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2021-01-12 9:57:56 AM  
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With that raw sewage taste.
 
2021-01-12 10:59:12 AM  
If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.
 
2021-01-12 12:14:21 PM  

cman: If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.


Uh, the Bux doesn't sell coffee any more than Apple sells high end audio equipment.  They sell an image.

People don't go in, order just a coffee, maybe a little cream, and just leave.  No, they go in, get a milkshake, then take selfies with the cup.

Speaking from years of business travel, where I thought Starbucks would be quick as it's on the way to the local office, only to get stuck behind 3 hipsters and a teenager that take 5 minutes each to rattle off their order.
 
2021-01-12 12:24:53 PM  
Well, those little mom and pop shops couldn't keep up with those low Starbucks prices they were famous for.
 
2021-01-12 12:30:52 PM  
Supposedly Starbucks helps create the market for small coffee shops, rather than corner the entire market (unless they happen to open a store right next to a mom-and-pop store, which does happen).
 
2021-01-12 12:30:52 PM  

cman: If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.


Yeah, if anything then actual good coffee shops should have benefitted from normalizing high coffee prices.

They're like a McDonald's that charges Five Guys prices.
 
2021-01-12 12:35:44 PM  
Fark Howard Schultz's so-called centrist ass

/from both sides, of course
 
2021-01-12 1:29:31 PM  

freakdiablo: cman: If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.

Uh, the Bux doesn't sell coffee any more than Apple sells high end audio equipment.  They sell an image.

People don't go in, order just a coffee, maybe a little cream, and just leave.  No, they go in, get a milkshake, then take selfies with the cup.

Speaking from years of business travel, where I thought Starbucks would be quick as it's on the way to the local office, only to get stuck behind 3 hipsters and a teenager that take 5 minutes each to rattle off their order.


Elmer Wheeler - Don't Sell The Steak, Sell the Sizzle
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2021-01-12 1:35:23 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Supposedly Starbucks helps create the market for small coffee shops, rather than corner the entire market (unless they happen to open a store right next to a mom-and-pop store, which does happen).


I don't understand how Starbuck's could put a mom and pop coffee shop out of business.  I keep hearing how bad Starbucks coffee is and we'd all be better drinking golf course run off from water hazards.  All the M&P needs to do is make better coffee.
 
2021-01-12 1:52:24 PM  

freakdiablo: cman: If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.

Uh, the Bux doesn't sell coffee any more than Apple sells high end audio equipment.  They sell an image.

People don't go in, order just a coffee, maybe a little cream, and just leave.  No, they go in, get a milkshake, then take selfies with the cup.

Speaking from years of business travel, where I thought Starbucks would be quick as it's on the way to the local office, only to get stuck behind 3 hipsters and a teenager that take 5 minutes each to rattle off their order.


Don't you have vending machines in USA, or have Starbucks killed them as well?

OK the machines I am used to here, is just coffee with an option for cream and/or sugar, so not the selection Starbucks has.
 
2021-01-12 2:07:12 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: freakdiablo: cman: If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.

Uh, the Bux doesn't sell coffee any more than Apple sells high end audio equipment.  They sell an image.

People don't go in, order just a coffee, maybe a little cream, and just leave.  No, they go in, get a milkshake, then take selfies with the cup.

Speaking from years of business travel, where I thought Starbucks would be quick as it's on the way to the local office, only to get stuck behind 3 hipsters and a teenager that take 5 minutes each to rattle off their order.

Don't you have vending machines in USA, or have Starbucks killed them as well?

OK the machines I am used to here, is just coffee with an option for cream and/or sugar, so not the selection Starbucks has.


There are coffee vending machines around, but I've found they're kind of rare.  Last few I've seen were at highway rest stops that were too small to have an actual coffee shop.

But it seems that those machines are more in danger from standard soft drink machines with energy drinks or pre packaged coffee from... Surprise, Starbucks.
 
2021-01-12 2:16:02 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: Don't you have vending machines in USA, or have Starbucks killed them as well?

OK the machines I am used to here, is just coffee with an option for cream and/or sugar, so not the selection Starbucks has.


Even ignoring Starbucks, decent coffee (actual coffee, not just coffee-based drinks) is basically available everywhere at this point. McDonalds and other fast-food places, sandwich shops (Panera) and delis, bagel places, not to mention the proliferation of higher-end convenience stores. Vending machine coffee just doesn't really make sense unless there literally is no other option around; even Dunkin Donuts coffee is (usually) better.
 
2021-01-12 2:21:01 PM  

freakdiablo: Ketchuponsteak: freakdiablo: cman: If you cant compete with excessively expensive coffee then you really do not deserve to be in business.

Uh, the Bux doesn't sell coffee any more than Apple sells high end audio equipment.  They sell an image.

People don't go in, order just a coffee, maybe a little cream, and just leave.  No, they go in, get a milkshake, then take selfies with the cup.

Speaking from years of business travel, where I thought Starbucks would be quick as it's on the way to the local office, only to get stuck behind 3 hipsters and a teenager that take 5 minutes each to rattle off their order.

Don't you have vending machines in USA, or have Starbucks killed them as well?

OK the machines I am used to here, is just coffee with an option for cream and/or sugar, so not the selection Starbucks has.

There are coffee vending machines around, but I've found they're kind of rare.  Last few I've seen were at highway rest stops that were too small to have an actual coffee shop.

But it seems that those machines are more in danger from standard soft drink machines with energy drinks or pre packaged coffee from... Surprise, Starbucks.


I just realized that I haven't seen a coffee vending machine in years.  I remember using them a lot 25 years ago.
 
2021-01-12 3:39:52 PM  
I stooped going to Starbucks because my favorite drink item (on the menu) always had a 50/50 chance of being made wrong.

/london fog tea latte
//...they usually forget to use earl grey and used royal breakfast instead.
///disappointment gets old after awhile.
 
2021-01-12 4:30:24 PM  
Baristas give me odd looks pretty frequently when I order black coffee from Starbucks.

"You sure you don't want any flavor shots? No Sugar? No Cream? NOTHING!? what are you crazy?  It's going to taste bitter.  You know, like coffee."
 
2021-01-13 6:26:26 AM  
I was so happy when Starbucks proliferated

because I could get a quad espresso for under three bucks ( likely under 2 and 1/4 back then)

that was very much to my taste rather than a quad that sucked and cost 450 or five bucks from an
independent coffee shop

and I could get them on cross-country trips

awesome

thank you
 
2021-01-13 11:28:20 AM  

Joe_diGriz: Ketchuponsteak: Don't you have vending machines in USA, or have Starbucks killed them as well?

OK the machines I am used to here, is just coffee with an option for cream and/or sugar, so not the selection Starbucks has.

Even ignoring Starbucks, decent coffee (actual coffee, not just coffee-based drinks) is basically available everywhere at this point. McDonalds and other fast-food places, sandwich shops (Panera) and delis, bagel places, not to mention the proliferation of higher-end convenience stores. Vending machine coffee just doesn't really make sense unless there literally is no other option around; even Dunkin Donuts coffee is (usually) better.


Maybe McDonald's in USA is special.

But in Denmark McD uses freeze dried coffee, ie., identical to vending machine coffee.

Its also good, atleast to my palate. Way better than coffee that isn't freshly brewed, which I know Starbucks is.


Considering how nuts people get about Kreurig, isn't those pods freeze dried. Ie. again the same as a vending machine?
 
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