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2021-01-07 3:14:32 PM  
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2021-01-07 3:53:34 PM  
First DC, then Puerto Rico. 4 new Democratic senators.
 
2021-01-07 4:24:43 PM  
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2021-01-07 5:43:07 PM  
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2021-01-07 6:34:56 PM  
After that, Puerto Rico!
 
2021-01-07 6:37:50 PM  
I wish DC and followed by Puerto Rico would become states but upcoming Vice President Joe Manchin will block that.
 
2021-01-07 6:38:24 PM  
That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.
 
2021-01-07 6:38:37 PM  

hubiestubert: After that, Puerto Rico!


AOC, la Reina!  Senator AOC would be nice too.
 
2021-01-07 6:38:41 PM  

Hellkite85: I wish DC and followed by Puerto Rico would become states but upcoming Vice President Joe Manchin will block that.


Why the hell would they want to join this hot mess?
 
2021-01-07 6:38:55 PM  
F*cking do it.
 
2021-01-07 6:40:50 PM  

Corn_Fed: Hellkite85: I wish DC and followed by Puerto Rico would become states but upcoming Vice President Joe Manchin will block that.

Why the hell would they want to join this hot mess?


Ask their governor - he says he wants to
 
2021-01-07 6:41:26 PM  
So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)
 
2021-01-07 6:41:55 PM  
It's not going to happen, now. Wait a few years for the Republican party to Whig out.
 
2021-01-07 6:42:37 PM  

Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.


Giving DC back to Maryland isn't though.
 
2021-01-07 6:43:09 PM  

Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)


Federal District for the purpose of the seats of government is one thing, but there's way too many permanent residents of the city to just let them remain disenfranchised like they are.
 
2021-01-07 6:43:41 PM  
Then USVI, Guam, American Samoa and Northern Mariana Islands...
 
2021-01-07 6:44:24 PM  

The Madd Mann: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

Giving DC back to Maryland isn't though.


What would the point of that be?
 
2021-01-07 6:45:28 PM  

Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)


All of DC that remains was part of Maryland. The only part of DC that was ceded was to VA, because Congress passed a law that the city had to be constructed on one side of the Potomac, so the other side was basically a slum.
 
2021-01-07 6:45:44 PM  

NeoCortex42: Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)

Federal District for the purpose of the seats of government is one thing, but there's way too many permanent residents of the city to just let them remain disenfranchised like they are.


That's what I'm saying. Cede most of it back to MD and VA. Shrink it down to a triangle surrounding the White House, Supreme Court, and Congress, and their associated office buildings.
 
2021-01-07 6:46:17 PM  

The Madd Mann: Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)

All of DC that remains was part of Maryland. The only part of DC that was ceded was to VA, because Congress passed a law that the city had to be constructed on one side of the Potomac, so the other side was basically a slum.


My bad. I can never remember which state the retrocession was done with.
 
2021-01-07 6:46:27 PM  
This is yet another piece of fallout from this that is actually a good thing.

And btw, statehood for DC means an actual 2 seats in the Senate!
 
2021-01-07 6:46:40 PM  

xevus11: Corn_Fed: Hellkite85: I wish DC and followed by Puerto Rico would become states but upcoming Vice President Joe Manchin will block that.

Why the hell would they want to join this hot mess?

Ask their governor - he says he wants to


Not to mention a majority of its citizens
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2021-01-07 6:46:48 PM  

Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)


No, those Black residents deserve their own state. And their own political voice.

Also, we can have a federal district separate from the state of DC (or whatever they'd call it).
 
2021-01-07 6:47:22 PM  

Elzar: Then USVI, Guam, American Samoa and Northern Mariana Islands...


YEAAAARRRGHHHH!
 
2021-01-07 6:49:19 PM  
Its not really a big enough geographical area to qualify for independent statehood, although making it part of Delaware or Virginia might make sense.
 
2021-01-07 6:50:46 PM  
and she wants it done in the first biden 100 days, too.

i support this.
 
2021-01-07 6:50:47 PM  

Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.


What part explicitly prohibits it?
 
2021-01-07 6:51:25 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Its not really a big enough geographical area to qualify for independent statehood, although making it part of Delaware or Virginia might make sense.


Most people would say the same thing about Rhode Island, and yet here we are.

DC also has quite a few more people than Wyoming. Population shouldn't be an issue.
 
2021-01-07 6:52:10 PM  

Private_Citizen: First DC, then Puerto Rico. 4 new Democratic senators.


And then Queens, Manhatten, The Bronx, Austin, San Antonia, Minneapolis, Orange County, LA County.

I mean, each of those districts would still represent more people than most flyover states.
 
2021-01-07 6:54:49 PM  
DC has about the same population as North Dakota. Why shouldn't it have the same representation?
 
2021-01-07 6:56:10 PM  

quiotu: fragMasterFlash: Its not really a big enough geographical area to qualify for independent statehood, although making it part of Delaware or Virginia might make sense.

Most people would say the same thing about Rhode Island, and yet here we are.

DC also has quite a few more people than Wyoming. Population shouldn't be an issue.


They have a lot more blah people than Wyoming though.
 
2021-01-07 6:57:30 PM  

Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)


I know what you're saying, but once they allowed people to live there, that "federal area" idea went right out the window. It should be only federal offices and the WH. The President and his/her family should be the only residents. Otherwise, the residents should have the same rights and representation as a state.
 
2021-01-07 6:57:54 PM  

shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?


The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!
 
2021-01-07 7:00:20 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Its not really a big enough geographical area to qualify for independent statehood, although making it part of Delaware or Virginia might make sense.


It's not about geography, it's about a significant population (more than Wyoming) who don't have a voice in Congress.
 
2021-01-07 7:01:03 PM  

The Madd Mann: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

Giving DC back to Maryland isn't though.


I'd be surprised if Maryland wanted to take it back.
 
2021-01-07 7:01:48 PM  

NeoCortex42: Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)

Federal District for the purpose of the seats of government is one thing, but there's way too many permanent residents of the city to just let them remain disenfranchised like they are.


Make DC the narrowest district you can, then. Maybe just the mall and the White House. Cede the rest back to MD.

And yes, PR does need to be a state.
 
2021-01-07 7:04:19 PM  

Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!


States don't require a constitutional amendment to be created, you're deflecting from your claim that the Constitution "explicitly prohibits" its creation. Do you plan on citing it or are you lying?
 
2021-01-07 7:05:08 PM  

Lord Dimwit: NeoCortex42: Lord Dimwit: So I'm gonna be the guy saying maybe it's a bad idea.

The Federal District exists because the federal government needs an area of its own, free of any undue interference from any state government(s). I don't think this is a bad idea.

DC could be smaller though. Parts of it were ceded back to Maryland in the past. I think ceding most of it back to VA and MD makes the most sense, despite how happy I'd be to have another 2 Democratic senators.

(Now PR needs to be a state, for sure. It's well past time.)

Federal District for the purpose of the seats of government is one thing, but there's way too many permanent residents of the city to just let them remain disenfranchised like they are.

That's what I'm saying. Cede most of it back to MD and VA. Shrink it down to a triangle surrounding the White House, Supreme Court, and Congress, and their associated office buildings.


Make it a state. make the immediate area of those buildings a special enclave with the current rules, and an exception that no-one is resident there, but considered resident in the city surrounding.

It is not unconstitutional, congress has complete authority over the area with no limits, which means congress can grant it statehood.
 
2021-01-07 7:05:08 PM  

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2021-01-07 7:07:20 PM  

shinji3i: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!

States don't require a constitutional amendment to be created, you're deflecting from your claim that the Constitution "explicitly prohibits" its creation. Do you plan on citing it or are you lying?


DC specifically would need a constitutional amendment. Read and educate yourself:

https://www.rollcall.com/2018/04/16/t​h​ree-big-hurdles-for-d-c-as-advocates-l​obby-for-statehood/
 
2021-01-07 7:08:58 PM  

Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!


Nothing says how large the Federal District needs to be, only a maximum size is specified. You can easily reduce the Federal District to the Mall and other key buildings and make the rest of it a state.
 
2021-01-07 7:10:26 PM  

shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?


Article I, Section 8, Clause 17
 
2021-01-07 7:12:05 PM  

Private_Citizen: First DC, then Puerto Rico. 4 new Democratic senators.


Don't count on PR going Democrat. Lots of Catholics.
 
2021-01-07 7:12:19 PM  

Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!

States don't require a constitutional amendment to be created, you're deflecting from your claim that the Constitution "explicitly prohibits" its creation. Do you plan on citing it or are you lying?

DC specifically would need a constitutional amendment. Read and educate yourself:

https://www.rollcall.com/2018/04/16/th​ree-big-hurdles-for-d-c-as-advocates-l​obby-for-statehood/


Well that is simply wrong. There must be a Federal district and it shall not be larger than 10 miles squared. So long as there is a Federal District less than 10 miles squared there is no issue.
 
2021-01-07 7:12:24 PM  

dywed88: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!

Nothing says how large the Federal District needs to be, only a maximum size is specified. You can easily reduce the Federal District to the Mall and other key buildings and make the rest of it a state.


Generally, the movement to make DC a state is to increase add (Democratic) senators. Merely reapportioning much of DC to an existing state wouldn't do that.
 
2021-01-07 7:12:55 PM  

Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

Article I, Section 8, Clause 17


Maybe read it and you will see why you are wrong.
 
2021-01-07 7:14:27 PM  
An Aussie gas pump?

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2021-01-07 7:14:30 PM  

Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!

States don't require a constitutional amendment to be created, you're deflecting from your claim that the Constitution "explicitly prohibits" its creation. Do you plan on citing it or are you lying?

DC specifically would need a constitutional amendment. Read and educate yourself:

https://www.rollcall.com/2018/04/16/th​ree-big-hurdles-for-d-c-as-advocates-l​obby-for-statehood/


So you don't have an explicit source to the Constitution. Read and educate yourself on what the word "explicit" means.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio​nary/explicit

Also, it's in bad form to "smart" yourself, but you do you kid.
 
2021-01-07 7:19:25 PM  

Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!

States don't require a constitutional amendment to be created, you're deflecting from your claim that the Constitution "explicitly prohibits" its creation. Do you plan on citing it or are you lying?

DC specifically would need a constitutional amendment. Read and educate yourself:

https://www.rollcall.com/2018/04/16/th​ree-big-hurdles-for-d-c-as-advocates-l​obby-for-statehood/


That article gives no constitutional cite. It simply says it is so. If you are correct, I would really like to know.
 
2021-01-07 7:19:29 PM  

shinji3i: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: shinji3i: Corn_Fed: That's great, except for the part that it's explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.

What part explicitly prohibits it?

The only way it could become a state is by Constitutional Amendment. So if you can find 17 Republican senators, who I'm sure would be happy to welcome more Democrats as senators, then go for it!

States don't require a constitutional amendment to be created, you're deflecting from your claim that the Constitution "explicitly prohibits" its creation. Do you plan on citing it or are you lying?

DC specifically would need a constitutional amendment. Read and educate yourself:

https://www.rollcall.com/2018/04/16/th​ree-big-hurdles-for-d-c-as-advocates-l​obby-for-statehood/

So you don't have an explicit source to the Constitution. Read and educate yourself on what the word "explicit" means.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio​nary/explicit

Also, it's in bad form to "smart" yourself, but you do you kid.


Wrong on both counts.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 17.

Oh, and:

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