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(Washington Post)   Some people in the world can eat anything they want, as much as they want, and never gain a pound. Here's how to kill them. No, no, just kidding. It's an explanation of how their metabolism allows that to happen. So read this first, then kill them   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2021-01-04 9:31:00 PM  
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2021-01-04 9:39:55 PM  
I'm not getting fatter, my bones are betting bigger as I age.

\science!!!
 
2021-01-04 9:50:12 PM  
You won't catch me, soundsfatmitter.
 
2021-01-05 4:23:36 AM  
Then there are those people who don't get hungry and can do things like "forget" to eat.
 
2021-01-05 4:36:21 AM  
Eat them and gain their powers.
 
2021-01-05 4:45:01 AM  
I just want a device that turns mental/emotional stress into energy (Instead of physical stress)

That way I can go super saiyan
 
2021-01-05 4:55:32 AM  
If you eat them, maybe you can gain their power.  Like Kirby.
 
2021-01-05 4:56:37 AM  
Yes, sure, you can kill me later, but first, can you tell me if there's a way to turn it off?
 
2021-01-05 4:57:26 AM  
Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.
 
2021-01-05 4:58:24 AM  
Hey fatties, move your body in proportion to the food you eat.
Some of you losers eat more than you move by a long shot. Your anxiety and depression is generated from your own brain. The very brain that suffers this malady is the author of that affliction.
Your genius is so great that you can't be bothered with this simple concept.
 
2021-01-05 5:02:19 AM  

thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.


On the contrary, he likely only needs a few hundred calories a day to subsist; all the extra calories are wasted with the efficient metabolism. In a famine, there's no fat stores, but not a lot is needed to keep going.
 
2021-01-05 5:07:39 AM  

Nidiot: Then there are those people who don't get hungry and can do things like "forget" to eat.


I read the article and really didn't gain anything new about it like you mention in the article.  Seemed like the basic info - move more, more muscle is better than fat, eat less.

I recall a WTF interview with Billy Bob Thornton who talked about how he stayed thin.

Thornton said he would feel like shiat after eating, so there was never a pleasure drive to eat.  He'd eat out of necessity.  He thought everyone else was like him and couldn't understand things like over-eating at Thanksgiving.  Snacks didn't make sense.  Claims to have found out he has food sensitivities which caused the effect.

So yea, I am sure not having a feedback loop on the eating thing helps.  Just like having no injuries helps exercising.
 
2021-01-05 5:14:02 AM  
Am I supposed to feal sorry for fat people? It's not a farking disability, just stop eating!
 
2021-01-05 5:20:08 AM  

PerryWinnwet: thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.

On the contrary, he likely only needs a few hundred calories a day to subsist; all the extra calories are wasted with the efficient metabolism. In a famine, there's no fat stores, but not a lot is needed to keep going.


More likely that he has a very inefficient digestive system and eats relatively healthy. My Uncle is like this. My father and brothers on the other hand bulk up easily for muscle and fat at the same time. I look 60 pounds lighter than I am and I still have 30 pounds of excess fat I need to get rid of to be healthier. I have quizzed nurses while I was in the hospital for a surgery about what they though my weight was while I had my shirt off (the room was super hot during the day since it was an old hospital and my room was on the south side), mainly to see if they had actually read my chart, but they consistently estimated 50 to 70 pounds lighter than I am.

Maybe they were basing their number off me being shorter than average?
 
2021-01-05 5:23:29 AM  

thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.


Nobody called you to tell you how much they weigh. That didn't happen
 
2021-01-05 5:26:40 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: PerryWinnwet: thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.

On the contrary, he likely only needs a few hundred calories a day to subsist; all the extra calories are wasted with the efficient metabolism. In a famine, there's no fat stores, but not a lot is needed to keep going.

More likely that he has a very inefficient digestive system and eats relatively healthy. My Uncle is like this. My father and brothers on the other hand bulk up easily for muscle and fat at the same time. I look 60 pounds lighter than I am and I still have 30 pounds of excess fat I need to get rid of to be healthier. I have quizzed nurses while I was in the hospital for a surgery about what they though my weight was while I had my shirt off (the room was super hot during the day since it was an old hospital and my room was on the south side), mainly to see if they had actually read my chart, but they consistently estimated 50 to 70 pounds lighter than I am.

Maybe they were basing their number off me being shorter than average?


They were flattering you, fatty
 
2021-01-05 5:29:28 AM  

chitownmike: Am I supposed to feal sorry for fat people? It's not a farking disability, just stop eating!


I can eat the same thing as you and get more calories in less time. That is what this is talking about. Now leaving out fruits and vegetables and fruits while eating fatty meats and simple carbs (no whole grains, only russet potatoes, and cheap pasta) or only heavily processed foods, that will make anyone fat, other than those talked about in this study. Cost of healthy food, including the time to prepare it, is a huge factor on obesity, especially childhood and generational.

You also have to look a exercise as a luxury since modern work schedules and family obligations (especially for the poor since caring for large families is a major hurdle for them) eating what little time and energy even those that are middle class have after working full time.

Have some empathy and understand how the lower half of the middle class and below live. That is, unless you are evil and/or stupid. Then you and your stupidity can stay evil and/or willfully ignorant.
 
2021-01-05 5:30:22 AM  
I forget to eat. I get hangry, wife not amused when I do it. If she didnt cook I would have lost a lot of weight during this lockdown.  Open the farking restaurants Gretchen!
 
2021-01-05 5:31:24 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: PerryWinnwet: thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.

On the contrary, he likely only needs a few hundred calories a day to subsist; all the extra calories are wasted with the efficient metabolism. In a famine, there's no fat stores, but not a lot is needed to keep going.

More likely that he has a very inefficient digestive system and eats relatively healthy. My Uncle is like this. My father and brothers on the other hand bulk up easily for muscle and fat at the same time. I look 60 pounds lighter than I am and I still have 30 pounds of excess fat I need to get rid of to be healthier. I have quizzed nurses while I was in the hospital for a surgery about what they though my weight was while I had my shirt off (the room was super hot during the day since it was an old hospital and my room was on the south side), mainly to see if they had actually read my chart, but they consistently estimated 50 to 70 pounds lighter than I am.

Maybe they were basing their number off me being shorter than average?


You just have a fat ass.
 
2021-01-05 5:32:00 AM  
Given that there doesn't seem to be much benefit to putting on weight, like bears do and whatnot, since lack of water and starvation affects most humans about the same - you'd think evolution would have selected against people predisposed to being fat.
 
2021-01-05 5:32:49 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Now leaving out fruits and vegetables and fruits


You said "fruits" twice
 
2021-01-05 5:39:51 AM  

chitownmike: gozar_the_destroyer: PerryWinnwet: thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.

On the contrary, he likely only needs a few hundred calories a day to subsist; all the extra calories are wasted with the efficient metabolism. In a famine, there's no fat stores, but not a lot is needed to keep going.

More likely that he has a very inefficient digestive system and eats relatively healthy. My Uncle is like this. My father and brothers on the other hand bulk up easily for muscle and fat at the same time. I look 60 pounds lighter than I am and I still have 30 pounds of excess fat I need to get rid of to be healthier. I have quizzed nurses while I was in the hospital for a surgery about what they though my weight was while I had my shirt off (the room was super hot during the day since it was an old hospital and my room was on the south side), mainly to see if they had actually read my chart, but they consistently estimated 50 to 70 pounds lighter than I am.

Maybe they were basing their number off me being shorter than average?

They were flattering you, fatty


Doubtful that all of them would have. I have had my weight underestimated since I was 13. Considering that I had the start of a six pack at the time (Covid killed my gym membership), just like I did when I was in high school, your conclusion is highly suspect.

I started the weight question out of some advice from my ex about getting good care in the hospital since she had worked in the filed of nursing. Getting the nurses and CNAs to like you through some conversation really helps to get better care.

Thinking back on it, there were two nurses that did get it right, one she was the ICU nurse and the other was the second nurse that cared for me while I was admitted to the hospital. Well, the ER nurse got pretty close. I know for a fact that the ICU nurse looked at my chart. She also thought that it was a mistake since she asked me if they took my weight at the ER or just took my word for it since she was dosing me with some pretty strong medications.
 
2021-01-05 5:42:40 AM  

H31N0US: gozar_the_destroyer: Now leaving out fruits and vegetables and fruits

You said "fruits" twice


But I like fruits. And my ass is only slightly fat. Giggly fat. My pants still fit after 4 years and the same size was bought 9 months ago and it still fit.

\look at my giggly butt
\\you love my giggly butt
 
2021-01-05 5:43:10 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: You also have to look a exercise as a luxury since modern work schedules and family obligations (especially for the poor since caring for large families is a major hurdle for them) eating what little time and energy even those that are middle class have after working full time.


this one is a killer for me.

Finding 30-40 min of time to exercise isn't quite the worse part.  It is all the logistics to even do that.  Wardrobe changes, showers, commute to the gym/park, the time for those extras add up.  Now exercising requires a 90 min window in your daily schedule.

Single Hyjamon didn't mind working out at 8-10pm.  Parent Hyjamon doesn't have that luxury.
 
2021-01-05 5:45:14 AM  

thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.


Radiolab: you are what your grandpa eats
 
2021-01-05 6:15:32 AM  
It's all about calories burned and calories taken in when it all comes down to it.  Some of my fellow nurses almost daily say things like "how do you stay so thin but eat so much?!"

For one I don't eat breakfast. My biggest meal is lunch, when they see me eat a lot. And I don't know how many times I've had to stress this to them, but I go to the gym almost every day for about 3 hours and they don't. It's almost as if that little very important detail manages to escape them no matter how many times I repeat it to them.
 
2021-01-05 6:28:34 AM  

stevecore: It's all about calories burned and calories taken in when it all comes down to it.  Some of my fellow nurses almost daily say things like "how do you stay so thin but eat so much?!"

For one I don't eat breakfast. My biggest meal is lunch, when they see me eat a lot. And I don't know how many times I've had to stress this to them, but I go to the gym almost every day for about 3 hours and they don't. It's almost as if that little very important detail manages to escape them no matter how many times I repeat it to them.


The largest piece that people miss when beating up on calories in/out is that it is irrespective of metabolism.  "I have a slow metabolism." ok. exercise and eat less.  "That doesn't work. I said I have a *slow* metabolism."  ok. exercise and eat less.

Maybe you burn calories better than me, maybe you hold onto them more.  It doesn't matter.  If your weight stays at X with your current lifestyle, change your lifestyle.  "How much less should I eat?"  I don't know.  Less that yesterday.  "How much should I exercise?" I don't know.  More than yesterday.

"Ok, I've started limiting my calories and exercising and after two weeks I haven't lost any weight and nothing has changed."  First, yes, something has changed.  You are healthier than you were two weeks ago.  Second, if your current model isn't dropping the weight, eat just a little bit less until you see it happen.

It really isn't rocket surgery.  And damned near anyone can get better.  Will you look like Captain America or Wonder Woman?  Probably not.  But you can be better than you were yesterday.  And after enough yesterdays you are now better than you were last week.  Then last month, then last year...
 
2021-01-05 6:34:24 AM  

Hyjamon: gozar_the_destroyer: You also have to look a exercise as a luxury since modern work schedules and family obligations (especially for the poor since caring for large families is a major hurdle for them) eating what little time and energy even those that are middle class have after working full time.

this one is a killer for me.

Finding 30-40 min of time to exercise isn't quite the worse part.  It is all the logistics to even do that.  Wardrobe changes, showers, commute to the gym/park, the time for those extras add up.  Now exercising requires a 90 min window in your daily schedule.

Single Hyjamon didn't mind working out at 8-10pm.  Parent Hyjamon doesn't have that luxury.


As a parent, I hear you.
That's why in my last salaried job I kept spending almost every month a certain amount to set up a basic, but decent home gym.
Also, with 30 mins and a pair or two of dumbbells you can still have an amazing fat-burning workout, though it won't be as efficient as going to or having a gym, but you could still literally work all of the muscles sets in the body.
At home, I've worked out many times in my sleepwear if it's loose enough. Saves on changing time and washing. Though mostly for upper body.
Lower body, I prefer wearing actual sportswear and shoes.

Good luck.
 
2021-01-05 6:36:46 AM  
I have a fast metabolism to the point where I get painfully nauseously hungry if I don't eat during an eight hour shift. I don't judge anyone. I eat worse than a lot of people and I still only have a slight belly from all the farking booze that goes on top
 
2021-01-05 6:44:12 AM  
AFTA, a lot of people take a simplified calories in vs calories burned, which is useful but not accurate. Same as BMI, it's useful but far from accurate.
One thing I've noticed about my digestive system is that, thankfully, if I overeat, especially when not training my body tends to flush a lot of that meal out.
Age plays a big role, fidgeting increases metabolism by 5% IIRC.
Being active more than once a day really revs up the system.
Spicy food raises metabolism.
Weather as well.

Walking really makes a difference.

All of this without even going into cardio or weight exercising.

One thing that HAS surprised me, even with all of these years of conscious exercising and reading, is that how we as humans tend to hold to a certain weight over such a long period (with jumps in between). It's almost like subconsciously we increase or reduce our input to maintain a certain weight. It's actually fascinating.

How long have YOU been at your current weight plus/minus 5 pounds?
 
2021-01-05 6:44:39 AM  

Resident Muslim: Hyjamon: gozar_the_destroyer: You also have to look a exercise as a luxury since modern work schedules and family obligations (especially for the poor since caring for large families is a major hurdle for them) eating what little time and energy even those that are middle class have after working full time.

this one is a killer for me.

Finding 30-40 min of time to exercise isn't quite the worse part.  It is all the logistics to even do that.  Wardrobe changes, showers, commute to the gym/park, the time for those extras add up.  Now exercising requires a 90 min window in your daily schedule.

Single Hyjamon didn't mind working out at 8-10pm.  Parent Hyjamon doesn't have that luxury.

As a parent, I hear you.
That's why in my last salaried job I kept spending almost every month a certain amount to set up a basic, but decent home gym.
Also, with 30 mins and a pair or two of dumbbells you can still have an amazing fat-burning workout, though it won't be as efficient as going to or having a gym, but you could still literally work all of the muscles sets in the body.
At home, I've worked out many times in my sleepwear if it's loose enough. Saves on changing time and washing. Though mostly for upper body.
Lower body, I prefer wearing actual sportswear and shoes.

Good luck.


My wife and I have around 200 episodes of Power Yoga and Classical Stretch dvr'd from PBS. It's not ideal, but 20 minutes a day with no commute is still a lot better than zero workout. I figure if the host of Classical Stretch looks that good in her late 60's, she's doing something right.
 
2021-01-05 6:45:26 AM  

stevecore: It's all about calories burned and calories taken in when it all comes down to it.  Some of my fellow nurses almost daily say things like "how do you stay so thin but eat so much?!"

For one I don't eat breakfast. My biggest meal is lunch, when they see me eat a lot. And I don't know how many times I've had to stress this to them, but I go to the gym almost every day for about 3 hours and they don't. It's almost as if that little very important detail manages to escape them no matter how many times I repeat it to them.


Totally this, I was 235 around November 2019, right before the holidays I was around 190 and was floating there since May. I was already running 2-3 days a week (not religiously) and it was keeping me there . What changed?
1. job evolved to where I was working from home 2 days a week (it is now all the time but could go back) so I would go for a run immediately when I got up and amazingly I ran better, faster and was more motivated so it became religious.
2. I completely cut out breakfast. I was expecting I wouldn't make it but I have found that I am just as hungry at 11 (i get up at 5 or 6 depending on the day if I run or not so I eat early lunch) regardless. I also try not to eat after 7. So yes Intermittent Fasting seems to have made a difference and I would say the biggest tbh. Cutting out breakfast is about 300 calories a day with 2100 a week, thats a bit more than half a pound

All that said the last 3 weeks my regimen went in the shiatter so I gained a couple pounds but I suspect it will be gone before the month is up as I started back into it this week.
 
2021-01-05 6:48:32 AM  

Resident Muslim: AFTA, a lot of people take a simplified calories in vs calories burned, which is useful but not accurate. Same as BMI, it's useful but far from accurate.
One thing I've noticed about my digestive system is that, thankfully, if I overeat, especially when not training my body tends to flush a lot of that meal out.
Age plays a big role, fidgeting increases metabolism by 5% IIRC.
Being active more than once a day really revs up the system.
Spicy food raises metabolism.
Weather as well.

Walking really makes a difference.

All of this without even going into cardio or weight exercising.

One thing that HAS surprised me, even with all of these years of conscious exercising and reading, is that how we as humans tend to hold to a certain weight over such a long period (with jumps in between). It's almost like subconsciously we increase or reduce our input to maintain a certain weight. It's actually fascinating.

How long have YOU been at your current weight plus/minus 5 pounds?


I remember reading one of the studies that came out of the Biggest Loser show was that they found the people involved had their metabolism practically turn itself off. It was the opposite of a battery, it wanted to get back to the heaviest it has been.
 
2021-01-05 6:51:21 AM  
Yeah, that's me. Still scrawny and over 40. Not from an active lifestyle and either.
 
2021-01-05 6:55:08 AM  

starsrift: you'd think evolution would have selected against people predisposed to being fat.


People still willing to impregnate (or be impregnated by) fatties.
 
2021-01-05 6:56:49 AM  

rikkards: Resident Muslim: AFTA, a lot of people take a simplified calories in vs calories burned, which is useful but not accurate. Same as BMI, it's useful but far from accurate.
One thing I've noticed about my digestive system is that, thankfully, if I overeat, especially when not training my body tends to flush a lot of that meal out.
Age plays a big role, fidgeting increases metabolism by 5% IIRC.
Being active more than once a day really revs up the system.
Spicy food raises metabolism.
Weather as well.

Walking really makes a difference.

All of this without even going into cardio or weight exercising.

One thing that HAS surprised me, even with all of these years of conscious exercising and reading, is that how we as humans tend to hold to a certain weight over such a long period (with jumps in between). It's almost like subconsciously we increase or reduce our input to maintain a certain weight. It's actually fascinating.

How long have YOU been at your current weight plus/minus 5 pounds?

I remember reading one of the studies that came out of the Biggest Loser show was that they found the people involved had their metabolism practically turn itself off. It was the opposite of a battery, it wanted to get back to the heaviest it has been.


Mine wants to stay at its lightest weight. If I eat a ton of calories in one day, then I'm not hungry the next day.
 
2021-01-05 7:07:18 AM  

Andy Andy: starsrift: you'd think evolution would have selected against people predisposed to being fat.

People still willing to impregnate (or be impregnated by) fatties.


I mean yes, but, fatties demand more resources, and are consequently poorer. Economically they're not "catches" or desirable, nevermind physically attractive. And irrespective of that, obesity is on the rise.

Humanity defies all sorts of Darwinism, though. We are more than animals.
 
2021-01-05 7:10:15 AM  
"It's what's inside that matters" - People Say

"What's inside doesn't matter" - Patrick Bateman
 
2021-01-05 7:11:07 AM  
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2021-01-05 7:14:24 AM  

Hyjamon: gozar_the_destroyer: You also have to look a exercise as a luxury since modern work schedules and family obligations (especially for the poor since caring for large families is a major hurdle for them) eating what little time and energy even those that are middle class have after working full time.

this one is a killer for me.

Finding 30-40 min of time to exercise isn't quite the worse part.  It is all the logistics to even do that.  Wardrobe changes, showers, commute to the gym/park, the time for those extras add up.  Now exercising requires a 90 min window in your daily schedule.

Single Hyjamon didn't mind working out at 8-10pm.  Parent Hyjamon doesn't have that luxury.


Get a VR or a pelaton and just do 30 minutes before work. Go for a walk before dinner.
 
2021-01-05 7:18:07 AM  
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2021-01-05 7:24:49 AM  
Poopin' helps you lose weight.
 
2021-01-05 7:27:42 AM  

rikkards: Resident Muslim: AFTA, a lot of people take a simplified calories in vs calories burned, which is useful but not accurate. Same as BMI, it's useful but far from accurate.
One thing I've noticed about my digestive system is that, thankfully, if I overeat, especially when not training my body tends to flush a lot of that meal out.
Age plays a big role, fidgeting increases metabolism by 5% IIRC.
Being active more than once a day really revs up the system.
Spicy food raises metabolism.
Weather as well.

Walking really makes a difference.

All of this without even going into cardio or weight exercising.

One thing that HAS surprised me, even with all of these years of conscious exercising and reading, is that how we as humans tend to hold to a certain weight over such a long period (with jumps in between). It's almost like subconsciously we increase or reduce our input to maintain a certain weight. It's actually fascinating.

How long have YOU been at your current weight plus/minus 5 pounds?

I remember reading one of the studies that came out of the Biggest Loser show was that they found the people involved had their metabolism practically turn itself off. It was the opposite of a battery, it wanted to get back to the heaviest it has been.


I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, you mean after losing all of the weight they rebounded?
If yes, what happens when you create a huge calorie deficit from exercise, but even more so with dieting, you end up cannibalizing the muscle mass that you have. Muscles burn so much more that fat, pound for pound, so when you lose that, you lose your calorie burning. Hence the same food that you could eat and burn you now eat and gain weight.

That's why so many people yo-yo diet and end up frustrated and demotivated, sadly. They put in a LOT of effort to lose weight but then gain it again. Worse is that with each cycle they lose even more muscle and make the fat gain quicker and subsequent weight loss harder.
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2021-01-05 7:28:29 AM  
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2021-01-05 7:31:28 AM  
You can hear the chewing in this thread.
 
2021-01-05 7:45:18 AM  
I've been 6'2" since I was 16 and I could not get over 155 lbs until I was around 24. I assumed at the time my metabolism slowed down because suddenly I was 170, then 175, 180, with no sudden lifestyle change. I filled out some and no longer had a convex chest, so I had that going for me.

Around 25 I started lifting weights regularly. After one particular 10 week routine my weight shot up to 205, the heaviest I've ever been (I've also been drinking a lot more at the time). My lanky frame still didn't look 205, even with the stronger muscles. I kind of lost interest (and sick of eating the extra calories and protein) and after a few months both my strength gains and weight fell off.

During the pandemic with very little exercise except for walking and golf I've been at a very stable 175. Our household diet has changed, too. Mostly no garbage carbs and loaded salads for lunch.

/ get out of bed and swing the kettle bell
// come on do it
/// just 10 more minutes!
 
2021-01-05 7:46:52 AM  

Resident Muslim: rikkards: Resident Muslim: AFTA, a lot of people take a simplified calories in vs calories burned, which is useful but not accurate. Same as BMI, it's useful but far from accurate.
One thing I've noticed about my digestive system is that, thankfully, if I overeat, especially when not training my body tends to flush a lot of that meal out.
Age plays a big role, fidgeting increases metabolism by 5% IIRC.
Being active more than once a day really revs up the system.
Spicy food raises metabolism.
Weather as well.

Walking really makes a difference.

All of this without even going into cardio or weight exercising.

One thing that HAS surprised me, even with all of these years of conscious exercising and reading, is that how we as humans tend to hold to a certain weight over such a long period (with jumps in between). It's almost like subconsciously we increase or reduce our input to maintain a certain weight. It's actually fascinating.

How long have YOU been at your current weight plus/minus 5 pounds?

I remember reading one of the studies that came out of the Biggest Loser show was that they found the people involved had their metabolism practically turn itself off. It was the opposite of a battery, it wanted to get back to the heaviest it has been.

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, you mean after losing all of the weight they rebounded?
If yes, what happens when you create a huge calorie deficit from exercise, but even more so with dieting, you end up cannibalizing the muscle mass that you have. Muscles burn so much more that fat, pound for pound, so when you lose that, you lose your calorie burning. Hence the same food that you could eat and burn you now eat and gain weight.

That's why so many people yo-yo diet and end up frustrated and demotivated, sadly. They put in a LOT of effort to lose weight but then gain it again. Worse is that with each cycle they lose even more muscle and make the fat gain quicker and subsequent weight loss harder.
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It was more than just that they continued monitoring and even people who kept up with exercise and diet subsequently found their hormone levels changed leading to a slow metabolism so they were working harder to keep the weight off.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-an​d-weight-loss/lessons-from-the-biggest​-loser
 
2021-01-05 7:48:35 AM  

chitownmike: thespindrifter: Genetics. I have a friend I've known for 30+ years now who is 5'11" and has only until this year never weighed more than 130 pounds soaking wet. His mother maybe weighs 90, and his grandfather was a tunnel rat in the Pacific in WW II because he was maybe 85 - 90 pounds and fit easily into the Nippon tunnels to hunt them down and kill. He recently called me to tell me he's now at 138 pounds at 50 years old.

I imagine this would not work in his favor in a famine.

Nobody called you to tell you how much they weigh. That didn't happen


We get it, you don't have friends
 
2021-01-05 7:52:01 AM  

Andy Andy: starsrift: you'd think evolution would have selected against people predisposed to being fat.

People still willing to impregnate (or be impregnated by) fatties.


Evolution has done the exact opposite. There's a million plus years of human history where every calorie was precious and hard to optain. And less than 200 years where calories (sugar in particular) are cheap and abundant.
 
2021-01-05 8:00:05 AM  

rikkards: It was more than just that they continued monitoring and even people who kept up with exercise and diet subsequently found their hormone levels changed leading to a slow metabolism so they were working harder to keep the weight off.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-an​d-weight-loss/lessons-from-the-biggest​-loser


They starved them on the Biggest Loser- that can't be good for your body under any circumstances. I remember distinctly one contestant talking about when they got home, one of their favorite meals was spaghetti squash with sauce (tomato sauce).
i.e. fruit sauce on a vegetable.
No healthy fats (olive oil), no protein (meat, cheese, beans), no whole grains (mix in whole wheat spaghetti). All things that are part of a HEALTHY diet.
I can't say every contestant ate like that, but this poor person literally thought they were doing really great eating that because it was so low calorie.
 
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