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(LA Times)   Moving at warp speed, Dept. of the Army erects 7-foot non-scalable fence around Capitol to prevent violence on January 6   (latimes.com) divider line
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2021-01-10 2:44:06 PM  
I'm still angry about the marketing idiots who made the OS/2 Warp logo "warped" and not because it was the fastest 32-bit OS that ran Windows programs at the time.
 
2021-01-10 2:51:34 PM  
Non-scalable eh?
 
2021-01-10 2:58:08 PM  
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2021-01-10 3:19:54 PM  
This is their idea of non-scalable:

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Then again, these are the sort of people they're trying to deter:

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2021-01-10 3:28:39 PM  
Yes let's put up fences and close the barn door after we watch the horses leave and never return.
 
2021-01-10 3:36:09 PM  
This angers me even more
 
2021-01-10 4:10:09 PM  
I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.
 
2021-01-10 4:15:49 PM  

Walker: I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.


IIRC, part of the reason they handled getting Congress out of there as well as they did was because they had detailed evacuation plans drawn up after the 1998 shooting. Used tunnels and everything.

/Even the Library of Congress has tunnels.
//Like, all three buildings are connected underground
 
2021-01-10 4:18:00 PM  
Needs moar razor wire.
 
2021-01-10 4:18:47 PM  
As long as Mexico is paying for it.....
 
2021-01-10 4:18:54 PM  
I think the fence is there for January 20.
 
2021-01-10 4:23:48 PM  
Would rather see the fences built around the perps' homes - then, as Sonny would say...

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2021-01-10 4:24:02 PM  

Nick Nostril: Needs moar razor wire.


Needs to be two fences with mines and claymores in the space between the first and second fences.
 
2021-01-10 4:25:20 PM  
Non-scaleable maybe...but not non-openable by insurrection-supporters on the inside
 
2021-01-10 4:26:02 PM  
This is a good idea, at least until Biden gets sworn in.
 
2021-01-10 4:26:46 PM  
I'll bet you that Biden eventually takes the Trump White House wall down.
 
2021-01-10 4:26:46 PM  
So they used a time machine to prevent violence on January 6th? No wonder it failed.
 
2021-01-10 4:27:30 PM  
Sources say the new wall, an 8-foot non-scalable fence, will be erected in the immediate and encircling 4' radius of Donald Trump - hopefully preventing further riot activities...
 
2021-01-10 4:27:44 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Yes let's put up fences and close the barn door after we watch the horses leave and never return.


They're assuming it will happen again. Perhaps in roughly 9 to 11 days.
 
2021-01-10 4:28:15 PM  

Lunkquill: I think the fence is there for January 20.


For the person who funnied this there is a ton of online chatter for January 20th just like there was January 6th.
 
2021-01-10 4:28:21 PM  
I've heard there's something going on in D.C. on January 20th, so maybe it won't be a complete waste?
 
2021-01-10 4:28:27 PM  

KarmicDisaster: I'll bet you that Biden eventually takes the Trump White House wall down.


Yes.
 
2021-01-10 4:30:45 PM  
Did Mexico pay for it?
 
2021-01-10 4:30:53 PM  

Fireproof: Walker: I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.

IIRC, part of the reason they handled getting Congress out of there as well as they did was because they had detailed evacuation plans drawn up after the 1998 shooting. Used tunnels and everything.

/Even the Library of Congress has tunnels.
//Like, all three buildings are connected underground


I'm surprised they waited until that late.  In any seat of government power, you'd think detailed evacuation and emergency planning would be a given.  Like the gas masks under all of their seats.  It's just good preparation.
 
2021-01-10 4:34:06 PM  
Can they electrify it?
 
2021-01-10 4:34:29 PM  

Dasher McHappenstance: Non-scalable eh?


I guess they are screwed if they need to widen the area it covers.
 
2021-01-10 4:35:57 PM  
What's the use? They will just tunnel underneath.

And then get stuck like a cork in a bottle.
 
2021-01-10 4:38:09 PM  
Most MAGAts that stay illegally in the capitol just have expired sedition visas. The non-scalable fence isn't going to do anything about that.
 
2021-01-10 4:39:32 PM  

slantsix: So they used a time machine to prevent violence on January 6th? No wonder it failed.


If they exceed the speed of light, they can still go back in time to finish building the fence on January 5th.
 
2021-01-10 4:39:38 PM  
I may be biased, but I think they are moving at weft speed, and trying to selvage their reputation.
 
2021-01-10 4:40:10 PM  
That "Unscalable" seven-foot fence is only there to slow the attackers down, allowing the Capitol Police on the other side to greet them with bayonets.
 
2021-01-10 4:40:18 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Nick Nostril: Needs moar razor wire.

Needs to be two fences with mines and claymores in the space between the first and second fences.


Something like this might do.

/Only half-joking


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2021-01-10 4:40:19 PM  
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2021-01-10 4:40:52 PM  
I bet QAnon claims the fence is to keep Biden and the democrats imprisoned for the coming military tribunals.
 
2021-01-10 4:42:35 PM  

ketkarsa: Can they electrify it?


no need, the domestic terrorists do that themselves:

"Man died at U.S. Capitol after accidentally tasering himself and having a heart attack"
 
2021-01-10 4:42:47 PM  
Can those fences stop a bunch of MAGA SUVs crashing through? Doubt it
 
2021-01-10 4:42:59 PM  

boozehat: As long as Mexico is paying for it.....


Surely the bill should be send to Donald Trump, personally? After all, he is sending his worst people.
 
2021-01-10 4:43:22 PM  

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Gods, that was a bad movie.
 
2021-01-10 4:45:09 PM  

mrparks: Nadie_AZ: Yes let's put up fences and close the barn door after we watch the horses leave and never return.

They're assuming it will happen again. Perhaps in roughly 9 to 11 days.


The chatter on the hate sites are suggesting both 1-19 and 1-20.

I am surprised they haven't demanded independent control of the inaugural activities after the casual attitude don exhibited to the last insurgency.
 
2021-01-10 4:45:40 PM  

Walker: I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.


Security wasn't too bad in the 2000s. You could not go off exploring as you did though. Your visitor badge was coded with info about where you are generally headed. I took a wrong turn once and a guard pretty quickly asked where I was going. It was actually semi convenient, since they direct you back to the office you are visiting.

I imagine they may have changed to always requiring an escort to accompany visitors since then. Or they'll be doing that soon.
 
2021-01-10 4:45:46 PM  

Walker: I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.


Yeah on my Capitol tour I waited in line for half an hour just for the metal detector and got to see like two random rooms, no legislative chambers. All this time, tourists could've just turned the line sideways and gone in.
 
2021-01-10 4:46:07 PM  

Walker: I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.


I can never find it, but there's a great quote some nautical guy gave (to congress? ) in the wake of the sinking of the Titanic about how disasters should never be used to justify change to safety protocols because usually disasters are CAUSED by ignoring extant safety protocols and sure enough, congress ignored him, passed some kind of lifeboat mandate that was forged in ignorance and panic, and that culminated in the completely preventable capsizing of a ferry and dozens if not hundreds of drownings because the new mandatory lifeboats made the vessel dangerously top heavy.

The Capitol doesn't need new security measures, they need the Capitol Police and National Guard not to be clearly compromised in leadership. Erecting a permanent wall to replace that won't help diddly.
 
2021-01-10 4:46:45 PM  
The People's House!
 
2021-01-10 4:46:47 PM  
Is this some sort of time warp?  Because I don't want to do that gain.
 
2021-01-10 4:48:00 PM  

ParallelUniverseParking: Non-scaleable maybe...but not non-openable by insurrection-supporters on the inside


Every fence is non-scalable if you have a couple guys with a crew weapon monitoring it in overlapping sections.
 
2021-01-10 4:48:51 PM  
Trump and his Proud Boyz should pay for it out of their penitentiary wages.
 
2021-01-10 4:50:26 PM  

leeksfromchichis: ParallelUniverseParking: Non-scaleable maybe...but not non-openable by insurrection-supporters on the inside

Every fence is non-scalable if you have a couple guys with a crew weapon monitoring it in overlapping sections.


Fences are always a slowing mechanism, not a stopping mechanism.
 
2021-01-10 4:50:57 PM  

Nick Nostril: Needs moar razor wire snipers.


FIFY
 
2021-01-10 4:51:46 PM  
Doesn't seem adequate. Here, some possible upgrades.

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2021-01-10 4:52:37 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Walker: I'm worried they're gonna end up replacing it with a permanent fence, like the one around the White House, and the only people allowed in would be people that worked there or organized tours. That would be a shame, since it is the "People's House"

Even though I've lived in the DC area my whole life, I only visited the Capitol once, back in 1990. Back then you just walked in and had free reign of the place. You could walk around anywhere you wanted. I even took an elevator down to see their secret subway. They had a shooting there in 1998 where a guy walked in and shot and killed two Capitol Police Officers, so security was enhanced after that, but now I fear they are gonna have a knee-jerk reaction, as they tend to do, and just ban everyone from it and make it a locked down fortress.

I can never find it, but there's a great quote some nautical guy gave (to congress? ) in the wake of the sinking of the Titanic about how disasters should never be used to justify change to safety protocols because usually disasters are CAUSED by ignoring extant safety protocols and sure enough, congress ignored him, passed some kind of lifeboat mandate that was forged in ignorance and panic, and that culminated in the completely preventable capsizing of a ferry and dozens if not hundreds of drownings because the new mandatory lifeboats made the vessel dangerously top heavy.

The Capitol doesn't need new security measures, they need the Capitol Police and National Guard not to be clearly compromised in leadership. Erecting a permanent wall to replace that won't help diddly.


The Eastland Disaster was the end result of knee jerk legislation. 850 drowned by new "safety" measures.

You can probably backtrack the story to find the guy and the appeal to congress not to change any rules before it was determined if the titanic was actually following existing ones
 
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