no one sees coming, and has no ready solution.

We all knew who the racists were on my ship. They made little effort to hide it.


Don't smart yourself.
 
2021-01-12 10:55:52 PM  
I got out in 2010 and the last thing that happened to me in Killeen Texas as I drove away from Fort Hood was a first fight at a gas station after another soldier followed me there because he didn't like the Obama sticker I had on my truck. The O was a peace symbol. I know, how offensive.
 
2021-01-12 10:57:59 PM  

edmo: They've had issues with this off and on but they're weak on dealing with it. For instance, every cultural survey shows racial problems regarding representation, schools selection, job placement, and promotions. It's a never-ending issue. They whys of that are multifaceted.

In the early 90s, the services got very worried about gang influence in the ranks. They got very picky on who they would take which was easy enough during the post Cold War drawdown days). But how to do that? They struggled. They decided tattoos were one thing to watch so gang tattoos meant no enlistment. The overall tattoo policies of the services became very restrictive.

Guess what was relaxed not so recently? Tattoo policies. It is not uncommon to see tats that reference fascism/Nazis. Not to mention guys that seem to have acres of ink.

Now none of that prevents extremism in the ranks. I'm just pointing out that the brass flounders a lot trying to recognize it let alone deal with it.


Extremist tattoos have been and remain reason to bar entry and to remove service members. In fact recently the military asked Congress to increase its ability to remove service members that join, espouse, or show sympathy towards extremist organizations (including the proud boys, oath keepers, and other white supremacists groups).

If and when I meet individuals that espouse such beliefs or have such tattoos I do report it to the S2. It has happened once and I did not see that Soldier again.

I fully agree command climate surveys reflect that we are not doing enough: my particular corps has had a particular issue with recruiting and retaining female Soldiers. This has nothing to do with the quality of female applicants we get and everything to do with the culture surrounding our specialization both in and out of uniform.

Whenever I hear anyone reflect that they believe a given Soldier was advanced because of their color or gender I call that Service Member on it and follow up with the issue with my chain of command if I feel the individual did not take me seriously. I acknowledge this might simply repress the problem but at least it helps grow the culture to understand that such talk is unacceptable and that I will enforce it.

The Army recently removed pictures from promotion boards in order to help the boards focus on the service record of those up for promotion to the senior enlisted and officer ranks instead of color or gender.

My biggest complaint with our EO situation right now is that we are not allowing transgendered individuals to serve. It is my personal feeling that we are too short of great talent to exclude such individuals. I make note of this every chance I get because everyone that wants to should have a chance to serve their nation.
 
2021-01-12 10:58:43 PM  
Why in the hell would the military want to find "problem" soldiers or even soldiers affiliated with domestic hate groups?

Not only is our military an all-volunteer force (setting aside the indoctrination that often leads to enlistment), but it is also the largest military in history. It requires a huge number of the nations' sons and daughters to maintain those numbers. Moreover, hatred based upon ethnicity, national affiliation, or race is crucial to war. Persuading the soldier that the people designated as the nation's enemy are also his enemy lowers his inhibition to violence. Convincing the soldier that all people in a group are less human in some way increases his capacity to kill.

Why do people continue to believe that the military is Boy Scout Fitness Camp and Moral Fun-Time Jamboree?
 
2021-01-12 10:59:30 PM  

indy_kid: bthom37: Something tells me they could just go check every SOF guys locker, then boot half of them.

Catch a good # of war criminals while they're at it.

Ya know what makes a good Spec Ops soldier? The kind of mentality that allows them to kill without (much) remorse, and probably NO remorse if those targeted are suspected to have hurt your brothers in arms.

Same mentality plays out when it comes to race, religion, etc. Us vs. Them, and we are ALWAYS the good guys, so whatever we do must be okay, right?

It may not sound like a great idea, but " separate but equal" might be the way to go in some units. I was in the Navy right before women got posted to ships, and I hate to think of the problems we might have had if there had been a reasonably hot woman or two aboard.

Would be very interesting to me to see how a ship, say a small boy like a destroyer, might do with a fully Black crew, vs a fully White crew. A sub could do it since they have Blue and Gold crews that swap out.

Of course, such an experiment could open a can of worms that no one sees coming, and has no ready solution.

We all knew who the racists were on my ship. They made little effort to hide it.


All of these. I dunno about your "separate but equal" idea, Pops, you sound old. ;) And I think you're just not seeing the intradepartmental rivalries that would show up if you had an all-black crew; then we'd just have Piru vs. Boyle Heights again. Primates need their dominance heirarchies.

Still, it's true what you say about SpecOps. There's a big difference between a man who can kill at a distance with machine gun, and one who can kill close-range with a knife; and we don't spend nearly enough time debriefing and reorienting these guys to society once their tours are done, if they can be returned to society safely.

What really needs to happen is to stand down some of these units completely. And we need to stop deifying the military. They're just guys who did a dirty job, did it well, and now they're home. Let them COME home.
 
2021-01-12 11:08:11 PM  

austerity101: Wow, it sounds like they should really be officially enlisting the help and expertise of those researchers and activists to get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible, huh?


Yeah that might honestly help. Part of the issue is that if the service member does not have any performance issues and no one complains to command we do not go digging too much into their personal life.

This is due to the fact that so often we have service members so locked down that when we can give them room we do. Also service members are still citizens so we do not want to be seen as overly restrictive, or cast the military in any more of a "big brother" light than it already has.

But civilians can help with this! If you know of a service member that is a part of an extremist group, has extremist tattoos, or is publicly espousing bigotry of any form report it to a base CID, EO representative (the are listed publicly) or the FBI tipline.
 
2021-01-12 11:11:00 PM  

meerclarschild: eyeq360: The military is lying.
They know how bad it is. They don't want to admit it, let alone deal with it, just like how they've dealt with sexual assaults against women.

QFT

/source: anecdotal
//am a female USMC vet with stories
///threes


I volunteered for the local VA hospital about a decade ago. That hospital had an entire floor dedicated to female survivors of sexual assault. Male doctors, nurses, and staff were not allowed on the floor because of the trauma some of these women had experienced. Not only do many veterans' groups call out the problem, but the VA is fairly open about the medical and psychological issues that present in its facilities due to sexual assault.
 
2021-01-12 11:12:08 PM  

indy_kid: bthom37: Something tells me they could just go check every SOF guys locker, then boot half of them.

Catch a good # of war criminals while they're at it.

Ya know what makes a good Spec Ops soldier? The kind of mentality that allows them to kill without (much) remorse, and probably NO remorse if those targeted are suspected to have hurt your brothers in arms.

Same mentality plays out when it comes to race, religion, etc. Us vs. Them, and we are ALWAYS the good guys, so whatever we do must be okay, right?

It may not sound like a great idea, but " separate but equal" might be the way to go in some units. I was in the Navy right before women got posted to ships, and I hate to think of the problems we might have had if there had been a reasonably hot woman or two aboard.

Would be very interesting to me to see how a ship, say a small boy like a destroyer, might do with a fully Black crew, vs a fully White crew. A sub could do it since they have Blue and Gold crews that swap out.

Of course, such an experiment could open a can of worms that no one sees coming, and has no ready solution.

We all knew who the racists were on my ship. They made little effort to hide it.


You remember the SEALs who killed the Green Beret just a couple years ago, right?

Right now there's far too many SOF operators because they got "cool".  We could probably stand down half the Teams, randomly boot 20% of Ranger Regiment, etc.  Keep the ones who have a chance of readjusting to civilian life, and assign the rest to EOD on an active bomb range.

As to the rest, I have some wild news about what's happened since 1959.  You might want to brace yourself, although the fact that when you woke up from your coma you figured out computers bodes well for your ability to handle the news about civil rights.
 
2021-01-12 11:15:39 PM  

Bruscar: Why in the hell would the military want to find "problem" soldiers or even soldiers affiliated with domestic hate groups?

Not only is our military an all-volunteer force (setting aside the indoctrination that often leads to enlistment), but it is also the largest military in history. It requires a huge number of the nations' sons and daughters to maintain those numbers. Moreover, hatred based upon ethnicity, national affiliation, or race is crucial to war. Persuading the soldier that the people designated as the nation's enemy are also his enemy lowers his inhibition to violence. Convincing the soldier that all people in a group are less human in some way increases his capacity to kill.

Why do people continue to believe that the military is Boy Scout Fitness Camp and Moral Fun-Time Jamboree?


That is certainly one way to run a military but it is not the only way and frankly such bigotry runs counter to how the actual military runs now.

It still exists but we are fighting against it, it leads to instances like Abu Ghraib and self inflicted attacks on our own service members.

Frankly we are screwed up enough and relying on that bullshiat will not improve the mission readiness, professionalism, or capabilities of our forces.
 
2021-01-12 11:17:52 PM  
We had racists in the Army when I was in. It's not too difficult to spot them, the problem is getting people to give a shiat, both in the lower ranks to report it and up in command to deal with it. Once these guys make E5, it starts getting extremely difficult to get anything done about it as leadership will cover for each other as they don't want to look bad to higher-ups.

But if you're a shiatbag E4 or below, yeah, most units don't have a problem tossing you out.
 
2021-01-12 11:22:19 PM  

Bruscar: meerclarschild: eyeq360: The military is lying.
They know how bad it is. They don't want to admit it, let alone deal with it, just like how they've dealt with sexual assaults against women.

QFT

/source: anecdotal
//am a female USMC vet with stories
///threes

I volunteered for the local VA hospital about a decade ago. That hospital had an entire floor dedicated to female survivors of sexual assault. Male doctors, nurses, and staff were not allowed on the floor because of the trauma some of these women had experienced. Not only do many veterans' groups call out the problem, but the VA is fairly open about the medical and psychological issues that present in its facilities due to sexual assault.


That's been a shift in the VA over the past couple of decades, for sure. But should a VA facility really need a whole floor for survivors of sexual assault? Multiply that by the number of VA facilities. There's a problem at the source.

There's also a huge problem with racism/supremacists. I tangled with a bit of it in the 90s and early 2000s. If there's been a housecleaning, I'd be surprised.
 
2021-01-12 11:31:04 PM  
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2021-01-12 11:35:23 PM  

meerclarschild: Bruscar: meerclarschild: eyeq360: The military is lying.
They know how bad it is. They don't want to admit it, let alone deal with it, just like how they've dealt with sexual assaults against women.

QFT

/source: anecdotal
//am a female USMC vet with stories
///threes

I volunteered for the local VA hospital about a decade ago. That hospital had an entire floor dedicated to female survivors of sexual assault. Male doctors, nurses, and staff were not allowed on the floor because of the trauma some of these women had experienced. Not only do many veterans' groups call out the problem, but the VA is fairly open about the medical and psychological issues that present in its facilities due to sexual assault.

That's been a shift in the VA over the past couple of decades, for sure. But should a VA facility really need a whole floor for survivors of sexual assault? Multiply that by the number of VA facilities. There's a problem at the source.

There's also a huge problem with racism/supremacists. I tangled with a bit of it in the 90s and early 2000s. If there's been a housecleaning, I'd be surprised.


We had a race war going on in the barracks, which culminated with a bunch of white and black soldiers swinging E-tools and fists at each other in the hallways. MPs and CID were called in, lots of people taken to the stockade, confined to quarters, and eventually separated from the Army. Now that was a shame because we all lived and worked together, and would go off to combat together if called up. But nobody trusted anyone else after that. We got pulled off rotation because we had too many people out due to legal problems and manpower shortage.

I really hated it because before all this, we'd all hang out after duty, especially on Friday nights and just sort of migrate through the barracks depending what was happening. I loved playing marathon games of spades, listening to whatever music as loud as we could, or watching Melrose Place with 20 other guys. After the Race War, that all stopped.
 
2021-01-13 12:23:24 AM  
after reading all these posts I'm kind of glad I did a bunch of mushrooms in college and decided that a life of mediocrity was better than joining the military

/ I'm to anti-social to have survived basic
 
2021-01-13 12:27:47 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: after reading all these posts I'm kind of glad I did a bunch of mushrooms in college and decided that a life of mediocrity was better than joining the military

/ I'm to anti-social to have survived basic


Not getting engaged in the testosterone fueled nonsense that can happen in the barracks actually helps with basic.

Frankly I believe part of the reason I have done as well in the military as I have is because I was older when I joined (29 years old at basic). Frankly the maturity, and life experiences I had as a civilian let me be able to address a large number of situations well and to ignore the younger guys headbutting (I had two kids and a wife, I did not need to prove myself to them).

But it is not for everyone and simply serving does not make a person better than not serving.
 
2021-01-13 12:29:01 AM  
General says did news is on all the time almost everywhere.

That could be a big part of the problem.
 
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